[07:32] good evening /morning [07:33] anyone can explain the audio session in UDS???? [07:33] they talk in point 1, 2 , etc [07:33] but we dont see the slide..... [07:33] ScottL: ping [21:24] hi paultag, are you still working on flubuntu, or fubuntu, or fluxbuntu? [21:24] holstein, are you around? [21:29] ScottL, hey [21:29] ScottL, yeah -- fluxbuntu is totally different, but fubuntu or flubuntu ( whatever it's going to be called ) -- yeah. I hope to have the seeds happy soon [21:29] erm scott-upstairs I guess :) [21:30] lol yeah :) [21:30] scott-upstairs, https://launchpad.net/~paultag/+archive/fubuntu <-- testing packages [21:30] but that is sweet, and possibly good timing with all the concerns about GNOME and unity ;) [21:30] scott-upstairs, it installs great and looks OK. Needs some work, I think I'm going to shoot for O cycle [21:30] scott-upstairs, oooh, good point [21:30] fustudio [21:30] lol [21:30] scott-upstairs, I think I'll finish getting it happy this weekend [21:31] scott-upstairs, hahahahaha yes :) [21:31] paultag, how difficult was it to replace GNOME with flux ? [21:31] just removing the GNOME-desktop (or whatever it was) and adding the flux stuff? [21:32] scott-upstairs, I installed from minimal to test -- I've honestly never tried removing gnome and installing flux. My guess is you have to install flux, then remove gnome-desktop so it only removes what it needs to [21:32] scott-upstairs, otherwise you'll be removing / installing xorg ( and friends ) [21:32] I should come up with a migration script eventually [21:33] hrmm, that might make it difficult to build the ISO then, but kubuntu and xubuntu are doing it, maybe i should try to contact someone from their camp about it [21:34] :) [21:36] i doubt that i'd convince per.sia or the.muso about it, but it might be fun to replace gnome-desktop with flux in the seeds and build an ISO for one day a month during a build cycle....just to see what it would be like :P [21:36] hehehe [21:36] that would be fun :) [21:39] BBL, wine tasting time :) [21:41] ohhh, enjoy :) [21:41] scott-upstairs: if we really wanted to, we could carry flux as an alternative desktop on the disks, assuming we have the space. [21:41] hi TheMuso :) that is a really good idea [21:41] considering we currently use 1.7 gigs of a DVD i don't think that would be a problem either ;) [21:42] No. [21:43] And we can abstract the seed files such that any apps we want on both desktops can be in a common file, so the main desktop files for each desktop variant only contain packages that are specific to that desktop. [21:43] WHich makes maintenance easier. [21:44] oh, which helps me understand the purpose of the desktop and desktop-common seeds [21:45] i had been idly and passively wondering about that, without devoting any cycles to it really [21:45] this could be a really good idea :) [21:47] The only issue is handling the desktop choice at install time... [21:50] could that be a task and use tasksel [21:50] ? [21:51] is it possible to have multiple tasksel pages? one for audio/graphic/video packages and another for desktop preference? [21:53] No. [21:54] It certainly could be a task, but its hard to indicate that the users need to choose one desktop. [21:55] What we could do, is show both desktops, ahve the GNOME desktop selected by default, but provide the alternative desktop, and indicate something the lines of being less resource intensive, or some other. [21:57] Anyway, afk. [22:03] scott-upstairs: ping [22:06] * holstein +1 on flubuntu-studio :) [22:11] i'll be right back holstein , with family downstairs for a few minutes [22:11] ScottL: i might miss you [22:11] i gotta run in a bit [22:11] BUT ill catch up with you soon [22:12] i got a couple days off finally :) [22:24] okay holstein, i'm back upstairs if you are still there [22:39] scott-upstairs: yeah, i gotta run [22:39] im going to reply to your email [22:39] and get in the car... [22:40] im going to ask you on the list if those packages being removed are still in the repos [22:40] so if someone needs one, maybe they wont freak out about it [22:40] * holstein thinks maybe audacity should stay [22:43] althought i havent used audacity in a long time [22:43] BBL... [22:44] i sent out an email and posted to the forums about the new packages selection in natty, i hope the users respond