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trijntjeHi all, any news on the screenshot server?21:30
dakerhi22:39
dakertrijntje, ask jenkins22:39
nisshhjenkins, ping22:49
jenkinspong22:50
nisshhjenkins, what is happening with the tex live PPA?22:50
jenkinsthere will not be a new one for ages yet as 2010 has not been packaged22:51
nisshhjenkins, ah ok, any idea when that will be?22:52
jenkinsI am afraid not it depends on how much time the debian latex team has22:52
nisshhjenkins, ah ok, so your waiting for it to get packaged upstream in debian?22:52
jenkinsbasicaly yes. the wait is because they are re writing how they do the packageing, so i can't just run some scripts at the moment as they have not made the new ones yet.22:53
nisshhjenkins, i see, can you let me know when you have got the PPA up then?22:54
jenkinswill do nisshh, i expect a couple of months22:54
nisshhyeah22:54
nisshhthat is annoying22:54
nisshhwaiting on upstream :(22:54
jenkinsyea sorry its far to complex to package my self, i just update the source that the packages are created from normally22:56
nisshhjenkins, ah ok, i can imagine it would be complex, thanks23:00
jenkins:)23:05
flangodbyk, 10.04's been ported to the new server.23:16
flanhttp://flan.uguu.ca:5000/ump/10-0423:16
flanLemme know your OpenID and I'll set you up with admin access.23:17
nisshhflan, sorry i didnt reply the other day, i went afk for a while23:19
nisshhflan, anyway, my question was: would you be willing to host the developer manual screenshots and quickshot server on your server?23:20
flanI don't see why not, nisshh.23:20
flanIt's meant to handle multiple projects.23:20
flanThe only catch is that I can't guarantee 100% uptime.23:21
flanBut I haven't had a major problem in months.23:21
flanAlso, I get really busy with work and other projects sometimes, so I may disappear from the channel for extended periods of time.23:21
flan(e-mail and PMs will always get my attention, though)23:21
nisshhflan, oh great, thanks heaps, i will let the team know :)23:22
nisshhflan, can you just let me know when you have set it up?23:23
flanJust let me know what project name you want and I'll give you full access.23:24
flanI assume they aren't under UMP.23:24
nisshhflan, no, its the Ubuntu Developer Manual23:25
flanGot an OpenID?23:25
nisshhlaunchpad is an openid isnt it?23:25
flanYep.23:25
nisshhyeah, ill use that then23:26
flanhttps://launchpad.net/~<you>23:26
nisshhyeah23:26
flan<you> = nisshh?23:26
nisshhyeah23:26
Muscovyhttp://launchpad.net/+me actually does that automagically.23:26
nisshhflan, i assume i will be able to log onto your server and check the status of the screenshots and which ones have been taken, etc?23:27
MuscovyWait. I thought it did...23:27
nisshhMuscovy, not for openID i dont think, that is just a generic user page anyone can user23:27
nisshhuse23:27
nisshhwhen they are logged in to launchpad23:27
flanhttp://flan.uguu.ca:5000/udm It's all yours, nisshh. (You can remove me as an admin; I just added my ID so I could make sure it looked like it was set up properly)23:28
flanhttp://flan.uguu.ca:5000/ump You've got full access to this, too, so you can see what sorts of options are available.23:28
flan(The test will be removed once we have 10.10 configured)23:28
flanJust log in in the top right with your full OpenID URL.23:29
flanAdmin options are always in the upper right.23:29
nisshhflan, thanks heaps :)23:29
flanLemme know if you find any bugs. We're pretty sure we've caught everything big, but there's always something that's been overlooked.23:29
nisshhflan, will do23:30
godbykflan: My OpenID is http://kevin.godby.org/.  (Though if it fails to forward appropriately, let me know.)23:31
nisshhflan, oh cool, so it looks like i can just grant access to anyone with a launchpad openID23:31
nisshhflan, do i need to provide you with a list of screenshots needed?23:32
flanYou can configure everything through the site, nisshh.23:34
flangodbyk, if your delegate is Google, you may need to reload the page a few times when it complains about the site being invalid.23:34
flanThat's the only issue I've seen with second-generation endpoints.23:35
godbykflan: Ah, nope. I'm using a php openid thing on my site.23:35
flanYou should now have full control over /ump23:35
nisshhflan, ok, thanks23:35
flannisshh, the basic steps will be to create a new "version" (10.10 or something), then populate it and the base project with languages (these are inheritable), then populate the versionw iths creenshots.23:37
flanwith screenshots*23:37
godbykflan: I logged in successfully.23:37
flanClients download the screenshot list every time they get to the effective mainloop.23:37
flanDon't set a username or resolution if you don't have to. Avoiding these options will make it easier for people to contribute.23:38
flan(The username thing forces people to create and log into a new account, and the resolution forces a reconfig)23:38
flanJust play with it, I guess. I can backup the database with a moment's notice, and the data is easy to duplicate, too.23:39
flanAnd I have scripts (included with the source) that allow for versions and projects to be easily removed if you mess up.23:39
flan(You can't do it through the interface to avoid malicious users from doing damage)23:40
flanprevent*23:40
nisshhflan, yeah, i understand it now :)23:41
nisshhflan, this is very cool, btw :)23:41
flanYou can also translate each screenshot's instructions into any supported language.23:41
flanAnd the end user can pick the language that best suits them.23:41
nisshhah yeah23:42
flanProbably a useless feature in practice, but it might help if you plan to reuse instructions between versions.23:42
flanAnd can assume a few major languages.23:42
nisshhflan, is the quickshot client ready to be used with multiple projects? not just the desktop manual?23:42
nisshhyeah23:42
flanThe new one loads based on URLs or .qsproj files.23:42
flanSo it can work with anything.23:42
flanhttp://flan.uguu.ca:5000/ump/10-04/%5Bump%5D10-04.qsproj23:43
flanThat can be accessed through the "Help out!" link on any project page.23:43
flan(Even if the project is private, for technical reasons)23:43
* dutchie applauds flan 23:43
nisshhflan, did you code the whole server side stuff?23:47
flanYeah. Jenkins helped with the client's UI, though.23:48
nisshhflan, i have to say, the server-side stuff is very well designed :)23:48
flanThere are still things I plan to revise before 1.0, but thanks. :)23:49
nisshhsimple, secure, easy to use, etc :)23:49
nisshhyeah23:49
godbykOh, no! Daker's been forked!23:50
flanThis isn't a bad thing. It means we have two of him.23:51
daker_forkhhh23:51
godbykflan: Good point -- so we can get twice as much work done, then, right?23:51
nisshhlol23:52
flanEh... I'm not the right person to ask about work. >.>23:52
daker_forkwhere is ben ?23:53
flanProbably sleeping.23:53
nisshhin the middle of the day?23:53
nisshhits 7am where i am, and he is 4 hours ahead of me lol23:53
flanIsn't he in, like, UTC -8?23:53
nisshhno23:53
nisshhi am + 823:53
flanEr...23:53
nisshhhe is + 1223:53
flanYeah.23:53
flanI meant -16.23:54
flanOr that.23:54
nisshhlol23:54
* flan doesn't know Oceana.23:54
nisshheither23:54
nisshhway23:54
nisshhhe probably is at uni or something23:54
nisshhi havent seen him around since monday23:54
daker_forkit's 10:50 in NZ23:54
nisshhyeah23:54
nisshh10:5423:54
daker_forkhave we made any litlle progress ?23:57

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