=== muzer is now known as MuzerAway [00:44] hello === radar is now known as radar225 [00:45] hi radar225 [00:45] I found out my VNC problem but still no fix to be found yet [00:45] does anyone know how to get your ScreenSaver to disable when VNC is being used? [00:47] only while VNC is in use? [00:47] problem = on remote desktop the screensaver instantly activates unless I move the mouse constantly === root is now known as Guest33849 [00:48] also VNC over Iphone is near imposible like that [00:48] radar225: what if you disable screensaver? [00:48] with screensaver off it works fine [00:49] ohhh at first i didnt have screensaver installed untill i just got hom [00:49] so it was black screen I will let it time in and then try it === root is now known as Guest61154 === wolf is now known as Guest71973 [02:13] Riddell: You are a bastard :) [02:13] Riddell: "I know this may be controvertial with some parts of the community but we can have unity in our new desktop" Nice wording :) === root is now known as Guest39979 [03:27] olá [04:56] any advice on getting bluetooth working on my system? [05:06] davesnothere1: what version are you running? [05:07] 10.10 [05:08] Daskreech: 10.10 [05:11] davesnothere1: ok KDE 4.5.2 then? [05:14] Daskreech: new to Linux. How do I find that? [05:15] disregard. [05:15] KDE 4.5.1 [05:15] davesnothere1: help -> about KDE in any app [05:15] davesnothere1: Welcome to Linux and KDE by the way :) [05:15] thanks [05:15] It's been very fun so far. [05:15] just trying to get this Dell laptop working. [05:17] Ok I think that you may need Bluedevil [05:18] that, and libbluedevil1 are already installed. [05:24] hmm ok [05:24] Never tried BT so lets see if we can figure this out [05:24] The OS isn't even recognizing that I have BT on this box. [05:24] davesnothere1: what happens when you type bluetooth:/ in krunner? [05:24] I'll check....never used krunner [05:24] oh that might be a deeper problem [05:25] alt+f2 [05:25] you should get a little dropdown box [05:25] type bluetooth:/ there [05:26] I get BlueDevil, then Adapters, then Devices, then File Transfer, but if I run anything I see no configurable or available adapters. [05:29] and if I finish typing what you said.....Activity [05:29] ok [05:29] hmm [05:29] activity.... [05:29] ok [05:29] What's under devices ? [05:30] No adapters found [05:34] hello [05:36] why is it that everyone just fucking lurks in irc? [05:38] !language | Erisianmonk23 [05:38] Erisianmonk23: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [05:38] sorry [05:38] just expect people to be chatting in a chat room I guess [05:39] davesnothere1: Might need drivers then [05:39] anywho I am having difficuly connecting my lucid box to the interwebs [05:39] Erisianmonk23: how does it connect? [05:39] wireless [05:40] It was easy before, just autodetected after I set the wep and off to the races [05:40] what kind of wireless adapter Erisianmonk23? [05:40] card [05:40] I couldn' [05:40] t [05:41] tell you the make and model off the top of my head [05:42] and I'm pretty new to linux so that doesn't help matters [05:45] are you on the linux box now? [05:45] no [05:45] do you have access to it now? [05:45] sitting right next to me [05:46] go into Terminal and type lspci [05:46] what kind of network controller do you have? [05:48] RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI [05:51] I'm new to linux but if you had the same network card as I do I might have been able to help [05:52] what version of Kubuntu are you using? === dragu is now known as demo123 [05:59] I am using Kubuntu 10.04 and the GUI is all different from the ref material [06:09] hello hello [06:09] echo echo [06:10] Erisianmonk23: good morning, what is really your probem? [06:11] hey Daskreech still awake or get up early? === root is now known as Guest43681 [08:00] Anyone online that can help me? [08:03] Trying to get the Cricket USB modem (Cal-comp a600) to work with Kubuntu 10.04. But the guide I'm following isn't quite getting a connection to the internet. It get's it to show the signal bars though. Which is more than I got before. [08:03] Anyone help? [08:05] Anyone know how to install a Cricket A600 modem? [09:44] hmm my cpu usage seems to be spiking abnormally but it doesn't show so in the processes table [09:44] i think it's Xorg [09:45] that seems to be taxing the CPU every so often but only shows like 5-10% [09:45] the CPU table in System Load is spiking some cores to 100% sometimes [09:45] my machine completely bogs down, im not sure if it's compositing, but i would have thought my machine was powerful enough, it's a i7 930 with 6GB of ram and a GeForce 470 GTX [09:46] running off a OCZ Vertex 2 SSD [09:47] Kalidarn: tried with different vid card drivers? [09:47] i'm using the proprietary ones [09:47] maybe that' sthe issue. [09:47] could be... [09:48] ill try suspending desktop effects [09:48] and see if it levels out [09:49] is it normal for Xorg to say tax CPU 3% then 0 [09:49] then say 5% then 0 [09:49] seems to be just pulsing the CPU [09:49] on and off [09:49] hi all, since my upgrade to 10.10 i have serious window focus problems. often all of a sudden I cannot close windows anymore. It looks as if the events are not sent to the window in focus. Keyboard access is the only thing left (besides a restart of the desktop) [09:49] Any ideas ? === Kalidarn is now known as zz_Kalidarn === zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn [09:53] where can i find the Kubuntu widgets?The link in the pennal didn't work. [09:57] http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8837/cpuusage.png to me CPU usage like that does not seem normal [09:58] http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/5372/processtable.png yet the processes table doesn't really reveal any culprits [09:59] http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/4250/cpuusage2.png it did calm down though when i logged out and logged back in [10:17] hello is this the chat room for ubuntu users? [10:18] its the #kubuntu channel [10:18] #ubuntu for support questions and #ubuntu-offtopic for chatter [10:18] this, #kubuntu channel, is for kubuntu support generally (: [10:19] ok this is the channel that is stated in the ubuntu site [10:19] anyway can i ask questions here regarding my problem with my update manager? === Kalidarn is now known as zz_Kalidarn === MuzerAway is now known as muzer === zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn [10:23] yeah my load average is all over the place [10:23] for some strange reason === Kalidarn is now known as zz_Kalidarn === nexus is now known as Guest56894 === zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn === Kalidarn is now known as zz_Kalidarn [10:55] any bug or stability issued on kubuntu 10.10? [10:56] *issue i mean [10:58] hellnest: not that I know [11:00] Only problem I encountered is pulse audio with 5.1 sound [11:00] Only mutes front speakers when head phone pluged in... rest was smooth sailing [11:14] hello [11:14] Hello [11:16] how can i switch from openoffice to office in kde? not remember how it called [11:17] sa_: It's called Koffice. Just go to sypnatics package manager ( if it's installed ) and remove your open office and then install Koffice [11:18] thanks i'll try it now [11:19] sa_: ok will waiting your report soon ^^ [11:19] Oh [11:20] was thinking libreoffice.... [11:20] was about to post http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.0-beta2/deb/ link :) [11:21] lol.... :P he said regarding Office from KDE... Libre is open office fork... also there's another alternate from IBM " Symphony" [11:21] I hear a rumor *unutu will go libreoffice in 11.04 [11:22] Hope its true [11:24] yeah they will move to libreoffice for the next release :) [11:24] * hellnest is away: Doin some stuff [11:41] hey [11:41] im having a few problems with kde [11:42] it seems as though kde crashed and restarted and now i am not able to enable desktop effects [11:42] has anyone else had this problem? [11:42] nope..fx card? [11:42] its an ati card [11:43] i dont think it is an issue with the card itself though [11:43] noted [11:44] cause games play ok [11:44] but my windows manager really skrewed up [11:44] really now good [11:45] tried moving .kde and relog to see if it works? [11:45] ? [11:46] ehats that? [11:46] i installed it through my ubuntu system [11:46] so that i could test it out and ubuntu is working perfectly as well [11:47] just wanted the choice between multiple destops and was told the new kde was amazing [11:47] aaah and the plot thikens [11:47] lol [11:47] what exactly did you install? [11:48] well i installed the base kde packages then the kubuntu packages [11:48] Hope you installed Kubuntu plasma desktop system [11:48] In software manager in Ubuntu [11:48] yeah i have that installed [11:49] you should have selected Kubuntu-desktop [11:49] yeah [11:49] K [11:49] well i installed through synaptic [11:49] should have been the same [11:49] yeah [11:51] Only thing I can think to test is to move /home/$username$/.kde folder to say kdeback and try relogging [11:51] im sure i have all the correct depencancies as i just let it get on with installing the whole of a standard kde system [11:51] just renaming that folder? [11:52] yep [11:52] so KDE will create a new one [11:52] Might be that something went loopy [11:53] im gussing i will just need to reboot after that then? [11:53] just log out and back in [11:53] ok [11:53] thanks [11:53] ill give it a shot [12:17] hi all, someone may tell me why with a vodafone key I can connect my ubuntu 10.10 in a moment and with kubuntu 10.10 it won't work ??? [12:19] I've read about a software of betavine to install, but if i've not another connection to download that software I can use the only as dart === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:09] hi everybody, I have a issue with kubunut 10.10 and intel video whandering if anybody can help [13:10] there is massive screen coruption when using any application [13:38] Hiyas === rgreening_ is now known as rgreening [14:46] hi [14:47] how do I find a window's process ID? I have a blank rectangle in the middle of my screen. I did 'xwininfo' to try and find information about it and found out it's Chromium, but xwininfo does not give me its pid.. [14:50] EvilRoey, try applications/system monitor , you can stop or kill the process there too [14:56] BluesKaj: see I don't know which chromium process it is, and I only have one multi-tabbed window open. [14:56] BluesKaj: thanks though [14:56] this is so stupid... xwininfo needs to show pid too [15:02] EvilRoey: try pidof Chromium the first opened will have the lowest number [15:02] ah cool thanks [15:03] moetunes: In the end, I closed it after evaluating all the tabs [15:03] heh :] [15:03] moetunes: can pidof return multiple values for multiple processes sharing the same name? [15:04] it should [15:04] moetunes: also, is the 'moe' in your nickname from japanese animation [15:04] EvilRoey: no more like mo' tunes [15:04] ohhhh got it [15:04] cool === zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn [15:07] thats disappointing..I thought it was like moet...like the champagne and unes....like unez [15:08] * node808 puts on his ghetto thinking cap [15:08] oh now it makes sense === Malkavian is now known as Malkavian_ === Kalidarn is now known as zz_Kalidarn === zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn === Freejack is now known as Freejack` === ubuntu is now known as kakou [16:19] hello everyone === EagleScreen is now known as EagleScreen_ === maria_ is now known as emmita [16:52] hi everyone [16:53] i want to install kubuntu via the sudo get-apt command in ubuntu 10.10 [16:53] however it says package not found [16:53] help [16:53] thanks :) [16:53] hi, I'm looking for a way to run a X11 program (vmplayer in this case) on a remote machine, without forwarding the X11 part. sort of as a service for a program that can not be started headless. and it should continue after connection loss of ssh [16:54] is this possible? unset DISPLAY will not let the program start afterwards [16:54] gaddd: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [16:55] thanks a lot EagleScreen_ :) [16:58] nobody has any suggestions? :-) [17:08] hi, i use twitter with the microblogging plasma widget, but when i clicked on a link, it opens with scribes text editor? ican't find configuration about it === zarkone_ is now known as zarkone === Y0Y0 is now known as yoyo [17:50] it works thanks to all === akssps011_ is now known as akssps011 [17:55] Hi all [17:56] I have a little problem with Kubuntu, the buttons that control backlights don't works (theys works fine under Ubuntu/Gnome) [17:56] When I use them, the backlight control appear on the screen, but I can't change it [18:03] I should turn off joins and parts for this window [18:03] otherwise I never see the topic [18:04] oh no.. last time I tried this on quassel I think it bogged the system down too much [18:06] wow, most of them were disconnects [18:06] the internet still has a long way to go === demo123_ is now known as demo123 [18:42] Petite question, vous avez le temps avant décharge sur l'applet de batterie vous ? [18:43] !fr | kedare [18:43] kedare: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [18:43] ubottu: oups sorry [18:44] Tm_T: sorry, bad tab ;) [18:55] hi, I just installed kubuntu on a HP 4520s, and I'm having trouble with the touchpad. It is supposed to support multitouch, but 2/3-finger taps and 2-finger scroll don't work [18:55] I've turned them on in system settings, of course [18:56] can anyone help? [18:57] have you done your homework? [18:57] is there anyone that has developed multitouch in linux? [18:57] sounds kinda newwave [18:58] most proprietary devices have to be reverse engineered to get them to work in linux [18:58] urgen: two-finger scroll worked on a much older laptop, which didn't even claim to have multitouch [18:58] hmn [18:59] what's the difference between kde-config-touchpad(which is installed by default) and kde-config-synaptiks? it seems they can't be installed at the same time [18:59] meaning when I try to install one, the other is marked for deletion [19:04] hello, how to draw a freehand line in kword on kubuntu 10.10 amd64? If I press a straight line will shown (and if If I release the stylus (a.e. mouse, tablet) there is nothing - I think because the color settings) [19:04] but even with the right color settings I have to enter some points with the mouse/stylus then I see something, but I want draw freehand while pressing mouse/stylus [19:05] what went wrong? thanks [19:05] user download openoffice [19:06] spirov92, is the touchpad on the hp4520 made by synaptics? [19:07] wait, I'll check [19:07] urgen: seems so. [19:09] http://www.linlap.com/wiki/hp+probook+4520s [19:11] hmn does your model have ATI graphics? [19:12] urgen: can't find anything about the touchpad [19:12] ya [19:12] and yeah, it has a "ati radeon" sticker [19:12] so branch to other models of laptops that may have the same hardware [19:15] * KillJoy is away: Per ora assente [19:16] !away > KillJoy [19:16] KillJoy, please see my private message [19:19] so.. it's looking like you would want to find a way to get in touch with developers in charge of that section of kubuntu and see if they haven't already scheduled attention on your concern. If not submit a request [19:19] if they have it may show up in a month or three or so [19:19] hmm, switched to the synaptiks package, it says my touchpad can only detect one finger... === mren|off is now known as mren === mren is now known as mren|off === mren|off is now known as mren [19:35] * KillJoy is back. === volodya_ is now known as volodya [20:49] test === jupaukowski is now known as BluesGirl [20:54] ok, now we're rockin' . I swapped the graphics cards on the linux machines .Altho the 8400gs has a lower fps on the 42" tv it's still enough , 100fps at full res full scrn vs 300 fps with the 7600gt on the 22" monitor full res full scrn using glxgears. [21:04] anyway, naptime [21:12] anyone seen hawkwind lately? [21:32] Themes downloaded for Login screen are not reflecting in the Themes slection tab. What's wrong? [21:32] System Settings Version 1.0 Using KDE Development Platform 4.5.1 (KDE 4.5.1) === jaideep is now known as jdk2588 [21:49] sup channel I cant find power settings for monitor [21:50] so insted of screensaver it powers off monitor [21:59] westmi: system settings -> power management [22:02] sorry to be a bother, I've googled and come up empty handed [22:03] I've just installed 10.10, and I'm looking for the option that lets you define accations for the corners of the screen [22:04] id est, put your mouse pointer in one corner, and see all open windows, put it in another and get the desktop cube .... [22:07] Hello, it says on Riddell's blog that Kubuntu is switching to Unity? Is this a joke or something? [22:08] unity? [22:08] Kalidarn: the new Ubuntu interface [22:08] hi [22:09] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Unity hmm [22:09] isnt that for netbooks [22:09] Kalidarn: the Kubuntu wiki seems to mirror the Ubuntu wiki with the Kubuntu theme... [22:09] oh lol. [22:09] Kalidarn: no, they are changing the desktop to it also... where have you been? :P [22:09] mmmmm [22:09] never mind, I just found it, it's under window behavoir [22:10] lunitik: please link i want to read about this [22:10] Riddell: you about? [22:10] kubuntu is changing to unity...... nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo [22:11] Kalidarn: http://voices.canonical.com/user/53/ [22:11] Apparently Kubuntu is going to be Unity+Plasma... although I don't understand how that will work at all [22:12] When VLC can't play a DVD that Kaffeine can play, is there anything I can do? Likewise for an m4v file that only VLC can play... [22:12] Unity basically only offers what Plasma does, so idgi [22:12] lunitik: are you sure for normal desktop they're going to do that [22:12] Kalidarn: yes, its all over every tech site related to Linux atm [22:13] damn it. I thought kubuntu was all about KDE as it is [22:13] i kinda like the menustrip actually being the window border [22:13] that's a cool idea [22:13] Anj: you have libdvdcss installed from the Ubuntu Multimedia repo? [22:13] yes [22:14] Anj: then they should both work fine [22:14] http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4125/5105537204_ee7e0c150a_b.jpg if that image is anything to go by [22:14] If kubuntu and ubuntu are alike, then what's the point? in keeping two distros? [22:14] lunitik, I have w32codecs, libdvdcss and everything. it's just that I need both kaffeine and VLC because neither one plays everything. :/ [22:14] apparle: perhaps that's the point... I mean, Zimmerman - head of tech for Canonical - just came out saying how he loves Qt... maybe they're coming together? [22:15] oh that would be nice if they did [22:15] maybe maybe not [22:15] i love Qt too :P [22:15] I always loved the fact that kubuntu was not for really dumb people. [22:15] can I download a kubuntu iso with all current updates inside? [22:15] lunitik: not really [22:16] (07:45:38) apparle: I always loved the fact that kubuntu was not for really dumb people. [22:16] if by that you mean KDE has had usability issues in the past [22:16] i hardly doubt that is the same thing [22:16] Kalidarn: no [22:16] Riddell: Care to explain how Kubuntu will be using Unity? I don't really understand and can find nothing on the subject via the wiki or internet [22:16] gnome changes were much more conservative [22:17] i don't consider myself a dumb person but I stopped using Kubuntu around 6.04 [22:17] * lunitik loves http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4vv7yFaqxw which is entirely Qt (heavily utilizing QML) [22:17] I meant that, kubuntu and KDE are for power users. There you have lots and lots of options and not just some default options and nothing else [22:17] doesn't maemo use Qt heaps? [22:18] i do like plasma folderview [22:18] Kalidarn: Maemo doesn't exist anymore... Maemo and Moblin merged into MeeGo, which that video shows off [22:18] guys don't drift, Qt is awesome but what is happening to kubuntu [22:18] ah [22:18] meego looks like macosx lion [22:18] apparle: if Riddell is too busy to elaborate, we can't really continue that discussion [22:19] Kalidarn: not really, but I can see why you might say that [22:19] if kubuntu and ubuntu have same desktop interfaces then lets just remove the K [22:19] :( [22:19] :'( [22:19] i doubt that it would be like that at all [22:19] lets hope [22:20] apparle: I'm sure it'll still utilize KDE apps [22:20] yeah [22:20] I suppose maybe in 2-3 years ubuntu will shift to gnome [22:20] it should rather [22:20] lol what are you going on about [22:20] lunitik: it won't, we use KDE [22:20] ubuntu is already gnome [22:20] apparle: Ubuntu is shifting away from Gnome it seems [22:21] sorry [22:21] I wanted to say kde [22:21] :P [22:21] kde has become more stable and is really set up nicely ;) [22:21] more stability and it will be awesome [22:21] Riddell: Then how come your blog says you're dropping KDE and using Unity? [22:21] because to be honest im not impressed by gnome 3 [22:21] i think it includes a bunch of wank [22:22] Riddell: just a pun based on how Plasma is actually what people believe KDE is? [22:22] I was happy that by KDE 4.5 kubuntu will be awesomely stable, but now comes unity [22:22] i like kickoff way more than i like their menu [22:22] lunitik: it says the branding changed from KDE Desktop to Plasma Workspace (made by KDE) [22:23] actually ive wondered why the kickoff menu still has a KDE icon and not a kubuntu one actually [22:23] even if unity is superawesome then also it will not be stable, so again we have to suffer instability like in intrepid [22:23] Riddell: ahh, you scared me when I first read your blog... lol [22:23] Kalidarn: I read an article somwhere on it [22:23] they changed the gnome foot to an ubunu logo [22:24] that said i like the K gear [22:24] it is cool [22:24] it would make a good tatoo [22:24] *tattoo [22:25] now i should figure out why kdelibs won't compile on my mac :P === islington is now known as Islington === mren is now known as mren|off [22:31] Riddell: I seriously suggest you change the wordings in your blog..... you scared me...... [22:32] apparle: well it's ment to do that on first reading but become clear on second reading, maybe not everyone does that second reading [22:32] Riddell: :) [22:41] can I ecryptf-umount my home partition from live kubuntu? [22:42] * Torch is reminded of "no more desktop icons" [23:00] hey, to write scripts for konversation i need to use dcop, but the python-dcop package doesnt seem to exist, any sugestions? [23:01] lieuwe: kde4? [23:02] Torch: eh, dunno :P, probably [23:03] Torch: no idea how to interface with konversation without dcop... [23:03] i think your supposed to use dbus now [23:03] lieuwe: kde4 does not use dcop anymore [23:03] lieuwe: use dbus. [23:03] Torch: ooohkey [23:03] lieuwe: google helps ;-) [23:03] ... [23:03] lieuwe: qdbus shows you what an app can do. [23:04] http://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-faq.html#dcop [23:06] Torch: next problem, wtf is the well known name for konversation? cant find it on google [23:10] lieuwe: konversation is konversation. [23:10] okay [23:10] :-3 [23:10] lieuwe: i don't see why you're asking that. use qdbus to query konversation what it offers via dbus [23:10] lieuwe: there's also #konversation [23:12] Torch: #konversation is pretty much dead, qdbus gives me an error [23:12] lieuwe: #konversation definitely is not dead [23:12] lieuwe: it might be quiet right now. show some patience. [23:12] lieuwe: what's the error you're getting? [23:13] Torch: http://pastebin.com/rSj0REQh [23:14] how to update from lucid to maverick from command line? [23:14] lieuwe: this is from just plain calling qdbus on a shell prompt without args? [23:14] no, i was being silly, got it :-3 [23:15] !update [23:15] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - To upgrade to Karmic (9.10) directly from Hardy (8.04) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KarmicUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04 - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading [23:16] !upgrade [23:16] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - To upgrade to Karmic (9.10) directly from Hardy (8.04) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KarmicUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04 - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading [23:17] Isn't there any command line way to do upgrade? [23:17] apparle: there is. edit /etc/apt/sources.list and do apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade [23:18] Torch: that's it? is that what an update does? just the list and then pkg update? [23:18] apparle: yes. [23:18] apparle: this is debian ;-) [23:19] that is simple [23:19] I mean if packages install well :P [23:19] Torch, apparle thats not the recommended nor supported method [23:19] bazhang: what is recommended then? [23:19] apparle, you running a server? [23:19] no [23:20] bazhang: but I hate kpackagekit [23:20] apparle, read the upgrade link yet? [23:20] bazhang: ya [23:20] bazhang: what's wrong with itß [23:20] bazhang: what's wrong with it? [23:20] Torch: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [23:20] it shows gui only method? [23:20] Torch, its not supported nor recommended, so please dont recommend it here, thanks. [23:21]