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jpdsbazhang: Nice.01:39
bazhangjpds, in #kubuntu (where the wiki offers no cli path) though I guess the ubuntu way would work fine01:40
bazhang<forken> why am I muted on #ubuntu-women ?02:02
bazhangnow sarajevo is joining spamming about that channel and quitting02:33
bazhanggenjix appears to be trying to get a cloak to get around a mute03:27
marienzoh, interesting03:29
marienzthanks for the heads-up03:29
marienzwhich channel?03:29
IdleOne#ubuntu03:29
IdleOnehe is banned in03:29
bazhang#ubuntu  ; was going to remove it though03:29
IdleOnemarienz: how can you put up with some of the language used in defocus?03:30
marienzI'm only paying a very small fraction of my attention to #defocus03:30
IdleOneI don't mean you personally but the staff03:30
bazhanghehe03:31
marienzI'm in well over 100 channels03:31
marienzI only caught qpt` just now because he's a repeat troll I have hilighted03:31
IdleOneoh I know. I am just amazed at some of the stupidity I see in there03:31
marienza couple of my fellow staffers have a bunch of bad words hilighted and remind peple not to use them when they're triggered03:31
marienz#defocus is a bit of a pit because it's the standard forward target for offtopic chat *everywhere*03:31
marienzand the only active ops are channel staff, and frankly we have saner social channels to be social in03:32
marienzerr, freenode staff03:32
marienzsorry, it's late03:32
marienzthis is a problem we've been unable to really fix03:32
marienz(perhaps we should appoint non-freenode-staff ops?)03:32
bazhangcore dna of irc03:32
IdleOnemarienz: that's an idea03:32
marienzqpt` is now informing other channels of my habit of raping little kids, sigh03:33
IdleOnecan't you just completely block the use of any nick with the letters qpt in it03:34
IdleOnenot that it would make them stop03:34
IdleOnein fact it would make it worse03:34
IdleOnenever mind that idea03:34
marienzheh03:34
marienzyes (to all of that :)03:35
IdleOneit would be seen as a badge of honor03:35
IdleOne"look! I got to them so much they blocked my nick!"03:35
marienzI am completely ok with people abusing me, since it means they're not abusing someone else at that time03:35
IdleOnemarienz: :)03:35
marienzalso, I prefer if people stick to predictable nicks like this one, instead of having to evade, making it that much harder for me to catch them and get rid of them for a bit03:35
nhandlerbazhang: Even with a cloak, the quiet on his IP address should be good. If he actually evades, we can deal with that.04:09
bazhangnhandler, okay, thanks!04:12
ubottuIn ubottu, rww said: !forget qtparted04:32
ubottuIn ubottu, rww said: !no, disks is <reply> For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/switching/C/installing-partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab, !home, and !swap.04:33
ubotturww called the ops in #ubuntu (incog: offensive, ban-evading)04:47
IdleOneklined04:47
marienzsiiiigh04:48
marienzI'll end up with half of verizon wireless klined at this rate04:48
marienzI wish he'd find himself a different hobby04:48
nhandlerI set a slightly narrower quiet in #ubuntu than what we have in #freenode. Hopefully, he doesn't change his nick04:48
IdleOnethank you nhandler04:49
nhandlerIdleOne: No problem. I unset your quiet simply because he has been changing IPs for a while now04:49
IdleOneyeah i figured as much, that's why i didn't bother with setting a ban04:49
IdleOneI find it confusing how someone how claims so much hate for homosexuals is always asking for sexual favors04:50
IdleOnes/how/who04:51
nhandlerA lot of trolls simply are trying to trigger a response04:51
IdleOneI think there's some Freudian stuff going on with most of these trolls04:51
nhandlerMy Psychology teacher would disagree ;)04:53
IdleOneheh04:53
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from randal_)05:31
ikoniahello hypatia09:16
bazhang* |alucard| (~kvirc@222.127.74.207) I think idoru may have miskilled him10:03
bazhangaborticide seems intent on being an issue10:16
aborticidebazhang: what was that for? he offered to help in french, clearly after you told the french guy to go to ubuntu-fr ?10:17
bazhangaborticide, your whole attitude over the last ten minutes or so10:18
aborticidewhat do you mean? right after you muted me a guy asked me for help as i was helping him, and another fellow said 'thanks' to me10:18
aborticideokay i'll take the time-out and let things cool off, how long for?10:19
bazhangsomeone asked something in Chinese, and you responded with "fascinating, tell us more"10:19
aborticideyes, it was a friendly joke, did you miss the exclamation point?10:19
bazhangsebastien asked who spoke French and you responded "moi"10:19
aborticidealso i said 'please tell me more'10:19
aborticidenot 'talk more in chinese'10:19
aborticidebazhang: that was before you told him to go to #ubuntu-fr, clearly my intention was not the same as his10:20
bazhangbeing overly aggressive with others such as ectospasm10:20
aborticideoverly aggressive? what?!10:20
bazhangthis is not the first instance of such behavior either.10:20
aborticideah i'm sorry, i will not violently verbally mutilate him with such statements as 'this is an english channel'10:21
aborticidejust let me know if its a permanent timeout, so i don't waste your resources and my resources attempting to rejoin in the future10:22
bazhangvery few perma-mutes/bans etc.10:22
bazhangplease have a read of the code of conduct and the guidelines10:22
bazhanghttp://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines10:23
aborticidenay, i'm familiar with them10:23
aborticideyou're being overly aggressive with me10:24
aborticideimplying i'm out of control, implying i don't know the code of conduct, implying the code of conduct and guidelines are too separate things. you're undermining me10:25
bazhangyou were simply muted to discuss this. not kicked nor banned.10:26
aborticideare you aware you're being passive-agressive when i have to ask you for the third time, how long is the time-out?10:28
bazhangaborticide, normally a user would simply agree to read the code of conduct and guidelines and we could move forward.10:29
aborticideclearly, i'm wasting my time, isn't it so?10:31
bazhangnot agreeing to read the code of conduct or guidelines, nor alter your behavior in #ubuntu ?10:32
aborticideyou're changing the subject now10:32
bazhangthat's what will get the mute lifted.10:33
aborticidei'm not trying to change your mind, i want you to clarify that's all10:33
bazhangI thought I did.10:33
aborticidenay , this is the fourth time i'm asking you, how long is the time-out for?10:33
bazhangaborticide, no set limit, as you have not done the necessary things to move this forward.10:34
aborticidetime-out's are not measured in if's and but's10:34
aborticidei'm not capable of providing you with whatever it is you seek, it's not defined10:34
bazhangshould you wish to do those three things, then we can move forward.10:34
bazhangread the code of conduct. read the guidelines. take a much less argumentative / aggressive approach to other users in #ubuntu10:36
aborticideokay it is done, i'm ready to move forward10:36
aborticidei was reading over it all in the side bar10:36
bazhangso you know why you were muted then?10:36
aborticideyes10:37
bazhangaborticide, and that reason was ?10:37
aborticidebecause i was overly aggressive and abusive, and it was not funny at all10:37
aborticidei have learned that i should take a more liberal approach to the rules10:37
aborticidesuch as not harassing and verbally forcing people to reconsider their last statements10:38
aborticideit was wrong and i dearly apologize, if not from the point of compassion, but from the point of resource management10:38
bazhangnot quite sure by what you mean by "liberal approach to the rules"10:38
aborticidei have issues in controlling myself when the opportunity presents itself, but i am merely human10:38
aborticidei try my best to progress, mentally, as humans, but also as machines (the state of mind of), when performing repetitive tasks in machine form10:39
aborticidei'd also like to apologise on behalf of zteam and sunit of #ubuntu, for misleading them into thinking i would be able to provide them with uninterrupted support10:40
aborticideit was wrong and vile10:40
bazhangaborticide, you seem to be sarcastic here10:40
aborticidenay, i am quite sincere, since nothing is clearly not exagerated10:41
bazhangokay well perhaps we can revisit this in 24 hours time.10:41
aborticideperhaps i can provide some contrast by giving an example of sarcasm; "i guess my nickname would have hinted at more positive things"10:41
aborticidedo you see the difference? how can i assist my case?10:41
bazhangaborticide, please feel free to re-join here in 24 hours time and we can visit this again.10:42
aborticidein closing i'd like to thank you for answering my question, finally. i have learned that i am able to become a catalyst, even in the most nerve-racking of situations10:42
aborticidebrb getting macaronies10:43
aborticideback, they were some leftovers10:45
bazhangaborticide, okay well lets visit this again in 24 hours, feel free to re-join here and discuss again.10:46
aborticidei have given it my utmost best in being as detailed as possible, in hope of doing a monte-carlo approach to getting myself out of this predicament. i have failed and do not see any hope in returning, as 100% is the most i can give10:46
aborticidei just thought of another example of sarcasm, would you like to hear it?10:50
aborticidei'll assume yes, since it is quite hilarious and conveys a positive vibe, which i hope we can both enjoy:10:53
aborticidehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/passiveaggressive/4443887659/10:53
bazhangaborticide, please re-join here in 24 hours to discuss.11:16
Seeker`aborticide: please don't idle in here11:48
Jordan_Usilver__ is trolling in #ubuntu11:57
Seeker`aborticide: please don't idle here12:06
Seeker`!ops | aborticide12:16
ubottuaborticide: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) -  Tm_T, tritium, elky, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, imbrandon, PriceChild, Madpilot, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, tsimpson, gnomefreak, jussi, topyli, or nhandler!12:16
ubottuSeeker` called the ops in #ubuntu-ops (aborticide)12:16
Tm_T....ops call while I was already on it <312:20
Seeker`:)12:21
Seeker`don't say that12:21
Seeker`just claim you have lightning fast ninja reactions12:21
Tm_TSeeker`: I feel that the ops cal was unnecessary considering nothing was going on here12:29
Seeker`well, it needed an op to do it, and its a good way of getting hold of an op. I assumed that no ops were actually looking at the channel, or they'd have said something or done something in the 90 minutes before my ops call12:30
bazhangI considered the matter closed and saw no reason to continue12:32
Tm_The wasn't an any issue currently, so it could've waited, but ok this way too I guess12:32
bazhang* [dddddfdf] (~petr@90.155.218.137): petr User  in #kubuntu13:02
bazhang<dddddfdf> waffen ss13:04
ikonianot him again13:04
bazhangyep multiple bans on that user iirc13:04
ikoniawhere is he now ?13:08
ikoniakubuntu13:08
Tm_TI removed him13:09
ikoniaso I see13:09
ubottuIn ubottu, pksadiq said: !test is <reply> testing ....16:07
flyguyhi18:21
flyguycan you guys help me get unbanned from #ubuntu18:21
IdleOnegive me a minute flyguy to see what is up18:24
IdleOne@btlogin18:24
IdleOneflyguy seems you were banned for something offtopic and sexual in nature18:26
flyguyno18:26
flyguynot me18:26
IdleOneyes you18:26
flyguymaybe someone else caused it18:26
flyguyi just barely got here18:26
IdleOneit was on Sep 2718:27
IdleOne2010-09-27T19:31:58 <flyguy> anyone want to have netsex?18:27
IdleOne2010-09-27T19:32:12 *** flyguy (flyguy!flyguy@pool-98-112-79-86.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) has left #ubuntu (requested by Pici (flyguy))18:27
IdleOneexact same ip18:27
flyguyi will be good18:27
flyguyplease unabn me18:28
flyguyplease18:28
IdleOneflyguy going to send you a couple of links I would like you to read ok18:28
IdleOne!guidelines18:28
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines18:28
IdleOne!codeofconduct18:28
ubottuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct is a community etiquette document to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere, and can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ .  For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct .18:28
ikoniaflyguy: was that you who made those comments, yes/no ?18:28
flyguyno18:29
IdleOnethe channel logs say different flyguy18:29
ikoniaflyguy: who was it ?18:29
IdleOneflyguy could you please answer ikonia18:31
flyguywhy would I know?18:33
ikoniaflyguy: because it is using your username and network18:34
ikoniaflyguy: things go a lot easier if you tell the truth18:34
ikoniaflyguy: considering your "new" you know how to get into #ubuntu-devel which suggests you've been around the ubuntu channels before18:34
flyguyi have mental illness problems18:36
flyguyi do not want to cause harm t5o anyone18:36
ikoniaflyguy: your illness has no bearing on what goes on here18:36
ikoniaflyguy: I'm asking simple questions18:37
flyguyi was insane at the time of the incident18:37
flyguywhat do you expect of me?18:37
ikoniaoh so it was you18:37
ikoniaok - well your not insane now, you're just telling lies18:37
flyguywho is who, whaty?18:38
ikoniaflyguy: the ban won't be lifted at this time, your welcome to come back at a later date when you feel you can tell the truth18:38
flyguyis there an alternative channel rather than #ubuntu whereas I am apparently banned?18:38
ikoniaflyguy: we are not a yellow pages of irc channels, please view freenode.net about how to use the network18:38
flyguyhow do i go about doing that?18:39
ikoniaflyguy: open a browser, and visit http://www.freenode.net18:39
flyguyokay thanks18:39
ikoniano problem18:39
ikoniabye18:39
IdleOneflyguy Please part this channel. There is a no idle rule in here. thank you18:41
ubottuIn ubottu, sresu said: <-> zonac is now known as sergiogc18:44
sresuSorry that was not edit request18:44
IdleOneno worries sresu18:44
sresuTypo.18:44
sresuYeah :)18:45
tonyyarussoBotmasters, this isn't correct:  13:56:34 < ubottu> 'dapper' is not a valid distribution:19:57
flyguyhi20:48
flyguycan you guys please unban me from #ubuntu20:48
flyguyplease, i am a good person who will do good20:48
ubottuhypatia called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic ()21:31
Seeker`flyguy: please don't idle in here21:57
ikoniaflyguy: youwhere told the ban will not be removed21:58
Seeker`ikonia: I would call an op to remove him21:59
Seeker`but Tm  _ T said I shouldn't do that earlier21:59
ikoniaSeeker`: he'll time out shortly based on his recent connections21:59
Seeker`ikonia: well, he has been here for over an hour now21:59
ikoniaI didn't notice him come back, or I'd have spoke to him sooner22:03
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (BANLIST FULL, REMOVE SOME BANS)22:22
ikonia??22:22
ikoniawhy do floodbots keep setting ban fowards to #u-proxy-users22:23
flyguyhi22:45
flyguycould you guys please unban me from #ubuntu. I promise to be good and not mess up22:45

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