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_spacer_hi again01:57
_spacer_any one familiar with ssl/ssh vnc and vnc4server?01:57
_spacer_anyone?02:05
_spacer_any one familiar with ssl/ssh vnc and vnc4server?02:21
aveilleux_spacer_: If someone knows the answer then they will reply. I am familiar with SSH, but not vnc4server.02:25
barabajagalanyone have a good recomendation for a netbook to get that either has or can upgrade to the new netbook version?04:24
stlsaintbarabajagal: a netbook that can upgrade to a new netbook??04:24
stlsaintyou talking hardware here?04:24
barabajagalwant to buy a netbook, but want to be able to get the new ubuntu netbook version04:25
Cheri703www.zareason.com04:25
stlsaintCheri703: aye, good your aware of that site04:26
* Cheri703 has a zareason netbook04:26
Cheri703they're AWESOME04:26
Cheri703the company itself04:26
* aveilleux clutches his eyes04:26
aveilleuxso many redirects04:27
stlsainthehe04:27
barabajagalarrgh... they be notebooks, not netbooks04:33
Cheri703terra hd is a netbook04:34
barabajagalany reason why I couldn't get this one and then just do an install of the new version?04:36
barabajagalhttp://www.geeks.com/details.asp?InvtId=BLK-BNB-1021&cm_mmc=GoogleProducts-_-Laptops/Notebooks-_-NetBooks-_-BLK-BNB-1021&utm_source=GoogleProducts&utm_medium=ShoppingSites&utm_campaign=BLK-BNB-1021&zmam=2003677&zmas=15&zmac=159&zmap=BLK-BNB-102104:36
aveilleuxbarabajagal: This is a much better resource for you. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks04:37
barabajagalwow... thanks!04:38
karthick87I need a help configuring postfix05:06
karthick87can someone help me05:06
stlsaintkarthick87: postfix?05:07
stlsainti probably am useless to ya05:08
karthick87Ya postfix05:08
bioterrorkarthick87, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix05:10
karthick87I have already go through that link05:10
karthick87I have configured already...How to verify that my smtp server is working properly..?05:13
aveilleuxkarthick87: Try to send something from it?05:14
bioterrorkarthick87, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix#Testing05:15
karthick87I have send a mail to my gmail account,but i dont receive it even in spam folder05:15
slooksterpsvis anyone here05:53
karthick87yeah]05:54
aveilleux!ask | slooksterpsv05:54
ubot2slooksterpsv: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)05:54
slooksterpsvok we loaded a driver with ndiswrapper, but when we reboot we have to issue ifconfig wlan0 up to get the driver to work, should we just add ifconfig wlan0 up to the /etc/network/interfaces or do we need to do something else?05:54
aveilleuxslooksterpsv: You shouldn't have to do that... did you add ndiswrapper to /etc/modules?05:56
slooksterpsvit did for us with: ndiswrapper -i05:56
slooksterpsvor -m one of the two05:56
slooksterpsvaveilleux: it is a pcmcia card, wireless, and yeah not sure what else we can do ... on a reboot ndiswrapper -l shows it's installed05:57
aveilleuxslooksterpsv: ndiswrapper -m should have done that... hm. Pastebin the output of the Terminal command: cat /etc/modules.conf05:58
aveilleux!pastebin | slooksterpsv05:58
ubot2slooksterpsv: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.05:58
slooksterpsvaveilleux: I know how to use pastebin05:58
aveilleuxslooksterpsv: Just making sure ;-)05:58
slooksterpsvaveilleux: can you join #lubuntu - I'm helping someone out there regarding the issue05:59
aveilleuxEr, okay05:59
karthick87Can someone tell me,how to access a remote desktop..?06:02
aveilleuxkarthick87: What OS is the remote system running?06:02
karthick87windows 706:03
aveilleuxkarthick87: What version?06:03
aveilleuxkarthick87: By that I mean Home, Pro, Enterprise, etc06:03
shahanGrab lost due to windows installation06:04
shahannow want to recover using Startup disk06:04
shahanon MAVERICK06:04
karthick87Windows 7 home premium06:04
shahanits Windows XP06:04
slooksterpsvaveilleux: it contains just: lp  in modules06:05
aveilleuxslooksterpsv: I saw that06:05
shahanits a live startup disk using Remastersys creation06:05
slooksterpsvkarthick87: run mstsc in the run field or the start search06:05
slooksterpsvkarthick87: oops not how to run remote desktop but how to remote desktop sorry read that wrong06:06
aveilleuxkarthick87: Windows 7 Home Premium cannot be connected to from a Windows Terminal Services client (that is, Remote Desktop.) http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7install/thread/0cb69a49-868b-47e0-a760-1a16567413bc06:06
shahanIts here what have I done http://paste.ubuntu.com/521875/06:06
slooksterpsvkarthick87: I would recommend installing a VNC viewer or TeamViewer - TeamViewer is nice; VNC is great cause you can have it as a server type deal06:06
slooksterpsv*VNC Server gah, VNC Viewer is how you view the server, I cannot type tonight I'll be quiet in here06:07
aveilleuxkarthick87: As slooksterpsv mentioned, alternatives exist like VNC (free, open-source) and TeamViewer (free, closed-source but much easier to set up)06:07
karthick87what about ssh..?06:08
slooksterpsvkarthick87: there is an openssh server for Windows, let me see if I can find it for you06:08
aveilleuxkarthick87: SSH is text-mode login, and it is not available on Windows by default. You can't do much on Windows if you log in through Terminal, though.06:09
aveilleuxkarthick87: Windows' command line isn't very powerful.06:09
karthick87i am running ubuntu 10.04 i want to access windows 7 remotely06:09
slooksterpsvkarthick87: the powershell is though =D06:09
aveilleuxkarthick87: Is this your machine?06:09
slooksterpsvoops aveilleux - the powershell is though06:09
karthick87Yes its my machine06:09
aveilleuxslooksterpsv: You can't log into PowerShell remotely, aiaik06:09
aveilleuxafaik*06:09
aveilleuxkarthick87: The easiest thing to do would be to set up TeamViewer. It's simple, secure, and it runs on Windows, GNU/Linux and OSX.06:10
slooksterpsvaveilleux: lets find out... I know you can on server editions cause thats how it connects to the mailboxes when doing active directory with the plugins for oh whats it called06:10
aveilleuxkarthick87: http://teamviewer.com/06:10
aveilleuxslooksterpsv: This is Home Premium we're talking about.06:10
aveilleuxslooksterpsv: The thing doesn't even ship with PowerShell.06:10
slooksterpsvaveilleux: you can install powershell on it though06:11
slooksterpsvaveilleux: if you have internet06:11
aveilleuxslooksterpsv: Can, yes, but for this person's purposes I do not believe it is necesary.06:11
slooksterpsvaveilleux: sorry to be OT, but yeah the .NET scripting for Powershell is horrendous06:11
DrecondiusI need help with getting a belking wireless n basic model f7d1101 adapter working i have searched and searched and cannot for the life of me find anything useful06:16
aveilleuxDrecondius: Have you tried using ndiswrapper?06:17
DrecondiusYes06:17
Drecondiusthe adapter has no power06:17
Drecondiusbut it is listed when i use lsusb06:17
aveilleuxDrecondius: How do you know the device has no power?06:18
Drecondiusno light06:18
aveilleuxDrecondius: That just means the device isn't in use.06:18
Drecondiusi was just about to correct myself lol06:18
aveilleuxDrecondius: What directions did you follow when you installed ndiswrapper?06:18
Drecondiusi installed it through synaptic, browsed the cd, copied the particular driver folder to my hd pointed the wrapper to the inf file06:19
Drecondiusand now the wrapper won't even show06:19
Drecondiusit was a 64bit driver btw since im  using an x64 environment06:20
aveilleuxDrecondius: what do you mean, "pointed the wrapper to the inf file"?06:20
aveilleuxDrecondius: You mean you ran ndiswrapper -i <inf_file>?06:20
Drecondiusno it was using a gui06:21
aveilleuxDrecondius: ...the ndiswrapper GUI is horrendous, to say the least. What version of Windows did you take the drivers from?06:21
Drecondiusthe first one was xp6406:22
Drecondiusand i haven't gotten the gui to work since06:22
Drecondiusso if i can do this through the terminal im ALL for it06:22
aveilleuxDrecondius: Where are the drivers located?06:23
Drecondiusburied 2 folders deep in my home directory06:23
aveilleuxDrecondius: Take the drivers themselves (the inf files and whatever else) and drop them into a folder on your desktop called "driver"06:24
aveilleuxDrecondius: I'm asking you to do this so there are no unknowns in my instructions.06:24
Drecondiusdone06:25
aveilleuxDrecondius: Open Terminal, type "sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper" (without the quotes)06:26
aveilleuxDrecondius: This should come up with something like "already installed", but I'm just making sure06:26
Drecondiusunable to locate package ndiswrapper06:26
Drecondiuslemme try one more time06:27
aveilleux...hm06:27
aveilleuxDrecondius: try ndisgtk instead06:27
Drecondiusalready installed06:28
Drecondiuslol06:28
Drecondiusok06:28
aveilleuxDrecondius: How much do you know about Terminal?06:29
Drecondiuswell enough to  botch a video driver installation and fix it06:29
aveilleuxDrecondius: Okay, so I can assume you know what I mean when I say "navigate to ~/Desktop/driver"06:30
Drecondiusyup06:30
aveilleuxm'k06:30
Drecondiusnext06:30
Drecondiusi know a few basic commands if that helps out if i am confused ill ask06:31
aveilleuxDrecondius: Okay, so you're in that folder?06:31
Drecondiusin the terminal yup06:31
aveilleuxDrecondius: What is the name of the inf file? (case-sensitive)06:31
Drecondiusall lowercase but net8192su.inf06:32
Drecondiusalso another inf file06:32
Drecondiusbut i think it's for the windows installer06:32
aveilleuxDrecondius: There are inf files and .sys files in there, right?06:33
Drecondiusthe files are as follows : EAPInstall.exe (windows), eappkt.sys, net8192su.inf, rtl8192su.sys, net8192su.cat, and EAPPkt.inf06:34
aveilleuxDrecondius: Okay. run  sudo ndiswrapper -i net8192su.inf06:35
Drecondiussays it's already installed but that would be the x64 version that it crashed on, how do i remove that06:36
Drecondiusand point it back to this one06:36
aveilleuxDrecondius: pastebin the output of "ndiswrapper -l"06:37
aveilleux!pastebin | Drecondius06:37
ubot2Drecondius: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.06:37
Drecondiusevent not found06:39
aveilleuxDrecondius: "event"?06:40
Drecondiuslet me try again06:40
Drecondiusbash: !pastebin: event not found06:41
aveilleuxDrecondius: No, no, copy the text from the Terminal (select text, then right-click and hit "copy")06:41
aveilleuxDrecondius: then paste it into the box at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/06:41
Drecondiuswell minor issue atm i have a clear terminal06:42
aveilleux..what06:42
Drecondiusthe onlything i have showing right now is j@gerald-Dell-XPS-600:06:43
Drecondiusthen on to my driver folder06:43
aveilleuxDrecondius: Well run the command ndiswrapper -l06:43
aveilleuxDrecondius: then copy the output and paste it into pastebin06:43
Drecondiusok06:44
Drecondiusassuming that's an L I am waiting on it to print something06:45
DrecondiusIt's not doing anything but sitting there with a flashing box06:46
aveilleuxhm. is the whole command lower-case?06:48
Drecondiusit would seem that all of the switches for ndiswrapper are06:49
aveilleuxDrecondius: They are, I'm just making sure. Press Ctrl-c to cancel the command.06:50
Drecondiusand it is using the same font that i'm seeing in this window06:50
Drecondiusok06:50
aveilleuxDrecondius: This is odd... try running "ndiswrapper -l >> output && gedit output" (without the quotes of course)06:51
Drecondiusok here's the deal i used ndiswrapper -r (filename) and it said the file didn't exist06:51
aveilleuxDrecondius: There is no -r switch from what I can see....06:51
aveilleuxDrecondius: What happened when you ran that command?06:53
Drecondiusrepeat that command please06:54
aveilleuxndiswrapper -l >> output && gedit output06:55
Drecondiusnothing06:56
aveilleuxDrecondius: ...nothing at all? Like, the text editor doesn't open?06:57
Drecondius nope just sits there06:57
aveilleuxDrecondius: ctrl+c again06:57
Drecondiusok06:57
aveilleuxDrecondius: Close and re-open Terminal, I think it's hanging on a previous command06:57
Drecondiusok fresh terminal06:58
aveilleuxDrecondius: Enter that command again06:58
Drecondiusit's still hanging like it isn't finding anything06:59
aveilleuxDrecondius: Hrm! Well, try this: sudo apt-get purge ndiswrapper  followed by sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper07:00
aveilleuxDrecondius: This will completely remove and reinstall ndiswrapper07:00
aveilleuxer,07:00
aveilleuxno07:00
aveilleuxsudo apt-get purge ndiswrapper-common07:00
aveilleuxsudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.907:01
Drecondiusdone07:02
Drecondiusbrb bio07:02
aveilleuxDrecondius: That was fast. Okay,w-- okay.07:02
Drecondiussorry mmo talk07:03
Drecondiusim back though07:03
aveilleuxDrecondius: Heh, I understood it :P In any case!07:04
aveilleuxDrecondius: now try running just ndiswrapper without any flags07:04
aveilleuxDrecondius: Do you get any output?07:04
Drecondiusgives me a list of command flags07:07
aveilleuxDrecondius: Good, that means ndiswrapper is responding. Now see if you get any output with ndiswrapper -l07:07
Drecondiusnothing07:08
aveilleuxDrecondius: Nothing, as in it hangs, or nothing, as in no output and you're back and a prompt?07:08
Drecondiuslast night when i was doing this in a wubi install i had to enter recovery mode and have grub  relist everything then it worked correctly07:09
Drecondiusand it sits there with a flashing box07:09
Drecondiusbut i can't seem to get into the boot loader07:09
aveilleuxDrecondius: um07:09
aveilleuxDrecondius: ndiswrapper has nothing to do with grub.07:09
Drecondiusdoes it work like windows with f807:09
Drecondiusi know but that's what worked07:10
Drecondiuslet me reboot07:10
Drecondiusi haven't done that since i installed it07:10
Drecondiusi will be right back07:10
aveilleuxDrecondius: Okay well, I really need to sleep (it's 0210 in my local time)07:10
aveilleuxDrecondius: So, I guess we'll have to pick this up tomorrow07:11
aveilleuxWhen he comes back, can someone relay my message to him in case he didn't get it, please?07:11
* aveilleux nods at the silence.07:11
aveilleuxFantastic.07:12
DrecondiusI am back07:26
bioterrorDrecondius, aveilleux went to sleep07:28
Drecondiusah07:30
Drecondiusim still going through what he said to do but it's still showing that there isn't a file where there is supposed to be a driver07:31
DrecondiusIs it even the slightest possibility that 96 missing updates might affect my issue07:32
Drecondiusmaybe a kernel update will fix it *crosses fingers*07:34
DrecondiusI will admit that Ubuntu makes things a bit easier07:45
Drecondiusbioterror are you still here?08:14
Drecondiuswhere else could i go to get help with this problem?08:16
DrecondiusO i know08:16
bioterrorDrecondius, ueas O a,08:18
bioterroryes I am08:18
bioterrornow for a moment08:18
Drecondiusok i have the driver installed any idea what to do next08:19
Drecondiusit's not showing networks but it is listed and i have ndiswrapper able to list the driver08:19
bioterrorhmmm08:19
bioterroryou have lights on in your wlan?08:20
Drecondiusnope08:20
Drecondiusshows up in lsusb08:20
bioterrorsudo ifconfig wlan0 up08:20
Drecondiuserror while getting interface flags: No such device08:21
Drecondiusshould i use the -a devid driver flag for ndiswrapper08:23
Drecondiusit states dangerous but .....08:24
Drecondiusquick question off topic08:26
bioterrorI'm not familiar with ndiswrapper08:26
Drecondiushow do i set an ntfs drive to auto-mount08:26
Drecondiusok08:26
bioterrorI've got supported chips all my lifetime ;)08:26
Drecondiusbah, curse my luck08:27
bioterrorbut seems so, that you're device is not loaded08:27
Drecondiusnot as of yet08:27
Drecondiusit may be in the near future08:27
DrecondiusIs it ok to just chat in here?08:36
bioterrorthat dell xps 600 is a desktop?08:37
Drecondiusyah08:38
Drecondiuswell technically full tower08:39
Drecondiuscan i get an app that shows all of my computer information like cpuz for windows08:41
bioterrorDrecondius, cat /proc/cpuinfo08:43
DrecondiusOdd08:45
bioterrorthere should be some sort of "system profiler and benchmark" application08:45
Drecondiusbenchmark and profiler is exactly what i was looking for08:45
Drecondiusill dig around in the software repos08:45
Drecondiusbut this is odd08:46
bioterrorHardinfo is the name of the application08:46
Drecondiusgotcha08:46
DrecondiusI realize this may be a silly question but I really need to ask it08:51
DrecondiusDo you dual boot?08:51
Drecondiusinto windows?08:52
bioterrorwell08:54
bioterrorwith my worklaptop yes08:54
bioterrorbut usually I dont08:54
bioterrorI just happen to need exchange and pc-suite08:54
Drecondiusok maybe you can answer this08:54
bioterrorwith my own hardware, one os, one love08:54
Drecondiusdid you install ubuntu over the windows loader08:55
bioterroryes08:55
bioterroractually08:55
bioterrorwindows has own 100MB partition or something like that for their chainloader08:55
bioterrorand ubuntu installs grub into MBR08:55
bioterrorwhen you boot your computer, it will first load GRUB from the MBR08:55
Drecondiuswell grub wiped my windows loader08:55
bioterrorand if you say grub that "hey, I would like to boot Windows" it will then move to the window chainloader08:55
bioterrorhmmm08:55
bioterroryou can say in ubuntu this08:56
bioterror"sudo apt-get install os-prober"08:56
Drecondiusgrub doesn't see the loader anymore08:56
bioterror"sudo os-prober"08:56
Drecondiusok08:56
bioterror"sudo grub-update"08:56
bioterrorand the magic is done08:56
Drecondiuswhen i use the os-prober it just goes back to the prompt08:57
bioterrorit should say "found windows xp" or something like that08:58
Drecondiusnada08:58
bioterrorweird?08:58
Drecondiuswait08:58
Drecondiusdoesnt pata load before sata08:58
bioterroryes08:58
Drecondiusdamn08:58
Drecondiusok im freaking for nothing then08:58
bioterrorI just added one pata drive to my machine and previous sda which used to be a sata is now sdb :(08:59
bioterrorbut thank god we have these UUID's08:59
DrecondiusI try to remember my disk ID's08:59
Drecondiusbut thankfully i don't have to08:59
Drecondiusthey are 3 different sizes08:59
Drecondiusim going to switch things up tomorrow though and put this os on a bigger hard drive and move windows to this hd09:00
DrecondiusI know i can play wow on here and have it update fine09:00
Drecondiusand guild wars09:00
Drecondiusdon't know how im gonna play lotr and ddo though09:01
Drecondiuswine doesn't play well with them09:01
DrecondiusOh09:01
DrecondiusHave you heard of Ventrilo?09:01
Drecondiusand if so do you know if there is a client for linux09:02
Drecondiusor something that will let me connect to it09:03
bioterrorno I have not09:04
Drecondiusim searching around now09:04
bioterrorDrecondius, I've made choises in my life and I've chosen to use mainly OpenSource software and operating systems in my home09:05
bioterrorI can play Assault Cube or something like that if I want to09:05
DrecondiusThat's what Im aiming to do.09:05
bioterrorI dont miss gaming much09:05
Drecondiusbut I have to admit that im Blissfully addicted to gaming09:05
bioterrorto be quite honest, I have no time or energy to play09:06
DrecondiusUnfourtunately I have all the time in the world.09:06
bioterrorI have my past when I used to sit on sofa and play need for speed games on sofa09:06
DrecondiusI still do that lol09:06
Drecondiusbrb09:06
bioterrorwhen my xbox (which I used only for media playing) crashed. I had to make some decissions. I was thinking about PS3, but it wasnt worth the price becouse I dont play games09:07
bioterrorand I'm trying to avoid these things becouse I have two kids and I dont want them to be addicted to gaming09:07
bioterrorI want them to play outside with their friends and enjoy it while they can09:07
DrecondiusI don't blame ya09:08
bioterrorif someday they come to me and insist that they want to play something, I'll take C64 and and plug 1541Ultimate II into it09:08
Drecondiuslol09:08
DrecondiusI remember playing some dungeon game on a Basic 50009:09
Drecondiusused vector graphics09:09
Drecondiusit was sweet09:09
bioterror:)09:09
Drecondiusif only i could remember the name09:09
Drecondiusi remember spending countless hours on that game09:09
Drecondiusand it "Required" you to type all of your actions out09:10
Drecondiusmuch like Zork09:10
Drecondiuswhich i want to play again09:10
DrecondiusI love a good Story09:10
DrecondiusMost of the games I play aren't Action based though they're RPG09:10
bioterrorI like xmahjongg :D09:10
DrecondiusI hate mahjongg09:11
Drecondiuswell09:11
bioterror:D09:11
Drecondiusnot hate09:11
Drecondiusjust dislike09:11
Drecondiusit always beats me lol09:11
DrecondiusAll in all though I want a comp that does what I want.09:14
DrecondiusWine has come a Very long way to sating that lust09:15
DrecondiusI actually had M$ office running on 9.1009:15
Drecondiusbut that was just me being experimental09:15
DrecondiusAre you a straight Ubuntu user while at home or do you use Kubuntu as well?09:16
DrecondiusWhat I love about Ubuntu and all of it's Derivitives though is the strength of it's security09:18
pedro3005well, that's just linux09:26
pedro3005linux is secure :)09:26
bioterrorDrecondius, I'm using Lubuntu and my wife uses Salix OS 13.1 on her laptop09:27
DrecondiusLubuntu?09:27
bioterroryeah09:28
Drecondiusand I just found a solution to my Ventrilo issue too09:28
bioterrorhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu09:28
Drecondiuswow, that one would SMOKE on my rig09:29
Drecondiusbut Xubuntu is similar to that but runs like 10.10 Ubuntu on this rig09:30
Drecondiuswhat are the main differences between Lubuntu and Ubuntu, is it set up in pretty much the same way?09:34
Drecondiusoooooooo09:34
DrecondiusPretty09:35
Drecondiussetup similar to kde09:35
Drecondiuserr, Kubuntu09:35
Drecondiuslol09:35
pedro3005the difference is the desktop environment, along with the default packages09:36
pedro3005Lubuntu uses LXDE, Ubuntu uses GNOME, Kubuntu KDE etc..09:36
Drecondiusxubuntu uses xfce09:36
pedro3005kde is by far the prettiest :p09:37
Drecondiussylpheed, is that a decent email client. as in less bloated than thunderbird09:37
Drecondiusyah09:37
DrecondiusI love the kde environ but man it takes a toll on resources09:38
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pedro3005yeah i've been using it for a while now09:38
pedro3005but actually i'm using arch linux09:39
Drecondiusso many distros09:39
Drecondiuswhat's arch linux09:39
pedro3005a distro09:39
DrecondiusLots of customization?09:40
pedro3005it is kind of minimal09:41
pedro3005it puts everything up to you09:41
Drecondiusthat's like gentoo09:41
pedro3005yeah but it has a package system09:41
pedro3005gentoo requires you to compile, arch doesn't09:41
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Drecondiusoh09:42
Drecondiusok that's better09:42
Drecondiusim not so good at compiling09:42
DrecondiusI can't even compile mame09:43
pedro3005arch is rolling release too09:44
pedro3005it puts up the new packages fast and barely modified, as the author intended09:45
pedro3005ubuntu isn't slow in that aspect though09:45
pedro3005just a little more precatious09:45
pedro3005which is arguably good and bad09:45
pedro3005depends on your preference I suppose09:45
Drecondiuswell In my opinion its much better than windows09:48
pedro3005I would agree09:48
DrecondiusThey wait till they believe it's stable on a Wide variety of configurations.09:48
Drecondiusand 6months isn't that bad of a cycle09:48
pedro30056 months is the release cycle09:49
pedro3005I'm talking about packages09:49
Drecondiusoops09:49
pedro3005like, the new python 309:49
DrecondiusIs it easy to write code in python?09:49
pedro3005yeah I like python09:49
DrecondiusI've never learned a programming language I want to start, It's better late than never.09:50
DrecondiusMainly because I am going back to school soon for Network specialist09:51
DrecondiusPlease forgive my punctuation, or the lack thereof. Coming down off of MMO typing lol.09:51
pedro3005yeah definitely start09:53
pedro3005https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Development/Academy/IntroToPython these are some classes I've been giving on python09:53
pedro3005i must leave now09:53
pedro3005see you later Drecondius09:53
Drecondiusanybody still in here?09:58
Drecondiusbio?09:59
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Maddethhey hobgoblin15:14
Maddethhey Silver_Fox_15:14
hobgoblinhi there Maddeth :)15:14
Silver_Fox_Hello Maddeth15:14
zeroseven0183Good evening everyone15:14
hobgoblingoodnow zeroseven018315:15
zeroseven0183:)15:15
MaddethI am stuck in work for annother 3 hours 15 minutes15:16
hobgoblinI'm not - I am home - drinking tea15:17
Maddethrub it in hobgoblin... rub it in15:17
hobgoblinokey15:17
hobgoblinI'm not - I am home - drinking tea15:17
hobgoblin:)15:18
Maddeth... thanks15:18
Maddethyuo are so kind15:18
Maddeth:p15:18
Maddethyou*15:18
hobgoblinso other than working - how's life?15:18
ibuclawMaddeth, I'm at home, drinking tea15:27
ibuclawactually, white lie. I drank it all.15:27
Maddethibuclaw: you never fail to dissapoint16:01
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harrisonkwhat compression has the highest compresion ratio?16:13
harrisonkBzip?16:13
harrisonktar.gz?16:13
drubinharrisonk: Depends on what you wan tto compression16:20
drubinbzip works wonders for text only stuff16:20
kristian-aalborghi all17:43
kristian-aalborgjust maxed out the old Thinkpad with 256 mb ram17:44
aveilleuxkristian-aalborg: What do you mean by "maxed out"17:45
kristian-aalborgit's all it takes17:45
kristian-aalborg:)17:45
kristian-aalborgbut, it does not recognise all of it17:45
aveilleuxkristian-aalborg: Some is probably reserved for graphics memory17:46
kristian-aalborgthis should be fixable with a bios update - but I'm not keen on doing that17:46
kristian-aalborgaveilleux: no, that's not it17:46
kristian-aalborgit simply does not see the memory17:48
aveilleuxkristian-aalborg: It could be an incompatible module.17:51
kristian-aalborgit's there in bios17:52
hobgoblincheck in the bios17:52
kristian-aalborgavailable ram is listed as 25617:52
hobgoblintoo slow lol17:52
kristian-aalborgand then "read bios" is, erm, 180 or so17:52
kristian-aalborgit IS a bios issue, you could say17:52
kristian-aalborgbut I'd prefer not risking ruining the box with a failed bios update17:53
hobgoblinyou need to check the shared memory I would say17:53
aveilleuxkristian-aalborg: I've never seen a BIOS update fail.17:53
kristian-aalborghobgoblin: could you expand?17:54
kristian-aalborgaveilleux: I've never tried it17:54
kristian-aalborgand I'd have to go some unofficial route as I don't have Windows on the box17:55
hobgoblinkristian-aalborg: shared memory/graphics - it would appear that some is being used17:55
kristian-aalborgcommand?17:56
hobgoblinin the bios - you'll just need to look I think17:56
kristian-aalborgthat17:57
kristian-aalborgwhoops17:57
aveilleuxkristian-aalborg: Most BIOS updates I've used involve a boot disc17:57
kristian-aalborgthat's where it says 256 found, less used17:57
aveilleuxkristian-aalborg: There is most likely a setting somewhere to set the shared graphics memory17:58
hobgoblinkristian-aalborg: I understand that - but I suspect you will also find a what to change it17:58
hobgoblinty aveilleux - slow and fat fingers here :)17:58
karthick87hobgoblin hi18:09
karthick87nick hobgoblin hi18:10
hobgoblinfirst one works :)18:10
Mohan_chmlHiyas hobgoblin18:17
hobgoblinhi Mohan_chml18:17
Mohan_chmlhobgoblin, how are you today?18:17
Mohan_chmlbodhizazen, Ping. I need some good articles/books regarding IP tables. give me some suggestions =]18:18
hobgoblinMohan_chml: I'm good ty18:19
Mohan_chml(:18:20
kristian-aalborgI'm in bios now18:26
kristian-aalborgnowhere is there a memory management menu, as far as I can see18:26
kristian-aalborgI get "available" and "usable" ram - nothing more18:26
aveilleuxkristian-aalborg: Look under "integrated peripherals"18:27
DrecondiusI need HELP again !!!!18:28
bioterrorreally ;)18:29
bioterrorwhat's wrong this time?18:29
Mohan_chmlDrecondius, shoot =]18:29
DrecondiusI need to "reinstall" Grub18:29
bioterror!grub218:29
ubot2GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Ubuntu 9.10.  For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub218:29
DrecondiusYup18:29
bioterrorka-chow! ;D18:30
Mohan_chmlDrecondius, the link given by ubot2 will guide you. please have a look18:30
aveilleuxDrecondius: I was working with you yesterday, what happened to GRUB?18:30
DrecondiusWell18:30
DrecondiusYou see what had happened was ....18:30
DrecondiusI split my Primary boot drive to install win7 on half and Ubuntu on the other18:31
Drecondiuswell installed ubuntu first instead of win 718:31
kristian-aalborgaveilleux: no such thing18:31
aveilleuxDrecondius: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows18:31
aveilleuxkristian-aalborg: Look under "Advanced BIOS settings"18:32
kristian-aalborgaveilleux: no such thing either18:36
DrecondiusI shall return shortly, ..... I hope.18:41
DrecondiusI'm back but not in the pretty place18:47
DrecondiusIs there such a thing as Grub for windows?18:48
Drecondiusmight simplify this process18:49
Drecondiusand Give me back my Ubuntu18:49
DrecondiusOk, I have made it back into my Ubuntu installation, now how to get grub2 to take over and be the primary boot-loader19:11
Drecondius!grub219:12
ubot2GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Ubuntu 9.10.  For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub219:12
asterismoHi everyone19:14
DrecondiusHello.19:14
bioterrorhi19:14
asterismoi merged a dark theme that is very usable with very nice color scheme19:14
asterismoI've been seeking for dark themes but they are not very good and usable...19:15
asterismoi posted it in Gnome-look19:15
asterismohttp://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Dark+Matrix+Theme?content=13408119:15
DrecondiusI need that link to repair grub again if you're still here ummmm, sorry i can't remember your sn19:17
lateniteHi folks, why is "df -T" now showing the filesystemtype? http://pastie.org/125857919:24
paultaglatenite, because that's what -T does :)19:25
paultag       -T, --print-type19:25
paultag              print file system type19:25
paultagwhen in doubt, check the man pages :)19:25
latenitepaultag, **TYPO  now = NOT see my paste19:25
paultaglatenite, Kannst du besser auf Deutsch erklären? Ich kann doch schlect Deutsch sprechen, aber kann ich verstehen :)19:26
paultagOh, wait I see19:27
latenitepaultag, well I formated /dev/sda1 with ext3 but df -T does NOT show that is shows devtmpfs19:27
paultaglatenite, yes, I see19:27
lateniteinstead of ext319:27
paultagI just now opened it19:27
paultaglatenite, it could be the case that it's cached when the dev blocks are created19:28
paultaglatenite, have you brought the machine down and back up? ---- oh wait. That's sda... What are you doing? Are you trying to bootstrap the drive?19:29
latenitepaultag, what is beeing cached?19:29
paultaglatenite, the dev information -- the /dev/* block devices are created on boot19:29
paultaglatenite, and if you re-partition they wont change, I wonder if it's the same for dev type19:29
lateniteI am formating a new remote box...19:29
paultaglatenite, OK, so lets see. One second19:30
lateniteok.. ..19:31
bodhizazenpaultag: !!!19:31
paultagbodhizazen, :)19:31
bodhizazenhttp://blog.bodhizazen.net/Table/iptables.php?nav=iptables19:31
paultagbodhizazen, kickass -- I'll read it if you can help latenite refresh his drive dev geometry19:32
paultagbodhizazen, he partitioned a remote box, and he can't bounce it to pop the new dev blocks back in19:32
bodhizazenI am trying to re-theme my web site, will try to apply the theme to my blog as well19:32
bodhizazenThe linky is a bot "out of date" to the currnet theme, but you get the general idea19:33
paultagyup19:33
bioterrorbodhizazen, nice, good job with that one19:33
bodhizazenpaultag: how was the drive partitioned ?19:33
bodhizazenLive CD ?19:33
paultagbodhizazen, he just did a mkfs and the node is out of date -- might want to as latenite -- It sounds like ssh19:34
lateniteyes..live usbstick19:34
karthick87I there transliteration software available in ubuntu..?19:34
lateniteshow i am ssh d into the box19:34
bodhizazenreboot19:34
bodhizazenThanks bioterror =)19:34
bioterrorbodhizazen, even forrest gump should understand that ;)19:35
latenitebodhizazen, I cant..this s a installscript...NO reboot inbetween possibe...and I feel not neccessary when formating19:35
slooksterpsvok I installed banshee, and when I opened it up and I had a SD Card mounted that was an ISO rip of Ubuntu 10.04 it would crash after 20 seconds. unmounting the volume fixed, the issue, but why would it crash on a volume that had legit data on it?19:36
paultagAh, crap BRB19:36
latenitepaultag, bodhizazen I ant reboot in that script..19:36
karthick87Any software available in ubuntu to type in tamil..?19:37
bodhizazenlatenite: If you change the partition table you often need to reboot for the new partition changes19:37
bodhizazenlatenite: what is the exact command you ran, how did you partition the HD, and what is the exact error messsage =)19:39
bodhizazen!pastebin if you please19:39
ubot2bodhizazen: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:39
latenitebodhizazen, http://pastie.org/125857919:39
bodhizazenOK, and the error you are getting ?19:40
bodhizazen /dev/sda1 should NOT be mounted on /dev19:41
bodhizazenYou should probably mount it a /mnt19:41
latenitebodhizazen, it NOT mounted at all!19:41
bodhizazencheck with the mount command19:42
bodhizazenmount19:42
bodhizazenThe last line of your output says19:42
bodhizazenit is mounted at /dev19:42
latenitebodhizazen, what line? can you paste it?!19:43
latenitebodhizazen, with mount df -T is fine http://pastie.org/125862119:43
latenitebut showing fs-type should be possible without mounting19:44
bodhizazenWhat error message are you getting ?19:44
latenitebodhizazen, I dont get NO errors. JUST faultiy output of df -T19:45
bodhizazenfaulty how ?19:45
latenitebodhizazen, it sais devtmpfs instead of ext3...see my paste19:46
bodhizazenmount it19:47
bodhizazenmount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt19:47
bodhizazenthen run df again19:47
lateniteas I said BEFORE--this works19:47
bodhizazenI suspect you are getting that information as ou need to reboot after partitioning the HD and formatting the partition, the kernel is using old informatino19:48
latenitebut I dont want to mount JUST to determine fs-type19:48
bodhizazenreboot the let me know if the problem persists19:48
bodhizazenOr try blkid19:48
lateniteI SAID I CANT REBOOT...are you fooling me!!!!!!!!``````19:48
bodhizazenWhy not ?19:48
lateniteread above!19:49
mohan_I downloaded netbeans file ( 250+mb ) . It is in my download dir. But how to install it now?19:50
latenitemohan_, cd to dl-dir and "sh netbeansfile"19:51
slooksterpsvmohan_: ... should I report this bug or not - banshee, if it follows symbolic links, after a certain amount banshee crashes19:51
bodhizazenWhy can you not reboot ?19:52
lateniteit a installscript i am wringt..if I was to reboot I had to reastablish ssh connection19:53
bodhizazenlatenite: sounds as if you will need to build a reboot into your script19:56
bodhizazenI have only seen these kinds of problems when you partition the HD and make a new FS19:56
latenitebodhizazen, ok thank you :)19:57
bodhizazenYou can see if this helps at all19:58
bodhizazenhttp://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/re-read-the-partition-table-without-rebooting-linux-system.html19:58
bodhizazenlatenite: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9038454&postcount=819:59
bodhizazenhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9038673&postcount=1020:00
bodhizazenlatenite: That thread has a few posts that should explain the "problem" to you20:02
bodhizazenat least I think that is your problem =)20:02
bodhizazenPersonally I always reboot after changing my partitions, I know you do not "need" to, but it prevents problems20:05
bodhizazenAnd as I always partition from a live CD, it is not that big a deal.20:05
bodhizazenfor your script, advise a person prep the partitions first, then boot and run the script, so you do not need to partition and mkfs as a part of the scritp20:06
bodhizazenprobably the best20:06
latenitebodhizazen, ok look http://pastie.org/125866420:06
latenitenow all I need is a table of types...WHERE on the system is sich a table?20:06
bodhizazenProbably part of the kernel , not sure on that20:10
lateniteok20:10
karthick87cant able to send mail via terminal,someone help me...?20:28
bioterrorhuh?20:29
bioterrorusing sendmail or what+20:29
karthick87postfix20:29
karthick87Using postfix as my smtp server20:44
ehcahaveilleux:  I am in the process of modifying one of my bind/zone/ files based on a tutorial I found.  It suggests the following line: "home.lan. IN SOA ubuntu.home.lan. hostmaster.home.lan."  When I modify it, I assume it should be: "mydomain.com. IN SOA myservername.mydomain.com. hostmaster.mydomain.com."21:04
ehcahaveilleux: what in this case is the difference between "ubuntu" and "hostmaster"?  Is it redundant?21:05
aveilleuxehcah: I have no idea what any of that means21:06
ehcahLOL - Thank you anyway.21:06
bodhizazenAnyone here willing to look at my web page again ?23:32
bodhizazenIt is very clsoe to the final layout in terms of color, positioning, etc23:32
bodhizazenhttp://blog.bodhizazen.net/Table/iptables.php?nav=iptables23:32
pedro3005looking good bodhizazen23:34
pedro3005the Contact button moving around is kind of weird23:34
bodhizazenpedro3005: Aye, I have that fixed elsewhere though23:37
stlsaintbodhizazen: nice23:43
bodhizazenstlsaint: You like the new layout ?23:44

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