[00:00] <apparle> viliny_: how is t?
[00:00] <apparle> viliny_: N900?
[00:04] <Sir_Konrad> Ok, so I just installed Ubuntu 10.04 on my machine, and I'd like to install KDE. Is there any way to install KDE3 from a Kubuntu 10.04 (KDE3 Respin) CD?
[00:05] <Kalidarn> why KDE3?
[00:05] <Sir_Konrad> Kalidarn, because I hate KDE4.
[00:06] <Kalidarn> what do you hate about it
[00:06] <Sir_Konrad> Kalidarn, so and very Windows Vistaish. The steps should be the same as installing KDE4 from a Kubuntu CD.
[00:06] <Sir_Konrad> *slow
[00:07] <Kalidarn> it depends on if your distributor supplies packages
[00:07] <Kalidarn> im not even sure if ubuntu supply kde3 anymore
[00:07] <Kalidarn> i don't think anyone really uses it anymore
[00:07] <Kalidarn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Kde3/Lucid that might be what you are after though
[00:08] <Sir_Konrad> Kalidarn, I have Kubuntu 10.04 KDE3 Respin, but I was wondering how to install it onto a Ubuntu install from a CD>
[00:08] <Sir_Konrad> Like getting the .deb files.
[00:10] <bazhang> Sir_Konrad, that would be from a PPA, nothing for Maverick yet, and completely unsupported (ie 100% at your own risk)
[00:10] <Sir_Konrad> Right bazhang. :)
[00:10] <bazhang> kde3.5maintainers PPA
[00:11] <bazhang> err -maintainers
[00:15] <Sir_Konrad> Heck, I'll just get KDE 4.
[00:18] <kim3> I'm using kubuntu & kde desktop. Whenever I click a button in a gtk application (such as gimp) it makes a sound. How can I disable gtk button sounds?
[00:41] <kim3> I've looked through the kde gnome settings, but I can't find anything there which will silence qt buttons.
[00:45] <Torch> the "kde gnome settings"?
[00:45] <kim3> kde settings, and the separate gnome settings
[01:57] <Judax> Greets
[04:31] <johann> Is anybody there?
[04:56] <K350> I've made my own plymouth theme. It works fine with the plymouth deamon  - plymouthd - under X. But not so well - or at all somehtimes - when I boot. Anyone?
[05:11] <samo_> hi
[05:12] <samo_> helooooo
[05:13] <samo_> any one
[05:13] <samo_> ?
[05:40] <x_> hmm
[06:11] <NightCore> hey.. whats the different between cd version and dvd ?
[06:30] <NightCore> someone here?
[06:30] <NightCore> anyone can help ?
[06:35] <Kalidarn> NightCore: the dvd has more packages
[06:35] <Kalidarn> its sometimes useful especially when you do not have internet :P
[06:35] <NightCore> ok.. if i have windows 7 and want install kubuntu
[06:35] <Kalidarn> it also allows for the text installer
[06:36] <NightCore> i need open a new hard drive ?
[06:36] <Kalidarn> so if you want to do encrypted LVM it can be handy
[06:36] <Kalidarn> NightCore: you can partition it i guess.
[06:36] <Kalidarn> you may need to resize windows though
[06:36] <Kalidarn> backup your stuff before you do that.
[06:36] <NightCore> i want a both
[06:36] <Kalidarn> should always backup before formatting or partitioning
[06:37] <Kalidarn> yes you can have both on the same disk, if you partition the disk
[06:37] <NightCore> ok.. how i multiboot ?
[06:37] <Kalidarn> yeah grub will pickup windows once it is installed and then you will get a menu that allows you to choose either operating system
[06:38] <NightCore> ok thanks.. i need to install drivers in liunux ?
[06:38] <Kalidarn> probably only your nvidia one
[06:39] <NightCore> there is icq and msn for linux ?
[06:42] <Kalidarn> yeah there are clients for this either pidgin or kopete
[06:42] <Kalidarn> are good choices.
[06:43] <Kalidarn> they come shipped with the desktop environment
[06:43] <NightCore> ok.. sorry about al the questions
[06:43] <NightCore> how i install nvidia driver ?
[06:43] <NightCore> NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-260.19.12.run
[06:43] <Kalidarn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:43] <Kalidarn> i'd use the wiki's method
[06:43] <Kalidarn> not from the NV website
[06:44] <Kalidarn> it should automatically ask you if you want it actually
[06:45] <Kalidarn> in recent versions of ubuntu it does that
[07:56] <anthony__> Hi.  anybody know about plasma netbook?
[07:56] <anthony__> i'm trying to set some keyboard shortcuts
[08:00] <bogusz> hi. I have kubuntu 10.10, I installed ATI proprietary driver, and was unable to turn on windows effects, then I uninstalled that driver, but still I'm unable to turn on these effects. WHY? :(
[08:04] <bogusz> hi. I have kubuntu 10.10, I installed ATI proprietary driver, and was unable to turn on windows effects, then I uninstalled that driver, but still I'm unable to turn on these effects. WHY? :(
[08:06] <naftilos76> hi, is there a command line tool that lets me send email with attachments?
[08:18] <MadRobot> Hi all
[08:28] <collabra> hey.... sup.
[08:58] <urgen> naftilos76, http://www.shelldorado.com/articles/mailattachments.html
[09:04] <alesan> hi, how do I report a bug?
[09:04] <alesan> it made kubuntu almost unusable
[09:05] <Tm_T> !bug | alesan
[09:06] <alesan> well this bug is when I suspend the laptop
[09:06] <alesan> I do not know which package it is
[09:06] <alesan> kde maybe?
[09:06] <alesan> or maybe the kernel
[09:07] <alesan> ubuntu-bug <kernel>
[09:07] <alesan> !ubuntu-bug <kernel>
[09:07] <alesan> mh it doesn't work...
[09:08] <Tm_T> prolly best to see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[09:18] <alesan> are you German?
[09:18] <alesan> Tm_T, ^^^
[09:51] <nafri> hello, is there a way/commans to share a folder without editing in smb.conf?
[09:54] <moetunes> "I think" the samba server reads the .conf at start so needs a restart to reread settings
[09:56] <nafri> umm... ok so u mean there is no Single Command to share files/folder?
[09:57] <collabra> nafri: system-config-samba is a gui version that may help
[09:59] <sresu> I need help with k9copy. What does rip and encode do?
[09:59] <collabra> i'm not familiar with k9copy sresu...
[09:59] <bazhang> sresu, rip it to an iso
[10:00] <sresu> bazhang: It creates different iso for every title. I want single file for all titles in it. Possible?
[10:00] <sresu> *different .avi
[10:00] <bazhang> sresu, dvd? what are you trying to do
[10:01] <sresu> bazhang: Yes, DVD. I'm trying to make single .avi from all titles in DVD..
[10:02] <bazhang> sresu, to watch on a dvd player?
[10:03] <sresu> bazhang: The problem is that - its copyright protected. My colleagues use windows which promps a software from the DVD to run it on pc. Else on DVD player it runs fine. If I'm right I can play the DVD on Linux if I make some changes with k9copy...
[10:04] <sresu> bazhang: Or what should be the approach?
[10:04] <bazhang> sresu, you need libdvdcss2 from medibuntu .org
[10:05] <sresu> bazhang: Yes I have it
[10:06] <bazhang> sresu, to join all the avi together for a single watchable dvd? or to rip the dvd to one big avi?
[10:06] <sresu> bazhang: I've it installed. Should I install kubuntu-restricted extras as well?
[10:06] <bazhang> sresu, if the latter why not handbrake
[10:06] <bazhang> sresu, yes
[10:06] <sresu> bazhang: Later..
[10:06] <sresu> bazhang: No, I never tried handbrake
[10:06] <bazhang> sresu, the latter, not later
[10:07] <sresu> ya latter*
[10:07] <sresu> bazhang: Hold on..
[10:08] <bazhang> sresu, try installing kubuntu-restricted-extras first. a more comprehensive solution is to use handbrake and make a watchable form
[10:09] <sresu> bazhang: All right. I'll install kubuntu-restricted-extras package and try handbrake. Is it not possible with k9copy?
[10:09] <bazhang> sresu, first try with only kubuntu-restricted-extras , if that does not work, then use handbrake
[10:10] <bazhang> k9copy is just a back up solution as far as I know
[10:10] <sresu> bazhang: Umm.. ok. I'll try what you suggested and get back. Thanks
[10:11] <bazhang> sresu, welcome
[10:15] <sresu> bazhang: Thanks. It worked :)
[10:15] <sresu> bazhang: Is it possible that I make a copy of it as well?
[10:16] <bazhang> sresu, yes
[10:16] <sresu> bazhang: Using handbrake?
[10:16] <bazhang> sresu, an iso copy of the dvd using k9copy? or something different
[10:16] <sresu> bazhang: handbrake is not part of package manager if I'm right
[10:17] <sresu> bazhang: A single media file for whole DVD..
[10:17] <bazhang> sresu, handbrake then
[10:18] <sresu> bazhang: If not single, two would do as it asks for selection for scenes, play etc..
[10:18] <sresu> bazhang: Is there a variant of handbrake in package manager? Its a trancoder right?
[10:21] <sresu> bazhang: Got it. I'm following this https://edge.launchpad.net/~stebbins/+archive/handbrake-snapshots. Thanks
[10:22] <bazhang> sresu, welcome
[10:58] <markit> anyone using ltsp with kubuntu 10.10? any regression?
[11:05] <collabra> markit: regression,...compiz doesn't stay activated after a re-boot with 64bitver.
[11:05] <collabra> i regressed back to 10.04
[11:06] <collabra> i can't stand these typical flaws in system design.
[11:06] <markit> regression on basic functionality are really scaring
[11:06] <collabra> it's frustrating that we act like windows,... well hell we'll fix it later,... ???
[11:06] <markit> I don't use compiz, but I'm too scared to upgrade
[11:07] <markit> maybe I'd better test in a VM
[11:07] <collabra> oh, please dont aggree with me... please.
[11:07] <markit> :)
[11:07] <collabra> i cant take it
[11:07] <collabra> ithese 'distros'
[11:08] <collabra> when are we gonna find a brilliant out off the spin sanctioned.
[11:09] <collabra> i see .... eh, what'll it be... it's not what it's become.
[11:37] <chiiiiiz> hello
[11:39] <chiiiiiz> KDE and groupware... i read a lot about that, but what about the compatible server? Can the KDE client connect to Collabtive, and other groupware not so famous as Kolab?
[11:45] <beaver74_> hey
[11:49] <ratweed> are all packaged kubuntu kde apps modified to use the Window Menubar plasmoid or should it work on other distros?
[11:50] <Tm_T> IIRC there shouldn't be any modification, it should work as is
[11:51] <ratweed> ok i tried compiling it for jaunty and it didnt seem to be doing anything
[11:53] <Tm_T> chiiiiiz: yes
[11:53] <Tm_T> ratweed: you tried compiling what?
[11:53] <ratweed> compiled Window Menubar plasmoid
[11:53] <ratweed> against upstream KDE sources
[11:55] <Tm_T> ratweed: unfortunately I don't know much of it, try asking in #plasma or instance
[11:55] <chiiiiiz> I tried Collabtive, can't have Redmine working ... I must add that my start point was a project Management server including larger groupware features... I will be involved in a factory building, and I would like to show there are no needs of MS products... But I need simple solutions as far clients (non *ubuntu users so far) are concerned
[11:56] <ratweed> ok well i'm pretty sure the plasmoid itself is part of Ubuntu. thanks though
[11:57] <chiiiiiz> I must also add that *ubuntu is not mandatory, a OpenSuse might do it also ... I am a *ubuntu fan (tried all the flavours), and I want o push it in that direction...
[12:05] <chiiiiiz> does anyone know about a channel dedicated to opensources groupwares?
[12:05] <Mamarok> chiiiiiz: #kde-pim?
[12:05] <chiiiiiz> Ok, I'll give it a  try. Thanks
[12:30] <dddddfdf>  2552 root      20   0  7416 4852  596 D  2.0  0.3   0:26.68 mount.ntfs
[12:30] <dddddfdf> 2.0 % CPU   under  "mount.ntfs"  ?  WTF?
[12:31] <dddddfdf> 2 minuts was this
[13:00] <dddddfdf> sss
[13:00] <dddddfdf> waffen ss
[13:01] <bazhang> dddddfdf, thats not appropriate for here please stop it
[13:01] <dddddfdf> for what?
[13:01] <dddddfdf> bazhang please andwer
[13:01] <bazhang> dddddfdf, this is kubuntu support only.
[13:01] <bazhang> dddddfdf, please follow the channel policy and guidelines
[13:02] <bazhang> !guidelines | dddddfdf
[13:02] <moetunes> and there is
[13:02] <moetunes> !wtf
[13:02] <dddddfdf> bazhang OMG
[13:02] <dddddfdf> bazhang stop it!
[13:02] <dddddfdf> ubottu WTF?
[13:28] <phoenix_> is there a good video converter to convert videos to 3gp format
[13:31] <moetunes> handbrake used to have presets for that sort of stuff - I haven't seen it lately tho
[13:31] <phoenix_> moetunes:i think handbrake is gone
[13:32] <moetunes> oh
[13:33] <bazhang> phoenix_, to 3gp or from it?
[13:33] <moetunes> phoenix_:  avidemux gets mentioned a bit
[13:33] <phoenix_> bazhang: to 3gp
[13:33] <bazhang> phoenix_, there are handbrake PPA about (totally at your own risk of course)
[13:33] <phoenix_> moetunes: i will check that
[13:34] <phoenix_> bazhang: anything without risk?
[13:34] <bazhang> or simply use ffmpeg
[13:34] <phoenix_> bazhang: any frontend
[13:34] <bazhang> phoenix_, for handbrake? there is the cli version and the gui-y one as well
[13:35] <phoenix_> bazhang: i mean to ffmpeg, winff is not good
[13:35] <bazhang> phoenix_, winff is for mencoder?
[13:35] <phoenix_> bazhang: oh
[13:35] <bazhang> avi to 3gp?
[13:36] <phoenix_> bazhang: ya
[13:37] <bazhang> http://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2007/02/13/convert-avi-to-3gp-using-ffmpeg/
[13:41] <phoenix_> bazhang: no details are given for the parameters.
[13:42] <ynanm> Hello all! Is there "an esay way" to add most common IRC servers to kubuntu (or just to Konversation)?
[13:42] <bazhang> “-acodec aac” is the significant option here. This only gives excellent audio to the 3gp file in mobile phones. phoenix_
[13:43] <phoenix_> bazhang: how to resize the video
[13:44] <bazhang> phoenix_, you mean the resolution? the size in MB?
[13:44] <phoenix_> bazhang: resolutin
[13:45] <bazhang> phoenix_, no idea; there are a number of other links using the terms 'ffmpeg avi 3gp ' which you may want to investigate
[13:46] <phoenix_> bazhang: ok, i will try to find
[13:48] <zerocool> hello ,everyone
[13:48] <zerocool> let me have a try .
[13:48] <ynanm> hy
[13:48] <ynanm> Hello all! Is there "an esay way" to add most common IRC servers to kubuntu (or just to Konversation)?
[13:49] <bazhang> ynanm, are they not in the server list by default? not used konversation for a while so cannot remember clearly
[13:49] <zerocool> may be ,but i can't see any more
[13:50] <prower> hello :> does anyone else here use dosbox in maverick? in gnome i've had no problems with it, but in kde i don't get any mouse movement in games...sometimes it resolves itself if i restart x, but that's not really ideal :>
[13:52] <ynanm> bazhang, nope, every program only has this server and this channel...
[13:52] <bazhang> ynanm, what version of kubuntu? I thought quassel was the default client now
[13:52] <phoenix_> moetunes: avidemux crashes when i try to convert a video
[13:53] <moetunes> phoenix_:  I didnt make it ... :]
[13:53] <moetunes> phoenix_:  if you run it from terminal you can see any errors
[13:54] <phoenix_> moetunes: bazhang suggested to use ffmpeg do you know any frontends for it
[13:54] <bazhang> phoenix_, if you want something with a gui then handbrake is what you should probably go for
[13:54] <moetunes> phoenix_:  avidemux is one...
[13:54] <phoenix_> moetunes: the app showed the error message. but its to techinical
[13:55] <ynanm> bazhang, I tried that one... but it had only this one, so I was trying some other...
[13:55] <moetunes> heh
[13:55] <ynanm> welll I will just add some manually...
[13:55] <phoenix_> bazhang: is handbrake available in normal repos
[13:55] <ynanm> bazhang, thanks!
[13:55] <bazhang> ynanm, sorry not to have used konvy for so long/ or be of any help
[13:56] <bazhang> phoenix_, nope just PPA for now
[13:56] <ynanm> bazhang, no woories, I think I've got it
[13:56] <ynanm> ;-)
[13:56] <phoenix_> bazhang: ok
[13:57] <moetunes> phoenix_:  is the error about not having a lib ?
[13:58] <phoenix_> moetunes: 1 min
[14:01] <phoenix_> moetunes: http://imagebin.org/120923
[14:01] <moetunes> k
[14:03] <moetunes> phoenix_:  did you get errors building avidemux?
[14:03] <phoenix_> moetunes: i installed from the normal repos
[14:03] <moetunes> k
[14:04] <moetunes> phoenix_:  looks like it is missing something to read the file - baz gave a link to a command line option earlier did that work ?
[14:05] <phoenix_> moetunes: the ffmpeg one?
[14:05] <moetunes> yep
[14:06] <phoenix_> moetunes: i am trying that with the winff frontend
[14:08] <moetunes> phoenix_:  I found out early on that you get more options from the command line - if it won't work there you have no hope with a frontend
[14:08] <piquadrat> Hi! I have a problem with kate that didn't exist in 10.04 AFAIK: If I search for "\n" and replace it with ",", Kate replaces everything with withespace and appends a "," at the end of the line (in Regex and "Escape Sequence" mode). Can somebody reproduce this?
[14:09] <piquadrat> what I want Kate to do is replace newlines with commas, so that a newline-separated list becomes a coma-separated one
[14:10] <moetunes> I've noticed a couple of ppl have had issues with kate
[14:10] <phoenix_> moetunes: i am looking at ffmpeg command line option. what bazhang gave me will be enought except that it is missing the video resize option
[14:11] <moetunes> phoenix_:  for ffmpeg to resize give the   -s 340x210   or whatever size option
[14:11] <piquadrat> to bad, it's such a good editor
[14:11] <phoenix_> moetunes: ok i will try that
[14:16] <Machtin> okay, seriously.. should i uninstall pulseaudio?
[14:16] <elimental> I did
[14:17] <Machtin> feeling better ever since?
[14:17] <elimental> 5.1 suroound sound?
[14:17] <Machtin> yup
[14:17] <elimental> A crapload better
[14:17] <Machtin> that's all the motivation i needed :)
[14:17] <elimental> Know of more people that did this
[14:17] <Machtin> aptitude purge pulseaudio or anything more?
[14:17] <elimental> I just did apt-get remove pulseaudio
[14:18] <Machtin> okay
[14:18] <elimental> yours will work 2
[14:18] <James147> piquadrat: I cannot replicate that problem here: kde 4.52 kate: 3.5.2
[14:19] <Machtin> elimental: thanks then :)
[14:20] <elimental> yw Machtin
[14:22] <Machtin> feeling better now, too :>
[14:29] <piquadrat> James147: I've got 4.5.1 and 3.5.1, respectively. Perhaps they've fixed it on 3.5.2. I'll update and try again. Thanks!
[14:29] <sithlord48> whats going on fellow kubuntu users :)
[14:30] <piquadrat> James147: do you have 3.5.2 from a ppa?
[14:31] <James147> piquadrat: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.5.2
[14:31] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[14:32] <sithlord48> howdy BluesKaj
[14:32] <BluesKaj> hi sithlord48, James147
[14:34] <sithlord48> ne one here use unity?
[14:35] <jussi> sithlord48: thats offtopic for this channel
[14:35] <sithlord48> does it still use gtk programs ?
[14:35] <sithlord48> jussi: yes, i suspose it is....
[14:35] <jussi> sithlord48: unity support in #ubuntu and discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:39] <piquadrat> James147: Thanks, I'll give it a try
[14:52] <EagleScreen> on maverick, Desktop Effects are always suspended when I start Kubuntu
[14:53] <sithlord48> EagleScreen: do they work when u enable them?
[14:53] <EagleScreen> yes they work
[14:53] <sithlord48> EagleScreen: you can try selected disable checks on the advanced tab, that seams to work on my ati macines..
[14:55] <EagleScreen> Disbale functionality cheks is unmarked
[14:56] <sithlord48> check it
[14:57] <EagleScreen> ok
[14:58] <sithlord48> try it that way they should no longer be suspended on login
[15:00] <jcgs> hi guys :)
[15:01] <EagleScreen> they are now enabled
[15:01] <sithlord48> awesome :)
[15:03] <jcgs> I'm having sound problems - alsa is installed, but i don't have a /proc/asound directory :(
[15:05] <jcgs> can anyone help me?
[15:06] <BluesKaj> jcgs, look in media in system settings
[15:07] <BluesKaj> err multimedia , actually
[15:07] <jcgs> BluesKaj: internal audio analogue stereo is greyed out
[15:08] <jcgs> BluesKaj: I can only choose Dummy audio output :( and that doesn't work
[15:08] <BluesKaj> jcgs, is you card listed in alsamixer
[15:10] <jcgs> BluesKaj: cannot open mixer: no such file or directory
[15:11] <piquadrat> James147: I installed 4.5.2 and my Regex problem in Kate is fixed. Thanks for the hint!
[15:11] <BluesKaj> jcgs, open a terminal and type alsamixer
[15:12] <jcgs> BluesKaj: I did, and that's what i said
[15:12] <BluesKaj> jcgs, then sudo apt-get install alsa-base  alsa-utils
[15:13] <ori> Hi, my Xorg process is 105Mb, its normal?
[15:15] <BluesKaj> ori, depends what you have running graphicially
[15:15] <ori> only plasma-desktop, when I start my kde sesion
[15:16] <jcgs> BluesKaj: they're both installed -- i would prove it, but pastebin won't let me, it thinks i'm a spammer :(
[15:16] <ori> plasma-desktop is 95Mb in memory, I think its so memory, why?
[15:18] <BluesKaj> jcgs, and if you type alsamixer in the terminal you get no such file or directory ?
[15:19] <jcgs> BluesKaj: no that's not what happens, I know alsamixer is there, it just writes "mixer: no such file or directory" to standard error for some reason
[15:19] <BluesKaj> jcgs, cat /proc/asound/cards in the terminal
[15:20] <jcgs> BluesKaj: /proc/asound doesn't exist
[15:20] <jcgs> does anyonw know why pastebin mught hate me?
[15:20] <jcgs> *might
[15:21] <snarkster> skype video fails in kde, but works great in gnome. Any idea why that happens?
[15:22] <BluesKaj> jcgs, and what about , lspci | grep -i audio , or  lsmod | grep snd
[15:23] <jcgs> lspci gives 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[15:23] <BluesKaj> I think you have the intelhd audio problem , it's quite common
[15:23] <jcgs> lsmod gives nothing
[15:23] <BluesKaj> !intelhda
[15:25] <jcgs> BluesKaj: how do i find out the model?
[15:26] <BluesKaj>  Intel Corporation 82801. jcgs
[15:27] <kyubutsu> lspci
[15:28] <jcgs> that isn't on the list at http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sound/alsa/HD-Audio-Models.txt
[15:28] <jcgs> is that problematic?
[15:29] <BluesKaj> jcgs, as long as it it's in the ICH8 Family , then it should work
[15:31] <jcgs> BluesKaj: yeah it is, do i need some other sort of number? like ALC280 or something? that's what I need to look up i think
[15:33] <jcgs> BluesKaj: also I don't have a line starting with options snd-hda-intel :(
[15:33] <BluesKaj> jcgs, the tutorial is pretty clear , just follow the instructions for your computer brand
[15:35] <jcgs> sBluesKaj: The first thing it says to do is run cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* which doesn't exist :(
[15:36] <jcgs> BluesKaj: I don't have a /proc/asound directory :(
[15:38] <jcgs> BluesKaj: thanks anyway :)
[15:45] <MadRobot> Hi all
[15:46] <MadRobot> How do I make the desktop effects defaultly enabled at startup?
[15:47] <collabra> MadRobot: are you using 10.10 64 bit by perchance?
[15:47] <MadRobot> collabra: nope
[15:48] <collabra> well,... 10.10 32? 10.04 lts 64 or 32 bit?
[15:48] <MadRobot> 10.10 32
[15:48] <kyubutsu> open system settings from kmenu, under workspace appereance and behaviour go into desktop effects and check off 'enable desktop effects'
[15:49] <collabra> sounds like 32 bit has the same problem i encountered with 64 bit 10.10
[15:51] <MadRobot> kyubutsu: it will be enabled by default at startup this way?
[15:51] <collabra> yeah,... should,... MadRobot
[15:51] <MadRobot> collabra: I see.
[15:51] <MadRobot> collabra, kyubutsu: Thanks a lot. :)
[15:53] <collabra> has anyone heard of compiz not loading on login witn 10.10 64 bit or 32?
[16:18] <kyubutsu> is there an oscilloscope program i can use to read the alsamixer/pulseaudio output
[16:18] <urgen> I think I was reading about having to recompile it last night while I was searching out how to fix the scroll bar problem on chromium browser again
[16:23] <eksunoz> I'm using kubuntu amd64 dvd 10.10
[16:25] <eksunoz> why does sound out heard soo bad when playing mp3s? anything could go wrong with my system? or my installation?
[16:26] <urgen> well.. kubuntu moved to a new sound layer
[16:26] <urgen> and so it is barely functional
[16:27] <urgen> kyubutsu, just asked about whether there was an oscilloscope program to monitor outputs, that would be a helpful tool for debugging what's going on
[16:27] <urgen> currently I'm pretty down on using kubuntu for anything sound related like ham radio or audio
[16:28] <urgen> things will get better over time
[16:28] <eksunoz> i'm using asus p5q motherboard with 2 speakers, sometimes 4. how to configure it?
[16:28] <urgen> and hopefully these things will be addressed well
[16:30] <urgen> so sound things take a lot of dedication and patience
[16:30] <kyubutsu> i dont have sound issues.. in fact am kind of surprised pulseaudio works so well under kubuntu
[16:30] <urgen> it doesn't for me
[16:31] <kyubutsu> i just wanted oscilloscope to check on some stream metrics
[16:31] <kyubutsu> :(
[16:32] <kyubutsu> alsamixer used to have a meter , i dont recall how to bring it up on interface
[16:33] <eksunoz> how to install pulse audio on kubuntu? how to remove alsa driver?
[16:34] <kyubutsu> kubuntu 10.10 already comes with all that , you shouldnt need installing anything
[16:36] <urgen> ya, if things are not working it is more likely the laptop audio device not really kubuntu
[16:37] <eksunoz> i have ever tried to install my motboard sound driver, but later i've got no more idea with no sound out. I just can reinstall my system all over again. what do i need to do to enchance my sound?
[16:37] <urgen> kubuntu uses phonon, that's the new part I was talking about
[16:38] <urgen> so now we have alsa and pulseaudio and phonon all trying to capture the devices
[16:38] <urgen> it makes for a bit of a mess some times
[16:39] <urgen> there were added problems like Adobe not wanting to release a 64bit flash player so sound was failing for quite a while in 10.04 when you went to youtube if you could get any flash video to work at all
[16:39] <urgen> so everything does change for the better it just takes some elbow grease
[16:40] <eksunoz> what's phonon use for? is it a driver?
[16:40] <urgen> these types of technological evolutions happen all the time every few years the transition hasn't really been modeled that well so there are times when no safety net is there for basic things like just wanting to play music
[16:41] <urgen> phonon is like alsa and pulseaudio
[16:41] <urgen> it is a new audio device layer
[16:41] <urgen> a way to manage requests to the sound card
[16:41] <urgen> these days we need audio into stuff like Wine so they have to make virtual cards
[16:41] <urgen> it gets complex
[16:42] <urgen> everything always gets more complex :-)
[16:42] <eksunoz> getting difficult?
[16:43] <kyubutsu> !phonon
[16:43] <kyubutsu> !info phonon
[16:51] <eksunoz> how to configure phonon?
[16:54] <kyubutsu> !audio | eksunoz
[16:56] <FrauHansen> Hi
[16:56] <kyubutsu> now, the phonon api is in System Settings > multimedia if you still want to have a look
[16:59] <eksunoz> kyubutsu. i see
[17:04] <FrauHansen> can knetworkmanager use the wext driver to connect to wpa-wireless? how can i change from ndiswrapper to wext?
[17:04] <eksunoz> but how to configure, such as adding annother output device?
[17:06] <BluesKaj> FrauHansen,which wifi chip do you have ?
[17:08] <FrauHansen> Netgear WPN111 using the ndiswrapper driver. It's working with wpa_supplicant (wext). But knetworkmanager showed driver: ndiswrapper and didn't give the option to use wpa, only wep.
[17:10] <kyubutsu> eksunoz: Phonon is not designed to have every conceivable multimedia feature, but rather as a simple way to perform common functions of media players. Developers that require more control over a backend than Phonon can provide are recommended to use the native API or the GStreamer API on systems for which it's available
[17:11] <FrauHansen> BluesKaj: the wiki says it's an Atheros chip.
[17:11] <kyubutsu> i think that pretty much means you dont
[17:12] <cc_lol> hi
[17:12] <FrauHansen> BluesKaj: lsusb: ID 1385:5f01 Netgear, Inc WPN111
[17:12] <cc_lol> ï·
[17:12] <cc_lol> woops
[17:15] <BluesKaj> FrauHansen, bummer, a usb dongle wifi adapter - atheros ...I haven't been able get mine to work since jaunty..mine's abelkin but it's a common chip
[17:16] <FrauHansen> BluesKaj: I guess i'll have to use wicd (*cry*)
[17:16] <BluesKaj> FrauHansen, I can suggest wicd ..
[17:17] <BluesKaj> dunno if it will work tho ... I haven't had any luck with it
[17:18] <urgen> wasn't atheros the one that just opened the driver to linux?
[17:18] <FrauHansen> BluesKaj: i think it's just an interface for wpa_supplicant. and since that is working right now i'm positiv wicd will, too
[17:20] <FrauHansen> going to try it now. bye
[17:20] <BluesKaj> atheros has always had linux drivers but they haven't given much support to the newer distros, urgen
[17:21] <urgen> who was it then?
[17:21] <urgen> some company just opened the driver
[17:21] <urgen> but that will probably only be new devices
[17:22] <surunveri> hi is there a keyboard macro recorder for Kubuntu?
[17:23] <surunveri> that records pressed keys and then repeats the recorded proceadure
[17:23] <EliteHunters> requesting some help with kubuntu 10.10 Install DVD
[17:24] <EliteHunters> can anyone be of assistance?
[17:27] <urgen> :-) your DVD reader can't read it?
[17:27] <EliteHunters> well that's the thing
[17:28] <urgen> or the writer can't write one?
[17:28] <EliteHunters> I can't really be sure
[17:28] <kyubutsu> !dvd
[17:28] <urgen> ya I have a laptop that got upset because I tried to use a Dual Layer
[17:28] <EliteHunters> when it reaches the step to install from the cd
[17:28] <EliteHunters> it gives me the error
[17:28] <EliteHunters> plus
[17:28] <urgen> ah at least you get an error
[17:28] <EliteHunters> can't run it live either
[17:29] <EliteHunters> size of the ISO matches the DVD
[17:29] <EliteHunters> just burnt it a while ago
[17:29] <urgen> you have to do the md5sum thing
[17:29] <EliteHunters> was really crossing my fingers on it working
[17:29] <urgen> size can look the same and the bits still not be where they are suppose to be
[17:30] <urgen> especially with large iso's like DVD
[17:30] <EliteHunters> so how to do the md5 check
[17:30]  * urgen tries for luck
[17:31] <urgen> !md5sum
[17:31] <urgen> cool
[17:31] <EliteHunters> ok
[17:31] <EliteHunters> will try
[17:31] <urgen> but you can also do a network install
[17:31] <surunveri> hey anyone know if there's a program for KDE that records keyboard and mouse events
[17:31] <surunveri> ?
[17:31] <surunveri> i tried google and searching repository
[17:31] <urgen> takes longer but if you hit some hardware limit it is a good option
[17:32] <urgen> of course if you do network install pick an initial lite install and add stuff as you need it later
[17:32] <EliteHunters> wanna install this thing whole and get windows 7 off.
[17:34] <EliteHunters> dl'ing winMD5Sum now
[17:34] <EliteHunters> let me check this oit
[17:34] <EliteHunters> *out
[17:44] <EliteHunters> winMD5Sum is giving some problems
[17:44] <EliteHunters> taking to long
[17:44] <EliteHunters> and not running when the file is sent to the program
[17:48] <eksunoz> EliteHunters: chek ur iso using torrent
[17:49] <surunveri> hey anyone know if there's a program for KDE that records keyboard and mouse events
[17:50] <edgaro> hola
[17:53] <EliteHunters> my MD5 is different
[17:54] <EliteHunters> 10.10 Maverick Hash for october 2010
[17:54] <EliteHunters> is different from the ISO downloaded last night
[17:56] <EliteHunters> So what do I do from here
[17:56] <EliteHunters> Dl another ISO?
[17:58] <sresu_> Is there any KDE application like HandBrake - video tranoder?
[17:59] <sresu_> *tanscoder
[18:01] <BluesKaj> sresu_, transcode
[18:01] <BluesKaj> !transcode
[18:01] <EliteHunters> correction:- my kububtu 10.10 dvd 1386 hash is the same as the md5 Sum on the website
[18:01] <EliteHunters> so what could be the problem
[18:03] <BluesKaj> sresu_, check the package manager for transcode and related apps
[18:04] <sresu_> BluesKaj: Yeah, thanks. I found HandBrake for this purpose better but it takes up memory while running. How is trancode, have you used it?
[18:04] <BluesKaj> yes  , it's acli app, very fast and effective
[18:05] <BluesKaj> lots of options in the man page
[18:06] <EliteHunters> does anyone have 10.10 installation problems
[18:06] <EliteHunters> cause I need some help with my installtion process
[18:07] <BluesKaj> sresu_, also check out ffmpeg
[18:07] <BluesKaj> !ffmpeg
[18:07] <BluesKaj> 1bot
[18:07] <BluesKaj> !bot
[18:08] <BluesKaj> !FFMPEG
[18:08] <sresu_> BluesKaj: Yeah.. I know about that. Whats the CLI command to run trancode? trancode?
[18:08] <sresu_> ha
[18:08] <sresu_> Thanks.. not required that now :)
[18:08] <BluesKaj> uhmm yeah , but you have set options
[18:09] <EliteHunters> Need some installation help with kubuntu 10.10 please
[18:09] <sresu_> But today the bot is reponding late in /query as well
[18:09] <surunveri> hey anyone know if there's a program for KDE that records keyboard and mouse events?
[18:11] <sresu_> BluesKaj: There exist any GUI for it?
[18:12] <simi> ccan i share files on LAN withoud NFS?
[18:12] <simi> i have 2 kuibuntu pccc
[18:13] <EliteHunters> Install Kubuntu from text mode --> English --> United States --> Dectect Keyboard layout_ NO --> Origin of keyboard_ USA --> keyboard layout_ USA --> PROBLEMS
[18:14] <EliteHunters> failed step: Load installer component from CD
[18:14] <BluesKaj> sresu_, nevver used it but Transmageddon might be what you need
[18:15] <EliteHunters> What should I do, is there some other step in getting around this problem?
[18:16] <BluesKaj> EliteHunters, isn't there a KB test you can do if you go back , to find which KB setting will work
[18:17] <EliteHunters> well maybe you can advise me
[18:17] <EliteHunters> cause I have the dvd in the drive and process on th failed step at the moment
[18:17] <EliteHunters> I can just ctrl + alt + del
[18:17] <BluesKaj> is there a back button ?
[18:18] <EliteHunters> and get back to the load screen
[18:18] <EliteHunters> Nah
[18:18] <EliteHunters> just the Ubuntu Installer Main Menu
[18:18] <surunveri> hey anyone know if there's a program for KDE that records keyboard and mouse events?
[18:18] <BluesKaj> EliteHunters, where did you buy the KB?
[18:18] <EliteHunters> I didn't
[18:18] <EliteHunters> dl it of the site using the torrent
[18:19] <EliteHunters> maverick meerkat dvd i386.iso
[18:19] <sresu_> surunveri: Why do you need a keylogger?
[18:20] <BluesKaj> EliteHunters, KB=KeyBoard
[18:21] <EliteHunters> KB is set to USA
[18:21] <EliteHunters> and it's a Dell
[18:21] <EliteHunters> came with the system
[18:21] <BluesKaj> it could be british
[18:22] <EliteHunters> tried UK originally
[18:22] <EliteHunters> and that came to the same point
[18:22] <EliteHunters> just tried the USA selection
[18:22] <BluesKaj> EliteHunters, maybe the dvd is defective
[18:23] <EliteHunters> defective in what way
[18:23] <EliteHunters> it's reading and writing ISO's properly
[18:23] <EliteHunters> same with DVD movies
[18:23] <EliteHunters> pdf files on disc
[18:24] <EliteHunters> etc
[18:24] <EliteHunters> ?
[18:24] <BluesKaj> the data that you downloaded might be corrupted
[18:24] <EliteHunters> I thought about that
[18:25] <EliteHunters> cause let me write what I'm seening on screen when I try to start kubuntu from the DVD
[18:25] <BluesKaj> did you do an md5 sum on the iso ..usually a good idea
[18:25] <BluesKaj> !md5
[18:25] <EliteHunters> can not mount /dev/loop0
[18:25] <EliteHunters> did the md5 test
[18:25] <EliteHunters> match for match
[18:25] <EliteHunters> althought
[18:26] <EliteHunters> the ubuntu hash webpage differs from the kubuntu hash web page
[18:26] <sresu_> BluesKaj: Thanks
[18:27] <BluesKaj> time to go ..stuff to do
[18:27] <sresu_> bye
[18:27] <BluesKaj> sresu_, hope it works for you
[18:27] <EliteHunters> (initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: input/output error
[18:27] <sresu_> sresu_: Ya, sticking to cli mode :)
[18:28] <EliteHunters> can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs
[18:29] <EliteHunters> (initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: input/output error
[18:29] <EliteHunters> can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs
[18:29] <EliteHunters> when trying to boot of the DVD
[18:30] <EliteHunters> install not working as well
[18:30] <EliteHunters> failed step: Load installer component from CD
[18:30] <surunveri> sresu_:
[18:30] <surunveri> i dont need a keylogger
[18:30] <surunveri> i need a macro that records keyboard
[18:31] <surunveri> hey anyone know if there's a program for KDE that records keyboard and mouse events?
[18:31] <sresu_> surunveri: For what?
[18:31] <sresu_> surunveri: Please don't repeat the question. If someone knows it, you will get a reply
[18:32] <sresu_> surunveri: Why do you want to record keyboard and mouse events?
[18:32] <surunveri> so I can perform more complex actions with less work
[18:33] <EliteHunters> (initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: input/output error
[18:33] <EliteHunters> can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs
[18:33] <EliteHunters> failed step: Load installer component from CD
[18:33] <sresu_> Like?
[18:34] <surunveri> well for an example
[18:34] <surunveri> i had this text file with 12000 lines of work
[18:34] <surunveri> and i had to remove 2 spaces from the beginning of most of them
[18:34] <surunveri> which i ended up doing manually
[18:34] <James147> surunveri: look at the custom shorcuts under shorcuts and gesters in kde 4.5 (its called input actions in 4.4)
[18:34] <surunveri> lines of text i mean
[18:35] <sresu_> You want it to be recorded so that you can play it back when required so as to save time and labour..
[18:35] <surunveri> no for an example
[18:35] <surunveri> i had to perform teh same operation 12000 tiems myself
[18:35] <surunveri> while recording it and repeating it would've taken a lot less
[18:35] <surunveri> it's pretty damn clear you need to repeat something it's easier with a macro progam isnt it? :D
[18:36] <surunveri> besieds even if I was doing something lame like stealing my sister's email's password with it
[18:36] <surunveri> it wouldnt be any of your business
[18:36] <surunveri> and for the record it's not for that
[18:36] <surunveri> im only person using my pc
[18:36] <surunveri> and thx james
[18:37] <EliteHunters> so can anyone here help with kubuntu 10.10 dvd install to a PC
[18:38] <James147> surunveri: I would look into the editor called vim ... its a very very powerful command line editor that make it very easy to do a vast amount of things (including recording macros) but it isent the easiest program to learn to use.... (install 'vim' to get hte full version and run 'vimtutor' if you want to learn it)
[18:38] <sresu> surunveri: I guess there is no other purpose, then I can suggest a program for that
[18:39] <sresu> James147: A simple program can work for that as well, imo
[18:39] <surunveri> hmm oh sresu lost connection
[18:39] <surunveri> i didnt notice
[18:39] <sresu> Back!
[18:39] <surunveri> while you wre gone i said
[18:39] <EliteHunters> so can anyone here help with kubuntu 10.10 dvd install to a PC, please
[18:39] <surunveri> that even if i was using it for something lame like stealing my sister's email's password with it, it wouldnt be any of your business, and for the record it's not for that, because i live aloen and im the only user of this pc
[18:39] <surunveri> :D
[18:40] <surunveri> but i'll try vim and the tutor thx
[18:40] <sresu> Ok.
[18:40] <sresu> surunveri: Would you like to have the program for it?
[18:40] <surunveri> for what?
[18:40] <surunveri> macro or keylogger? I dont need a keylogger, i need the macro program
[18:40] <James147> sresu: it could... but if you frequently have to edit allot of lines in different ways but often doing the same thing over and over vim can help allot to get it done faster (once you have learnt how to use it)
[18:41] <amichair> surunveri: for simple (but repetitive) text manipulation, you can also try using regular expressions, which are supported by nearly every text editor
[18:41] <sresu> Yes that's what is my approach..
[18:42] <sresu> James147: Yeah.. the if you say it would then vim is fine
[18:42] <sresu> *then
[18:49] <jmichaelx> would anyone here know how to get rid of the "This folder is empty." message that is appearing in folder view in KDE4.5.2? (besides putting something in the specified folder.
[18:50] <jmichaelx> )
[18:50] <EliteHunters> so can anyone here help with kubuntu 10.10 dvd install to a PC, please
[18:54] <EliteHunters> so can anyone here help with kubuntu 10.10 dvd install to a PC, please
[18:57] <EliteHunters> so can anyone here help with kubuntu 10.10 dvd install to a PC, please
[18:57] <EliteHunters> anyone at all
[18:57] <EliteHunters> ?
[19:04] <EliteHunters> need some help please
[19:10] <EliteHunters> so can anyone here help with kubuntu 10.10 dvd install to a PC, please
[19:15] <EliteHunters> so can anyone here help with kubuntu 10.10 dvd install to a PC, please
[19:17] <geekosopher> !anyone | EliteHunters
[19:18] <geekosopher> EliteHunters: what is the exact problem that you are facing?
[19:19] <EliteHunters> (initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: input/output error
[19:19] <EliteHunters> can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs
[19:19] <EliteHunters> failed step: Load installer component from CD
[19:19] <EliteHunters> so far it's that
[19:19] <DarthFrog> Sounds like a corrupt install DVD.
[19:19] <EliteHunters> I'm dl'ing vmware to test the iso itself
[19:20] <moetunes> !md5
[19:20] <EliteHunters> well it came from the kubuntu website
[19:20] <DarthFrog> Checking the MD5 sum would be better.
[19:20] <EliteHunters> did that
[19:20] <DarthFrog> EliteHunters: It may have come from the official website.  Doesn't mean that your copy is any good.
[19:20] <EliteHunters> true
[19:20] <EliteHunters> the ubuntu hash webpage differs from the kubuntu hash web page
[19:21] <DarthFrog> Or that the burn to DVD is good.
[19:21] <DarthFrog> The Ubuntu checksum is for Ubuntu images, not Kubuntu images.
[19:22] <EliteHunters> but the Ubunte Hash webpage has some kubuntu hash listing for October 2010
[19:22] <EliteHunters> it's different on that webpage
[19:22] <EliteHunters> for Kubuntu
[19:22] <EliteHunters> but on the Kubuntu webpage
[19:22] <EliteHunters> the Hash matches
[19:22] <DarthFrog> You're only concerned with the single official MD5SUM for the specific image that you have.
[19:23] <EliteHunters> well
[19:23] <EliteHunters> it matches then
[19:23] <EliteHunters> the hash is a match
[19:23] <DarthFrog> Then take the MD5SUM from your burned DVD and check it against the official checksum.
[19:24] <EliteHunters> how to that one
[19:24] <EliteHunters> I have winMd5Sum installed
[19:24] <DarthFrog> sudo md5sum if=/dev/dvd of=DVD.iso
[19:24] <EliteHunters> I'm on Win 7
[19:25] <DarthFrog> Good luck then. :-)
[19:25] <EliteHunters> how to check the dvd using the winMd5Sum program
[19:26] <DarthFrog> Ask on a MS support forum, not here.
[19:26] <EliteHunters> ok
[19:26] <geekosopher> EliteHunters: how did you verify the checksum of the iso file?
[19:27] <EliteHunters> I used the winMd5Sum program
[19:27] <DarthFrog> On the other hand, you could just burn another DVD from the iso image.
[19:27] <EliteHunters> just right click on the file and click send to winMd%Sum
[19:27] <EliteHunters> yes I could
[19:28] <EliteHunters> but should I take the chance and do that and I lost another disc
[19:28] <DarthFrog> Your choice.
[19:28] <EliteHunters> and winMd5Sum calculate the hash
[19:28] <DarthFrog> You could ask for a free CD from shipit.
[19:28] <DarthFrog> !shipit
[19:28] <EliteHunters> and I just copied the hash from the official webpage and compared it
[19:28] <geekosopher> EliteHunters: ok, though I have not used windows for some time now, what I would do is, just like right clicking on iso file, try right clicking on the dvd icon and see if there is the 'send to winMD%Sum' option
[19:29] <EliteHunters> ok
[19:29] <EliteHunters> trying that now
[19:29] <EliteHunters> Nope
[19:29] <EliteHunters> no send to options
[19:30] <geekosopher> hmm...
[19:31] <EliteHunters> how about
[19:32] <EliteHunters> I make an iso of the disc that the iso came from
[19:32] <EliteHunters> and hash that
[19:32] <geekosopher> EliteHunters: why not? go ahead! try and let us know
[19:32] <EliteHunters> and compare the one from the kubuntu website and the iso from the disc burnt
[19:32] <EliteHunters> ok, cool
[19:33] <EliteHunters> making image now
[19:34] <EliteHunters> I'll give the report in a while
[19:42] <sresu_> Dolphin hanging a lot lately.. and at times crashing
[19:43] <geekosopher> sresu_: dolphins are supposed to swim, right? ;)
[19:43] <sresu_> geekosopher: Yeah.. I'm talking about the file manager, which you probably know :) Any idea about it?
[19:45] <geekosopher> sresu_: not at all, mine is working good.
[19:45] <sresu_> geekosopher: Same is happening with OpenOffice at times..
[19:46] <geekosopher> sresu_: anything in particular that you find doing when it happens?
[19:46] <moetunes> start them from a terminal to catch any errors
[19:46] <sresu_> geekosopher: Umm.. not really. Its happening at random now-a days.
[19:46] <sresu_> moetunes: One sec..
[19:48] <EliteHunters> geekosopher
[19:49] <EliteHunters> the MD5 hash is a match
[19:49] <EliteHunters> official iso and burnt one
[19:49] <EliteHunters> match for match
[19:50] <geekosopher> EliteHunters: okay...
[19:51] <EliteHunters> So, now that it is known that the hash is a match from the iso's
[19:51] <geekosopher> EliteHunters: well, for one, I think you saved yourself the cost of a DVD :)
[19:51] <EliteHunters> true
[19:51] <sresu_> moetunes: geekosopher: CLI <dolphin> - http://pastebin.com/YrA3ud9u, <kdesudo dolphin> - http://pastebin.com/m1sca9SB, <ooffice> Runs fine
[19:52] <moetunes> sresu_:  the cli dolphin link is blank :]
[19:53] <EliteHunters> So, what should I do next then?
[19:53] <sresu_> moetunes: geekosopher: CLI <dolphin> http://pastebin.com/jphEGi1t
[19:55] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Burn the iso and try installing again. Hopefully you won't get errors now :)
[19:55] <EliteHunters> So...one more shot then
[19:55] <EliteHunters> lowest speed
[19:55] <EliteHunters> any recommendations
[19:56] <vagastorm> I*ve used .xmodmap to map the win key to F13 to be able to map it ti the start menu, but for some reason it made End stop working...
[19:56] <vagastorm> any one ever seen something like that?
[19:56] <sresu_> moetunes: cli dolphin. Any errors in it?
[19:57] <moetunes> sresu_:  seems like you are having dbus errors for some reason
[19:58] <geekosopher> EliteHunters: I would also try 'check cd for defects' option when booting from cd
[19:58] <sresu_> moetunes: dbus errors! What can cause that?
[19:58] <moetunes> sresu_:  is nepomuk turned off?
[19:59] <EliteHunters> well the 1st disc wasn't going to that option
[19:59] <sresu_> moetunes: Yes
[20:00] <moetunes> vagastorm:  use   xev  from terminal to check the keycodes
[20:00] <moetunes> sresu_:  see if it happens with nepomuk not running
[20:00] <vagastorm> moetunes: I have, the win key has code 113, end 115. gona log out and in to see what happens
[20:00] <sresu_> sresu_: I never use it. Its always disabled
[20:01] <EliteHunters> do you think its a good idea to mount the image of kubuntu in VMWare and check to see if it will install in that?
[20:01] <EliteHunters> and then burn the disc afterwards
[20:02] <EliteHunters> to ensure it's not a corrupted iso file
[20:02] <moetunes> sresu_:  line 3 from that link suggests nepomuk might be the cause - either 'cause it is running or 'cause it is not...
[20:02] <geekosopher> EliteHunters: good idea indeed
[20:03]  * geekosopher is going to crash (on the bed that is)
[20:03] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Yes, you can try that and check for defects there as well. If the installation goes fine and no installation media defect, most likely you won't find problems
[20:04] <sresu_> moetunes: Ya, inital lines say about that about related to .service files. But not able to link it well..
[20:04] <sresu_> *initial
[20:05] <amichair> after upgrade to maverick all the kmixer controls are gone, only main ones left - any idea how to adjust the separate channels?
[20:07] <sresu_> sresu_: Any other soluition you think can be tried out?
[20:07] <sresu_> Argg
[20:07] <sresu_> moetunes: : Any other soluition you think can be tried out?
[20:09] <moetunes> sresu_:  none come to mind
[20:09] <sresu_> moetunes: Umm.. thanks for considering it. Thanks
[20:10] <moetunes> sresu_:  keep starting it from terminal - you might catch a "better" error...
[20:13] <sresu_> moetunes:  Probably not, yes I'll see. But still even when nepomuk is disabled, how can that cause problem. I checked it. Does dBus error points out any particular thread? KDE4 started using dbus, it was dcop before, any problem could have occurred due to upgrade?
[20:14] <moetunes> sresu_:  I wouldn't think so - you could try an update/upgrade to see if something was missed
[20:15] <moetunes> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:15] <eksunoz> does somebody can help me improving my audio output? do compiling motboard driver gonna enchance sounds quality?
[20:16] <sresu_> moetunes: Its fine as well. Is it possible to find out which particular thread is being used during communication?
[20:21] <moetunes> sresu_:  that I wouldn't know
[20:22] <sresu_> moetunes: I'll see what you suggested anyways. Thanks
[20:24] <Daniela234> Hello, does anyone know how to use the mouse wheel?
[20:26] <yofel> Daniela234: use the mouse wheel for what? (or do you mean it doesn't work at all?)
[20:27] <Daniela234> exactly it doesn't work in VLC Player
[20:29] <yofel> ah, VLC, I don't know what the mouse is supposed to do there and I'm on my notebook currently, sorry
[20:30] <Daniela234> volume up and down
[20:34] <sresu_> yofel: You can place the cursor on the volume icon and scroll upwards, in VLC. You will find significant increase in volume
[20:35] <yofel> ah, I'll try it next time I'm on my desktop
[20:35] <sresu_> Oh.. Daniela234^^
[20:35] <sresu_> yofel: Yeah :)
[20:35] <Daniela234> yes I am still here :-)
[20:36] <sresu_> Daniela234: You on desktop or netbook?
[20:36] <Daniela234> neither
[20:36] <sresu_> Then?
[20:36] <Daniela234> notebook
[20:37] <sresu_> oops typo notebook :)
[20:37] <Daniela234> Logitech Mouse MX 518
[20:38] <moetunes> Daniela234:  you need to enable the mouse in vlc preferences
[20:38] <Daniela234> I did it
[20:38] <moetunes> oh
[20:39] <Daniela234> Mouse Wheel -> Volume Controle
[20:39] <sresu_> Daniela234: Ok, Place the cursor on the volume icon after scrolling volume down to zero. Then placing the cursor on the volume icon, scroll upwards. After 200% it will increase more, Do you see any change?
[20:40] <sresu_> Daniela234: If you play any video file, you will notice quickly
[20:40] <sresu_> It shows the volume% till 400
[20:41] <Daniela234> it works only when I move the cursor to the volume icon
[20:41] <Daniela234> but it won't work in full screen
[20:42] <sresu_> Yes. Did the volume reach 400%. It works even in full screen. The hidden controls shows volume icon where you have to repeat the same procedure
[20:43] <Daniela234> I can not hear any change volume when I play a video file
[20:44] <sresu_> Daniela234: What I meant was it pops up Volume% during volume playback when scrolling till 400%
[20:44] <sresu_> *video playback
[20:45] <Daniela234> I can not reach the 400$ limit
[20:45] <Daniela234> 400% ops
[20:47] <sresu_> Daniela234: VLC media player version?
[20:47] <sresu_> Daniela234: Goldeneye?
[20:47] <Daniela234> correct :-)
[20:47] <Daniela234> 1.0.6
[20:48] <sresu_> Daniela234: In preferences, for Audio tab under General Audio, have you scrolled default volume to 400%?
[20:49] <mementomori> hi
[20:49] <Daniela234> yes, I did
[20:50] <cylob> hi, i just installed kubuntu after using ubuntu for awhile. im having trouble finding all the software to install. where's synaptic? i need some games
[20:50] <cylob> ubuntu software center seemed to have more
[20:51] <afterlight> How do I install ksensors in 10.10 -or- what is the replacement package?
[20:51] <sresu_> Daniela234: Save and close and restart VLC and try again..
[20:51] <moetunes> cylob:  synaptic is not used in kubuntu - there's kpackagekit for the same job
[20:51] <afterlight> http://packages.ubuntu.com/en/maverick/i386/ksensors  "Package not available in this suite."
[20:51] <moetunes> !find sensors
[20:51] <cylob> i wish kpackagekit had a directory so i could browse my game genre
[20:52] <Daniela234> I would like to change the volume by mouse wheel. After restarting VLC my sister woke up...
[20:52] <afterlight> it really should be a kde program to live in the kde tray
[20:52] <cylob> in fact, does kpackagekit have any browsing at all? you have to know what you want to install anything
[20:53] <sresu_> Daniela234: No, that was only initail setting required. Now, you should be able to change volume using mouse wheel from 0-400%
[20:54] <yofel> cylob: kpk does sort by sections a bit (what release do you use?) if you need a synaptic like package manager there's muon (maverick)
[20:54] <sresu_> cylob: Yes, but the latest with maverick is better
[20:54] <cylob> 10.10
[20:54] <sresu_> else muon
[20:54] <Daniela234> I am so sorry but it doesn't work
[20:54] <cylob> what's better than muon? kpk?
[20:54] <cylob> yofel: how do i look at the games in kpk
[20:55] <cylob> oh wait
[20:55] <cylob> im an idiot
[20:55] <cylob> nm
[20:55] <sresu_> Daniela234: It works here.. I'm not able to understand that. Probably I didn't word it properly..
[20:55] <yofel> cylob: kpk is the default package manager - muon is a bit more advanced and technical if you need that
[20:56] <sresu_> Daniela234: Sorry, no other method comes to mind for scrolling volume using mouse wheel
[20:56] <Daniela234> duuno, I am not a profassiol user of linux
[20:56] <cylob> i gotta say, i think kubuntu is faster than ubuntu
[20:59] <sresu_> Daniela234: All are volunteers here, you may try asking in vlc channel. I don't know the channel name for it, probably #vlc. If someone knows the solution, you would get reply.
[21:05] <alesan> hi how do I report a bug? basically the suspend function is totally unusable
[21:06] <moetunes> !bugs
[21:07] <alesan> moetunes, which package is the one for suspend?
[21:07] <moetunes> alesan:  I don't know for sure - maybe Xorg
[21:08] <yofel> alesan: where does it fail?
[21:08] <moetunes> alesan:  you can browse launchpad to see what others have written about suspend probs
[21:09] <alesan> yofel, I select suspend to ram from the K menu
[21:09] <yofel> alesan: I mean, does it fail on suspend? on resume? how does it fail?
[21:09] <alesan> the screen goes in character mode, the little LED that means "suspend" on my laptop blinks, and it stays there
[21:09] <alesan> so the screen and the cpu, hdd will stay ON
[21:10] <alesan> and the laptop will overheat if I put it away in that state, and the battery drain in few hours
[21:10] <alesan> the only thing is to keep pressed the power button until it shutdowns but this is equivalent to an abrupt power OFF
[21:11] <yofel> alesan: sounds like a kernel problem to me - file a bug with 'ubuntu-bug linux' and see if you can add some more information with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspendHibernateResume#Debugging%20Suspend
[21:11] <alesan> yofel, is it clear, what happens?
[21:29] <alesan> so this "launchpad" site wants me to create a password with at least a number and an uppercase letter
[21:29] <alesan> is there a way to circumvent this?
[21:30] <cylob> how do i resize a widget???
[21:32] <EliteHunters> sresu_
[21:32] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Yes?
[21:32] <EliteHunters> the vmware cleared the dvd in my drive and loading unto vmware
[21:32] <yofel> cylob: when you hover over a widget a panel will appear with a resize button (if the widgets are unlocked)
[21:32] <EliteHunters> it's actually installing of the dvd
[21:33] <cylob> ahhh ok you gotta click and hold it
[21:33] <EliteHunters> but not from the dvd to the PC
[21:33] <HmpfCBR> cylob: for more help on plasma see http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma
[21:33] <cylob> thnx
[21:34] <EliteHunters> DVD (in Drive) --> PC --> Not Installing
[21:34] <EliteHunters> DVD (in Drive) --> VMWare --> Installing
[21:34] <EliteHunters> advice anyone
[21:34] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Not able to undersrand that. What happened when trying to install on HDD?
[21:34] <EliteHunters> Not the drive as far as I can see
[21:35] <EliteHunters> well here's the down low on this system
[21:35] <EliteHunters> dell 4600
[21:35] <EliteHunters> win 7
[21:35] <EliteHunters> wanna kick out 7 and put kubuntu
[21:35] <EliteHunters> and thus far
[21:35] <EliteHunters> it's not installing kubuntu from the dvd
[21:36] <sresu_> EliteHunters: What happened when you restarted system with dvd in the tray? Did the installer showed up?
[21:36] <EliteHunters> failed step: Load installer component from CD
[21:36] <EliteHunters> that's what I got
[21:36] <EliteHunters> failed step: Load installer component from CD
[21:36] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Is that the same error you got before?
[21:36] <EliteHunters> yes
[21:36] <EliteHunters> but not in VM
[21:36] <EliteHunters> VM is still going strong with the installation
[21:37] <EliteHunters> (Installing the base system)
[21:37] <sresu_> EliteHunters: You have the iso file right? Have you tried LiveUSB installation?
[21:37] <EliteHunters> can't boot of USB in this Dell 4600
[21:37] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Do you get the same error with all the installation methods?
[21:37] <sresu_> Ah-ok
[21:37] <EliteHunters> have to go for CD/DVD Install
[21:38] <EliteHunters> and thus far
[21:38] <EliteHunters> the VM is boot and installing of the DVD which was burned from the iso and in the drive
[21:38] <EliteHunters> the same drive that the installation was not doing too
[21:39] <EliteHunters> basically the disc in dvd drive running and installing on VM
[21:39] <EliteHunters> but not to the PC
[21:39] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Is the DMA mode ON? its required with some DVD..
[21:40] <EliteHunters> you mean DMA on my actually physical dvd drive?
[21:40] <sresu_> Yes
[21:40] <EliteHunters> hmmmmm
[21:40] <EliteHunters> would that make a difference
[21:40] <EliteHunters> cause it's installing the OS from the DVD drive into VMWare
[21:41] <EliteHunters> how would it make a difference from installing onto the actual HDD
[21:41] <sresu_> I think so.. Try it <-d 1 /dev/hda1> to switch on the DMA. In some dvd drives this is required to work with the linux driver
[21:41] <cylob> does dropbox not work with kde?
[21:42] <sresu_> <-d 1 /dev/hda1> in expert mode
[21:42] <EliteHunters> well you got to advise me from a windows perspective since I'm running 7
[21:42] <EliteHunters> cause.....I wanna wipe 7 from the system
[21:42] <EliteHunters> right now...7 is the only OS on the system
[21:43] <sresu_> EliteHunters: If you can try installing via wubi and give me installation log. That would probably help..
[21:43] <sresu_> No.. wait
[21:43] <EliteHunters> ok
[21:44] <sresu_> EliteHunters: No, need not try wubi installation
[21:44] <EliteHunters> ok
[21:44] <sresu_> EliteHunters: When do you get the error specifically?
[21:44] <EliteHunters> when I get to the:-
[21:45] <EliteHunters> Load installer component from CD
[21:47] <EliteHunters> that's where I get the error
[21:48] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Hold on, I'm repeating the installation procedure here. I'm installing directly w/o trying Kubuntu.. I'm on Welcome screen now
[21:48] <EliteHunters> ok
[21:48] <sresu_> EliteHunters: What did you do after the Welcome screen?
[21:50] <EliteHunters> install kubuntu in text mode
[21:50] <sresu_> EliteHunters: By default a English language must be selected and giving you options for Quit, Forward right? Did you get this screen?
[21:50] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Alright. Hold on
[21:50] <EliteHunters> ok
[21:51] <sresu_> EliteHunters: You tried only the text mode?
[21:51] <EliteHunters> no
[21:51] <sresu_> Then?
[21:51] <EliteHunters> starting the kubuntu in live mode
[21:51] <EliteHunters> gave me this:-
[21:52] <sresu_> Okay, the very initialisation of ever option gives that same error?
[21:52] <sresu_> *every
[21:53] <EliteHunters> initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: input/output error
 can not mount /
[21:53] <EliteHunters> no
[21:53] <intick> j
[21:54] <EliteHunters> I get the above in live mode
[21:56] <sresu_> EliteHunters: You are completely sure about md5sum, right?
[21:56] <EliteHunters> yes
[21:56] <EliteHunters> sure
[21:56] <EliteHunters> match for match
[21:58] <sresu_> EliteHunters: And the check installation  media? It gave the same error?
[21:59] <Sir_Konrad> ok, fresh Kubuntu install, installed latest nVidia driver, and now the Kubuntu bootscreen is low res. What to do?
[22:00] <spirov92> hi, I'm having problems with the touchpad of a HP 4520s. Multitouch doesn't work, and the buttons are under the touchpad, which is just plain stupid
[22:00] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Can you try using CD with external CD drive with power cable?
[22:00] <spirov92> here's some topic on my problem: http://h30499.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-HP-Compaq-Armada-EVO/Hp-4520s-touchpad-issue-please-help/m-p/1160472
[22:00] <EliteHunters> well I don't have one
[22:01] <sresu_> EliteHunters: You used a DVD right? not CD..
[22:01] <EliteHunters> yeah same problem for check installation media
[22:01] <EliteHunters> Load installer component from CD
[22:01] <EliteHunters> failed
[22:01] <EliteHunters> yes
[22:02] <EliteHunters> DVD
[22:02] <sresu_> EliteHunters: And you are sure that there are no problems with DVD drive?
[22:02] <EliteHunters> yep
[22:02] <EliteHunters> cause it installed kubuntu on VMware
[22:03] <sresu_> EliteHunters: How did you check the md5sum?
[22:03] <EliteHunters> and the disc is out of the drive
[22:03] <EliteHunters> winmd5Sum
[22:04] <sresu_> EliteHunters: You are trying it on notebook or desktop?
[22:05] <EliteHunters> desktop
[22:05] <sresu_> EliteHunters: If notebook/laptop, give me the model to check hardware compatabilities
[22:05] <sresu_> Okay
[22:05] <EliteHunters> desktop
[22:05] <EliteHunters> Dell 4600
[22:05] <EliteHunters> ide DVD drive
[22:08] <sresu_> EliteHunters: 64 bit?
[22:10] <EliteHunters> 32
[22:10] <EliteHunters> 32bit processor
[22:12] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Did you try the DVD on different system?>
[22:13] <EliteHunters> No I haven't
[22:14] <EliteHunters> just the Dell 4600
[22:14] <EliteHunters> don't really wanna try the install on the laptop here
[22:14] <EliteHunters> I could try the live mode
[22:17] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Yes, please try live mode
[22:17] <sresu_> and report back
[22:19] <k0s> 'q
[22:19] <k0s> эй
[22:20]  * roshanavand saying HI to all
[22:20] <EliteHunters> yeah sorry about that
[22:20] <roshanavand> how can I view hidden files in kubuntu?
[22:20] <EliteHunters> disconnected
[22:20] <spirov92> does anyone have experience with synaptics touchpads?
[22:21] <spirov92> roshanavand: in dolphin, view->show hidden files
[22:21] <spirov92> or Alt+.
[22:21] <EliteHunters> sresu_ any other possible idea or solution
[22:22] <roshanavand> spirov92: thanks...
[22:22] <spirov92> so, the touchpad is supposed to have multitouch, but I can't get it to work. Any ideas?
[22:23] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Did you try LiveCD on laptop? It will not affect your laptop..
[22:23] <EliteHunters> I haven't
[22:23] <EliteHunters> I'll give it a try now
[22:25] <EliteHunters> sresu_
[22:26] <EliteHunters> it's booting off the laptop
[22:26] <sresu_> Yes?
[22:26] <EliteHunters> yes
[22:26] <EliteHunters> I'm at the GUI
[22:26] <sresu_> EliteHunters: I mean whats happenning?
[22:26] <EliteHunters> waiting to go into the KDE desktop mode
[22:27] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Okay.. good
[22:27] <EliteHunters> well it's at the kubuntu loading screen
[22:27] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Loaded the desktop?
[22:29] <EliteHunters> at the installation process screen
[22:29] <EliteHunters> try or install
[22:30] <EliteHunters> that's the choices
[22:30] <EliteHunters> try for live
[22:30] <EliteHunters> just to check
[22:31] <sresu_> Check the installation media first.
[22:31] <EliteHunters> would that imply doing an install on the laptop
[22:33] <sresu_> No. Check for defects, Install without affecting the system will not affect your system HDD. Only Install Kubuntu option affects HDD. Check CD for defects will check the installation media
[22:33] <EliteHunters> so reboot
[22:33] <EliteHunters> and try the install kubuntu from text mode
[22:33] <sresu_> No!
[22:34] <EliteHunters> so
[22:34] <EliteHunters> install from the live desktop mode
[22:34] <sresu_> EliteHunters: I said to to choose  Check for defects option. What all options do you see?
[22:34] <EliteHunters> Ohh Sorry
[22:35] <EliteHunters> I started it into live option
[22:35] <sresu_> If I'm right you are on laptop, you don't want it to be affected.
[22:35] <EliteHunters> correct
[22:35] <sresu_> Yes, go on with the live option then
[22:36] <EliteHunters> lol
[22:36] <EliteHunters> already exited
[22:36] <EliteHunters> hmmmmm
[22:36] <EliteHunters> alright
[22:36] <EliteHunters> heading back in
[22:36] <EliteHunters> rebooting
[22:37] <sresu_> And sorry.. correction I said install w/o affecting the system. Its <Try without affecting the system> option
[22:37] <EliteHunters> checking disc for defects
[22:37] <sresu_> Yeah
[22:37] <EliteHunters> checking now
[22:37] <EliteHunters> integrity
[22:38] <Sir_Konrad> Ok, I'm having a problem with my cursor jumping around a LOT on Kubuntu 10.04. I have a trackpad, and it happens when I type. Any way to fix this?
[22:40] <sresu_> EliteHunters:  What does it say? "Check finished: no errors found. Press any key to reboot your system" ??
[22:40] <EliteHunters> almost completed
[22:40] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Okay.
[22:41] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Architecture of laptop system?
[22:41] <EliteHunters> Compaq 610
[22:41] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Is that same as your desktop and for the DVD you installed, i386?
[22:42] <EliteHunters> the DVD is the same
[22:42] <EliteHunters> the disc is the same
[22:42] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Processor?
[22:42] <EliteHunters> 1386
[22:42] <EliteHunters> nah
[22:42] <EliteHunters> the desktop
[22:42] <EliteHunters> P4
[22:42] <sresu_> I'm not able to unserstand why its taking time
[22:42] <sresu_> ok fine
[22:43] <EliteHunters> the laptop has a intel celeron
[22:43] <sresu_> Oh.. fine
[22:43] <EliteHunters> and 2 GB RAM
[22:44] <anoneemouse> hi... can someone tell me how i can get kubuntu not to switch my monitor off after ten minutes... i have to move my mouse every five or so minutes while im watching something...
[22:44] <anoneemouse> 10.10
[22:45] <sresu_> anoneemouse: System Settings>Hardware>Display & Monitor> Screensaver
[22:47] <anoneemouse> tried that already... it's set to 60 minutes... but the monitor switches off way before that. i never get to even see the screensaver
[22:47] <EliteHunters> long cheack
[22:47] <EliteHunters> *check
[22:47] <roshanavand> how to sync kmail with gmail? when I remove a message from local inbox it's not remed from the server ...
[22:47] <roshanavand> removed*
[22:48] <sresu_> anoneemouse: Power Management
[22:48] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Any error?
[22:48] <EliteHunters> and the VM is still installing necessary files
[22:48] <EliteHunters> DONE
[22:48] <vasilis> hi
[22:48] <EliteHunters> any key to reboot
[22:48] <EliteHunters> we're good
[22:48] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Wait
[22:48] <anoneemouse> i tried that too. i set everything to 120 minutes... no luck
[22:48] <vasilis> any guide for kubuntu?
[22:48] <EliteHunters> ok
[22:49] <sresu_> fine
[22:49] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Fine, so there was no error, right?
[22:49] <EliteHunters> nope
[22:49] <EliteHunters> none
[22:49] <EliteHunters> none at all
[22:49] <anoneemouse> sresu_: i actually created a power profile... but it doesn't seem to have any effect whatsoever
[22:49] <EliteHunters> disc is good
[22:49] <FloodBotK2> EliteHunters: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:49] <vasilis> speak to me
[22:50] <anoneemouse> vasilis: http://www.kubuntu.org/support
[22:50] <EliteHunters> ok
[22:50] <sresu_> EliteHunters: You mentioned that it rebooted by itself whrn trying Kubuntu without affecting the system. Right?
[22:50] <EliteHunters> correct
[22:50] <sresu_> anoneemouse: Sorry, then. No other option come to mind
[22:50] <sresu_> EliteHunters: When did that happen?
[22:51] <EliteHunters> that is when I went into Start Kubuntu and chose Try instead of Install
[22:51] <vasilis> dont see any manual there
[22:51] <roshanavand> how to sync kmail with gmail? when I remove a message from local inbox it's not remed from the server ...
[22:51] <sresu_> EliteHunters: So what happened after choosing that option?
[22:51] <EliteHunters> It went into Live Mode
[22:51] <sresu_> Then?
[22:51] <EliteHunters> well "Try" Live Mode
[22:51] <EliteHunters> then the GUI loaded
[22:52] <sresu_> What was on display?
[22:52] <EliteHunters> and I had the KDE desktop in front of my eyes
[22:52] <HmpfCBR> anoneemouse: did you try to switch to presentation mode in the battery applet?
[22:52] <sresu_> oh yes,, check that thing as well
[22:52] <sresu_> HmpfCBR: :)
[22:52] <EliteHunters> lol
[22:53] <anoneemouse> HmpfCBR: I one upped it and created my own profile with even longer waits... doesn't work
[22:53] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Then?
[22:53] <anoneemouse> HmpfCBR: presentation mode didn't work either
[22:53] <EliteHunters> well in KDE Mode
[22:53] <EliteHunters> it was like normal
[22:53] <EliteHunters> just like how it normally looked in beta testing
[22:53] <sresu_> EliteHunters: When did it rebooted by itslelf suddenly?
[22:53] <EliteHunters> it didn't
[22:53] <EliteHunters> I did that to get back into boot mode
[22:53] <vasilis> how can i find games in kubuntu?
[22:54] <sresu_> EliteHunters: But you said that before..
[22:54] <EliteHunters> to check the disc
[22:54] <sresu_> Ok
[22:54] <EliteHunters> then I apologize
[22:54] <EliteHunters> so, with the laptop...we're good
[22:55] <HmpfCBR> anoneemouse: strange, for me presentation mode + disabling screen saver did the trick.
[22:55] <EliteHunters> it's just the desktop section to get pass
[22:55] <anoneemouse> HmpfCBR: Its as if wherever it has to set it doesnt happen... which graphics card do you have?
[22:55] <sresu_> EliteHunters: So, there is no problem with the dick for sure. And we don't need DMA things to be ON. Its still wierd the way we tested it. But the desktop doesn't help at all
[22:56] <EliteHunters> from the laptop side
[22:56] <EliteHunters> all is well
[22:56] <EliteHunters> it's getting it to install unto the desktop
[22:56] <sresu_> HmpfCBR: As far as I remember, it used to work for me. that trick
[22:57] <anoneemouse> sresu_: Im not using a laptop either... so most of the other powerdevil settings are disabled
[22:57] <EliteHunters> Now.....I have ran backtrack 3 in live mode on this desktop before
[22:57] <EliteHunters> and that worked fine
[22:57] <HmpfCBR> anoneemouse: intel and nvidia (nvidia drivers), did not test the nvidia with noveau drivers or the ati card yet
[22:58] <anoneemouse> HmpfCBR: it looks like kde thinks im running off a battery... even though its not a laptop, because it looks like its using powesave mode
[22:58] <Seipher> hello
[22:59] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Still its really strange. (Sorry *disk/disc). And the hardware compatibilty issues with your desktop dvd drive is not checked still. But you say it works fine. I would request you to try external CD drive  with power cable for it as last option with CD image burnt
[23:00] <EliteHunters> hmmm
[23:00] <EliteHunters> ok, I can try that
[23:00] <EliteHunters> just gotta get one
[23:00] <sresu_> sresu_: Nothing more I can say now.
[23:00] <HmpfCBR> anoneemouse: when you go to power managmenet settings and check capabilities, does it display batteries? in its general settings you can define under what conditions which profile should be used
[23:00] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Or borrow one
[23:01] <EliteHunters> is it a motherboard problem
[23:01] <EliteHunters> it can't be the dvd drive
[23:01] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Which motherboard? ASUS?
[23:01] <EliteHunters> how would that explain installation into VMWare
[23:01] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Have you cleaned the RAM?
[23:01] <anoneemouse> HmpfCBR:  nope bateries are not suppoerted... so i cant change the settings... but ive changed the powerdevilrc file in .kde manually now to use the long waiting profile for all modes... going to see if that works
[23:01] <EliteHunters> it's a DELL desktop
[23:01] <HmpfCBR> EliteHunters: if you have a 1gig usb stick and your machine supports usb boot try that one
[23:01] <sresu_> EliteHunters: No, don't try to link virtual environment with that. Thats different
[23:02] <EliteHunters> no USB support
[23:02] <sresu_> HmpfCBR: No, he doesn't have that
[23:02] <anoneemouse> now im going to eat and hopefully watch some uninterrupted house
[23:02] <anoneemouse> thanks HmpfCBR and sresu_
[23:02] <HmpfCBR> anoneemouse: have fun and good luck :)
[23:02] <EliteHunters> so you saying installing into VM with a disc in the physical drive isn't the same as installing into a physical HDD
[23:03] <Seipher> anyone have a good article for installing an nvidia driver for gtx 480
[23:03] <tom_> Hi, can anyone tell me how to get skype/pulse audio working with with a USB microphone? (Maverick)
[23:04] <sresu_> EliteHunters: I mean its good that you tested it, but you cannot expect to be sure of hardware components virtually created by virtualbox to be same with actual harware
[23:04] <EliteHunters> ok
[23:04] <sresu_> EliteHunters: and I suppose its at the hardware level now
[23:04] <EliteHunters> possibly
[23:04] <sresu_> EliteHunters: You got to check your DVD drive first.
[23:05] <EliteHunters> make sense
[23:05] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Else, change the RAM and clean it. Check connectivity of HDD and motherboard.
[23:05] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Check connectivity of DVD drive and power cables etc
[23:06] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Start with DVD drive
[23:06] <EliteHunters> well I assume the drive is working
[23:06] <sresu_> EliteHunters: That's all I can say. How old is your system?
[23:06] <sresu_> anoneemouse: Welcome
[23:06] <EliteHunters> cause I placed the kubuntu disc into the drive to install it on VMWare which is installed on the same desktop
[23:07] <EliteHunters> I'd say 7 years
[23:07] <sresu_> EliteHunters: You got to check connectivity, clean it and the RAM as well
[23:08] <sresu_> HmpfCBR: Any other installation method you know?
[23:08] <sresu_> EliteHunters: You didn't say the motherboard, whats its make?
[23:08] <EliteHunters> well, the connectivity checked out
[23:08] <EliteHunters> cables in
[23:08] <EliteHunters> tighten
[23:08] <EliteHunters> all good
[23:08] <HmpfCBR> well usb (worked for every machine for me till now), sd-card (on some machines), cd drive, net install
[23:08] <EliteHunters> can't really say
[23:08] <HmpfCBR> but net install I never tried
[23:08] <sresu_> HmpfCBR: Network install.. yeah
[23:09] <sresu_> HmpfCBR: Umm..
[23:09] <EliteHunters> it's a DELL 4600 model
[23:09] <EliteHunters> can't say off the bat
[23:09] <sresu_> Okay.
[23:09] <EliteHunters> should be an Intel board
[23:09] <HmpfCBR> well googling tells it is probably not working
[23:10] <sresu_> HmpfCBR: What's not working?
[23:10] <EliteHunters> I wouldn't doubt that
[23:10] <HmpfCBR> usb boot
[23:10] <EliteHunters> well USB booting is not in the boot options
[23:10] <EliteHunters> that I can tell you
[23:10] <HmpfCBR> in bios or boot medium chooser (f12) ?
[23:11] <EliteHunters> BIOS
[23:11] <HmpfCBR> hm
[23:11] <EliteHunters> and boot doesn't give you the option with a USB stick jacked in
[23:11] <HmpfCBR> on my netbook a sd card is recognized as a hard disk in bios
[23:11] <HmpfCBR> so I need to change the harddisk order to boot from sd card
[23:11] <HmpfCBR> maybe worth a try
[23:12] <sresu_> I don't think so
[23:12] <EliteHunters> another option is to take a HDD place it in an enclouser
[23:12] <EliteHunters> install from another PC
[23:12] <sresu_> EliteHunters: Have you tried another HDD?
[23:12] <sresu_> No
[23:12] <EliteHunters> and switch in back in
[23:12] <EliteHunters> NO
[23:12] <EliteHunters> haven't tried another HDD
[23:12] <EliteHunters> don't have another here
[23:13] <sresu_> EliteHunters: The method which you saying doesn't work normally
[23:13] <HmpfCBR> EliteHunters: you try to boot from cd or dvd?
[23:13] <EliteHunters> correct
[23:13] <EliteHunters> you see the fuuny thing about this is that
[23:13] <HmpfCBR> EliteHunters: which? cd or dvd?
[23:13] <EliteHunters> backtrack 3 worked from a live cd
[23:13] <EliteHunters> and this doesn't
[23:13] <EliteHunters> DVD
[23:13] <HmpfCBR> that are often two different lasers in a drive
[23:14] <HmpfCBR> so you could try a cd
[23:14] <sresu_> Yes, I alerady sugggested that to him
[23:14] <sresu_> EliteHunters:  Again, check the hardware and report back
[23:14] <EliteHunters> what are the options for a network install
[23:15] <EliteHunters> from the laptop to the desktop
[23:17] <HmpfCBR> can your desktop boot via pxe?
[23:18] <HmpfCBR> there should be documentation for pxe network installs on ubuntu.com
[23:18] <EliteHunters> I'll check it out
[23:19] <sresu_> EliteHunters: You want to try this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet ?
[23:20] <EliteHunters> opening the link now
[23:25] <EliteHunters> it could be the system itself
[23:25] <EliteHunters> cause I'm trying to boot it off the PC
[23:25] <EliteHunters> and the "Start Kubuntu" doesn't even load it's GUI
[23:26] <EliteHunters> just a black screen with the text
[23:27] <EliteHunters> BusyBox v1.15.3 (ubuntu 1:1.15.3-1ubuntu5) built-in shell (ash)
[23:27] <EliteHunters> Enter "help" for a list of built in commands
[23:35] <EliteHunters> sresu_ is there the possibility that the DVD doesn't allow to a certain extent the installion on the system or a older system
[23:37] <EliteHunters> cause I'm at the kubuntu menu on the disc in boot mode
[23:37] <EliteHunters> and there are the additional options
[23:37] <EliteHunters> help
[23:37] <EliteHunters> language
[23:37] <EliteHunters> keymap
[23:37] <EliteHunters> modes
[23:37] <FloodBotK2> EliteHunters: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:37] <EliteHunters> accessibility and other options
[23:39] <EliteHunters> what do you this sresu_
[23:40] <EliteHunters> is there like particular options on the disc to check for the installation on the PC
[23:46] <RadSurfer> how do I manually run the security-update thingie?
[23:46] <RadSurfer> just to update the patches, etc.
[23:48] <anoneemouse> RadSurfer: go to system settings....system administration... software management...updates on the left
[23:49] <RadSurfer> there is not label 'system administration'
[23:50] <anoneemouse> look for software management
[23:50] <anoneemouse> it should be there somewhere
[23:50] <HmpfCBR> RadSurfer: You can also hit F2 and type update into krunner
[23:50] <RadSurfer> there is no 'software management' either
[23:51] <RadSurfer> Ok. "Software Updates" can be found using that Search. Thanks.
[23:51] <HmpfCBR> RadSurfer: sorry that should have been alt+f2
[23:52] <RadSurfer> How would I run that manually, however
[23:52] <RadSurfer> was my question!
[23:53] <RadSurfer> That application is currently running 'software update', how do I find what to type in a Terminal to run it?
[23:53] <HmpfCBR> what do you mean by manually?
[23:53] <HmpfCBR> ah ok
[23:53] <HmpfCBR> aptitude or apt-get what do you prefer?
[23:53] <RadSurfer> I hate how "krunner" does NOT provide you with the run-string :(
[23:53] <RadSurfer> I use apt-get
[23:53] <HmpfCBR> than it is sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:54] <RadSurfer> NO!
[23:54] <RadSurfer> wrong.
[23:54] <RadSurfer> I am not attempting to upgrade the OS
[23:54] <RadSurfer> I only want the patches!
[23:54] <RadSurfer> ie. not trying to change from 10.04 to 10.10
[23:54] <RadSurfer> I just want the normal upgrades
[23:54] <HmpfCBR> that will not happen with that command
[23:54] <RadSurfer> Hmm.
[23:55] <RadSurfer> Is there an article on this?
[23:55] <HmpfCBR> which language?
[23:55] <RadSurfer> English.
[23:56] <HmpfCBR> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/apt-get-question-dist-upgrade-vs-upgrade-219920/
[23:56] <RadSurfer> Thank you.
[23:56] <HmpfCBR> the reason not to use just upgrade is, that it may happen, that you get uncomplete upgrade this way, because for a complete upgrade additional packages are needed. not normal but can happen here and there
[23:58] <RadSurfer> interesting how I never did "the" answer to my original question.
[23:59] <RadSurfer> What application, by name, is launched by Terminal to run 'software updates', but I may try running that string all together :)