[12:06] morning [12:06] good morning Pendulum :) [12:07] how're you nigelb? [12:08] Pendulum: tried. At work. [12:08] :( [12:08] * Pendulum hugs nigelb [12:09] * nigelb hugs Pendulum back [12:36] aloha [12:38] morning czajkowski :) [12:40] so_tired [12:41] * Pendulum hugs czajkowski [12:41] I am really wide awake [12:43] mind if I turn on dryer [12:43] not at all [12:43] i might stick some clothes in the washer while yours are drying [12:43] ok [13:02] morning Pendulum and czajkowski [13:04] Pendulum: czajkowski did you guys go to the party last night? How was it? [13:04] bit of fun [13:05] duanedesign: you gone ? [13:07] czajkowski: yeah I left around 6:30p.m. yesterrday [13:08] czajkowski: i should of done a better job of saying goodbye to everyone. I really enjoyed meeting you and Pendulum [13:09] duanedesign: ye grand, glad you had a good time [13:10] it really was, for lack of a better term, awesome. [13:10] duanedesign: it was good to meet you too [13:30] ok, food! [13:30] I haz chicken rolls, beef rolls, and something cold. [14:06] i want someone appointed to Ubuntu Privacy Council [14:07] or Privacy Director, or Minister of Privacy [14:07] czajkowski, Pendulum: when do you both get out? [14:07] Uh, what would that person do smallfoot- ? [14:08] handle all privacy issues [14:08] make sure that ubuntu does not "leak" private information [14:08] work to increase and strenghten privacy in ubuntu [14:08] work to inform and educate users about privacy [14:09] work to have sensible notifications and warnings about privacy to inform [14:09] handle and investigate privacy reports [14:09] work to use sane default settings that respects privacy [14:09] investigate potential improvements that could be done to increase privacy [14:10] make sure network communication protocols use encryption by default and warn if encryption is not used [14:13] who should i talk with to create such a position? [14:14] probably the community council [14:14] !cc [14:14] Factoid 'cc' not found [14:14] bah [14:21] oh [14:30] smallfoot-: that already exists - its the security team [14:30] * nigelb waves to jussi [14:30] hiya [14:30] oh [14:31] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security [14:32] are they doing a good enough job? [14:32] because if they just are patching things and uploading them to repo, they're not doing a good job [14:32] Mind their job is purely a software job. [14:33] smallfoot-: do you have a specific concern? [14:33] privacy [14:33] sure [14:33] X-Chat does not use SSL when connecting to irc.ubuntu.com by default [14:33] there is no way to clean flash cookies [14:34] file a bug [14:34] there is no tool that cleans browser history of all browsers installed, cleans MRU, etc [14:34] there is a checkbox on bugs for security vulnerabilities [14:34] this isnt a security vulnerability, its a privacy vulnerability [14:35] will chinese dissidents who use ubuntu get tortured because ubuntu has poor security and privacy practices? [14:35] * AlanBell appoints smallfoot- to the job [14:36] smallfoot-: please file bugs - its the best way to get things done [14:36] ok [14:36] not entirely joking either, go right ahead and be that person advocating for privacy across the distro [14:37] that would be a great contribution you could do. File bugs, do the advocacy, educate everyone of the importance of it [14:37] then i would need be officially appointed and reckongnized as such [14:37] do the job, the job title comes later [14:37] ok [14:38] file bugs (and fix some), apply for Ubuntu membership, blog about privacy on planet ubuntu [14:38] maybe set up a privacy team that you can lead when a team is needed for it [14:39] there is someone who used to hang out in the uk loco who works for privacy international and is a bit of a privacy geek [14:40] cool [14:40] I could tell you his name, but then I would have to shoot you [14:40] :) [14:42] nigelb: we both leave Wednesday [14:43] :p [14:45] czajkowski: whoa! [14:45] AlanBell: hah, privacy geek indeed :D [14:46] czajkowski: lucky! [14:48] yarp [14:48] few days being a tourist before the big move [15:09] goedemorgen [15:13] hello sense :) [15:13] hi nigelb! [15:13] How are you? [15:13] Tired. Brain dead. At work :/ [15:13] aw [15:14] I have to move now, the hotels taff wants me to. [15:15] diddums [15:15] czajkowski: I've just got confirmation that I am the new LoCo-contact of Ubuntu NL. You can now scream at me. [15:16] * nigelb screams at sense with senseless words :p [15:16] nigelb: Not you, you silly! [15:21] sense: oh, right, czajkowski :D [15:21] yeah, right! [15:44] Technoviking: ping] [15:44] hello sense [15:44] hi duanedesign [15:45] sense: about to head home? [15:45] duanedesign: Sitting in the lobby writing mails and blog posts. May go on a small trip before heading home. [15:45] sense: ahh, cool idea [15:55] sense: you vacated your room? [15:55] nigelb: Yes, I'm sitting in the lobby right now. [15:55] sense: ah, boring. Head to the airport then :D [15:56] My plane leaves at 19.30 EDT [15:56] It is now 10.56 EDT [15:56] gah, so much time! [15:56] downtown disney? [15:57] or go on the boats by the swan and dolphin/boardwalk resort [15:57] time to head home for some much needed rest. [15:57] laters all! [15:58] see you!