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| radar | hello | 00:44 |
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| EagleScreen | hi radar225 | 00:45 |
| radar225 | I found out my VNC problem but still no fix to be found yet | 00:45 |
| radar225 | does anyone know how to get your ScreenSaver to disable when VNC is being used? | 00:45 |
| EagleScreen | only while VNC is in use? | 00:47 |
| radar225 | problem = on remote desktop the screensaver instantly activates unless I move the mouse constantly | 00:47 |
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| radar225 | also VNC over Iphone is near imposible like that | 00:48 |
| EagleScreen | radar225: what if you disable screensaver? | 00:48 |
| radar225 | with screensaver off it works fine | 00:48 |
| radar225 | ohhh at first i didnt have screensaver installed untill i just got hom | 00:49 |
| radar225 | so it was black screen I will let it time in and then try it | 00:49 |
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| Daskreech | Riddell: You are a bastard :) | 02:13 |
| Daskreech | Riddell: "I know this may be controvertial with some parts of the community but we can have unity in our new desktop" Nice wording :) | 02:13 |
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| hellder | olá | 03:27 |
| davesnothere1 | any advice on getting bluetooth working on my system? | 04:56 |
| Daskreech | davesnothere1: what version are you running? | 05:06 |
| davesnothere1 | 10.10 | 05:07 |
| davesnothere1 | Daskreech: 10.10 | 05:08 |
| Daskreech | davesnothere1: ok KDE 4.5.2 then? | 05:11 |
| davesnothere1 | Daskreech: new to Linux. How do I find that? | 05:14 |
| davesnothere1 | disregard. | 05:15 |
| davesnothere1 | KDE 4.5.1 | 05:15 |
| Daskreech | davesnothere1: help -> about KDE in any app | 05:15 |
| Daskreech | davesnothere1: Welcome to Linux and KDE by the way :) | 05:15 |
| davesnothere1 | thanks | 05:15 |
| davesnothere1 | It's been very fun so far. | 05:15 |
| davesnothere1 | just trying to get this Dell laptop working. | 05:15 |
| Daskreech | Ok I think that you may need Bluedevil | 05:17 |
| davesnothere1 | that, and libbluedevil1 are already installed. | 05:18 |
| Daskreech | hmm ok | 05:24 |
| Daskreech | Never tried BT so lets see if we can figure this out | 05:24 |
| davesnothere1 | The OS isn't even recognizing that I have BT on this box. | 05:24 |
| Daskreech | davesnothere1: what happens when you type bluetooth:/ in krunner? | 05:24 |
| davesnothere1 | I'll check....never used krunner | 05:24 |
| Daskreech | oh that might be a deeper problem | 05:24 |
| Daskreech | alt+f2 | 05:25 |
| Daskreech | you should get a little dropdown box | 05:25 |
| Daskreech | type bluetooth:/ there | 05:25 |
| davesnothere1 | I get BlueDevil, then Adapters, then Devices, then File Transfer, but if I run anything I see no configurable or available adapters. | 05:26 |
| davesnothere1 | and if I finish typing what you said.....Activity | 05:29 |
| Daskreech | ok | 05:29 |
| Daskreech | hmm | 05:29 |
| Daskreech | activity.... | 05:29 |
| Daskreech | ok | 05:29 |
| Daskreech | What's under devices ? | 05:29 |
| davesnothere1 | No adapters found | 05:30 |
| Erisianmonk23 | hello | 05:34 |
| Erisianmonk23 | why is it that everyone just fucking lurks in irc? | 05:36 |
| IdleOne | !language | Erisianmonk23 | 05:38 |
| ubottu | Erisianmonk23: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. | 05:38 |
| Erisianmonk23 | sorry | 05:38 |
| Erisianmonk23 | just expect people to be chatting in a chat room I guess | 05:38 |
| Daskreech | davesnothere1: Might need drivers then | 05:39 |
| Erisianmonk23 | anywho I am having difficuly connecting my lucid box to the interwebs | 05:39 |
| Daskreech | Erisianmonk23: how does it connect? | 05:39 |
| Erisianmonk23 | wireless | 05:39 |
| Erisianmonk23 | It was easy before, just autodetected after I set the wep and off to the races | 05:40 |
| davesnothere1 | what kind of wireless adapter Erisianmonk23? | 05:40 |
| Erisianmonk23 | card | 05:40 |
| Erisianmonk23 | I couldn' | 05:40 |
| Erisianmonk23 | t | 05:40 |
| Erisianmonk23 | tell you the make and model off the top of my head | 05:41 |
| Erisianmonk23 | and I'm pretty new to linux so that doesn't help matters | 05:42 |
| davesnothere1 | are you on the linux box now? | 05:45 |
| Erisianmonk23 | no | 05:45 |
| davesnothere1 | do you have access to it now? | 05:45 |
| Erisianmonk23 | sitting right next to me | 05:45 |
| davesnothere1 | go into Terminal and type lspci | 05:46 |
| davesnothere1 | what kind of network controller do you have? | 05:46 |
| Erisianmonk23 | RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI | 05:48 |
| davesnothere1 | I'm new to linux but if you had the same network card as I do I might have been able to help | 05:51 |
| Erisianmonk23 | what version of Kubuntu are you using? | 05:52 |
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| Erisianmonk23 | I am using Kubuntu 10.04 and the GUI is all different from the ref material | 05:59 |
| Erisianmonk23 | hello hello | 06:09 |
| Erisianmonk23 | echo echo | 06:09 |
| noaXess | Erisianmonk23: good morning, what is really your probem? | 06:10 |
| noaXess | hey Daskreech still awake or get up early? | 06:11 |
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| Sonic132 | Anyone online that can help me? | 08:00 |
| Sonic132 | Trying to get the Cricket USB modem (Cal-comp a600) to work with Kubuntu 10.04. But the guide I'm following isn't quite getting a connection to the internet. It get's it to show the signal bars though. Which is more than I got before. | 08:03 |
| Sonic132 | Anyone help? | 08:03 |
| Sonic132 | Anyone know how to install a Cricket A600 modem? | 08:05 |
| Kalidarn | hmm my cpu usage seems to be spiking abnormally but it doesn't show so in the processes table | 09:44 |
| Kalidarn | i think it's Xorg | 09:44 |
| Kalidarn | that seems to be taxing the CPU every so often but only shows like 5-10% | 09:45 |
| Kalidarn | the CPU table in System Load is spiking some cores to 100% sometimes | 09:45 |
| Kalidarn | my machine completely bogs down, im not sure if it's compositing, but i would have thought my machine was powerful enough, it's a i7 930 with 6GB of ram and a GeForce 470 GTX | 09:45 |
| Kalidarn | running off a OCZ Vertex 2 SSD | 09:46 |
| moetunes | Kalidarn: tried with different vid card drivers? | 09:47 |
| Kalidarn | i'm using the proprietary ones | 09:47 |
| Kalidarn | maybe that' sthe issue. | 09:47 |
| moetunes | could be... | 09:47 |
| Kalidarn | ill try suspending desktop effects | 09:48 |
| Kalidarn | and see if it levels out | 09:48 |
| Kalidarn | is it normal for Xorg to say tax CPU 3% then 0 | 09:49 |
| Kalidarn | then say 5% then 0 | 09:49 |
| Kalidarn | seems to be just pulsing the CPU | 09:49 |
| Kalidarn | on and off | 09:49 |
| u19809 | hi all, since my upgrade to 10.10 i have serious window focus problems. often all of a sudden I cannot close windows anymore. It looks as if the events are not sent to the window in focus. Keyboard access is the only thing left (besides a restart of the desktop) | 09:49 |
| u19809 | Any ideas ? | 09:49 |
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| zghirc | where can i find the Kubuntu widgets?The link in the pennal didn't work. | 09:53 |
| Kalidarn | http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8837/cpuusage.png to me CPU usage like that does not seem normal | 09:57 |
| Kalidarn | http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/5372/processtable.png yet the processes table doesn't really reveal any culprits | 09:58 |
| Kalidarn | http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/4250/cpuusage2.png it did calm down though when i logged out and logged back in | 09:59 |
| nemptor | hello is this the chat room for ubuntu users? | 10:17 |
| Kalidarn | its the #kubuntu channel | 10:18 |
| Tm_T | #ubuntu for support questions and #ubuntu-offtopic for chatter | 10:18 |
| Tm_T | this, #kubuntu channel, is for kubuntu support generally (: | 10:18 |
| nemptor | ok this is the channel that is stated in the ubuntu site | 10:19 |
| nemptor | anyway can i ask questions here regarding my problem with my update manager? | 10:19 |
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| Kalidarn | yeah my load average is all over the place | 10:23 |
| Kalidarn | for some strange reason | 10:23 |
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| hellnest | any bug or stability issued on kubuntu 10.10? | 10:55 |
| hellnest | *issue i mean | 10:56 |
| Tm_T | hellnest: not that I know | 10:58 |
| elimental | Only problem I encountered is pulse audio with 5.1 sound | 11:00 |
| elimental | Only mutes front speakers when head phone pluged in... rest was smooth sailing | 11:00 |
| sa_ | hello | 11:14 |
| hellnest | Hello | 11:14 |
| sa_ | how can i switch from openoffice to office in kde? not remember how it called | 11:16 |
| hellnest | sa_: It's called Koffice. Just go to sypnatics package manager ( if it's installed ) and remove your open office and then install Koffice | 11:17 |
| sa_ | thanks i'll try it now | 11:18 |
| hellnest | sa_: ok will waiting your report soon ^^ | 11:19 |
| elimental | Oh | 11:19 |
| elimental | was thinking libreoffice.... | 11:20 |
| elimental | was about to post http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.0-beta2/deb/ link :) | 11:20 |
| hellnest | lol.... :P he said regarding Office from KDE... Libre is open office fork... also there's another alternate from IBM " Symphony" | 11:21 |
| elimental | I hear a rumor *unutu will go libreoffice in 11.04 | 11:21 |
| elimental | Hope its true | 11:22 |
| hellnest | yeah they will move to libreoffice for the next release :) | 11:24 |
| * hellnest is away: Doin some stuff | 11:24 | |
| andeeeuk | hey | 11:41 |
| andeeeuk | im having a few problems with kde | 11:41 |
| andeeeuk | it seems as though kde crashed and restarted and now i am not able to enable desktop effects | 11:42 |
| andeeeuk | has anyone else had this problem? | 11:42 |
| elimental | nope..fx card? | 11:42 |
| andeeeuk | its an ati card | 11:42 |
| andeeeuk | i dont think it is an issue with the card itself though | 11:43 |
| elimental | noted | 11:43 |
| andeeeuk | cause games play ok | 11:44 |
| andeeeuk | but my windows manager really skrewed up | 11:44 |
| andeeeuk | really now good | 11:44 |
| elimental | tried moving .kde and relog to see if it works? | 11:45 |
| andeeeuk | ? | 11:45 |
| andeeeuk | ehats that? | 11:46 |
| andeeeuk | i installed it through my ubuntu system | 11:46 |
| andeeeuk | so that i could test it out and ubuntu is working perfectly as well | 11:46 |
| andeeeuk | just wanted the choice between multiple destops and was told the new kde was amazing | 11:47 |
| elimental | aaah and the plot thikens | 11:47 |
| andeeeuk | lol | 11:47 |
| elimental | what exactly did you install? | 11:47 |
| andeeeuk | well i installed the base kde packages then the kubuntu packages | 11:48 |
| elimental | Hope you installed Kubuntu plasma desktop system | 11:48 |
| elimental | In software manager in Ubuntu | 11:48 |
| andeeeuk | yeah i have that installed | 11:48 |
| elimental | you should have selected Kubuntu-desktop | 11:49 |
| andeeeuk | yeah | 11:49 |
| elimental | K | 11:49 |
| andeeeuk | well i installed through synaptic | 11:49 |
| elimental | should have been the same | 11:49 |
| andeeeuk | yeah | 11:49 |
| elimental | Only thing I can think to test is to move /home/$username$/.kde folder to say kdeback and try relogging | 11:51 |
| andeeeuk | im sure i have all the correct depencancies as i just let it get on with installing the whole of a standard kde system | 11:51 |
| andeeeuk | just renaming that folder? | 11:51 |
| elimental | yep | 11:52 |
| elimental | so KDE will create a new one | 11:52 |
| elimental | Might be that something went loopy | 11:52 |
| andeeeuk | im gussing i will just need to reboot after that then? | 11:53 |
| elimental | just log out and back in | 11:53 |
| andeeeuk | ok | 11:53 |
| andeeeuk | thanks | 11:53 |
| andeeeuk | ill give it a shot | 11:53 |
| thedog | hi all, someone may tell me why with a vodafone key I can connect my ubuntu 10.10 in a moment and with kubuntu 10.10 it won't work ??? | 12:17 |
| thedog | I've read about a software of betavine to install, but if i've not another connection to download that software I can use the only as dart | 12:19 |
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| Hedron | hi everybody, I have a issue with kubunut 10.10 and intel video whandering if anybody can help | 13:09 |
| Hedron | there is massive screen coruption when using any application | 13:10 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas | 13:38 |
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| EvilRoey | hi | 14:46 |
| EvilRoey | how do I find a window's process ID? I have a blank rectangle in the middle of my screen. I did 'xwininfo' to try and find information about it and found out it's Chromium, but xwininfo does not give me its pid.. | 14:47 |
| BluesKaj | EvilRoey, try applications/system monitor , you can stop or kill the process there too | 14:50 |
| EvilRoey | BluesKaj: see I don't know which chromium process it is, and I only have one multi-tabbed window open. | 14:56 |
| EvilRoey | BluesKaj: thanks though | 14:56 |
| EvilRoey | this is so stupid... xwininfo needs to show pid too | 14:56 |
| moetunes | EvilRoey: try pidof Chromium the first opened will have the lowest number | 15:02 |
| EvilRoey | ah cool thanks | 15:02 |
| EvilRoey | moetunes: In the end, I closed it after evaluating all the tabs | 15:03 |
| moetunes | heh :] | 15:03 |
| EvilRoey | moetunes: can pidof return multiple values for multiple processes sharing the same name? | 15:03 |
| moetunes | it should | 15:04 |
| EvilRoey | moetunes: also, is the 'moe' in your nickname from japanese animation | 15:04 |
| moetunes | EvilRoey: no more like mo' tunes | 15:04 |
| EvilRoey | ohhhh got it | 15:04 |
| EvilRoey | cool | 15:04 |
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| node808 | thats disappointing..I thought it was like moet...like the champagne and unes....like unez | 15:07 |
| * node808 puts on his ghetto thinking cap | 15:08 | |
| node808 | oh now it makes sense | 15:08 |
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| juseris | hello everyone | 16:19 |
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| gaddd | hi everyone | 16:52 |
| gaddd | i want to install kubuntu via the sudo get-apt command in ubuntu 10.10 | 16:53 |
| gaddd | however it says package not found | 16:53 |
| gaddd | help | 16:53 |
| gaddd | thanks :) | 16:53 |
| gvandeweyer | hi, I'm looking for a way to run a X11 program (vmplayer in this case) on a remote machine, without forwarding the X11 part. sort of as a service for a program that can not be started headless. and it should continue after connection loss of ssh | 16:53 |
| gvandeweyer | is this possible? unset DISPLAY will not let the program start afterwards | 16:54 |
| EagleScreen_ | gaddd: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop | 16:54 |
| gaddd | thanks a lot EagleScreen_ :) | 16:55 |
| gvandeweyer | nobody has any suggestions? :-) | 16:58 |
| dhalsimm | hi, i use twitter with the microblogging plasma widget, but when i clicked on a link, it opens with scribes text editor? ican't find configuration about it | 17:08 |
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| sa_ | it works thanks to all | 17:50 |
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| kedare | Hi all | 17:55 |
| kedare | I have a little problem with Kubuntu, the buttons that control backlights don't works (theys works fine under Ubuntu/Gnome) | 17:56 |
| kedare | When I use them, the backlight control appear on the screen, but I can't change it | 17:56 |
| urgen | I should turn off joins and parts for this window | 18:03 |
| urgen | otherwise I never see the topic | 18:03 |
| urgen | oh no.. last time I tried this on quassel I think it bogged the system down too much | 18:04 |
| urgen | wow, most of them were disconnects | 18:06 |
| urgen | the internet still has a long way to go | 18:06 |
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| kedare | Petite question, vous avez le temps avant décharge sur l'applet de batterie vous ? | 18:42 |
| Tm_T | !fr | kedare | 18:43 |
| ubottu | kedare: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc. Merci. | 18:43 |
| kedare | ubottu: oups sorry | 18:43 |
| kedare | Tm_T: sorry, bad tab ;) | 18:44 |
| spirov92 | hi, I just installed kubuntu on a HP 4520s, and I'm having trouble with the touchpad. It is supposed to support multitouch, but 2/3-finger taps and 2-finger scroll don't work | 18:55 |
| spirov92 | I've turned them on in system settings, of course | 18:55 |
| spirov92 | can anyone help? | 18:56 |
| urgen | have you done your homework? | 18:57 |
| urgen | is there anyone that has developed multitouch in linux? | 18:57 |
| urgen | sounds kinda newwave | 18:57 |
| urgen | most proprietary devices have to be reverse engineered to get them to work in linux | 18:58 |
| spirov92 | urgen: two-finger scroll worked on a much older laptop, which didn't even claim to have multitouch | 18:58 |
| urgen | hmn | 18:58 |
| spirov92 | what's the difference between kde-config-touchpad(which is installed by default) and kde-config-synaptiks? it seems they can't be installed at the same time | 18:59 |
| spirov92 | meaning when I try to install one, the other is marked for deletion | 18:59 |
| user5v | hello, how to draw a freehand line in kword on kubuntu 10.10 amd64? If I press a straight line will shown (and if If I release the stylus (a.e. mouse, tablet) there is nothing - I think because the color settings) | 19:04 |
| user5v | but even with the right color settings I have to enter some points with the mouse/stylus then I see something, but I want draw freehand while pressing mouse/stylus | 19:04 |
| user5v | what went wrong? thanks | 19:05 |
| urgen | user download openoffice | 19:05 |
| urgen | spirov92, is the touchpad on the hp4520 made by synaptics? | 19:06 |
| spirov92 | wait, I'll check | 19:07 |
| spirov92 | urgen: seems so. | 19:07 |
| urgen | http://www.linlap.com/wiki/hp+probook+4520s | 19:09 |
| urgen | hmn does your model have ATI graphics? | 19:11 |
| spirov92 | urgen: can't find anything about the touchpad | 19:12 |
| urgen | ya | 19:12 |
| spirov92 | and yeah, it has a "ati radeon" sticker | 19:12 |
| urgen | so branch to other models of laptops that may have the same hardware | 19:12 |
| * KillJoy is away: Per ora assente | 19:15 | |
| Tm_T | !away > KillJoy | 19:16 |
| ubottu | KillJoy, please see my private message | 19:16 |
| urgen | so.. it's looking like you would want to find a way to get in touch with developers in charge of that section of kubuntu and see if they haven't already scheduled attention on your concern. If not submit a request | 19:19 |
| urgen | if they have it may show up in a month or three or so | 19:19 |
| spirov92 | hmm, switched to the synaptiks package, it says my touchpad can only detect one finger... | 19:19 |
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| * KillJoy is back. | 19:35 | |
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| ubuntu_ | test | 20:49 |
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| BluesKaj | ok, now we're rockin' . I swapped the graphics cards on the linux machines .Altho the 8400gs has a lower fps on the 42" tv it's still enough , 100fps at full res full scrn vs 300 fps with the 7600gt on the 22" monitor full res full scrn using glxgears. | 20:54 |
| BluesKaj | anyway, naptime | 21:04 |
| aslaen | anyone seen hawkwind lately? | 21:12 |
| sresu | Themes downloaded for Login screen are not reflecting in the Themes slection tab. What's wrong? | 21:32 |
| sresu | System Settings Version 1.0 Using KDE Development Platform 4.5.1 (KDE 4.5.1) | 21:32 |
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| westmi | sup channel I cant find power settings for monitor | 21:49 |
| westmi | so insted of screensaver it powers off monitor | 21:50 |
| tsimpson | westmi: system settings -> power management | 21:59 |
| mahasamoot | sorry to be a bother, I've googled and come up empty handed | 22:02 |
| mahasamoot | I've just installed 10.10, and I'm looking for the option that lets you define accations for the corners of the screen | 22:03 |
| mahasamoot | id est, put your mouse pointer in one corner, and see all open windows, put it in another and get the desktop cube .... | 22:04 |
| lunitik | Hello, it says on Riddell's blog that Kubuntu is switching to Unity? Is this a joke or something? | 22:07 |
| Kalidarn | unity? | 22:08 |
| lunitik | Kalidarn: the new Ubuntu interface | 22:08 |
| apparle | hi | 22:08 |
| Kalidarn | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Unity hmm | 22:09 |
| Kalidarn | isnt that for netbooks | 22:09 |
| lunitik | Kalidarn: the Kubuntu wiki seems to mirror the Ubuntu wiki with the Kubuntu theme... | 22:09 |
| Kalidarn | oh lol. | 22:09 |
| lunitik | Kalidarn: no, they are changing the desktop to it also... where have you been? :P | 22:09 |
| Kalidarn | mmmmm | 22:09 |
| mahasamoot | never mind, I just found it, it's under window behavoir | 22:09 |
| Kalidarn | lunitik: please link i want to read about this | 22:10 |
| lunitik | Riddell: you about? | 22:10 |
| apparle | kubuntu is changing to unity...... nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo | 22:10 |
| lunitik | Kalidarn: http://voices.canonical.com/user/53/ | 22:11 |
| lunitik | Apparently Kubuntu is going to be Unity+Plasma... although I don't understand how that will work at all | 22:11 |
| Anj | When VLC can't play a DVD that Kaffeine can play, is there anything I can do? Likewise for an m4v file that only VLC can play... | 22:12 |
| lunitik | Unity basically only offers what Plasma does, so idgi | 22:12 |
| Kalidarn | lunitik: are you sure for normal desktop they're going to do that | 22:12 |
| lunitik | Kalidarn: yes, its all over every tech site related to Linux atm | 22:12 |
| apparle | damn it. I thought kubuntu was all about KDE as it is | 22:13 |
| Kalidarn | i kinda like the menustrip actually being the window border | 22:13 |
| Kalidarn | that's a cool idea | 22:13 |
| lunitik | Anj: you have libdvdcss installed from the Ubuntu Multimedia repo? | 22:13 |
| Anj | yes | 22:13 |
| lunitik | Anj: then they should both work fine | 22:14 |
| Kalidarn | http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4125/5105537204_ee7e0c150a_b.jpg if that image is anything to go by | 22:14 |
| apparle | If kubuntu and ubuntu are alike, then what's the point? in keeping two distros? | 22:14 |
| Anj | lunitik, I have w32codecs, libdvdcss and everything. it's just that I need both kaffeine and VLC because neither one plays everything. :/ | 22:14 |
| lunitik | apparle: perhaps that's the point... I mean, Zimmerman - head of tech for Canonical - just came out saying how he loves Qt... maybe they're coming together? | 22:14 |
| Kalidarn | oh that would be nice if they did | 22:15 |
| apparle | maybe maybe not | 22:15 |
| Kalidarn | i love Qt too :P | 22:15 |
| apparle | I always loved the fact that kubuntu was not for really dumb people. | 22:15 |
| edulix | can I download a kubuntu iso with all current updates inside? | 22:15 |
| Riddell | lunitik: not really | 22:15 |
| Kalidarn | (07:45:38) apparle: I always loved the fact that kubuntu was not for really dumb people. | 22:16 |
| Kalidarn | if by that you mean KDE has had usability issues in the past | 22:16 |
| Kalidarn | i hardly doubt that is the same thing | 22:16 |
| apparle | Kalidarn: no | 22:16 |
| lunitik | Riddell: Care to explain how Kubuntu will be using Unity? I don't really understand and can find nothing on the subject via the wiki or internet | 22:16 |
| Kalidarn | gnome changes were much more conservative | 22:16 |
| Kalidarn | i don't consider myself a dumb person but I stopped using Kubuntu around 6.04 | 22:17 |
| * lunitik loves http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4vv7yFaqxw which is entirely Qt (heavily utilizing QML) | 22:17 | |
| apparle | I meant that, kubuntu and KDE are for power users. There you have lots and lots of options and not just some default options and nothing else | 22:17 |
| Kalidarn | doesn't maemo use Qt heaps? | 22:17 |
| Kalidarn | i do like plasma folderview | 22:18 |
| lunitik | Kalidarn: Maemo doesn't exist anymore... Maemo and Moblin merged into MeeGo, which that video shows off | 22:18 |
| apparle | guys don't drift, Qt is awesome but what is happening to kubuntu | 22:18 |
| Kalidarn | ah | 22:18 |
| Kalidarn | meego looks like macosx lion | 22:18 |
| lunitik | apparle: if Riddell is too busy to elaborate, we can't really continue that discussion | 22:18 |
| lunitik | Kalidarn: not really, but I can see why you might say that | 22:19 |
| apparle | if kubuntu and ubuntu have same desktop interfaces then lets just remove the K | 22:19 |
| apparle | :( | 22:19 |
| apparle | :'( | 22:19 |
| Kalidarn | i doubt that it would be like that at all | 22:19 |
| apparle | lets hope | 22:19 |
| lunitik | apparle: I'm sure it'll still utilize KDE apps | 22:20 |
| Kalidarn | yeah | 22:20 |
| apparle | I suppose maybe in 2-3 years ubuntu will shift to gnome | 22:20 |
| apparle | it should rather | 22:20 |
| Kalidarn | lol what are you going on about | 22:20 |
| Riddell | lunitik: it won't, we use KDE | 22:20 |
| Kalidarn | ubuntu is already gnome | 22:20 |
| lunitik | apparle: Ubuntu is shifting away from Gnome it seems | 22:20 |
| apparle | sorry | 22:21 |
| apparle | I wanted to say kde | 22:21 |
| apparle | :P | 22:21 |
| Kalidarn | kde has become more stable and is really set up nicely ;) | 22:21 |
| Kalidarn | more stability and it will be awesome | 22:21 |
| lunitik | Riddell: Then how come your blog says you're dropping KDE and using Unity? | 22:21 |
| Kalidarn | because to be honest im not impressed by gnome 3 | 22:21 |
| Kalidarn | i think it includes a bunch of wank | 22:21 |
| lunitik | Riddell: just a pun based on how Plasma is actually what people believe KDE is? | 22:22 |
| apparle | I was happy that by KDE 4.5 kubuntu will be awesomely stable, but now comes unity | 22:22 |
| Kalidarn | i like kickoff way more than i like their menu | 22:22 |
| Riddell | lunitik: it says the branding changed from KDE Desktop to Plasma Workspace (made by KDE) | 22:22 |
| Kalidarn | actually ive wondered why the kickoff menu still has a KDE icon and not a kubuntu one actually | 22:23 |
| apparle | even if unity is superawesome then also it will not be stable, so again we have to suffer instability like in intrepid | 22:23 |
| lunitik | Riddell: ahh, you scared me when I first read your blog... lol | 22:23 |
| apparle | Kalidarn: I read an article somwhere on it | 22:23 |
| Kalidarn | they changed the gnome foot to an ubunu logo | 22:23 |
| Kalidarn | that said i like the K gear | 22:24 |
| Kalidarn | it is cool | 22:24 |
| Kalidarn | it would make a good tatoo | 22:24 |
| Kalidarn | *tattoo | 22:24 |
| Kalidarn | now i should figure out why kdelibs won't compile on my mac :P | 22:25 |
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| apparle | Riddell: I seriously suggest you change the wordings in your blog..... you scared me...... | 22:31 |
| Riddell | apparle: well it's ment to do that on first reading but become clear on second reading, maybe not everyone does that second reading | 22:32 |
| apparle | Riddell: :) | 22:32 |
| teadict | can I ecryptf-umount my home partition from live kubuntu? | 22:41 |
| * Torch is reminded of "no more desktop icons" | 22:42 | |
| lieuwe | hey, to write scripts for konversation i need to use dcop, but the python-dcop package doesnt seem to exist, any sugestions? | 23:00 |
| Torch | lieuwe: kde4? | 23:01 |
| lieuwe | Torch: eh, dunno :P, probably | 23:02 |
| lieuwe | Torch: no idea how to interface with konversation without dcop... | 23:03 |
| Kalidarn | i think your supposed to use dbus now | 23:03 |
| Torch | lieuwe: kde4 does not use dcop anymore | 23:03 |
| Torch | lieuwe: use dbus. | 23:03 |
| lieuwe | Torch: ooohkey | 23:03 |
| Torch | lieuwe: google helps ;-) | 23:03 |
| lieuwe | ... | 23:03 |
| Torch | lieuwe: qdbus shows you what an app can do. | 23:03 |
| Kalidarn | http://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-faq.html#dcop | 23:04 |
| lieuwe | Torch: next problem, wtf is the well known name for konversation? cant find it on google | 23:06 |
| Torch | lieuwe: konversation is konversation. | 23:10 |
| lieuwe | okay | 23:10 |
| lieuwe | :-3 | 23:10 |
| Torch | lieuwe: i don't see why you're asking that. use qdbus to query konversation what it offers via dbus | 23:10 |
| Torch | lieuwe: there's also #konversation | 23:10 |
| lieuwe | Torch: #konversation is pretty much dead, qdbus gives me an error | 23:12 |
| Torch | lieuwe: #konversation definitely is not dead | 23:12 |
| Torch | lieuwe: it might be quiet right now. show some patience. | 23:12 |
| Torch | lieuwe: what's the error you're getting? | 23:12 |
| lieuwe | Torch: http://pastebin.com/rSj0REQh | 23:13 |
| apparle | how to update from lucid to maverick from command line? | 23:14 |
| Torch | lieuwe: this is from just plain calling qdbus on a shell prompt without args? | 23:14 |
| lieuwe | no, i was being silly, got it :-3 | 23:14 |
| apparle | !update | 23:15 |
| ubottu | For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - To upgrade to Karmic (9.10) directly from Hardy (8.04) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KarmicUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04 - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading | 23:15 |
| apparle | !upgrade | 23:16 |
| ubottu | For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - To upgrade to Karmic (9.10) directly from Hardy (8.04) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KarmicUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04 - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading | 23:16 |
| apparle | Isn't there any command line way to do upgrade? | 23:17 |
| Torch | apparle: there is. edit /etc/apt/sources.list and do apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade | 23:17 |
| apparle | Torch: that's it? is that what an update does? just the list and then pkg update? | 23:18 |
| Torch | apparle: yes. | 23:18 |
| Torch | apparle: this is debian ;-) | 23:18 |
| apparle | that is simple | 23:19 |
| apparle | I mean if packages install well :P | 23:19 |
| bazhang | Torch, apparle thats not the recommended nor supported method | 23:19 |
| apparle | bazhang: what is recommended then? | 23:19 |
| bazhang | apparle, you running a server? | 23:19 |
| apparle | no | 23:19 |
| apparle | bazhang: but I hate kpackagekit | 23:20 |
| bazhang | apparle, read the upgrade link yet? | 23:20 |
| apparle | bazhang: ya | 23:20 |
| Torch | bazhang: what's wrong with itß | 23:20 |
| Torch | bazhang: what's wrong with it? | 23:20 |
| FloodBotK2 | Torch: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. | 23:20 |
| apparle | it shows gui only method? | 23:20 |
| bazhang | Torch, its not supported nor recommended, so please dont recommend it here, thanks. | 23:20 |
| Torch | bazhang: again, what is wrong with it? | 23:21 |
| Torch | bazhang: do you understand what it does? | 23:21 |
| bazhang | Torch, of course. lets move on please | 23:21 |
| apparle | bazhang any ideas for me | 23:21 |
| Torch | apparle: just use apt-get and be done with it. | 23:21 |
| apparle | Torch: ohhh come on.. don't be stubborn, let me see the recommended method | 23:22 |
| Torch | apparle: i have no idea what (k)ubuntu recommend | 23:22 |
| Torch | apparle: it's how debian-based distributions are being updated. | 23:22 |
| apparle | bazhang: ? | 23:22 |
| viliny_ | Hello! | 23:23 |
| viliny_ | i have some questions - be it kde or gnome - is there any way to reduce the size of the header of windowses - the part that shows window name and buttons? running on a netbook here and i could use the screen space | 23:24 |
| bazhang | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades#Network%20Upgrade%20for%20Kubuntu%20Desktops%20%28Recommended%29 apparle | 23:24 |
| viliny_ | also, is there a way to pretend use a largers resolution running above what the netbook supports natively with some screen compression? | 23:25 |
| apparle | bazhang: it sends me here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades/Kubuntu which doesn't suggest any non gui method | 23:26 |
| apparle | viliny_: are you aware of the netbook edition? | 23:27 |
| viliny_ | yes i am | 23:27 |
| viliny_ | in fact i have that installed | 23:27 |
| viliny_ | but this is a question that i also had from using my desktops and laptop - unnecessarily large borders | 23:27 |
| apparle | :P I don't know anything else..... never used a netbook myself | 23:27 |
| apparle | viliny_: I also have noticed that in case of KDE, | 23:28 |
| apparle | viliny_: but it is the way it looks so, I don't think it can be changed | 23:28 |
| viliny_ | aww | 23:29 |
| apparle | viliny_: but don't take my word because I have not made it :P Maybe you can find a theme with slimer border etc | 23:30 |
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| apparle | viliny_: have you tried meego | 23:38 |
| apparle | viliny_: not exactly ready for primetime but seems good from screen shots | 23:38 |
| viliny_ | my phone has maemo :) | 23:39 |
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