[00:43] cjwatson: can you add in kubuntu set of packages koffice-l10n and kde-l10n-* ? also, it doesn't make sense have language-pack-kde-* (they are signed by automatic language-pack builder) it make sense have kde-l10n-*. Thanks === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [03:37] Lex79: please mail me about it, I'll need to figure out how to add wildcard exceptions. (also I don't think it's worth putting in effort to actively remove language-pack-kde-*) [03:40] cjwatson: ok === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === Keybuk_ is now known as Keybuk === Pilif12p is now known as Pilif12p|afk === nixternal_ is now known as nixternal === debfx_ is now known as debfx === hunger_ is now known as hunger [09:12] someone knows if there 's a tag for bugs about fail to build with gold linker? [09:34] gaspa: such bugs are tagged in debian (see the natty open announcement email) [09:35] tumbleweed: but in debian they still build, often [09:35] (anyway, let's see..:P) [09:35] yeah, but someone has been running rebuilds with gold [09:36] tumbleweed: well, i'd like to see some diff to see the fixes... [09:37] I don't know of a tag on the ubuntu side. There's a wiki page with a list of the early fixes, but I don't think people are updating it. [09:39] tumbleweed: link? [09:40] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RobSavoye/GoldFixes [09:40] tumbleweed: thanks alot [09:42] yeah, I don't see that many people forwarding patches to debian for this... http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=no-add-needed;users=peter.fritzsche@gmx.de [09:59] tumbleweed: ever faced things like «unrecognized option '-Bsymbolic-functions;-Wl'» [09:59] ? === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [10:17] gaspa: haven't seen that [10:18] tumbleweed: pity, thanks ;) === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [12:49] i am not a devel , but i want to know... in natty will have uninity instead of gnone ? [12:49] jemadux: du mean unity instead of gnome-shell?! [12:50] yes this i mean [12:50] jemadux: gnome-shell != gnome, it's just a part of it but the answer is yes [12:54] gnome shell == part of gnome 3 ? [12:55] Hey does anybody know what state a window has to be to be able to overlay the panel? [12:56] jemadux: jes [12:56] *yes [12:57] ok :) === Charles_JUDITH is now known as help === help is now known as Guest78221 === Guest78221 is now known as Charles_JUDITH [13:14] unity is a fork of gnome shell ? [13:15] It is not [13:21] and why dont make a version of ubuntu called unibuntu ? and leave to 11.04 with gnome-shell ? :p === xlorem_ is now known as xlorem [13:55] can anyone please sponser bug 636161 ? (upstream recommended)(sru approved) [13:55] Launchpad bug 636161 in gexiv2 (Ubuntu) "shotwell crashed with SIGSEGV in gexiv2_metadata_get_orientation()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/636161 === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [14:42] ttx: server natty kolab rescheduled for tomorrow at 11:00/16:00 in #ubuntu-uds-curacao12, if one/some of your people could be there that would be lovely [14:43] * ttx looks [14:44] zul_: do you think you can go ? I need to be in the automated testing / Hudson one [14:44] sure [14:44] zul_: or find someone else more interested than you are :) === zul_ is now known as zul === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [15:12] kees: that ptrace change that breaks debuggers in 10.10... emails say to put 0 in /proc/sys/kernel/ptrace_scope but when i try to echo | tee it tells me that file doesn't exist. how do i debug? === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [15:13] maco: where did you find that path documented? (it's the old path) [15:13] maco: cjwatson [15:13] err? [15:14] maco: /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope [15:14] * cjwatson is not a kernel configuration path [15:14] maco: the correct path ... what cjwatson said faster than me :) [15:14] kees: i was grepping emails [15:14] cjwatson: thanks [15:15] maco: ah-ha, okay. it was discovered that gdb lost the "education" patch it had -- I actually just uploaded the fix for that to proposed [15:15] maco: but the release notes and things hsould have it updated. [15:24] pitti: ping [15:24] tseliot: pong [15:25] pitti: can we talk a bit about jockey some time today? === ogra_ac_ is now known as ogra_ac [15:25] tseliot: I'd have time today at 12:00 [15:27] tseliot: my afternoon is full already [15:28] hm. ok. I disabled all my cronjobs that use gconf, and Xorg is no longer steadily sucking up memory. [15:28] pitti: great, shall we meet at the front desk (where Michelle and Marianna are) by then? [15:28] * nemo searches for known related bugs [15:28] s/gconf/dbus/ [15:28] tseliot: yes, sounds good [15:30] pitti: ok, I'll see you there then === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [15:44] hi! [15:44] i found weird behavior with Unity interface [15:44] :( [15:45] Unity kind of "restart" when i change tabs in Kile [15:56] has anyone had the issue with Unity that if you hibernate the images on the bar to the left become white blocks? [15:57] when you return === oubiwann is now known as oubiwann-away === oubiwann-away is now known as oubiwann [16:13] hi [16:14] someone remember which kernel version does ubuntu udev require? [16:14] hrw|uds: udev generally requires a kernel *at least as new* as was released with that version of ubuntu [16:15] ebroder: sure, but I have a board which has 2.6.31 only so far and we want to get buntu working on it with this version [16:15] hrw|uds: Then you probably either need to look at karmic (or at least karmic's udev) or be prepared for some potential pain [16:37] did anyone ever notice that http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/gnuplot-nox package pulls in a ton of X11 libraries? [16:37] its not actually "nox" [16:43] which ones? I don't see any X package in depends for that package [16:53] geser: maybe it is groff [16:55] Its groff [16:56] http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/groff [16:56] those pull in alot more [16:56] is there a flag to apt/dpkg to shut off installing "recommended" [16:56] ? [16:56] --no-install-recommends [17:03] or --without-recommends if you're using aptitude [17:03] <\sh> rhys: in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99norecommends paste the following:http://paste.ubuntu.com/521508/ [17:04] <\sh> dunno if aptitude respects apt configurations [17:04] \sh: It should [17:04] <\sh> ebroder: I try to avoid aptitude ;) [17:05] \sh: I'm less opinionated about it than I used to be now that apt-get's resolver got better [17:06] interesting === makl is now known as ximion [17:11] should groff be suggested and not recommended? [17:13] <\sh> rhys: depends? [17:13] <\sh> rhys: which packages [17:13] <\sh> s/s$// [17:14] \sh, for the "gnuplot-nox" package [17:14] i am not familiar with the policy on what recommends should be [17:15] it just seems strange to me that "apt-get install gnuplot-nox" gets "groff" which gets a bunch of X11 libraries. === TerminX_ is now known as TerminX [17:17] <\sh> Well, recommends only says (as I interpretate it), that it will install additional packages which will give the app in the to be install package more functionality...which is for desktop ok, regarding a server, I would always go without recommends... [17:20] I thought recommends is for packages that would be used with the package in most scenarios [17:25] <\sh> micahg: well, they are not "Essential" for the functionality...but gives eventually more functionallity...well, on servers I always deploy apt without recommends installation...especially on vmware machines, with openvm-tools... [17:25] \sh: right, essential is depends === bdrung_ubucon is now known as bdrung_uni [17:28] ah. right [17:31] <\sh> micahg: when zf 1.11 is out and reaching natty..you get again some work ;) [17:31] \sh: heh, no problem, maybe I'll be MOTU by then and we can backport officially :) [17:33] <\sh> micahg: I thought you wanted to be motu at the end of UDS? [17:33] \sh: yes, but we'll see [17:37] <\sh> micahg: good luck :) [17:37] \sh: thansk [17:37] *thanks [17:37] kees: I saw this http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/RemoveSETUID and thought of you [17:40] Keybuk: yup. Debian and Ubuntu need to support fscaps first. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/FilesystemCapabilties [17:40] Keybuk: Fedora is just bringing this idea back up because of the recent libc vulnerabilities [17:40] indeed [17:42] which isn't very helpful because at least something will still have CAP_SYS_ADMIN, and that's virtually everything anyway. :P [17:43] Are they going to drop sudo or something? [17:43] Push everything through PolKit? [17:44] ebroder: the ultimate goal has always been to get rid of sudo in favor of PolKit, yeah. [17:46] kees: ah, I remember this - we can't do fscaps because we use squashfs for the live cd [17:46] Keybuk: Doesn't squashfs have xattr support? [17:47] (at least in theory) [17:47] squashfs barely has permissions support ;-) [17:47] in fact, we're lucky it does directories [17:47] lol === lamont` is now known as lamont === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [19:50] I've got a python package with a setup.py which defines "entry_points" containing "console_scripts", which easy install will create into a file in the bin directory but cdbs does not seem to understand that. [19:51] Any tips, do I need to symlink, patch, or is there a way to configure cdbs to understand that? [19:55] bmm: What does cdbs need to understand about that? [19:56] If you're using the python-distutils.mk class, it should run (something like) setup.py install, which will install the script into (something like) $(DESTDIR)$(PREFIX)/bin, in which case everything will be fine [19:59] ebroder: ok, I'll have to check again then.. [20:04] ebroder: Ok, it's not working yet, but I'm to tired to finish it today. I'll have a look at it tomorrow or something. Thanks for the response! [20:05] bmm: Hmm...it's possible that cdbs is passing some weird argument that keeps the setup.py script from creating the script (like --one-version-centrally-managed or whatever that argument is called) [20:09] ebroder: I'll write that down for tomorrow :) [20:19] Hmm...I can't magically build a URL for ".dsc file of the current version of in ", right? I have to hit the API? [20:20] ebroder, apt-get source? :-) [20:20] dholbach: For arbitrary values of :) [20:20] ebroder, -t :) [20:21] Thet let's me pull from different pockets but not, say, get a maverick source package on a lucid machine [20:21] chdist might be easier [20:23] whoa... [20:23] Never seen that before [20:23] Although I still don't think that actually solves this particular problem; I'll just use the API [20:24] ebroder, what exactly are you trying to do? just get a source package from a different release? [20:24] I'm trying to write a script that does that. (This is eventually going to be for backports testing) [20:25] ebroder: something like "pull-lp-source" in u-d-t? [20:25] ebroder, to me chdist looks like a good idea for using that :) [20:26] geser: Uh...yeah. Something exactly like pull-lp-source :-P [20:26] Thanks for that [20:29] stgraber: are you interested in merging pidgin? [20:29] micahg: not really [20:29] stgraber: ok, thanks [20:29] * micahg will prepare a merge later [20:30] micahg: I just happen to be the last uploader because a colleague of mine needed a patch from upstream to be applied to our package. Latest upstream should have it so this delta can be dropped. [20:30] stgraber: right, I figured as much, but wanted to ask anyways === nemo is now known as Uriah === Uriah is now known as DGMurdockIV === DGMurdockIV is now known as nemo [20:46] skaet: ping [20:46] Riddell: hi === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === Pilif12p|afk is now known as Pilif12p === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [22:45] ogra_ac: since you appear to be able to reproduce bug #652035, can you confirm the fix for SRU verification? [22:45] Launchpad bug 652035 in alsa-lib (Ubuntu Maverick) "libasound2 not finding usb sound card" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/652035 [22:46] * ogra_ac checks which one that is [22:46] slangasek, comment 11 isnt enough ? [22:51] ogra_ac: if you can confirm that the fix crimsun uploaded to his ppa is identical to the one that was in the SRU queue? [22:51] slangasek, already done [22:51] i commented [22:53] ogra_ac: ok, thanks! === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk