=== Pilif12p is now known as Pilif12p|afk === MattJ100 is now known as MattJ === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === Pilif12p|afk is now known as Pilif12p === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [02:02] I realize that users should never see it at all, but could we suppress the "getpwid_r(): failed due to unknown user id (0)" warning from plymouth/glib by just creating a bogus /etc/passwd in the initrd? [02:02] (with an entry for root) [02:24] ebroder: that's the appropriate workaround, I believe. Bug #649917 - test it out, submit? [02:24] Launchpad bug 649917 in plymouth (Ubuntu Maverick) "GLIb-WARNING **: getpwid_r(): failed due to unknown user id" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/649917 [02:25] slangasek: Will do [02:26] there is a bug with alsa & VLC [02:26] VLC failed to initialize your sound output device (if any). [02:26] Please update alsa-lib to version 1.0.23-2-g8d80d5f or higher to try to fix this issue. [02:27] slangasek: You're not interested in seeing this SRU'd, are you? [02:28] ebroder: I am, actually; this issue generates a lot of bug mail noise that is obviously not helpful for fixing the underlying plymouth issues [02:29] slangasek: Ah, good point. If I can get something working, I'll try to push it back to Lucid too [02:29] ta [02:29] there is no update [02:29] GanonKiller: please file a bug against the vlc package, then with the command 'ubuntu-bug vlc' - this is not a bug reporting channel [03:04] Hmm...why does lp:ubuntu/plymouth not have the 0.8.2-2ubuntu5 version Riddell from the beginning of the month? [03:06] ebroder: bug #653832 [03:06] Launchpad bug 653832 in Ubuntu Distributed Development "Import fails with "trying to import version ... again"" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/653832 [03:06] (http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/) [03:07] blargh [04:14] looking for php/java project to hack on [04:14] very much newbie, anyone needs help? [04:18] * ebroder squints [04:19] So plymouth in the initrd is only enabled if the FRAMEBUFFER option is set, which is done by casper but not the default install? [04:26] ebroder: it's only in the initramfs if we have something else in the initramfs that *needs* to prompt or show progress; otherwise it's only started post-initramfs so we can get to the real rootfs faster [04:27] * ebroder nods [04:28] well, i've hacked it into my initramfs, and hacked an /etc/passwd into my initramfs, and that doesn't seem to be enough to suppress the error. maybe i need an nsswitch.conf too or something? [04:29] hmm [04:29] probably [04:29] (i thought libc would fall back on compat or files or something if there wasn't an nsswitch) [04:33] hmm...nope, making a fake nsswitch.conf ("passwd: compat") and copying /lib/libnss_compat* into the initrd doesn't seem to be enough either [04:34] ah - libnss_compat has dependencies [04:39] nss_files is really what you want [04:39] and leave out nss_compat, that's just overhead [04:43] ok === Pilif12p is now known as Pilif12p|afk [09:26] could someone help me, I'm remastering ubuntu live cd and I have a problem with plymouth... === baffle_ is now known as baffle === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === hunger_ is now known as hunger [11:11] Hallo [11:11] I have reported bug a while ago [11:11] and also posted patch [11:11] but no one cares [11:11] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/liferea/+bug/653995 [11:11] Launchpad bug 653995 in liferea (Ubuntu) "reversed order of items in indicator applet and missing icons" [Undecided,New] [11:15] anyone? === Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [12:54] hey [12:55] i've been reading for an hour already, but i can't find a simple solution for uploading a debian packge into my ppa [12:55] without having to edit the changelog [12:56] what's the preferred way to tell the system to build this in, say, maverick instead of unstable [12:56] you have to change the changelog [12:59] that seems excessive [13:00] for example bsd-mailx has version 8.1.2-0.20100314cvs-1 [13:00] there is no ubuntu either [13:00] how does that work then? [13:02] by that do you mean "how do I upload it to ubuntu ppa" ? [13:03] i don't understand [13:04] that's probably because I'm still half-asleep. [13:04] ditto :) [13:04] oh, I understand [13:04] bsd-mailx in the 8.1.2-0.20100314cvs-1 version doesn't have an ubuntu release in the changelog because it has been synced from debian directly. [13:05] but you can't do that for PPAs [13:05] but i can't do that for my ppa? [13:05] if i wanted to build versions for jaunty, karmic, lucid and maverick, i'd have to do 4 manual modifications, run a debuild, then a dput? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:08] yeah, at least for now. The problem is that you can't have the same package with the same version but different pockets in the single ppa [13:08] so you have to upload them separately anyway. [13:08] okay, I have to go for a breakfast [13:15] yes i realized that [13:15] shouldn't there be an easy way to specify the "pocket" during dput or debuild? [13:15] without having to change the changelog [13:16] Nope, the pocket is figured from the .changes file [13:16] ok [13:16] so, can that pocket be changed when creating the changes file? [13:17] i'm quite certain i saw a way to do that some time ago [13:17] but i can't find it, of course [13:20] No, dpkg-genchanges can't do that [13:35] that's a bit unfortunate, isn't it? [13:39] not sure i understand completely - do i upload a source package or a binary package? === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [13:42] corecode: source. *only* [13:43] corecode: the build machines (buildds) compile it === sanchaz is now known as sanchaz-away === sanchaz-away is now known as shz-away === shz-away is now known as sanchaz2 [13:47] i see [13:47] thanks [13:48] so it says that packages in debian sid will automatically appear in ubuntu [13:48] is that so? [13:48] or only for packages that already exist in ubuntu [13:50] corecode: the archive admins will periodically review new pcakages not yet in ubuntu and sync them in [13:50] aha [13:57] is it easy to program something in Ubuntu? I'm used to Java, did do some C++, but thats 10 years ago :) [13:57] for ubuntu* [13:57] i don't think that it makes any difference to any other unix [13:57] I guess I should just try :) [13:57] type your code, compile, run [13:59] corecode, I was thinking about implementing this http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/24525/ [14:00] i see [14:00] good luck [14:00] hehe [14:01] I never programmed something for linux before [14:02] i honestly think that idea is silly at best [14:02] and i have no experience in gui design or development [14:02] corecode, I came to this idea becaus the apparmor profile for firefox is disabled [14:03] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ#Firefox%20AppArmor%20profile [14:03] I thought that users should be able to change this if they wanted to [14:03] they can, can't they [14:04] it's something only a technical user would do [14:04] of course [14:05] haha you don't see the problem do you :) [14:05] the general public isn't technical [14:05] right [14:05] so they won't know about apparmor [14:05] or what it means [14:06] indeed, and I was under the impression that apparmor is pretty important, because if some security threat is knocking at your door, it probably came with firefox or evolution [14:06] quite likely, yes === sanchaz-away is now known as sanchaz [14:08] corecode, thats when I was starting to worry about the security for the general public :) [14:09] then you need to fix it so that the default will work [14:09] corecode, I'm guessing they tried that [14:11] bbl, I'm going to take a 20min nap :) === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === zul_ is now known as zul [14:22] how do people do automated uploads? [14:23] don't they use passphrases on their gpg keys? [14:24] corecode: I have a separate account (with separate key) for automated uploads. [14:25] and that key doesn't have a passphrase [14:25] and now I don't do that anyway since launchpad has gained the ability to create nightly builds. [14:25] right [14:27] from bzr branches? [14:27] how can it do a nightly build? i thought the changes file has to be updated [14:28] you can read more about recipes here: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/SourceBuilds/Recipes [14:29] the idea is that launchpad branches your code (along with the debian/ subdirectory) and then bumps the changelog for every release. [14:30] ah [14:30] yes, that would be convenient === rgreening_ is now known as rgreening [14:39] hm. [14:40] seems that package *is* in ubuntu [14:46] somehow i could set information that this package is in ubuntu or debian [14:46] but i can't find it anymore === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [15:24] i've always been curious about how the grahics driver works,but i couldn't find any resources about this.anyone can give me some suggestions? === brianchidester_ is now known as brianchidester === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === bilalakhtar_ is now known as bilalakhtar === Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [16:31] pitti: thunderbird on Ubuntu was deferred till Natty + 1, but we have a few work items to get the ball rolling [16:31] micahg: thanks for the heads-up; I targetted it to natty, do you want this spec for the "get the ball rolling" parts, or want me to untarget it again? [16:32] thunderbird in replacement of evince? [16:32] err evolution? [16:32] james_w: ping [16:32] pitti: for me it doesn't matter, if jcastro needs it for his work item, then we can leave it targetted for natty [16:32] micahg: ack; we can always postpone/untarget later then [16:39] micahg: what's PGO? [16:39] pitti: Profile Guided Optimizations [16:39] micahg: we were wonering about what priority https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-desktop-n-firefox-pgo-builds shold have [16:40] pitti: well, chrisccoulson has done most of the work already for it, but AFAIK, upstream isn't even doing this yet, so it's a nice to have, but not critical [16:40] pitti: we'll get a start speed increase if we can get this done though, so that might impact it as well [16:41] micahg: thanks; are you okay with being the approver for that one? [16:41] pitti: well, if you like, seems a little weird though [16:42] micahg: for the purpose of peer review; I can be the approver, too, but I'm afraid I know nothing about PGO [16:42] pitti: if it's just peer review, I'm happy to do it [16:42] micahg: thanks [16:42] * micahg still needs to read more on it [16:43] didrocks: regarding alt-t in terminal in 10.10 unity, you marked that triaged - is that bc it's fixed upstream, or for some more subtle reason? [16:45] hallyn: triaged is "the issue is known and confirmed". Upstream has an idea of where the issue is in that case. === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [17:26] slangasek: ping? [17:30] maybe I can get some help here....I compiled my first kernel last night...I wanted a kernel specific to my hardware, but I think it compiled as a 32bit kernel. It stalled at the splash screen. Any tips on what to do next time, and how do i track down what went wrong this time [17:36] didrocks: ok, thx - slightly different from teh two other definitions of 'triaged' i've heard :) i was hoping it was more of a 'the fix is definately upstream'. but thanks [17:36] hallyn: no, this is "fix commited" in the upstream task [17:38] alrighty. (then i'll hold off a bit on upgrading the netbook) === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === sanchaz is now known as sanchaz-away === sanchaz-away is now known as sanchaz === bamolix is now known as bamolix_away === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno === Copernic__ is now known as c0p3rn1c === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === bamolix_away is now known as bamolix === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === sanchaz is now known as sanchaz-away [20:14] hi JontheEchidna [20:17] james_w: hi, I was looking at policykit-1 looking at merging it/updating it to the latest upstream release. The second half of the 03_complete_session patch doesn't apply anymore due to upstream changes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/522254/ [20:17] is the patch safe to drop, or do changes need to be made to it? [20:25] JontheEchidna, see the upstream bug report. I think it is still needed [20:26] JontheEchidna, actually, that half can be dropped I think [20:26] james_w: ok, cool === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [20:51] I'd like to find some mechanism that lets me turn a virtual terminal to the opengl context for a duration of the executing program. [20:52] gotten it was impossible while back then. but what about now? [20:53] how quiet.. === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [22:22] Please can someone tell me where I can find out more about the 64bit netboot install e.g package list/ source code? I would like to take a look at the guts of it. [22:27] I tried looking in cdimage.ubuntu.com but I couldn't see anything relevant to the netboot installs a part from iso files [22:29] apt-get source debian-installer - the stuff in build/ is the build system, the stuff in doc/ is documentation on how a bunch of stuff around it works. you'll need to apt-get source additional packages from the package lists there in order to inspect individual components of the installer [22:29] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installer/Development [22:32] Thank you very much cjwatson === bamolix_ is now known as bamolix === Pilif12p|afk is now known as Pilif12p [23:51] pitti: ok you will probably get the mail 2 times, the first time i forgot to sign the key and just sent the keys