[00:55] <stlsaint> phillw, hey
[00:56] <phillw> hiyas stlsaint
[00:56]  * stlsaint on lubuntu!! W00T!
[00:58] <johnny77> Where would I upload a screenshot to get a link to post here?
[00:59] <phillw> !screenshot
[01:01]  * phillw loves the bots 3>
[01:06] <johnny77> When I click on File Manager on the task bar, I get this error. http://imagebin.org/120733
[01:06] <stlsaint> gotta love bots
[01:09] <phillw> johnny77: i'm sorry I've never seen anything like that, would you file a bug report for it?
[01:10] <johnny77> phillw: That's never good news. Sure, how do I file a bug report?
[01:10] <johnny77> phillw: If I click ok, it goes on and acts like nothing happened.
[01:20] <phillw> johnny77: do you have a launchpad account ?
[01:20] <johnny77> phillw: yeah, I think I do.
[01:21] <phillw> johnny77: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved
[01:22] <phillw> you can send it to the mailing list as it does seem rather odd.
[01:36] <johnny77> phillw: Bug report filed.
[01:37] <phillw> thanks johnny77, it's only when people take the time to report bugs that the devs can have a look into them, I'm sorry I do not have an instant answer for you :(
[01:38] <johnny77> phillw: it's ok. I've messed around with my system quite a bit since I installed Ubuntu a couple weeks ago. It's probably my fault.
[01:40] <phillw> you may want to try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Install%20Lubuntu%20from%20Ubuntu%20or%20any%20Ubuntu%20flavors
[01:40] <phillw> that will make it pure lubuntu
[01:42] <johnny77> phillw: Right now all I have is gnome and Lubuntu. Not sure if I want to get rid of gnome quite yet.
[01:43] <phillw> johnny77: that may be the conflict. But, as I said I've never seen that error before, so am only giving my best guestimate as to what it is.
[01:44] <johnny77> phillw: I understand.
[01:49] <phillw> johnny77: the invite is for our off-topic area; it is quite safe to accept it :)
[02:38] <martinriggs> Boa noite
[02:38] <martinriggs> acabei de tirar o Ubuntu e colocar o Lubuntu, então entrei aqui para conhecer mais
[02:39] <phillw> martinriggs: I only know english
[02:39] <martinriggs> ohh, i'm sorry
[02:41] <martinriggs> Ok, my english is bad, but i try
[02:42] <martinriggs> how to remove the games standards Lubuntu
[02:46] <phillw> martinriggs: I am just checking to see if I can find a spanish speaker for you
[02:46] <phillw> martinriggs: Estou verificando somente para ver se posso encontrar um falante espanhol para você
[02:46] <martinriggs> ok
[02:53] <phillw> No puedo encontrar un altavoz español. ¿Cuál es el problema con los juegos?
[02:54] <martinriggs> not use, I want to uninstall
[02:58] <phillw> martinriggs: ¿Bien echaré un vistazo a en que paquete ellos están, pero esto es una pequeña cantidad del espacio, por qué piensa usted que causa un problema?
[02:59] <martinriggs> no
[02:59] <phillw> martinriggs: then why remove?
[03:00] <martinriggs> estetica
[03:00] <phillw> stlsaint: what does that mean ?
[03:01] <stlsaint> no clue, i dont know spanish
[03:01] <phillw> aesthetics
[03:02] <phillw> martinriggs: are you spanish or italain ?
[03:03] <martinriggs> Brazillian
[03:04] <phillw> martinriggs: brazillian or portugees the best language?
[03:04] <martinriggs> Brazillian
[03:08] <phillw> martinriggs: I am very sorry but I cannot translate into brazillian, what is your second language
[03:08] <martinriggs> Wait
[03:10] <phillw> ¿Entiende usted el español?
[03:18] <phillw> martinriggs: I have to go to bed, come back tomorrow one of the people I know is from Brazil.
[03:19] <martinriggs> ok, good Night
[04:30] <stlsaint> HELP
[04:31] <stlsaint> HELP HELP HELP
[04:32] <stlsaint> (don't think for a second that i wont spam this room!)
[04:35] <slooksterpsv> stlsaint: whats wrong?
[04:38] <stlsaint> slooksterpsv: hey how do i add more desktops to my panel
[04:38] <slooksterpsv> ??? I don't know lol
[04:42] <stlsaint> phillw: HEY BOSS!!
[04:42] <stlsaint> bioterror: ping
[04:45] <stlsaint> slooksterpsv: tsk tsk
[04:45] <stlsaint> you have to know these things because i dont :P
[04:46] <slooksterpsv> stlsaint: got it
[04:46] <slooksterpsv> hehe :P
[04:46] <slooksterpsv> LXDE menu -> Preferences -> Openbox Configuration manager
[04:48] <stlsaint> slooksterpsv: thanks man you rock
[04:53] <benjr> ive got lubuntu installed and ive plugged in my pcmcia wireless card, im not sure howto scan for networks, or if the drivers are even insalled
[04:54] <slooksterpsv> benjr: in the bottom right hand corner do you see an icon that looks like radio waves but with an x on it?
[04:54] <benjr> um nope, i see one with 2 arrows though
[04:54] <slooksterpsv> click on that
[04:55] <slooksterpsv> do you see your wireless connection or any wireless networks?
[04:56] <benjr> it has a wired network option, thats "auto eth0"
[04:56] <benjr> nothing else
[04:56] <slooksterpsv> benjr: what kind of computer is it btw, and can you go to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ and paste the output of the following command in LXTerminal (found under LXDE Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal): lshw -c Network
[04:58] <slooksterpsv> benjr: also, go to LXDE Menu -> Preferences -> Additional Drivers and see if it lists anything there as well - sorry I know I'm asking you to do quite a bit
[04:59] <benjr> its ok i appreciate the help, i just had to run get a network cable for it so i can pastebin that, i didnt have it pluged in before incase it had some effect on the wireless
[05:01] <benjr> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/521843
[05:01] <slooksterpsv> benjr:  oh ok, yeah make sure its plugged in when doing those things lol
[05:02] <benjr> its a compaq evo n1020v, the wireless card is a netgear wg511
[05:02] <benjr> additional drivers is empty
[05:02] <slooksterpsv> benjr - ready for the next item? this is going to take a few moments, but it's rather simple
[05:02] <benjr> shoot
[05:03] <bioterror> stlsaint, hi
[05:03] <slooksterpsv> ok gimme a min. you say you think its a netgear wg511?
[05:04] <benjr> thats what the box says
[05:04] <stlsaint> slooksterpsv: why is this control center not available in repos??
[05:04] <slooksterpsv> benjr: is it v1 or v2?
[05:04] <slooksterpsv> stlsaint: dunno ask the Lubuntu devs
[05:04] <slooksterpsv> stlsaint: it does have it's own PPA though
[05:04] <stlsaint> slooksterpsv: where are they?
[05:04] <stlsaint> (the devs)
[05:04] <stlsaint> on launchpad?
[05:05] <bioterror> stlsaint, you got more workspaces?
[05:05] <slooksterpsv> https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa
[05:06] <slooksterpsv> benjr: can you remove the card temporarily?
[05:06] <benjr> slooksterpsv: more accurately its a wg511ge, i cnat tell if its v1 or v2 sorry
[05:06] <slooksterpsv> wg511ge - perfect
[05:06] <benjr> yep its out
[05:07] <stlsaint> bioterror: yep
[05:07] <stlsaint> slooksterpsv: oh thanks i found it
[05:07] <stlsaint> installing lcc now
[05:07] <slooksterpsv> http://www.driverroot.com/root/405869.html
[05:08] <slooksterpsv> benjr:  download the drivers on that page for the wg511ge
[05:08] <slooksterpsv> benjr: nevermind
[05:08] <slooksterpsv> benjr: thats for driver detective - a program you have to pay for let mem try and find it, we need the driver file so we can use ndiswrapper to load a driver for you
[05:09] <benjr> sorry these are such amature questions, ive never actually used wireless, ever, so im not even sure what sort of thing im expecting to see in lubuntu
[05:09] <slooksterpsv> benjr: wireless can be simple, other times it may take a bit to get working
[05:09] <stlsaint> slooksterpsv: aye, niffty, like the control panel in windows :P
[05:11] <benjr> slooksterpsv: you can tell that my wireless card is working?
[05:11] <benjr> physically i mean
[05:12] <slooksterpsv> benjr - yeah lubuntu detected, it, here's what we're going to follow: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/TRENDnet_TEW-421PC_H/W:B1_(ndiswrapper)?highlight=(WifiDocs/Device)
[05:12] <benjr> im concerned becasue i bought it off an online store ive nevre used before, it turned up in the box, loose, with ripped packaging and scratched connectors, obviously a returned product, i wont be using them again
[05:12] <slooksterpsv> benjr, sort of follow
[05:13] <slooksterpsv> open up lxterminal and run the following commands ok?
[05:13] <benjr> alright
[05:13] <benjr> plug it in first?
[05:16] <slooksterpsv> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 cabextract unshield unzip &&  wget -c http://downloads.trendnet.com/TEW-421PC_b1%5CDriver%5CUtility_Driver_TEW-421PC_423PI_b1_2.00.zip && mkdir TEW && mv TEW-421PC_423PI_b1_2.00.zip TEW && cd TEW && unzip TEW-421PC_423PI_b1_2.00.zip && cd Drivers/Windows\ XP/ && sudo ndiswrapper -i Mrv8000c.INF
[05:16] <slooksterpsv> benjr: yes
[05:17] <slooksterpsv> after that gets done running haha let me know, I basically made that command do 80% of the work for you
[05:18] <benjr> gimmie a sec, typing it out (im on irc on a diff pc)
[05:18] <slooksterpsv> benjr: email it to yourself lol
[05:18] <slooksterpsv> benjr:  or you could do it my faveorite way and ssh into the machine hehe but you'd have to install openssh-server - remote administration is so fun :D
[05:19] <benjr> i pastebinned it :p
[05:20] <slooksterpsv> benjr:  i was just running back to say why don't we pastebin it
[05:21] <benjr> mv: cannont stat 'TEW-421...: no such file or directory
[05:22] <benjr> oh wait i think i can solve this
[05:22] <slooksterpsv> aww thats why, start from here then: mv TEW-421PC_b1\Driver\Utility_Driver_TEW-421PC_423PI_b1_2.00.zip TEW && cd TEW && unzip TEW-421PC_423PI_b1_2.00.zip && cd Drivers/Windows\ XP/ && sudo ndiswrapper -i Mrv8000c.INF
[05:23] <slooksterpsv> the full file was named TEW-421PC_b1\\Driver\\Utility_Driver... oops change the single \ to double \\ - I'm so sorry about that
[05:29] <slooksterpsv> benjr: and???
[05:29] <benjr> something happened there and i ened up with ~/TEW/TEW.zip so it didnt extract
[05:29] <benjr> just figure that out, doiung next part
[05:30] <slooksterpsv> oh yeah the filename for the unzip should be: unzip TEW-421PC_b1\\Driver\\Utility_Driver_TEW-421PC_423PI_b1_2.00.zip
[05:31] <slooksterpsv> sorry it's my fault I should have made sure the filename was correct first, that's why we got stuck here
[05:31] <benjr> i thought id worked it out on my own, but i didnt have dpouble backslahes
[05:32] <slooksterpsv> benjr: again my mistake lol sorry :(
[05:32] <benjr> oh well its done now, said installing mrv...
[05:32] <slooksterpsv> type in: ndiswrapper -l
[05:32] <benjr> i didnt know you could use windows drivers in linux
[05:32] <slooksterpsv> yup... technically there's an easier way too haha
[05:33] <benjr> driver installed, device present
[05:33] <slooksterpsv> hmm its not on any of my systems, but there's a link that says install windows drivers it's an application that does all this for us; ok now I want you to do the following in the command prompt still:
[05:33] <slooksterpsv> ls /etc/ndiswrapper  -make sure it says mrv8000c there
[05:33] <slooksterpsv> then run: sudo depmod -a && sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:34] <benjr> sure does
[05:35] <benjr> didnt return anything, no results, no errors
[05:35] <slooksterpsv> benjr: good =D, click on the two arrows icon and see if it shows wireless networks
[05:35] <benjr> oh the wireless card has a flashing liught now
[05:35] <benjr> awesome!
[05:36] <slooksterpsv> benjr:  now run: sudo ndiswrapper -m
[05:36] <slooksterpsv> benjr:  reboot make sure the driver sticks and it works
[05:36] <benjr> alright
[05:37] <benjr> while its rebooting, very different question
[05:37] <benjr> lubuntu came with chrome, my personal preference is opera, i knwo linux has dependancies and stuff, how cna i tell hiw much of an overhead adding opera to the system will be?
[05:38] <benjr> since it will probably need some librarys and stuff
[05:38] <slooksterpsv> benjr: its a deb, it'll do everything for you
[05:39] <benjr> im not so concerned abotu the install, jsut about how much "stuff" itll add to my system besdies just opera
[05:39] <slooksterpsv> benjr:  not very much, and Linux, a typical install, is really low on memory usage
[05:39] <benjr> reboot is done, it didnt stick :(
[05:39] <slooksterpsv> benjr, I have ubuntu installed and tons of apps and my directories minus my home is about 5GB
[05:39] <benjr> i did the ndiswrapper -m too
[05:40] <slooksterpsv> benjr: k open a terminal and run: ndiswrapper -l
[05:40] <benjr> installed, present
[05:41] <slooksterpsv> now run: cat /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper
[05:41] <slooksterpsv> print the contents of that to here, otherwise if its more than 2 lines use pastebin
[05:41] <benjr> alias wlan0 ndiswrapper
[05:42] <slooksterpsv> benjr - so you can't see wireless networks still?
[05:42] <benjr> nope
[05:42] <slooksterpsv> ok run: sudo depmod -a && sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:42] <benjr> theres no light on the card either
[05:43] <benjr> thats got it
[05:43] <slooksterpsv> benjr: same thing? try: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[05:44] <benjr> the depmod/modprobe thing got it going
[05:44] <benjr> will i need to type that in after each reboot?
[05:45] <slooksterpsv> benjr: well lets see if we can get it working; reboot again, but instead of running the depmod and that, try running the following command: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[05:47] <benjr> that worked too
[05:47] <slooksterpsv> ok perfect!
[05:48] <slooksterpsv> benjr do this now, type in: gksudo leafpad /etc/network/interfaces
[05:48] <benjr> is that wlan0 up command like when someone flips the wireless swtich on their laptop?
[05:48] <slooksterpsv> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[05:48] <slooksterpsv> auto wlan0
[05:49] <slooksterpsv> paste those two items into that file we opened
[05:49] <slooksterpsv> benjr:  yeah its like the windows equivalent of right-click disable on Local Area Connection
[05:50] <benjr> done
[05:50] <slooksterpsv> benjr: after you paste those two lines, save and reboot
[05:50] <slooksterpsv> benjr:  now don't run any other commands just see if it works
[05:52] <benjr> its flashing away, but the system tray icon says "device not managed"
[05:53] <slooksterpsv> ok lets go remove those lines and just have it run: ifconfig wlan0 up
[05:53] <slooksterpsv> reboot and see if that works :)
[05:55] <benjr> done, and nothing this time
[05:55] <slooksterpsv> benjr dang... I'm not used to manual ndiswrapper driver install. trying to see what else we can try
[05:56] <slooksterpsv> ok go edit the /etc/network/interfaces - and remove that line we added
[05:56] <benjr> the the other lines you had "auto wlan0", i notice there is an "auto lan0" in the "edit connections" thing
[05:56] <benjr> should i creat auto wlan0 there?
[05:57] <slooksterpsv> go for it, never know that may work
[05:59] <slooksterpsv> benjr: can I have you pastebin the output of: cat /etc/modules.conf
[05:59] <aveilleux> I hear someone is having an issue with ndiswrapper
[06:00] <bioterror> ave <3
[06:00] <slooksterpsv> aveilleux: benjr is, we got the driver it works what not, but not allowing us to control the network until we run ifconfig wlan0 up or even depmod -a && modprobe ndiswrapper
[06:02] <benjr> slooksterpsv: my idea didnt work, just removed the chnages, cat of modules (besides commented code) is just "lp"
[06:02] <slooksterpsv> hmmm... should it contain more than lp aveilleux?
[06:03] <slooksterpsv> I have a feeling we need to add ndiswrapper to modules - gonna wait for aveilleux replies with the next step
[06:04] <benjr> alright
[06:04] <benjr> thanks for all your help by the way slooksterpsv, very thorough
[06:05] <slooksterpsv> benjr: trying to be except I missed the filenames part haha
[06:05] <benjr> net question is going to be (when its working) how come i cnat see every wireless network around, only 3 of them
[06:06] <benjr> i know from my router itself that there are 6 around
[06:06] <aveilleux> benjr: what command did you use to install the module, ndiswrapper -m ?
[06:07] <benjr> aveilleux: i did type that at one stage yea
[06:07] <aveilleux> benjr: With or without "sudo"?
[06:08] <benjr> i cant recall
[06:08] <benjr> shall i do it with sudo now?
[06:08] <aveilleux> benjr: It can't hurt
[06:09] <benjr> module configuration already contains alias directive
[06:09] <aveilleux> Hrm.
[06:11] <aveilleux> ah-hah
[06:12] <aveilleux> benjr: what network applet are you using?
[06:12] <slooksterpsv> aveilleux: could we add ifconfig wlan0 up to rc.local, think that may work?
[06:13] <benjr> networkmanager applet 0.8.1
[06:13] <aveilleux> slooksterpsv: Unneeded.
[06:13] <aveilleux> benjr: in Terminal, sudo nano /etc/modules
[06:13] <aveilleux> benjr: Add "ndiswrapper" (without the quotes) at the bottom of this file
[06:14] <aveilleux> benjr: CTRL-O to save (hit Enter), then CTRL-X to exit
[06:14] <aveilleux> benjr: That should work
[06:14] <slooksterpsv> if that works, I like my comment from above
[06:14] <benjr> reboot?
[06:14] <aveilleux> benjr: Note I mean /etc/modules, NOT /etc/modules.conf
[06:15] <slooksterpsv> -(11:03:43 PM) slooksterpsv: I have a feeling we need to add ndiswrapper to modules - gonna wait for aveilleux replies with the next step
[06:15] <slooksterpsv> -(11:04:10 PM) benjr: alright
[06:15] <bioterror> :D
[06:15] <slooksterpsv> bb in a few gotta read a book to  my niece
[06:16] <benjr> aveilleux: yeap was just modules, slooksterpsv gave me an instruction to put something in modules.conf earleir, but that didnt exist so i assuemd it was a typo and used modules
[06:17] <benjr> sorry to cat modules.conf, not put something in it
[06:19] <bioterror> you can check from terminal what you hace typed with pressing ctrl+r and few letters from the command
[06:19] <benjr> spelt ndiswrapper wrong the first time, did it again and its working now :)
[06:19] <bioterror> and with arrow up and down browse the search if i remember right atm
[06:21] <benjr> aveilleux: thats all good now, comes up on boot?
[06:21] <benjr> on boot :)
[06:21] <bioterror> nice
[06:21] <aveilleux> benjr: Yay
[06:22]  * aveilleux tips her hat and leaves
[06:22] <bioterror> :D
[06:22] <benjr> who was that?
[06:22] <benjr> came in just to sort that out for me
[06:23] <bioterror> one guy from ubt
[06:27] <benjr> well its working now except i cant see my own router, plus a couple of the neighbours
[06:27] <benjr> i can onyl see some of them
[07:29] <slooksterpsv> benjr: so its working =D
[07:30] <benjr> hey
[07:30] <benjr> yeha i it appears to be, appart fomr me not beng able to see my own wireless router, but thats prob a problem outside lubunut
[09:59] <[GuS]> GOod morning
[09:59] <[GuS]> :)
[10:01] <bioterror> hi
[10:31] <[GuS]> hi :)
[10:31] <jingjang> hey
[10:31] <[GuS]> is anybody there for a question about lubuntu-10.10.iso?
[10:32] <[GuS]> I'm trying to burn this ISO file into a USB by Universal USB Installer 1.8.0.8 version
[10:32] <[GuS]> but I get a problem during this operation
[10:32] <[GuS]> when it is extracting the files
[10:32] <jingjang> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ try this one,
[10:33] <jingjang> same problem with me, and i try unetbootin, it worked great
[10:34] <[GuS]> Okay, thank u
[10:34] <[GuS]> I will try :)
[10:34] <[GuS]> I'm also checking MD5 for this ISO file
[10:34] <[GuS]> maybe the download was corrupt
[10:48] <Jabbar> hey guys any body here?
[10:49] <jingjang> yep
[10:50] <Jabbar> you know if lg kp500 works with lubuntu?
[10:50] <jingjang> no, im not sure
[10:58] <Jabbar> guys you know any light weighted dock?
[12:29] <stlsaint> phillw: HELP
[12:29] <bioterror> can I help?
[12:29] <bioterror> or just phillw :(
[12:29] <stlsaint> NO! :P
[12:29] <stlsaint> bioterror: hehe, heck yea you can help
[12:29] <bioterror> oh, you need some SPECIAL help :)
[12:30] <stlsaint> bioterror: i know how to fix the issue but i want to see if this is just me or a lubuntu issue
[12:30] <bioterror> shoot
[12:30] <bioterror> and we'll see
[12:30] <stlsaint> bioterror: grub is not seeing my other OS that im trying to dual boot
[12:30] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install os-prober
[12:30] <bioterror> ;D
[12:30] <stlsaint> i run update-grub and it only sees the lubuntu install
[12:30] <bioterror> sudo os-prober
[12:30] <bioterror> sudo update-grub
[12:30] <stlsaint> orly? i never tried that
[12:31] <stlsaint> so install, probe then update?
[12:31] <bioterror> yeah, probe it like the aliens probed cartman! ;D
[12:31] <stlsaint> LOL
[12:31] <stlsaint> kk, one sec
[12:32] <stlsaint> bioterror: awesome dude i have been curious about that as ive had the issue a couple of times
[12:32] <stlsaint> bioterror: it worked your way :D
[12:33] <stlsaint> bioterror: i usually just boot to livecd and install fix grub that way
[12:33] <bioterror> yeah, simple solution
[12:33] <stlsaint> bioterror: thanks man you rock
[12:33] <bioterror> np
[12:33] <bioterror> now you can relax and listen this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0l_D580qnc
[12:33] <bioterror> as I do
[12:34] <stlsaint> lol monkeys
[12:34] <bioterror> awesome spacerock
[13:01]  * stlsaint is liking lubuntu W00T
[13:01] <bioterror> good
[13:02] <stlsaint> bioterror: well i liked it in the vm's i ran it in but its twice as fast on installed partition, i wasnt expecting those kind of results
[13:02] <bioterror> yeah, that's why I'm not so big fan of VM's
[13:03] <bioterror> you get the idea of the system, but not the real speed and boot times and stuff like that
[13:03] <stlsaint> bioterror: well i like vm's alot for testing/running OS's but im not too keen on installing to my drive
[13:04] <bioterror> I use laptops for that
[13:05] <bioterror> manual partitioning and I'm safe ;)
[13:07] <stlsaint> bioterror: aye, manual always
[13:07] <bioterror> depends
[13:07] <stlsaint> bioterror: and my desktop is broke so i have to use lappy for everything
[13:07] <bioterror> if I have one os, then I'l go for the automatic :D
[13:13] <bioterror> my irc client prompts weather stats to the statusbar from google
[15:15] <sgh> hey, do you know if there's a command to log out and another one to log in? I know how to reboot but this takes quite long and isn't necessary under Linux
[15:45] <szczur> lxsession-logout brings the logout menu
[15:46] <szczur> for example lxsession-logout --banner=/usr/share/lxde/images/logout-banner.png --side=top
[15:46] <szczur> creates same logout screen as is in the menu
[15:47] <sgh> okay thank you szczur
[17:09] <gos> Hi, when I use the laptop with the battery in 10.04.1 lxde Lubuntu sometimes to turn off the laptop I get stuck on the cover or splash of lubunt without being able to close, with the exception of removing the battery
[17:42] <_tOnY_UnGuS_> hi
[17:44] <_tOnY_UnGuS_> exist lubuntu for machine at 64 bit?
[18:27] <bioterror> hey
[18:27] <bioterror> guys
[18:28] <bioterror> why didnt you answer to tony
[18:28] <bioterror> we have 25 nicks idling and no one told him that he can use 64bit mini-.iso
[18:28] <bioterror> --
[18:28] <mark76> I wasn't here
[20:14] <Kurdistan> hey guys :)
[20:18] <slooksterpsv> hi Kurdistan
[20:31] <Kurdistan> Guys I want help: Last day, I installed lubuntu on my friends computer. I have to issue. One is that LG KP500 does not work under buntu. Or I have not fined any application.
[20:32] <Kurdistan> Secondly how can I install arabic keyboard, so he can write in arabic. Under installation I only choose swedish.
[20:33] <Kurdistan> two issue
[20:34] <phillw> Kurdistan: have you had try via https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/LanguageSupport ?
[20:35] <Kurdistan> phillw I did mark arabic and some packages did install/download
[20:40] <Kurdistan> phillw :) were are you?
[20:40] <phillw> Kurdistan: exactly here.
[20:42] <Kurdistan> :) any idea?
[20:42] <Kurdistan> I did try kurdish and arabic
[20:42] <Kurdistan> same here
[20:42] <Kurdistan> without any look
[20:44] <phillw> gilir: have you any ideas or should I file it as bug ?
[20:44] <Kurdistan> any light docky that works good with lubuntu?
[20:45] <bioterror> wbar?
[20:45] <phillw> Kurdistan: lets get the keyboard / language problem sorted first, "eye-candy" can be added later.
[20:45] <gilir> phillw: well, we have no way to specify different layout of keyboard :(
[20:46] <gilir> even lxkeymap I think doesn't manage it well
[20:46] <Kurdistan> :) phillw you are right
[20:46] <Kurdistan> gilir he has only 432 mb ram
[20:46] <Kurdistan> do you think it will work better under ubuntu?
[20:46] <gilir> and for dock, I just try awn with only C-core applets, it's pretty cool :)
[20:46] <mark76> Have you tried Adeskbar?
[20:47] <Kurdistan> adeskbar? cool, I will take a look. my friend likes :) eye candy. I explained to him that his computer is not the veery best or the newest.
[20:47] <phillw> gilir: there is a command from terminal that will do it, but for life of me I cannot recall it.
[20:47] <gilir> Kurdistan: ubuntu have a good support for keyboard, but maybe 432 Mo is a bit just for a day-to-day usage
[20:48] <Kurdistan> gilir so he can have it? if I replace heavy appz with light
[20:48] <mark76> http://www.ad-comp.be/public/deb/archives/adeskbar.0.4.2-all.deb
[20:49] <mark76> It's a work in progress. But it's decent
[20:49] <gilir> phillw: setxkbmap
[20:49] <phillw> gilir: would that allow him to set up the arabic keyboard manaully?
[20:50] <gilir> Kurdistan: yes, but we have to customize it yourself, in lubuntu we have it by default :)
[20:50] <Kurdistan> cool, I think I solved something. will ask my friend if the importance is to write arabic when i search for stuff in chrome
[20:50] <bioterror> for a dock I would use wmaker ;)
[20:50] <bioterror> but that's me
[20:50] <bioterror> :-----)
[20:51] <mark76> Wouldn't wmaker's 64x64 icons be a bit big for a phone?
[20:51] <gilir> phillw: probably
[20:51] <bioterror> mark76, you can make it smaller ;)
[20:51] <Kurdistan> :( it was only spell-checker
[20:53] <Kurdistan> other then that he is really happy with linux/buntu
[20:53] <Kurdistan> and does not understand how it can be for free
[20:54] <Kurdistan> and better then windows and why it is not well known
[20:55] <Kurdistan> gilir so you think he can use ubuntu without any problems?
[20:55] <gilir> Kurdistan: is lubuntu already installed ? what version do you have ?
[20:56] <Kurdistan> mark I installed adeskbar but can not fined it
[20:56] <Kurdistan> gilir I installed lubuntu 10.04
[20:56] <Kurdistan> becuase I had it on my usb :)
[20:57] <gilir> because with 10.10, we have an option to change keyboard layout, no by default
[20:58] <Kurdistan> gilir so you think he will have better luck with 10.10?
[20:58] <gilir> if the only thing which block you is the keyboard layout ...
[20:58] <Kurdistan> gilir :) it is my friends not me
[20:58] <Kurdistan> I tried to install arabic/kurdish on my lubuntu 10.04 with same result
[21:01] <gilir> I confirm, I using 10.10, and I just switch to arabic keyboard using lxkeymap :p
[21:01] <Kurdistan> gilir :) nice
[21:01] <gilir> let me search a bit more, I'm sure we have a deb for 10.04
[21:02] <Kurdistan> I will install 10.10 on his laptop
[21:02] <Kurdistan> :P that will help alot
[21:02] <Kurdistan> less time
[21:03] <Kurdistan> gilir when I tried lubuntu 10.10 I didnt fined lubuntu-ppa
[21:04] <Kurdistan> how come? have it been fixed?
[21:04] <mark76> Yeah, it seems to have vanished from mine as well
[21:04] <mark76> But I can still run it from the CLI
[21:04] <Kurdistan> CLI?
[21:05] <mark76> Have you got Lubuntu menu?
[21:05] <gilir> Kurdistan: http://zevenos.com/files/lxkeymap_0.2_all.deb
[21:05] <mark76> Or LXDE menu, rather
[21:05] <gilir> Kurdistan: no, it's normal, Lubuntu PPA is only needed if you want extras packages
[21:06] <gilir> like lxkeymap :) or the lubuntu-control-center
[21:06] <Kurdistan> gilir I see :)
[21:07] <bioterror> gilir, when is that lcc going to be added to lubuntu?
[21:07] <mark76> I have Lubuntu control centre
[21:07] <bioterror> afaik it's only in the ppa
[21:07] <bioterror> people are really yelling for the "xfce like settings panel"
[21:07] <gilir> bioterror: like other application by default, need to be discuss first
[21:07] <mark76> LXDE becomes more Xfe like every day
[21:07] <mark76> Xfce
[21:07] <mark76> Xfe is something else
[21:08] <Kurdistan> gilir you are human angle
[21:08] <gilir> bioterror: IMO, it needs some work to be ready, but not much
[21:08] <Kurdistan> I will help him with lxkeymap
[21:08] <gilir> angle ?
[21:08] <gilir> :)
[21:08] <bioterror> gilir, good to hear ;)
[21:09] <Kurdistan> mark76, xfce has good things to, but lxde is I think almost 30 % lighter
[21:09] <Kurdistan> gilir okey devil
[21:09] <Kurdistan> mark how did you manage to use adeskbar?
[21:09] <mark76> Click on the Run option in the LXpanel menu and then type adeskbar into the little box
[21:10] <Kurdistan> gilir do you know any appz that can work with my friends LG KP500? so he can sync (download stuff from computer to mobile phone)?
[21:10] <Kurdistan> nice
[21:10] <Kurdistan> :P
[21:10] <Kurdistan> really nice
[21:11] <bioterror> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1078245
[21:11] <bioterror> bluetooth yes, other no
[21:13] <Kurdistan> bioterror okey his old computer have bluetooth
[21:13] <Kurdistan> but he said it dont work under windows also
[21:13] <Kurdistan> no device or some thing
[21:14] <bioterror> http://maroof-iamlookingforyou.blogspot.com/2009/10/lg-kp500-is-working-as-modem-in-ubuntu.html
[21:16] <Kurdistan> bioterror I did look on that but didnt understand
[21:16] <Kurdistan> anything
[21:17] <bioterror> we have: http://wiki.ubuntu-fi.org/Matkapuhelin_modeemina
[21:18] <Kurdistan> bioterror I can not kaksi kolme finnish :p
[21:19] <bioterror> hahaha
[21:19] <bioterror> vi moste läsa din språk i skola, men du måste inte läse os språk ;D
[21:21] <Kurdistan> haha :P bioterror klaga ej på mig
[21:25] <phillw> bioterror: Kurdistan if you could please use english, as the logs need to be searchable, thanks :)
[21:26] <Kurdistan> phillw okey
[21:26] <Kurdistan> do any body know how to autostart things in lubuntu/lxde
[21:27] <bioterror> yes
[21:27] <head_victim> Kurdistan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1518818
[21:28] <head_victim> Do we have a specific Lubuntu bot?
[21:28] <head_victim> Just thinking about adding some of the more common questions to it like ubottu's database
[21:28] <bioterror> technically we could have use for abot with our own database ;)
[21:28] <head_victim> I was just curious is all.
[21:36] <phillw> !lxterminal | head_victim
[21:36] <Kurdistan> mark it worked :)
[22:00] <Kurdistan> guys hotkeys does it work better in 10.10 then 10.04?
[22:00] <Kurdistan> my mouse is broken
[22:00] <Kurdistan> :) for the first time I need hotkeys
[22:02] <Kurdistan> brb
[22:51] <head_victim> What's the best way to display pdf's inside Chromium?
[22:51] <bioterror> that's some adobe tricks! ;D
[22:52] <bioterror> http://blog.chromium.org/2010/06/bringing-improved-pdf-support-to-google.html
[22:55] <head_victim> bioterror: nice link, doesn't say how to make it happen though does it?
[23:01] <phillw> slooksterpsv: you should be back on now.
[23:17] <Kurdistan> damn adeskbar is cool
[23:17] <Kurdistan> it fixed my hotkey problem with 10.04
[23:17] <Kurdistan> or it was done by lxkeymap
[23:18] <slooksterpsv> awesome
[23:18] <Kurdistan> really
[23:18] <Kurdistan> :) my favorite dock and fixer
[23:18] <Kurdistan> lol
[23:18] <benjr> my volume buttons work out of the box in 10.10
[23:19] <Kurdistan> benjr do you mean hotkey?
[23:20] <benjr> im not actulaly sure what a hot key is, sorry
[23:20]  * benjr crawls back in his hole
[23:22] <Kurdistan> benjr fn+f11
[23:22] <Kurdistan> need to go to bed