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ebroder | I realize that users should never see it at all, but could we suppress the "getpwid_r(): failed due to unknown user id (0)" warning from plymouth/glib by just creating a bogus /etc/passwd in the initrd? | 02:02 |
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ebroder | (with an entry for root) | 02:02 |
slangasek | ebroder: that's the appropriate workaround, I believe. Bug #649917 - test it out, submit? | 02:24 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 649917 in plymouth (Ubuntu Maverick) "GLIb-WARNING **: getpwid_r(): failed due to unknown user id" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/649917 | 02:24 |
ebroder | slangasek: Will do | 02:25 |
GanonKiller | there is a bug with alsa & VLC | 02:26 |
GanonKiller | VLC failed to initialize your sound output device (if any). | 02:26 |
GanonKiller | Please update alsa-lib to version 1.0.23-2-g8d80d5f or higher to try to fix this issue. | 02:26 |
ebroder | slangasek: You're not interested in seeing this SRU'd, are you? | 02:27 |
slangasek | ebroder: I am, actually; this issue generates a lot of bug mail noise that is obviously not helpful for fixing the underlying plymouth issues | 02:28 |
ebroder | slangasek: Ah, good point. If I can get something working, I'll try to push it back to Lucid too | 02:29 |
slangasek | ta | 02:29 |
GanonKiller | there is no update | 02:29 |
slangasek | GanonKiller: please file a bug against the vlc package, then with the command 'ubuntu-bug vlc' - this is not a bug reporting channel | 02:29 |
ebroder | Hmm...why does lp:ubuntu/plymouth not have the 0.8.2-2ubuntu5 version Riddell from the beginning of the month? | 03:04 |
slangasek | ebroder: bug #653832 | 03:06 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 653832 in Ubuntu Distributed Development "Import fails with "trying to import version ... again"" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/653832 | 03:06 |
slangasek | (http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/) | 03:06 |
ebroder | blargh | 03:07 |
miked | looking for php/java project to hack on | 04:14 |
miked | very much newbie, anyone needs help? | 04:14 |
* ebroder squints | 04:18 | |
ebroder | So plymouth in the initrd is only enabled if the FRAMEBUFFER option is set, which is done by casper but not the default install? | 04:19 |
slangasek | ebroder: it's only in the initramfs if we have something else in the initramfs that *needs* to prompt or show progress; otherwise it's only started post-initramfs so we can get to the real rootfs faster | 04:26 |
* ebroder nods | 04:27 | |
ebroder | well, i've hacked it into my initramfs, and hacked an /etc/passwd into my initramfs, and that doesn't seem to be enough to suppress the error. maybe i need an nsswitch.conf too or something? | 04:28 |
slangasek | hmm | 04:29 |
slangasek | probably | 04:29 |
ebroder | (i thought libc would fall back on compat or files or something if there wasn't an nsswitch) | 04:29 |
ebroder | hmm...nope, making a fake nsswitch.conf ("passwd: compat") and copying /lib/libnss_compat* into the initrd doesn't seem to be enough either | 04:33 |
ebroder | ah - libnss_compat has dependencies | 04:34 |
slangasek | nss_files is really what you want | 04:39 |
slangasek | and leave out nss_compat, that's just overhead | 04:39 |
ebroder | ok | 04:43 |
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jmehdi | could someone help me, I'm remastering ubuntu live cd and I have a problem with plymouth... | 09:26 |
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pavolzetor | Hallo | 11:11 |
pavolzetor | I have reported bug a while ago | 11:11 |
pavolzetor | and also posted patch | 11:11 |
pavolzetor | but no one cares | 11:11 |
pavolzetor | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/liferea/+bug/653995 | 11:11 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 653995 in liferea (Ubuntu) "reversed order of items in indicator applet and missing icons" [Undecided,New] | 11:11 |
pavolzetor | anyone? | 11:15 |
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corecode | hey | 12:54 |
corecode | i've been reading for an hour already, but i can't find a simple solution for uploading a debian packge into my ppa | 12:55 |
corecode | without having to edit the changelog | 12:55 |
corecode | what's the preferred way to tell the system to build this in, say, maverick instead of unstable | 12:56 |
kklimonda_ | you have to change the changelog | 12:56 |
corecode | that seems excessive | 12:59 |
corecode | for example bsd-mailx has version 8.1.2-0.20100314cvs-1 | 13:00 |
corecode | there is no ubuntu either | 13:00 |
corecode | how does that work then? | 13:00 |
kklimonda_ | by that do you mean "how do I upload it to ubuntu ppa" ? | 13:02 |
corecode | i don't understand | 13:03 |
kklimonda_ | that's probably because I'm still half-asleep. | 13:04 |
corecode | ditto :) | 13:04 |
kklimonda_ | oh, I understand | 13:04 |
kklimonda_ | bsd-mailx in the 8.1.2-0.20100314cvs-1 version doesn't have an ubuntu release in the changelog because it has been synced from debian directly. | 13:04 |
kklimonda_ | but you can't do that for PPAs | 13:05 |
corecode | but i can't do that for my ppa? | 13:05 |
corecode | if i wanted to build versions for jaunty, karmic, lucid and maverick, i'd have to do 4 manual modifications, run a debuild, then a dput? | 13:05 |
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kklimonda_ | yeah, at least for now. The problem is that you can't have the same package with the same version but different pockets in the single ppa | 13:08 |
kklimonda_ | so you have to upload them separately anyway. | 13:08 |
kklimonda_ | okay, I have to go for a breakfast | 13:08 |
corecode | yes i realized that | 13:15 |
corecode | shouldn't there be an easy way to specify the "pocket" during dput or debuild? | 13:15 |
corecode | without having to change the changelog | 13:15 |
StevenK | Nope, the pocket is figured from the .changes file | 13:16 |
corecode | ok | 13:16 |
corecode | so, can that pocket be changed when creating the changes file? | 13:16 |
corecode | i'm quite certain i saw a way to do that some time ago | 13:17 |
corecode | but i can't find it, of course | 13:17 |
StevenK | No, dpkg-genchanges can't do that | 13:20 |
corecode | that's a bit unfortunate, isn't it? | 13:35 |
corecode | not sure i understand completely - do i upload a source package or a binary package? | 13:39 |
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sladen | corecode: source. *only* | 13:42 |
sladen | corecode: the build machines (buildds) compile it | 13:43 |
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corecode | i see | 13:47 |
corecode | thanks | 13:47 |
corecode | so it says that packages in debian sid will automatically appear in ubuntu | 13:48 |
corecode | is that so? | 13:48 |
corecode | or only for packages that already exist in ubuntu | 13:48 |
tumbleweed | corecode: the archive admins will periodically review new pcakages not yet in ubuntu and sync them in | 13:50 |
corecode | aha | 13:50 |
Copernic__ | is it easy to program something in Ubuntu? I'm used to Java, did do some C++, but thats 10 years ago :) | 13:57 |
Copernic__ | for ubuntu* | 13:57 |
corecode | i don't think that it makes any difference to any other unix | 13:57 |
Copernic__ | I guess I should just try :) | 13:57 |
corecode | type your code, compile, run | 13:57 |
Copernic__ | corecode, I was thinking about implementing this http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/24525/ | 13:59 |
corecode | i see | 14:00 |
corecode | good luck | 14:00 |
Copernic__ | hehe | 14:00 |
Copernic__ | I never programmed something for linux before | 14:01 |
corecode | i honestly think that idea is silly at best | 14:02 |
corecode | and i have no experience in gui design or development | 14:02 |
Copernic__ | corecode, I came to this idea becaus the apparmor profile for firefox is disabled | 14:02 |
Copernic__ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ#Firefox%20AppArmor%20profile | 14:03 |
Copernic__ | I thought that users should be able to change this if they wanted to | 14:03 |
corecode | they can, can't they | 14:03 |
Copernic__ | it's something only a technical user would do | 14:04 |
corecode | of course | 14:04 |
Copernic__ | haha you don't see the problem do you :) | 14:05 |
Copernic__ | the general public isn't technical | 14:05 |
corecode | right | 14:05 |
corecode | so they won't know about apparmor | 14:05 |
corecode | or what it means | 14:05 |
Copernic__ | indeed, and I was under the impression that apparmor is pretty important, because if some security threat is knocking at your door, it probably came with firefox or evolution | 14:06 |
corecode | quite likely, yes | 14:06 |
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Copernic__ | corecode, thats when I was starting to worry about the security for the general public :) | 14:08 |
corecode | then you need to fix it so that the default will work | 14:09 |
Copernic__ | corecode, I'm guessing they tried that | 14:09 |
Copernic__ | bbl, I'm going to take a 20min nap :) | 14:11 |
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corecode | how do people do automated uploads? | 14:22 |
corecode | don't they use passphrases on their gpg keys? | 14:23 |
kklimonda_ | corecode: I have a separate account (with separate key) for automated uploads. | 14:24 |
corecode | and that key doesn't have a passphrase | 14:25 |
kklimonda_ | and now I don't do that anyway since launchpad has gained the ability to create nightly builds. | 14:25 |
kklimonda_ | right | 14:25 |
corecode | from bzr branches? | 14:27 |
corecode | how can it do a nightly build? i thought the changes file has to be updated | 14:27 |
kklimonda_ | you can read more about recipes here: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/SourceBuilds/Recipes | 14:28 |
kklimonda_ | the idea is that launchpad branches your code (along with the debian/ subdirectory) and then bumps the changelog for every release. | 14:29 |
corecode | ah | 14:30 |
corecode | yes, that would be convenient | 14:30 |
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corecode | hm. | 14:39 |
corecode | seems that package *is* in ubuntu | 14:40 |
corecode | somehow i could set information that this package is in ubuntu or debian | 14:46 |
corecode | but i can't find it anymore | 14:46 |
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hooke | i've always been curious about how the grahics driver works,but i couldn't find any resources about this.anyone can give me some suggestions? | 15:24 |
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micahg | pitti: thunderbird on Ubuntu was deferred till Natty + 1, but we have a few work items to get the ball rolling | 16:31 |
pitti | micahg: thanks for the heads-up; I targetted it to natty, do you want this spec for the "get the ball rolling" parts, or want me to untarget it again? | 16:31 |
Ian_Corne | thunderbird in replacement of evince? | 16:32 |
Ian_Corne | err evolution? | 16:32 |
JontheEchidna | james_w: ping | 16:32 |
micahg | pitti: for me it doesn't matter, if jcastro needs it for his work item, then we can leave it targetted for natty | 16:32 |
pitti | micahg: ack; we can always postpone/untarget later then | 16:32 |
pitti | micahg: what's PGO? | 16:39 |
micahg | pitti: Profile Guided Optimizations | 16:39 |
pitti | micahg: we were wonering about what priority https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-desktop-n-firefox-pgo-builds shold have | 16:39 |
micahg | pitti: well, chrisccoulson has done most of the work already for it, but AFAIK, upstream isn't even doing this yet, so it's a nice to have, but not critical | 16:40 |
micahg | pitti: we'll get a start speed increase if we can get this done though, so that might impact it as well | 16:40 |
pitti | micahg: thanks; are you okay with being the approver for that one? | 16:41 |
micahg | pitti: well, if you like, seems a little weird though | 16:41 |
pitti | micahg: for the purpose of peer review; I can be the approver, too, but I'm afraid I know nothing about PGO | 16:42 |
micahg | pitti: if it's just peer review, I'm happy to do it | 16:42 |
pitti | micahg: thanks | 16:42 |
* micahg still needs to read more on it | 16:42 | |
hallyn | didrocks: regarding alt-t in terminal in 10.10 unity, you marked that triaged - is that bc it's fixed upstream, or for some more subtle reason? | 16:43 |
didrocks | hallyn: triaged is "the issue is known and confirmed". Upstream has an idea of where the issue is in that case. | 16:45 |
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andreserl | slangasek: ping? | 17:26 |
magedragon25 | maybe I can get some help here....I compiled my first kernel last night...I wanted a kernel specific to my hardware, but I think it compiled as a 32bit kernel. It stalled at the splash screen. Any tips on what to do next time, and how do i track down what went wrong this time | 17:30 |
hallyn | didrocks: ok, thx - slightly different from teh two other definitions of 'triaged' i've heard :) i was hoping it was more of a 'the fix is definately upstream'. but thanks | 17:36 |
didrocks | hallyn: no, this is "fix commited" in the upstream task | 17:36 |
hallyn | alrighty. (then i'll hold off a bit on upgrading the netbook) | 17:38 |
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james_w | hi JontheEchidna | 20:14 |
JontheEchidna | james_w: hi, I was looking at policykit-1 looking at merging it/updating it to the latest upstream release. The second half of the 03_complete_session patch doesn't apply anymore due to upstream changes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/522254/ | 20:17 |
JontheEchidna | is the patch safe to drop, or do changes need to be made to it? | 20:17 |
james_w | JontheEchidna, see the upstream bug report. I think it is still needed | 20:25 |
james_w | JontheEchidna, actually, that half can be dropped I think | 20:26 |
JontheEchidna | james_w: ok, cool | 20:26 |
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Cheery | I'd like to find some mechanism that lets me turn a virtual terminal to the opengl context for a duration of the executing program. | 20:51 |
Cheery | gotten it was impossible while back then. but what about now? | 20:52 |
Cheery | how quiet.. | 20:53 |
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hawkal | Please can someone tell me where I can find out more about the 64bit netboot install e.g package list/ source code? I would like to take a look at the guts of it. | 22:22 |
hawkal | I tried looking in cdimage.ubuntu.com but I couldn't see anything relevant to the netboot installs a part from iso files | 22:27 |
cjwatson | apt-get source debian-installer - the stuff in build/ is the build system, the stuff in doc/ is documentation on how a bunch of stuff around it works. you'll need to apt-get source additional packages from the package lists there in order to inspect individual components of the installer | 22:29 |
cjwatson | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installer/Development | 22:29 |
hawkal | Thank you very much cjwatson | 22:32 |
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shadeslayer | pitti: ok you will probably get the mail 2 times, the first time i forgot to sign the key and just sent the keys | 23:51 |
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