[10:43] AlanBell: Lovely email about unity :) [10:43] Especially <3 the followup ;) [10:54] :) [10:55] it was a reasonable question that will come up a lot over this cycle I expect [10:56] we need to a) answer the question and b) defuse the hostility [11:13] on the orca mailing list they were panicing about ubuntu gnome support "being dropped" [11:14] it's not being dropped! [11:14] especially not the accessibility support! [11:14] I told them de cdimage package plans to integrate unity and gnome on the same disc [11:14] yes [11:14] because older machines can't handle Unity [11:14] and also it means for people who don't like unity, it'll be easy to switch back to gnome desktop [11:15] in fact, one thing we've discussed is that Gnome Shell will have the same issue and have to support both as well [11:16] morning Pendulum [11:18] AlanBell: so I'm meeting with Charline at noon local time. thought you'd want to know ;-) [11:19] great === Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum [11:22] one nick change and 20 channels are lit [11:23] :) [12:06] AlanBell: did you ever get around to checking askubuntu.com using orca? [12:07] err no [12:07] I did restart with orca [12:07] and unity started up and I got all distracted by figuring that out [12:07] ah [12:08] any chance you could get to it before 21:15 BST? [12:10] TIMEOUT: something has hung. Aborting. [12:10] orca is not happy :( [12:10] in general or with askubuntu? [12:10] in general [12:10] unity? [12:11] not sure what is causing it, but I will try and get it running [12:11] however orca will work on the website I should think [12:11] the issue is whether they have done good keyboard navigation for the site [12:13] well it is javascript [12:16] http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/5207/stackoverflow-accessibility-with-screen-reading-software [12:17] http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/accessibility [12:18] so it seems there are users of the stack overflow sites who use screenreaders [12:19] yes, but not easily or well [12:19] it uses javascript to put things on the page, but once they are there it is just html [12:20] yes, seems they broke it for screenreaders and may or may not have fixed it by now [12:20] and there is the one about the major regression [12:20] yeah [12:27] http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/68898/how-accessible-are-the-stack-exchange-sites-for-users-of-screen-reader-software [12:29] well, orca does not even read the question you have asked [12:32] and then I got logged out suddenly === Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum [18:40] I am quite impressed by the deuteranopia compiz filter [18:40] there are some things like my irssi setup where channel names just dissappear for the colour blind [18:57] that can be a good thing