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radarhello00:44
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EagleScreenhi radar22500:45
radar225I found out my VNC problem but still no fix to be found yet00:45
radar225does anyone know how to get your ScreenSaver to disable when VNC is being used?00:45
EagleScreenonly while VNC is in use?00:47
radar225problem = on remote desktop the screensaver instantly activates unless I move the mouse constantly00:47
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radar225also VNC over Iphone is near imposible like that00:48
EagleScreenradar225: what if you disable screensaver?00:48
radar225with screensaver off it works fine00:48
radar225ohhh at first i didnt have screensaver installed untill i just got hom00:49
radar225so it was black screen I will let it time in and then try it00:49
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DaskreechRiddell: You are a bastard :)02:13
DaskreechRiddell: "I know this may be controvertial with some parts of the community but we can have unity in our new desktop" Nice wording :)02:13
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hellderolá03:27
davesnothere1any advice on getting bluetooth working on my system?04:56
Daskreechdavesnothere1: what version are you running?05:06
davesnothere110.1005:07
davesnothere1Daskreech: 10.1005:08
Daskreechdavesnothere1: ok KDE 4.5.2 then?05:11
davesnothere1Daskreech: new to Linux. How do I find that?05:14
davesnothere1disregard.05:15
davesnothere1KDE 4.5.105:15
Daskreechdavesnothere1: help -> about KDE in any app05:15
Daskreechdavesnothere1: Welcome to Linux and KDE by the way :)05:15
davesnothere1thanks05:15
davesnothere1It's been very fun so far.05:15
davesnothere1just trying to get this Dell laptop working.05:15
DaskreechOk I think that you may need Bluedevil05:17
davesnothere1that, and libbluedevil1 are already installed.05:18
Daskreechhmm ok05:24
DaskreechNever tried BT so lets see if we can figure this out05:24
davesnothere1The OS isn't even recognizing that I have BT on this box.05:24
Daskreechdavesnothere1: what happens when you type bluetooth:/ in krunner?05:24
davesnothere1I'll check....never used krunner05:24
Daskreechoh that might be a deeper problem05:24
Daskreechalt+f205:25
Daskreechyou should get a little dropdown box05:25
Daskreechtype bluetooth:/ there05:25
davesnothere1I get BlueDevil, then Adapters, then Devices, then File Transfer, but if I run anything I see no configurable or available adapters.05:26
davesnothere1and if I finish typing what you said.....Activity05:29
Daskreechok05:29
Daskreechhmm05:29
Daskreechactivity....05:29
Daskreechok05:29
DaskreechWhat's under devices ?05:29
davesnothere1No adapters found05:30
Erisianmonk23hello05:34
Erisianmonk23why is it that everyone just fucking lurks in irc?05:36
IdleOne!language | Erisianmonk2305:38
ubottuErisianmonk23: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.05:38
Erisianmonk23sorry05:38
Erisianmonk23just expect people to be chatting in a chat room I guess05:38
Daskreechdavesnothere1: Might need drivers then05:39
Erisianmonk23anywho I am having difficuly connecting my lucid box to the interwebs05:39
DaskreechErisianmonk23: how does it connect?05:39
Erisianmonk23wireless05:39
Erisianmonk23It was easy before, just autodetected after I set the wep and off to the races05:40
davesnothere1what kind of wireless adapter Erisianmonk23?05:40
Erisianmonk23card05:40
Erisianmonk23I couldn'05:40
Erisianmonk23t05:40
Erisianmonk23tell you the make and model off the top of my head05:41
Erisianmonk23and I'm pretty new to linux so that doesn't help matters05:42
davesnothere1are you on the linux box now?05:45
Erisianmonk23no05:45
davesnothere1do you have access to it now?05:45
Erisianmonk23sitting right next to me05:45
davesnothere1go into Terminal and type lspci05:46
davesnothere1what kind of network controller do you have?05:46
Erisianmonk23RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI05:48
davesnothere1I'm new to linux but if you had the same network card as I do I might have been able to help05:51
Erisianmonk23what version of Kubuntu are you using?05:52
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Erisianmonk23I am using Kubuntu 10.04 and the GUI is all different from the ref material05:59
Erisianmonk23hello hello06:09
Erisianmonk23echo echo06:09
noaXessErisianmonk23: good morning, what is really your probem?06:10
noaXesshey Daskreech still awake or get up early?06:11
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Sonic132Anyone online that can help me?08:00
Sonic132Trying to get the Cricket USB modem (Cal-comp a600) to work with Kubuntu 10.04. But the guide I'm following isn't quite getting a connection to the internet. It get's it to show the signal bars though. Which is more than I got before.08:03
Sonic132Anyone help?08:03
Sonic132Anyone know how to install a Cricket A600 modem?08:05
Kalidarnhmm my cpu usage seems to be spiking abnormally but it doesn't show so in the processes table09:44
Kalidarni think it's Xorg09:44
Kalidarnthat seems to be taxing the CPU every so often but only shows like 5-10%09:45
Kalidarnthe CPU table in System Load is spiking some cores to 100% sometimes09:45
Kalidarnmy machine completely bogs down, im not sure if it's compositing, but i would have thought my machine was powerful enough, it's a i7 930 with 6GB of ram and a GeForce 470 GTX09:45
Kalidarnrunning off a OCZ Vertex 2 SSD09:46
moetunesKalidarn:  tried with different vid card drivers?09:47
Kalidarni'm using the proprietary ones09:47
Kalidarnmaybe that' sthe issue.09:47
moetunescould be...09:47
Kalidarnill try suspending desktop effects09:48
Kalidarnand see if it levels out09:48
Kalidarnis it normal for Xorg to say tax CPU 3% then 009:49
Kalidarnthen say 5% then 009:49
Kalidarnseems to be just pulsing the CPU09:49
Kalidarnon and off09:49
u19809hi all, since my upgrade to 10.10 i have serious window focus problems.  often all of a sudden I cannot close windows anymore.  It looks as if the events are not sent to the window in focus.  Keyboard access is the only thing left (besides a restart of the desktop)09:49
u19809Any ideas ?09:49
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zghircwhere can i find the Kubuntu widgets?The link in the pennal didn't work.09:53
Kalidarnhttp://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8837/cpuusage.png to me CPU usage like that does not seem normal09:57
Kalidarnhttp://img812.imageshack.us/img812/5372/processtable.png yet the processes table doesn't really reveal any culprits09:58
Kalidarnhttp://img32.imageshack.us/img32/4250/cpuusage2.png it did calm down though when i logged out and logged back in09:59
nemptorhello is this the chat room for ubuntu users?10:17
Kalidarnits the #kubuntu channel10:18
Tm_T#ubuntu for support questions and #ubuntu-offtopic for chatter10:18
Tm_Tthis, #kubuntu channel, is for kubuntu support generally (:10:18
nemptorok this is the channel that is stated in the ubuntu site10:19
nemptoranyway can i ask questions here regarding my problem with my update manager?10:19
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Kalidarnyeah my load average is all over the place10:23
Kalidarnfor some strange reason10:23
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hellnestany bug or stability issued on kubuntu 10.10?10:55
hellnest*issue i mean10:56
Tm_Thellnest: not that I know10:58
elimentalOnly problem I encountered is pulse audio with 5.1 sound11:00
elimentalOnly mutes front speakers when head phone pluged in... rest was smooth sailing11:00
sa_hello11:14
hellnestHello11:14
sa_how can i switch from openoffice to office in kde? not remember how it called11:16
hellnestsa_: It's called Koffice. Just go to sypnatics package manager ( if it's installed ) and remove your open office and then install Koffice11:17
sa_thanks i'll try it now11:18
hellnestsa_: ok will waiting your report soon ^^11:19
elimentalOh11:19
elimentalwas thinking libreoffice....11:20
elimentalwas about to post http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.0-beta2/deb/ link :)11:20
hellnestlol.... :P he said regarding Office from KDE... Libre is open office fork... also there's another alternate from IBM " Symphony"11:21
elimentalI hear a rumor *unutu will go libreoffice in 11.0411:21
elimentalHope its true11:22
hellnestyeah they will move to libreoffice for the next release :)11:24
* hellnest is away: Doin some stuff11:24
andeeeukhey11:41
andeeeukim having a few problems with kde11:41
andeeeukit seems as though kde crashed and restarted and now i am not able to enable desktop effects11:42
andeeeukhas anyone else had this problem?11:42
elimentalnope..fx card?11:42
andeeeukits an ati card11:42
andeeeuki dont think it is an issue with the card itself though11:43
elimentalnoted11:43
andeeeukcause games play ok11:44
andeeeukbut my windows manager really skrewed up11:44
andeeeukreally now good11:44
elimentaltried moving .kde and relog to see if it works?11:45
andeeeuk?11:45
andeeeukehats that?11:46
andeeeuki installed it through my ubuntu system11:46
andeeeukso that i could test it out and ubuntu is working perfectly as well11:46
andeeeukjust wanted the choice between multiple destops and was told the new kde was amazing11:47
elimentalaaah and the plot thikens11:47
andeeeuklol11:47
elimentalwhat exactly did you install?11:47
andeeeukwell i installed the base kde packages then the kubuntu packages11:48
elimentalHope you installed Kubuntu plasma desktop system11:48
elimentalIn software manager in Ubuntu11:48
andeeeukyeah i have that installed11:48
elimentalyou should have selected Kubuntu-desktop11:49
andeeeukyeah11:49
elimentalK11:49
andeeeukwell i installed through synaptic11:49
elimentalshould have been the same11:49
andeeeukyeah11:49
elimentalOnly thing I can think to test is to move /home/$username$/.kde folder to say kdeback and try relogging11:51
andeeeukim sure i have all the correct depencancies as i just let it get on with installing the whole of a standard kde system11:51
andeeeukjust renaming that folder?11:51
elimentalyep11:52
elimentalso KDE will create a new one11:52
elimentalMight be that something went loopy11:52
andeeeukim gussing i will just need to reboot after that then?11:53
elimentaljust log out and back in11:53
andeeeukok11:53
andeeeukthanks11:53
andeeeukill give it a shot11:53
thedoghi all, someone may tell me why with a vodafone key I can connect my ubuntu 10.10 in a moment and with kubuntu 10.10 it won't work ???12:17
thedogI've read about a software of betavine to install, but if i've not another connection to download that software I can use the only as dart12:19
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Hedronhi everybody, I have a issue with kubunut 10.10 and intel video whandering if anybody can help13:09
Hedronthere is massive screen coruption when using any application13:10
BluesKajHiyas13:38
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EvilRoeyhi14:46
EvilRoeyhow do I find a window's process ID?  I have a blank rectangle in the middle of my screen.  I did 'xwininfo' to try and find information about it and found out it's Chromium, but xwininfo does not give me its pid..14:47
BluesKajEvilRoey, try applications/system monitor , you can stop or kill the process there too14:50
EvilRoeyBluesKaj:  see I don't know which chromium process it is, and I only have one multi-tabbed window open.14:56
EvilRoeyBluesKaj:  thanks though14:56
EvilRoeythis is so stupid... xwininfo needs to show pid too14:56
moetunesEvilRoey:  try   pidof Chromium   the first opened will have the lowest number15:02
EvilRoeyah cool thanks15:02
EvilRoeymoetunes:  In the end, I closed it after evaluating all the tabs15:03
moetunesheh :]15:03
EvilRoeymoetunes:  can pidof return multiple values for multiple processes sharing the same name?15:03
moetunesit should15:04
EvilRoeymoetunes:  also, is the 'moe' in your nickname from japanese animation15:04
moetunesEvilRoey:  no more like mo' tunes15:04
EvilRoeyohhhh got it15:04
EvilRoeycool15:04
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node808thats disappointing..I thought it was like moet...like the champagne and unes....like unez15:07
* node808 puts on his ghetto thinking cap15:08
node808oh now it makes sense15:08
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juserishello everyone16:19
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gadddhi everyone16:52
gadddi want to install kubuntu via the sudo get-apt command in ubuntu 10.1016:53
gadddhowever it says package not found16:53
gadddhelp16:53
gadddthanks :)16:53
gvandeweyerhi, I'm looking for a way to run a X11 program (vmplayer in this case) on a remote machine, without forwarding the X11 part.  sort of as a service for a program that can not be started headless. and it should continue after connection loss of ssh16:53
gvandeweyeris this possible?  unset DISPLAY will not let the program start afterwards16:54
EagleScreen_gaddd: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop16:54
gadddthanks a lot EagleScreen_ :)16:55
gvandeweyernobody has any suggestions? :-)16:58
dhalsimmhi, i use twitter with the microblogging plasma widget, but when i clicked on a link, it opens with scribes text editor? ican't find configuration about it17:08
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sa_it works thanks to all17:50
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kedareHi all17:55
kedareI have a little problem with Kubuntu, the buttons that control backlights don't works (theys works fine under Ubuntu/Gnome)17:56
kedareWhen I use them, the backlight control appear on the screen, but I can't change it17:56
urgenI should turn off joins and parts for this window18:03
urgenotherwise I never see the topic18:03
urgenoh no.. last time I tried this on quassel I think it bogged the system down too much18:04
urgenwow, most of them were disconnects18:06
urgenthe internet still has a long way to go18:06
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kedarePetite question, vous avez le temps avant décharge sur l'applet de batterie vous ?18:42
Tm_T!fr | kedare18:43
ubottukedare: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc. Merci.18:43
kedareubottu: oups sorry18:43
kedareTm_T: sorry, bad tab ;)18:44
spirov92hi, I just installed kubuntu on a HP 4520s, and I'm having trouble with the touchpad. It is supposed to support multitouch, but 2/3-finger taps and 2-finger scroll don't work18:55
spirov92I've turned them on in system settings, of course18:55
spirov92can anyone help?18:56
urgenhave you done your homework?18:57
urgenis there anyone that has developed multitouch in linux?18:57
urgensounds kinda newwave18:57
urgenmost proprietary devices have to be reverse engineered to get them to work in linux18:58
spirov92urgen: two-finger scroll worked on a much older laptop, which didn't even claim to have multitouch18:58
urgenhmn18:58
spirov92what's the difference between kde-config-touchpad(which is installed by default) and kde-config-synaptiks? it seems they can't be installed at the same time18:59
spirov92meaning when I try to install one, the other is marked for deletion18:59
user5vhello, how to draw a freehand line in kword on kubuntu 10.10 amd64? If I press a straight line will shown (and if If I release the stylus (a.e. mouse, tablet) there is nothing - I think because the color settings)19:04
user5vbut even with the right color settings I have to enter some points with the mouse/stylus then I see something, but I want draw freehand while pressing mouse/stylus19:04
user5vwhat went wrong? thanks19:05
urgenuser download openoffice19:05
urgenspirov92, is the touchpad on the hp4520 made by synaptics?19:06
spirov92wait, I'll check19:07
spirov92urgen: seems so.19:07
urgenhttp://www.linlap.com/wiki/hp+probook+4520s19:09
urgenhmn does your model have ATI graphics?19:11
spirov92urgen: can't find anything about the touchpad19:12
urgenya19:12
spirov92and yeah, it has a "ati radeon" sticker19:12
urgenso branch to other models of laptops that may have the same hardware19:12
* KillJoy is away: Per ora assente19:15
Tm_T!away > KillJoy19:16
ubottuKillJoy, please see my private message19:16
urgenso.. it's looking like you would want to find a way to get in touch with developers in charge of that section of kubuntu and see if they haven't already scheduled attention on your concern. If not submit a request19:19
urgenif they have it may show up in a month or three or so19:19
spirov92hmm, switched to the synaptiks package, it says my touchpad can only detect one finger...19:19
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* KillJoy is back.19:35
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ubuntu_test20:49
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BluesKajok, now we're rockin' . I swapped the graphics cards  on the linux machines .Altho the 8400gs has a lower fps on the 42" tv it's still enough , 100fps at full res full scrn vs 300 fps with the 7600gt on the 22" monitor full res full scrn using glxgears.20:54
BluesKajanyway, naptime21:04
aslaenanyone seen hawkwind lately?21:12
sresuThemes downloaded for Login screen are not reflecting in the Themes slection tab. What's wrong?21:32
sresuSystem Settings Version 1.0 Using KDE Development Platform 4.5.1 (KDE 4.5.1)21:32
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westmisup channel I cant find power settings for monitor21:49
westmiso insted of screensaver it powers off monitor21:50
tsimpsonwestmi: system settings -> power management21:59
mahasamootsorry to be a bother, I've googled and come up empty handed22:02
mahasamootI've just installed 10.10, and I'm looking for the option that lets you define accations for the corners of the screen22:03
mahasamootid est, put your mouse pointer in one corner, and see all open windows, put it in another and get the desktop cube ....22:04
lunitikHello, it says on Riddell's blog that Kubuntu is switching to Unity? Is this a joke or something?22:07
Kalidarnunity?22:08
lunitikKalidarn: the new Ubuntu interface22:08
apparlehi22:08
Kalidarnhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/Unity hmm22:09
Kalidarnisnt that for netbooks22:09
lunitikKalidarn: the Kubuntu wiki seems to mirror the Ubuntu wiki with the Kubuntu theme...22:09
Kalidarnoh lol.22:09
lunitikKalidarn: no, they are changing the desktop to it also... where have you been?  :P22:09
Kalidarnmmmmm22:09
mahasamootnever mind, I just found it, it's under window behavoir22:09
Kalidarnlunitik: please link i want to read about this22:10
lunitikRiddell: you about?22:10
apparlekubuntu is changing to unity...... nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo22:10
lunitikKalidarn: http://voices.canonical.com/user/53/22:11
lunitikApparently Kubuntu is going to be Unity+Plasma... although I don't understand how that will work at all22:11
AnjWhen VLC can't play a DVD that Kaffeine can play, is there anything I can do? Likewise for an m4v file that only VLC can play...22:12
lunitikUnity basically only offers what Plasma does, so idgi22:12
Kalidarnlunitik: are you sure for normal desktop they're going to do that22:12
lunitikKalidarn: yes, its all over every tech site related to Linux atm22:12
apparledamn it. I thought kubuntu was all about KDE as it is22:13
Kalidarni kinda like the menustrip actually being the window border22:13
Kalidarnthat's a cool idea22:13
lunitikAnj: you have libdvdcss installed from the Ubuntu Multimedia repo?22:13
Anjyes22:13
lunitikAnj: then they should both work fine22:14
Kalidarnhttp://farm5.static.flickr.com/4125/5105537204_ee7e0c150a_b.jpg if that image is anything to go by22:14
apparleIf kubuntu and ubuntu are alike, then what's the point? in keeping two distros?22:14
Anjlunitik, I have w32codecs, libdvdcss and everything. it's just that I need both kaffeine and VLC because neither one plays everything. :/22:14
lunitikapparle: perhaps that's the point... I mean, Zimmerman - head of tech for Canonical - just came out saying how he loves Qt... maybe they're coming together?22:14
Kalidarnoh that would be nice if they did22:15
apparlemaybe maybe not22:15
Kalidarni love Qt too :P22:15
apparleI always loved the fact that kubuntu was not for really dumb people.22:15
edulixcan I download a kubuntu iso with all current updates inside?22:15
Riddelllunitik: not really22:15
Kalidarn(07:45:38) apparle: I always loved the fact that kubuntu was not for really dumb people.22:16
Kalidarnif by that you mean KDE has had usability issues in the past22:16
Kalidarni hardly doubt that is the same thing22:16
apparleKalidarn: no22:16
lunitikRiddell: Care to explain how Kubuntu will be using Unity? I don't really understand and can find nothing on the subject via the wiki or internet22:16
Kalidarngnome changes were much more conservative22:16
Kalidarni don't consider myself a dumb person but I stopped using Kubuntu around 6.0422:17
* lunitik loves http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4vv7yFaqxw which is entirely Qt (heavily utilizing QML)22:17
apparleI meant that, kubuntu and KDE are for power users. There you have lots and lots of options and not just some default options and nothing else22:17
Kalidarndoesn't maemo use Qt heaps?22:17
Kalidarni do like plasma folderview22:18
lunitikKalidarn: Maemo doesn't exist anymore... Maemo and Moblin merged into MeeGo, which that video shows off22:18
apparleguys don't drift, Qt is awesome but what is happening to kubuntu22:18
Kalidarnah22:18
Kalidarnmeego looks like macosx lion22:18
lunitikapparle: if Riddell is too busy to elaborate, we can't really continue that discussion22:18
lunitikKalidarn: not really, but I can see why you might say that22:19
apparleif kubuntu and ubuntu have same desktop interfaces then lets just remove the K22:19
apparle:(22:19
apparle:'(22:19
Kalidarni doubt that it would be like that at all22:19
apparlelets hope22:19
lunitikapparle: I'm sure it'll still utilize KDE apps22:20
Kalidarnyeah22:20
apparleI suppose maybe in 2-3 years ubuntu will shift to gnome22:20
apparleit should rather22:20
Kalidarnlol what are you going on about22:20
Riddelllunitik: it won't, we use KDE22:20
Kalidarnubuntu is already gnome22:20
lunitikapparle: Ubuntu is shifting away from Gnome it seems22:20
apparlesorry22:21
apparleI wanted to say kde22:21
apparle:P22:21
Kalidarnkde has become more stable and is really set up nicely ;)22:21
Kalidarnmore stability and it will be awesome22:21
lunitikRiddell: Then how come your blog says you're dropping KDE and using Unity?22:21
Kalidarnbecause to be honest im not impressed by gnome 322:21
Kalidarni think it includes a bunch of wank22:21
lunitikRiddell: just a pun based on how Plasma is actually what people believe KDE is?22:22
apparleI was happy that by KDE 4.5 kubuntu will be awesomely stable, but now comes unity22:22
Kalidarni like kickoff way more than i like their menu22:22
Riddelllunitik: it says the branding changed from KDE Desktop to Plasma Workspace (made by KDE)22:22
Kalidarnactually ive wondered why the kickoff menu still has a KDE icon and not a kubuntu one actually22:23
apparleeven if unity is superawesome then also it will not be stable, so again we have to suffer instability like in intrepid22:23
lunitikRiddell: ahh, you scared me when I first read your blog... lol22:23
apparleKalidarn: I read an article somwhere on it22:23
Kalidarnthey changed the gnome foot to an ubunu logo22:23
Kalidarnthat said i like the K gear22:24
Kalidarnit is cool22:24
Kalidarnit would make a good tatoo22:24
Kalidarn*tattoo22:24
Kalidarnnow i should figure out why kdelibs won't compile on my mac :P22:25
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apparleRiddell: I seriously suggest you change the wordings in your blog..... you scared me......22:31
Riddellapparle: well it's ment to do that on first reading but become clear on second reading, maybe not everyone does that second reading22:32
apparleRiddell: :)22:32
teadictcan I ecryptf-umount my home partition from live kubuntu?22:41
* Torch is reminded of "no more desktop icons"22:42
lieuwehey, to write scripts for konversation i need to use dcop, but the python-dcop package doesnt seem to exist, any sugestions?23:00
Torchlieuwe: kde4?23:01
lieuweTorch: eh, dunno :P, probably23:02
lieuweTorch: no idea how to interface with konversation without dcop...23:03
Kalidarni think your supposed to use dbus now23:03
Torchlieuwe: kde4 does not use dcop anymore23:03
Torchlieuwe: use dbus.23:03
lieuweTorch: ooohkey23:03
Torchlieuwe: google helps ;-)23:03
lieuwe...23:03
Torchlieuwe: qdbus shows you what an app can do.23:03
Kalidarnhttp://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-faq.html#dcop23:04
lieuweTorch: next problem, wtf is the well known name for konversation? cant find it on google23:06
Torchlieuwe: konversation is konversation.23:10
lieuweokay23:10
lieuwe:-323:10
Torchlieuwe: i don't see why you're asking that. use qdbus to query konversation what it offers via dbus23:10
Torchlieuwe: there's also #konversation23:10
lieuweTorch: #konversation is pretty much dead, qdbus gives me an error23:12
Torchlieuwe: #konversation definitely is not dead23:12
Torchlieuwe: it might be quiet right now. show some patience.23:12
Torchlieuwe: what's the error you're getting?23:12
lieuweTorch: http://pastebin.com/rSj0REQh23:13
apparlehow to update from lucid to maverick from command line?23:14
Torchlieuwe: this is from just plain calling qdbus on a shell prompt without args?23:14
lieuweno, i was being silly, got it :-323:14
apparle!update23:15
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - To upgrade to Karmic (9.10) directly from Hardy (8.04) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KarmicUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04 - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading23:15
apparle!upgrade23:16
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - To upgrade to Karmic (9.10) directly from Hardy (8.04) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KarmicUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04 - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading23:16
apparleIsn't there any command line way to do upgrade?23:17
Torchapparle: there is. edit /etc/apt/sources.list and do apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade23:17
apparleTorch: that's it? is that what an update does? just the list and then pkg update?23:18
Torchapparle: yes.23:18
Torchapparle: this is debian ;-)23:18
apparlethat is simple23:19
apparleI mean if packages install well :P23:19
bazhangTorch, apparle thats not the recommended nor supported method23:19
apparlebazhang: what is recommended then?23:19
bazhangapparle, you running a server?23:19
apparleno23:19
apparlebazhang: but I hate kpackagekit23:20
bazhangapparle, read the upgrade link yet?23:20
apparlebazhang: ya23:20
Torchbazhang: what's wrong with itß23:20
Torchbazhang: what's wrong with it?23:20
FloodBotK2Torch: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.23:20
apparleit shows gui only method?23:20
bazhangTorch, its not supported nor recommended, so please dont recommend it here, thanks.23:20
Torchbazhang: again, what is wrong with it?23:21
Torchbazhang: do you understand what it does?23:21
bazhangTorch, of course. lets move on please23:21
apparlebazhang any ideas for me23:21
Torchapparle: just use apt-get and be done with it.23:21
apparleTorch: ohhh come on.. don't be stubborn, let me see the recommended method23:22
Torchapparle: i have no idea what (k)ubuntu recommend23:22
Torchapparle: it's how debian-based distributions are being updated.23:22
apparlebazhang: ?23:22
viliny_Hello!23:23
viliny_i have some questions - be it kde or gnome - is there any way to reduce the size of the header of windowses - the part that shows window name and buttons? running on a netbook here and i could use the screen space23:24
bazhanghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades#Network%20Upgrade%20for%20Kubuntu%20Desktops%20%28Recommended%29  apparle23:24
viliny_also, is there a way to pretend use a largers resolution running above what the netbook supports natively with some screen compression?23:25
apparlebazhang: it sends me here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades/Kubuntu which doesn't suggest any non gui method23:26
apparleviliny_: are you aware of the netbook edition?23:27
viliny_yes i am23:27
viliny_in fact i have that installed23:27
viliny_but this is a question that i also had from using my desktops and laptop - unnecessarily large borders23:27
apparle:P I don't know anything else..... never used a netbook myself23:27
apparleviliny_: I also have noticed that in case of KDE,23:28
apparleviliny_: but it is the way it looks so, I don't think it can be changed23:28
viliny_aww23:29
apparleviliny_: but don't take my word because I have not made it :P Maybe you can find a theme with slimer border etc23:30
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apparleviliny_: have you tried meego23:38
apparleviliny_: not exactly ready for primetime but seems good from screen shots23:38
viliny_my phone has maemo :)23:39
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