[00:00] viliny_: how is t? [00:00] viliny_: N900? [00:04] Ok, so I just installed Ubuntu 10.04 on my machine, and I'd like to install KDE. Is there any way to install KDE3 from a Kubuntu 10.04 (KDE3 Respin) CD? === naught102 is now known as naught101 [00:05] why KDE3? [00:05] Kalidarn, because I hate KDE4. [00:06] what do you hate about it [00:06] Kalidarn, so and very Windows Vistaish. The steps should be the same as installing KDE4 from a Kubuntu CD. [00:06] *slow [00:07] it depends on if your distributor supplies packages [00:07] im not even sure if ubuntu supply kde3 anymore [00:07] i don't think anyone really uses it anymore [00:07] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Kde3/Lucid that might be what you are after though [00:08] Kalidarn, I have Kubuntu 10.04 KDE3 Respin, but I was wondering how to install it onto a Ubuntu install from a CD> [00:08] Like getting the .deb files. === kim_ is now known as kimo [00:10] Sir_Konrad, that would be from a PPA, nothing for Maverick yet, and completely unsupported (ie 100% at your own risk) [00:10] Right bazhang. :) [00:10] kde3.5maintainers PPA === kimo is now known as kim3 [00:11] err -maintainers === Kalidarn is now known as zz_Kalidarn [00:15] Heck, I'll just get KDE 4. [00:18] I'm using kubuntu & kde desktop. Whenever I click a button in a gtk application (such as gimp) it makes a sound. How can I disable gtk button sounds? === jupaukowski is now known as BluesGirl [00:41] I've looked through the kde gnome settings, but I can't find anything there which will silence qt buttons. [00:45] the "kde gnome settings"? [00:45] kde settings, and the separate gnome settings === ross is now known as Guest80036 === Guest80036 is now known as rosscovv === muzer is now known as MuzerAway [01:57] Greets === zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn [04:31] Is anybody there? [04:56] I've made my own plymouth theme. It works fine with the plymouth deamon - plymouthd - under X. But not so well - or at all somehtimes - when I boot. Anyone? [05:11] hi [05:12] helooooo [05:13] any one [05:13] ? === Kalidarn is now known as zz_Kalidarn [05:40] hmm === Mike is now known as Guest53939 [06:11] hey.. whats the different between cd version and dvd ? === root is now known as Guest40594 [06:30] someone here? [06:30] anyone can help ? === zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn [06:35] NightCore: the dvd has more packages [06:35] its sometimes useful especially when you do not have internet :P [06:35] ok.. if i have windows 7 and want install kubuntu [06:35] it also allows for the text installer [06:36] i need open a new hard drive ? [06:36] so if you want to do encrypted LVM it can be handy [06:36] NightCore: you can partition it i guess. [06:36] you may need to resize windows though [06:36] backup your stuff before you do that. [06:36] i want a both [06:36] should always backup before formatting or partitioning [06:37] yes you can have both on the same disk, if you partition the disk [06:37] ok.. how i multiboot ? [06:37] yeah grub will pickup windows once it is installed and then you will get a menu that allows you to choose either operating system [06:38] ok thanks.. i need to install drivers in liunux ? [06:38] probably only your nvidia one [06:39] there is icq and msn for linux ? [06:42] yeah there are clients for this either pidgin or kopete [06:42] are good choices. [06:43] they come shipped with the desktop environment [06:43] ok.. sorry about al the questions [06:43] how i install nvidia driver ? [06:43] NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-260.19.12.run [06:43] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia [06:43] i'd use the wiki's method [06:43] not from the NV website [06:44] it should automatically ask you if you want it actually [06:45] in recent versions of ubuntu it does that === Kalidarn is now known as zz_Kalidarn === firephoto_ is now known as firephoto === zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn === Kalidarn is now known as zz_Kalidarn [07:56] Hi. anybody know about plasma netbook? [07:56] i'm trying to set some keyboard shortcuts [08:00] hi. I have kubuntu 10.10, I installed ATI proprietary driver, and was unable to turn on windows effects, then I uninstalled that driver, but still I'm unable to turn on these effects. WHY? :( === zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn [08:04] hi. I have kubuntu 10.10, I installed ATI proprietary driver, and was unable to turn on windows effects, then I uninstalled that driver, but still I'm unable to turn on these effects. WHY? :( [08:06] hi, is there a command line tool that lets me send email with attachments? [08:18] Hi all [08:28] hey.... sup. [08:58] naftilos76, http://www.shelldorado.com/articles/mailattachments.html [09:04] hi, how do I report a bug? [09:04] it made kubuntu almost unusable [09:05] !bug | alesan [09:05] alesan: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [09:06] well this bug is when I suspend the laptop [09:06] I do not know which package it is [09:06] kde maybe? [09:06] or maybe the kernel [09:07] ubuntu-bug [09:07] !ubuntu-bug [09:07] mh it doesn't work... [09:08] prolly best to see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs [09:18] are you German? [09:18] Tm_T, ^^^ [09:51] hello, is there a way/commans to share a folder without editing in smb.conf? [09:54] "I think" the samba server reads the .conf at start so needs a restart to reread settings [09:56] umm... ok so u mean there is no Single Command to share files/folder? [09:57] nafri: system-config-samba is a gui version that may help [09:59] I need help with k9copy. What does rip and encode do? [09:59] i'm not familiar with k9copy sresu... [09:59] sresu, rip it to an iso [10:00] bazhang: It creates different iso for every title. I want single file for all titles in it. Possible? [10:00] *different .avi [10:00] sresu, dvd? what are you trying to do [10:01] bazhang: Yes, DVD. I'm trying to make single .avi from all titles in DVD.. [10:02] sresu, to watch on a dvd player? [10:03] bazhang: The problem is that - its copyright protected. My colleagues use windows which promps a software from the DVD to run it on pc. Else on DVD player it runs fine. If I'm right I can play the DVD on Linux if I make some changes with k9copy... [10:04] bazhang: Or what should be the approach? [10:04] sresu, you need libdvdcss2 from medibuntu .org [10:05] bazhang: Yes I have it [10:06] sresu, to join all the avi together for a single watchable dvd? or to rip the dvd to one big avi? [10:06] bazhang: I've it installed. Should I install kubuntu-restricted extras as well? [10:06] sresu, if the latter why not handbrake [10:06] sresu, yes [10:06] bazhang: Later.. [10:06] bazhang: No, I never tried handbrake [10:06] sresu, the latter, not later [10:07] ya latter* [10:07] bazhang: Hold on.. [10:08] sresu, try installing kubuntu-restricted-extras first. a more comprehensive solution is to use handbrake and make a watchable form [10:09] bazhang: All right. I'll install kubuntu-restricted-extras package and try handbrake. Is it not possible with k9copy? [10:09] sresu, first try with only kubuntu-restricted-extras , if that does not work, then use handbrake [10:10] k9copy is just a back up solution as far as I know [10:10] bazhang: Umm.. ok. I'll try what you suggested and get back. Thanks [10:11] sresu, welcome [10:15] bazhang: Thanks. It worked :) [10:15] bazhang: Is it possible that I make a copy of it as well? [10:16] sresu, yes [10:16] bazhang: Using handbrake? [10:16] sresu, an iso copy of the dvd using k9copy? or something different [10:16] bazhang: handbrake is not part of package manager if I'm right [10:17] bazhang: A single media file for whole DVD.. [10:17] sresu, handbrake then [10:18] bazhang: If not single, two would do as it asks for selection for scenes, play etc.. [10:18] bazhang: Is there a variant of handbrake in package manager? Its a trancoder right? [10:21] bazhang: Got it. I'm following this https://edge.launchpad.net/~stebbins/+archive/handbrake-snapshots. Thanks [10:22] sresu, welcome [10:58] anyone using ltsp with kubuntu 10.10? any regression? [11:05] markit: regression,...compiz doesn't stay activated after a re-boot with 64bitver. [11:05] i regressed back to 10.04 [11:06] i can't stand these typical flaws in system design. [11:06] regression on basic functionality are really scaring [11:06] it's frustrating that we act like windows,... well hell we'll fix it later,... ??? [11:06] I don't use compiz, but I'm too scared to upgrade [11:07] maybe I'd better test in a VM [11:07] oh, please dont aggree with me... please. [11:07] :) [11:07] i cant take it [11:07] ithese 'distros' [11:08] when are we gonna find a brilliant out off the spin sanctioned. [11:09] i see .... eh, what'll it be... it's not what it's become. [11:37] hello [11:39] KDE and groupware... i read a lot about that, but what about the compatible server? Can the KDE client connect to Collabtive, and other groupware not so famous as Kolab? [11:45] hey [11:49] are all packaged kubuntu kde apps modified to use the Window Menubar plasmoid or should it work on other distros? [11:50] IIRC there shouldn't be any modification, it should work as is [11:51] ok i tried compiling it for jaunty and it didnt seem to be doing anything [11:53] chiiiiiz: yes [11:53] ratweed: you tried compiling what? [11:53] compiled Window Menubar plasmoid [11:53] against upstream KDE sources [11:55] ratweed: unfortunately I don't know much of it, try asking in #plasma or instance [11:55] I tried Collabtive, can't have Redmine working ... I must add that my start point was a project Management server including larger groupware features... I will be involved in a factory building, and I would like to show there are no needs of MS products... But I need simple solutions as far clients (non *ubuntu users so far) are concerned [11:56] ok well i'm pretty sure the plasmoid itself is part of Ubuntu. thanks though [11:57] I must also add that *ubuntu is not mandatory, a OpenSuse might do it also ... I am a *ubuntu fan (tried all the flavours), and I want o push it in that direction... [12:05] does anyone know about a channel dedicated to opensources groupwares? [12:05] chiiiiiz: #kde-pim? [12:05] Ok, I'll give it a try. Thanks === petr is now known as dddd === dddd is now known as dddddfdf [12:30] 2552 root 20 0 7416 4852 596 D 2.0 0.3 0:26.68 mount.ntfs [12:30] 2.0 % CPU under "mount.ntfs" ? WTF? [12:31] 2 minuts was this [13:00] sss [13:00] waffen ss [13:01] dddddfdf, thats not appropriate for here please stop it [13:01] for what? [13:01] bazhang please andwer [13:01] dddddfdf, this is kubuntu support only. [13:01] dddddfdf, please follow the channel policy and guidelines [13:02] !guidelines | dddddfdf [13:02] dddddfdf: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [13:02] and there is [13:02] !wtf [13:02] Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [13:02] bazhang OMG [13:02] bazhang stop it! [13:02] ubottu WTF? [13:02] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [13:28] is there a good video converter to convert videos to 3gp format [13:31] handbrake used to have presets for that sort of stuff - I haven't seen it lately tho [13:31] moetunes:i think handbrake is gone [13:32] oh [13:33] phoenix_, to 3gp or from it? [13:33] phoenix_: avidemux gets mentioned a bit [13:33] bazhang: to 3gp [13:33] phoenix_, there are handbrake PPA about (totally at your own risk of course) [13:33] moetunes: i will check that [13:34] bazhang: anything without risk? [13:34] or simply use ffmpeg [13:34] bazhang: any frontend [13:34] phoenix_, for handbrake? there is the cli version and the gui-y one as well [13:35] bazhang: i mean to ffmpeg, winff is not good [13:35] phoenix_, winff is for mencoder? [13:35] bazhang: oh [13:35] avi to 3gp? [13:36] bazhang: ya [13:37] http://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2007/02/13/convert-avi-to-3gp-using-ffmpeg/ [13:41] bazhang: no details are given for the parameters. [13:42] Hello all! Is there "an esay way" to add most common IRC servers to kubuntu (or just to Konversation)? [13:42] “-acodec aac” is the significant option here. This only gives excellent audio to the 3gp file in mobile phones. phoenix_ [13:43] bazhang: how to resize the video [13:44] phoenix_, you mean the resolution? the size in MB? [13:44] bazhang: resolutin [13:45] phoenix_, no idea; there are a number of other links using the terms 'ffmpeg avi 3gp ' which you may want to investigate [13:46] bazhang: ok, i will try to find === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:48] hello ,everyone === mike is now known as Guest84997 [13:48] let me have a try . [13:48] hy [13:48] Hello all! Is there "an esay way" to add most common IRC servers to kubuntu (or just to Konversation)? [13:49] ynanm, are they not in the server list by default? not used konversation for a while so cannot remember clearly [13:49] may be ,but i can't see any more === Jay is now known as Guest42724 [13:50] hello :> does anyone else here use dosbox in maverick? in gnome i've had no problems with it, but in kde i don't get any mouse movement in games...sometimes it resolves itself if i restart x, but that's not really ideal :> [13:52] bazhang, nope, every program only has this server and this channel... [13:52] ynanm, what version of kubuntu? I thought quassel was the default client now [13:52] moetunes: avidemux crashes when i try to convert a video [13:53] phoenix_: I didnt make it ... :] [13:53] phoenix_: if you run it from terminal you can see any errors [13:54] moetunes: bazhang suggested to use ffmpeg do you know any frontends for it [13:54] phoenix_, if you want something with a gui then handbrake is what you should probably go for [13:54] phoenix_: avidemux is one... [13:54] moetunes: the app showed the error message. but its to techinical [13:55] bazhang, I tried that one... but it had only this one, so I was trying some other... [13:55] heh [13:55] welll I will just add some manually... [13:55] bazhang: is handbrake available in normal repos [13:55] bazhang, thanks! [13:55] ynanm, sorry not to have used konvy for so long/ or be of any help [13:56] phoenix_, nope just PPA for now [13:56] bazhang, no woories, I think I've got it [13:56] ;-) [13:56] bazhang: ok [13:57] phoenix_: is the error about not having a lib ? [13:58] moetunes: 1 min [14:01] moetunes: http://imagebin.org/120923 [14:01] k [14:03] phoenix_: did you get errors building avidemux? [14:03] moetunes: i installed from the normal repos [14:03] k [14:04] phoenix_: looks like it is missing something to read the file - baz gave a link to a command line option earlier did that work ? [14:05] moetunes: the ffmpeg one? [14:05] yep [14:06] moetunes: i am trying that with the winff frontend [14:08] phoenix_: I found out early on that you get more options from the command line - if it won't work there you have no hope with a frontend [14:08] Hi! I have a problem with kate that didn't exist in 10.04 AFAIK: If I search for "\n" and replace it with ",", Kate replaces everything with withespace and appends a "," at the end of the line (in Regex and "Escape Sequence" mode). Can somebody reproduce this? [14:09] what I want Kate to do is replace newlines with commas, so that a newline-separated list becomes a coma-separated one [14:10] I've noticed a couple of ppl have had issues with kate [14:10] moetunes: i am looking at ffmpeg command line option. what bazhang gave me will be enought except that it is missing the video resize option [14:11] phoenix_: for ffmpeg to resize give the -s 340x210 or whatever size option [14:11] to bad, it's such a good editor [14:11] moetunes: ok i will try that [14:16] okay, seriously.. should i uninstall pulseaudio? [14:16] I did [14:17] feeling better ever since? [14:17] 5.1 suroound sound? [14:17] yup [14:17] A crapload better [14:17] that's all the motivation i needed :) [14:17] Know of more people that did this [14:17] aptitude purge pulseaudio or anything more? [14:17] I just did apt-get remove pulseaudio [14:18] okay [14:18] yours will work 2 [14:18] piquadrat: I cannot replicate that problem here: kde 4.52 kate: 3.5.2 [14:19] elimental: thanks then :) [14:20] yw Machtin [14:22] feeling better now, too :> [14:29] James147: I've got 4.5.1 and 3.5.1, respectively. Perhaps they've fixed it on 3.5.2. I'll update and try again. Thanks! [14:29] whats going on fellow kubuntu users :) [14:30] James147: do you have 3.5.2 from a ppa? [14:31] piquadrat: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.5.2 [14:31] howdy folks [14:32] howdy BluesKaj [14:32] hi sithlord48, James147 [14:34] ne one here use unity? [14:35] sithlord48: thats offtopic for this channel [14:35] does it still use gtk programs ? [14:35] jussi: yes, i suspose it is.... [14:35] sithlord48: unity support in #ubuntu and discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic [14:39] James147: Thanks, I'll give it a try [14:52] on maverick, Desktop Effects are always suspended when I start Kubuntu [14:53] EagleScreen: do they work when u enable them? [14:53] yes they work [14:53] EagleScreen: you can try selected disable checks on the advanced tab, that seams to work on my ati macines.. [14:55] Disbale functionality cheks is unmarked [14:56] check it [14:57] ok [14:58] try it that way they should no longer be suspended on login [15:00] hi guys :) [15:01] they are now enabled [15:01] awesome :) [15:03] I'm having sound problems - alsa is installed, but i don't have a /proc/asound directory :( [15:05] can anyone help me? [15:06] jcgs, look in media in system settings [15:07] err multimedia , actually [15:07] BluesKaj: internal audio analogue stereo is greyed out [15:08] BluesKaj: I can only choose Dummy audio output :( and that doesn't work [15:08] jcgs, is you card listed in alsamixer [15:10] BluesKaj: cannot open mixer: no such file or directory [15:11] James147: I installed 4.5.2 and my Regex problem in Kate is fixed. Thanks for the hint! [15:11] jcgs, open a terminal and type alsamixer [15:12] BluesKaj: I did, and that's what i said [15:12] jcgs, then sudo apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils [15:13] Hi, my Xorg process is 105Mb, its normal? [15:15] ori, depends what you have running graphicially [15:15] only plasma-desktop, when I start my kde sesion [15:16] BluesKaj: they're both installed -- i would prove it, but pastebin won't let me, it thinks i'm a spammer :( [15:16] plasma-desktop is 95Mb in memory, I think its so memory, why? [15:18] jcgs, and if you type alsamixer in the terminal you get no such file or directory ? [15:19] BluesKaj: no that's not what happens, I know alsamixer is there, it just writes "mixer: no such file or directory" to standard error for some reason [15:19] jcgs, cat /proc/asound/cards in the terminal [15:20] BluesKaj: /proc/asound doesn't exist === elcuco is now known as cuco [15:20] does anyonw know why pastebin mught hate me? [15:20] *might [15:21] skype video fails in kde, but works great in gnome. Any idea why that happens? [15:22] jcgs, and what about , lspci | grep -i audio , or lsmod | grep snd [15:23] lspci gives 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) [15:23] I think you have the intelhd audio problem , it's quite common [15:23] lsmod gives nothing [15:23] !intelhda [15:23] For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto [15:25] BluesKaj: how do i find out the model? [15:26] Intel Corporation 82801. jcgs [15:27] lspci [15:28] that isn't on the list at http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sound/alsa/HD-Audio-Models.txt [15:28] is that problematic? [15:29] jcgs, as long as it it's in the ICH8 Family , then it should work [15:31] BluesKaj: yeah it is, do i need some other sort of number? like ALC280 or something? that's what I need to look up i think [15:33] BluesKaj: also I don't have a line starting with options snd-hda-intel :( [15:33] jcgs, the tutorial is pretty clear , just follow the instructions for your computer brand [15:35] sBluesKaj: The first thing it says to do is run cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* which doesn't exist :( [15:36] BluesKaj: I don't have a /proc/asound directory :( [15:38] BluesKaj: thanks anyway :) [15:45] Hi all [15:46] How do I make the desktop effects defaultly enabled at startup? [15:47] MadRobot: are you using 10.10 64 bit by perchance? [15:47] collabra: nope [15:48] well,... 10.10 32? 10.04 lts 64 or 32 bit? [15:48] 10.10 32 [15:48] open system settings from kmenu, under workspace appereance and behaviour go into desktop effects and check off 'enable desktop effects' [15:49] sounds like 32 bit has the same problem i encountered with 64 bit 10.10 [15:51] kyubutsu: it will be enabled by default at startup this way? [15:51] yeah,... should,... MadRobot [15:51] collabra: I see. [15:51] collabra, kyubutsu: Thanks a lot. :) [15:53] has anyone heard of compiz not loading on login witn 10.10 64 bit or 32? [16:18] is there an oscilloscope program i can use to read the alsamixer/pulseaudio output [16:18] I think I was reading about having to recompile it last night while I was searching out how to fix the scroll bar problem on chromium browser again [16:23] I'm using kubuntu amd64 dvd 10.10 [16:25] why does sound out heard soo bad when playing mp3s? anything could go wrong with my system? or my installation? [16:26] well.. kubuntu moved to a new sound layer [16:26] and so it is barely functional [16:27] kyubutsu, just asked about whether there was an oscilloscope program to monitor outputs, that would be a helpful tool for debugging what's going on [16:27] currently I'm pretty down on using kubuntu for anything sound related like ham radio or audio [16:28] things will get better over time [16:28] i'm using asus p5q motherboard with 2 speakers, sometimes 4. how to configure it? [16:28] and hopefully these things will be addressed well [16:30] so sound things take a lot of dedication and patience [16:30] i dont have sound issues.. in fact am kind of surprised pulseaudio works so well under kubuntu [16:30] it doesn't for me [16:31] i just wanted oscilloscope to check on some stream metrics [16:31] :( [16:32] alsamixer used to have a meter , i dont recall how to bring it up on interface [16:33] how to install pulse audio on kubuntu? how to remove alsa driver? [16:34] kubuntu 10.10 already comes with all that , you shouldnt need installing anything [16:36] ya, if things are not working it is more likely the laptop audio device not really kubuntu [16:37] i have ever tried to install my motboard sound driver, but later i've got no more idea with no sound out. I just can reinstall my system all over again. what do i need to do to enchance my sound? [16:37] kubuntu uses phonon, that's the new part I was talking about [16:38] so now we have alsa and pulseaudio and phonon all trying to capture the devices [16:38] it makes for a bit of a mess some times [16:39] there were added problems like Adobe not wanting to release a 64bit flash player so sound was failing for quite a while in 10.04 when you went to youtube if you could get any flash video to work at all [16:39] so everything does change for the better it just takes some elbow grease === Kalidarn is now known as zz_Kalidarn [16:40] what's phonon use for? is it a driver? [16:40] these types of technological evolutions happen all the time every few years the transition hasn't really been modeled that well so there are times when no safety net is there for basic things like just wanting to play music === zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn [16:41] phonon is like alsa and pulseaudio [16:41] it is a new audio device layer [16:41] a way to manage requests to the sound card [16:41] these days we need audio into stuff like Wine so they have to make virtual cards [16:41] it gets complex [16:42] everything always gets more complex :-) [16:42] getting difficult? [16:43] !phonon [16:43] !info phonon [16:43] phonon (source: phonon): metapackage for the Phonon multimedia framework. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.7.0really4.4.2-0ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 9 kB, installed size 68 kB [16:51] how to configure phonon? [16:54] !audio | eksunoz [16:54] eksunoz: If you're having problems with sound see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [16:56] Hi [16:56] now, the phonon api is in System Settings > multimedia if you still want to have a look [16:59] kyubutsu. i see === Kalidarn is now known as zz_Kalidarn [17:04] can knetworkmanager use the wext driver to connect to wpa-wireless? how can i change from ndiswrapper to wext? [17:04] but how to configure, such as adding annother output device? [17:06] FrauHansen,which wifi chip do you have ? [17:08] Netgear WPN111 using the ndiswrapper driver. It's working with wpa_supplicant (wext). But knetworkmanager showed driver: ndiswrapper and didn't give the option to use wpa, only wep. [17:10] eksunoz: Phonon is not designed to have every conceivable multimedia feature, but rather as a simple way to perform common functions of media players. Developers that require more control over a backend than Phonon can provide are recommended to use the native API or the GStreamer API on systems for which it's available === matteo__ is now known as checkmate [17:11] BluesKaj: the wiki says it's an Atheros chip. [17:11] i think that pretty much means you dont [17:12] hi [17:12] BluesKaj: lsusb: ID 1385:5f01 Netgear, Inc WPN111 [17:12]