| Lex79 | cjwatson: can you add in kubuntu set of packages koffice-l10n and kde-l10n-* ? also, it doesn't make sense have language-pack-kde-* (they are signed by automatic language-pack builder) it make sense have kde-l10n-*. Thanks | 00:43 |
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| cjwatson | Lex79: please mail me about it, I'll need to figure out how to add wildcard exceptions. (also I don't think it's worth putting in effort to actively remove language-pack-kde-*) | 03:37 |
| Lex79 | cjwatson: ok | 03:40 |
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| gaspa | someone knows if there 's a tag for bugs about fail to build with gold linker? | 09:12 |
| tumbleweed | gaspa: such bugs are tagged in debian (see the natty open announcement email) | 09:34 |
| gaspa | tumbleweed: but in debian they still build, often | 09:35 |
| gaspa | (anyway, let's see..:P) | 09:35 |
| tumbleweed | yeah, but someone has been running rebuilds with gold | 09:35 |
| gaspa | tumbleweed: well, i'd like to see some diff to see the fixes... | 09:36 |
| tumbleweed | I don't know of a tag on the ubuntu side. There's a wiki page with a list of the early fixes, but I don't think people are updating it. | 09:37 |
| gaspa | tumbleweed: link? | 09:39 |
| tumbleweed | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RobSavoye/GoldFixes | 09:40 |
| gaspa | tumbleweed: thanks alot | 09:40 |
| tumbleweed | yeah, I don't see that many people forwarding patches to debian for this... http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=no-add-needed;users=peter.fritzsche@gmx.de | 09:42 |
| gaspa | tumbleweed: ever faced things like «unrecognized option '-Bsymbolic-functions;-Wl'» | 09:59 |
| gaspa | ? | 09:59 |
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| tumbleweed | gaspa: haven't seen that | 10:17 |
| gaspa | tumbleweed: pity, thanks ;) | 10:18 |
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| jemadux | i am not a devel , but i want to know... in natty will have uninity instead of gnone ? | 12:49 |
| sebner | jemadux: du mean unity instead of gnome-shell?! | 12:49 |
| jemadux | yes this i mean | 12:50 |
| sebner | jemadux: gnome-shell != gnome, it's just a part of it but the answer is yes | 12:50 |
| jemadux | gnome shell == part of gnome 3 ? | 12:54 |
| Oli``` | Hey does anybody know what state a window has to be to be able to overlay the panel? | 12:55 |
| sebner | jemadux: jes | 12:56 |
| sebner | *yes | 12:56 |
| jemadux | ok :) | 12:57 |
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| jemadux | unity is a fork of gnome shell ? | 13:14 |
| StevenK | It is not | 13:15 |
| jemadux | and why dont make a version of ubuntu called unibuntu ? and leave to 11.04 with gnome-shell ? :p | 13:21 |
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| om26er | can anyone please sponser bug 636161 ? (upstream recommended)(sru approved) | 13:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 636161 in gexiv2 (Ubuntu) "shotwell crashed with SIGSEGV in gexiv2_metadata_get_orientation()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/636161 | 13:55 |
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| Riddell | ttx: server natty kolab rescheduled for tomorrow at 11:00/16:00 in #ubuntu-uds-curacao12, if one/some of your people could be there that would be lovely | 14:42 |
| * ttx looks | 14:43 | |
| ttx | zul_: do you think you can go ? I need to be in the automated testing / Hudson one | 14:44 |
| zul_ | sure | 14:44 |
| ttx | zul_: or find someone else more interested than you are :) | 14:44 |
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| maco | kees: that ptrace change that breaks debuggers in 10.10... emails say to put 0 in /proc/sys/kernel/ptrace_scope but when i try to echo | tee it tells me that file doesn't exist. how do i debug? | 15:12 |
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| kees | maco: where did you find that path documented? (it's the old path) | 15:13 |
| cjwatson | maco: cjwatson | 15:13 |
| cjwatson | err? | 15:13 |
| cjwatson | maco: /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope | 15:14 |
| * cjwatson is not a kernel configuration path | 15:14 | |
| kees | maco: the correct path ... what cjwatson said faster than me :) | 15:14 |
| maco | kees: i was grepping emails | 15:14 |
| maco | cjwatson: thanks | 15:14 |
| kees | maco: ah-ha, okay. it was discovered that gdb lost the "education" patch it had -- I actually just uploaded the fix for that to proposed | 15:15 |
| kees | maco: but the release notes and things hsould have it updated. | 15:15 |
| tseliot | pitti: ping | 15:24 |
| pitti | tseliot: pong | 15:24 |
| tseliot | pitti: can we talk a bit about jockey some time today? | 15:25 |
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| pitti | tseliot: I'd have time today at 12:00 | 15:25 |
| pitti | tseliot: my afternoon is full already | 15:27 |
| nemo | hm. ok. I disabled all my cronjobs that use gconf, and Xorg is no longer steadily sucking up memory. | 15:28 |
| tseliot | pitti: great, shall we meet at the front desk (where Michelle and Marianna are) by then? | 15:28 |
| * nemo searches for known related bugs | 15:28 | |
| nemo | s/gconf/dbus/ | 15:28 |
| pitti | tseliot: yes, sounds good | 15:28 |
| tseliot | pitti: ok, I'll see you there then | 15:30 |
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| m_101 | hi! | 15:44 |
| m_101 | i found weird behavior with Unity interface | 15:44 |
| m_101 | :( | 15:44 |
| m_101 | Unity kind of "restart" when i change tabs in Kile | 15:45 |
| svwilliams | has anyone had the issue with Unity that if you hibernate the images on the bar to the left become white blocks? | 15:56 |
| svwilliams | when you return | 15:57 |
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| hrw|uds | hi | 16:13 |
| hrw|uds | someone remember which kernel version does ubuntu udev require? | 16:14 |
| ebroder | hrw|uds: udev generally requires a kernel *at least as new* as was released with that version of ubuntu | 16:14 |
| hrw|uds | ebroder: sure, but I have a board which has 2.6.31 only so far and we want to get buntu working on it with this version | 16:15 |
| ebroder | hrw|uds: Then you probably either need to look at karmic (or at least karmic's udev) or be prepared for some potential pain | 16:15 |
| rhys | did anyone ever notice that http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/gnuplot-nox package pulls in a ton of X11 libraries? | 16:37 |
| rhys | its not actually "nox" | 16:37 |
| geser | which ones? I don't see any X package in depends for that package | 16:43 |
| ChogyDan | geser: maybe it is groff | 16:53 |
| rhys | Its groff | 16:55 |
| rhys | http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/groff | 16:56 |
| rhys | those pull in alot more | 16:56 |
| rhys | is there a flag to apt/dpkg to shut off installing "recommended" | 16:56 |
| rhys | ? | 16:56 |
| psusi | --no-install-recommends | 16:56 |
| ebroder | or --without-recommends if you're using aptitude | 17:03 |
| \sh | rhys: in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99norecommends paste the following:http://paste.ubuntu.com/521508/ | 17:03 |
| \sh | dunno if aptitude respects apt configurations | 17:04 |
| ebroder | \sh: It should | 17:04 |
| \sh | ebroder: I try to avoid aptitude ;) | 17:04 |
| ebroder | \sh: I'm less opinionated about it than I used to be now that apt-get's resolver got better | 17:05 |
| rhys | interesting | 17:06 |
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| rhys | should groff be suggested and not recommended? | 17:11 |
| \sh | rhys: depends? | 17:13 |
| \sh | rhys: which packages | 17:13 |
| \sh | s/s$// | 17:13 |
| rhys | \sh, for the "gnuplot-nox" package | 17:14 |
| rhys | i am not familiar with the policy on what recommends should be | 17:14 |
| rhys | it just seems strange to me that "apt-get install gnuplot-nox" gets "groff" which gets a bunch of X11 libraries. | 17:15 |
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| \sh | Well, recommends only says (as I interpretate it), that it will install additional packages which will give the app in the to be install package more functionality...which is for desktop ok, regarding a server, I would always go without recommends... | 17:17 |
| micahg | I thought recommends is for packages that would be used with the package in most scenarios | 17:20 |
| \sh | micahg: well, they are not "Essential" for the functionality...but gives eventually more functionallity...well, on servers I always deploy apt without recommends installation...especially on vmware machines, with openvm-tools... | 17:25 |
| micahg | \sh: right, essential is depends | 17:25 |
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| rhys | ah. right | 17:28 |
| \sh | micahg: when zf 1.11 is out and reaching natty..you get again some work ;) | 17:31 |
| micahg | \sh: heh, no problem, maybe I'll be MOTU by then and we can backport officially :) | 17:31 |
| \sh | micahg: I thought you wanted to be motu at the end of UDS? | 17:33 |
| micahg | \sh: yes, but we'll see | 17:33 |
| \sh | micahg: good luck :) | 17:37 |
| micahg | \sh: thansk | 17:37 |
| micahg | *thanks | 17:37 |
| Keybuk | kees: I saw this http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/RemoveSETUID and thought of you | 17:37 |
| kees | Keybuk: yup. Debian and Ubuntu need to support fscaps first. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/FilesystemCapabilties | 17:40 |
| kees | Keybuk: Fedora is just bringing this idea back up because of the recent libc vulnerabilities | 17:40 |
| Keybuk | indeed | 17:40 |
| kees | which isn't very helpful because at least something will still have CAP_SYS_ADMIN, and that's virtually everything anyway. :P | 17:42 |
| ebroder | Are they going to drop sudo or something? | 17:43 |
| ebroder | Push everything through PolKit? | 17:43 |
| kees | ebroder: the ultimate goal has always been to get rid of sudo in favor of PolKit, yeah. | 17:44 |
| Keybuk | kees: ah, I remember this - we can't do fscaps because we use squashfs for the live cd | 17:46 |
| ebroder | Keybuk: Doesn't squashfs have xattr support? | 17:46 |
| ebroder | (at least in theory) | 17:47 |
| Keybuk | squashfs barely has permissions support ;-) | 17:47 |
| Keybuk | in fact, we're lucky it does directories | 17:47 |
| cody-somerville | lol | 17:47 |
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| bmm | I've got a python package with a setup.py which defines "entry_points" containing "console_scripts", which easy install will create into a file in the bin directory but cdbs does not seem to understand that. | 19:50 |
| bmm | Any tips, do I need to symlink, patch, or is there a way to configure cdbs to understand that? | 19:51 |
| ebroder | bmm: What does cdbs need to understand about that? | 19:55 |
| ebroder | If you're using the python-distutils.mk class, it should run (something like) setup.py install, which will install the script into (something like) $(DESTDIR)$(PREFIX)/bin, in which case everything will be fine | 19:56 |
| bmm | ebroder: ok, I'll have to check again then.. | 19:59 |
| bmm | ebroder: Ok, it's not working yet, but I'm to tired to finish it today. I'll have a look at it tomorrow or something. Thanks for the response! | 20:04 |
| ebroder | bmm: Hmm...it's possible that cdbs is passing some weird argument that keeps the setup.py script from creating the script (like --one-version-centrally-managed or whatever that argument is called) | 20:05 |
| bmm | ebroder: I'll write that down for tomorrow :) | 20:09 |
| ebroder | Hmm...I can't magically build a URL for ".dsc file of the current version of <package> in <release>", right? I have to hit the API? | 20:19 |
| dholbach | ebroder, apt-get source? :-) | 20:20 |
| ebroder | dholbach: For arbitrary values of <release> :) | 20:20 |
| dholbach | ebroder, -t :) | 20:20 |
| ebroder | Thet let's me pull from different pockets but not, say, get a maverick source package on a lucid machine | 20:21 |
| dholbach | chdist might be easier | 20:21 |
| ebroder | whoa... | 20:23 |
| ebroder | Never seen that before | 20:23 |
| ebroder | Although I still don't think that actually solves this particular problem; I'll just use the API | 20:23 |
| dholbach | ebroder, what exactly are you trying to do? just get a source package from a different release? | 20:24 |
| ebroder | I'm trying to write a script that does that. (This is eventually going to be for backports testing) | 20:24 |
| geser | ebroder: something like "pull-lp-source" in u-d-t? | 20:25 |
| dholbach | ebroder, to me chdist looks like a good idea for using that :) | 20:25 |
| ebroder | geser: Uh...yeah. Something exactly like pull-lp-source :-P | 20:26 |
| ebroder | Thanks for that | 20:26 |
| micahg | stgraber: are you interested in merging pidgin? | 20:29 |
| stgraber | micahg: not really | 20:29 |
| micahg | stgraber: ok, thanks | 20:29 |
| * micahg will prepare a merge later | 20:29 | |
| stgraber | micahg: I just happen to be the last uploader because a colleague of mine needed a patch from upstream to be applied to our package. Latest upstream should have it so this delta can be dropped. | 20:30 |
| micahg | stgraber: right, I figured as much, but wanted to ask anyways | 20:30 |
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| Riddell | skaet: ping | 20:46 |
| skaet | Riddell: hi | 20:46 |
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| slangasek | ogra_ac: since you appear to be able to reproduce bug #652035, can you confirm the fix for SRU verification? | 22:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 652035 in alsa-lib (Ubuntu Maverick) "libasound2 not finding usb sound card" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/652035 | 22:45 |
| * ogra_ac checks which one that is | 22:46 | |
| ogra_ac | slangasek, comment 11 isnt enough ? | 22:46 |
| slangasek | ogra_ac: if you can confirm that the fix crimsun uploaded to his ppa is identical to the one that was in the SRU queue? | 22:51 |
| ogra_ac | slangasek, already done | 22:51 |
| ogra_ac | i commented | 22:51 |
| slangasek | ogra_ac: ok, thanks! | 22:53 |
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