[01:39] <jpds> bazhang: Nice.
[01:40] <bazhang> jpds, in #kubuntu (where the wiki offers no cli path) though I guess the ubuntu way would work fine
 why am I muted on #ubuntu-women ?
[02:33] <bazhang> now sarajevo is joining spamming about that channel and quitting
[03:27] <bazhang> genjix appears to be trying to get a cloak to get around a mute
[03:29] <marienz> oh, interesting
[03:29] <marienz> thanks for the heads-up
[03:29] <marienz> which channel?
[03:29] <IdleOne> #ubuntu
[03:29] <IdleOne> he is banned in
[03:29] <bazhang> #ubuntu  ; was going to remove it though
[03:30] <IdleOne> marienz: how can you put up with some of the language used in defocus?
[03:30] <marienz> I'm only paying a very small fraction of my attention to #defocus
[03:30] <IdleOne> I don't mean you personally but the staff
[03:31] <bazhang> hehe
[03:31] <marienz> I'm in well over 100 channels
[03:31] <marienz> I only caught qpt` just now because he's a repeat troll I have hilighted
[03:31] <IdleOne> oh I know. I am just amazed at some of the stupidity I see in there
[03:31] <marienz> a couple of my fellow staffers have a bunch of bad words hilighted and remind peple not to use them when they're triggered
[03:31] <marienz> #defocus is a bit of a pit because it's the standard forward target for offtopic chat *everywhere*
[03:32] <marienz> and the only active ops are channel staff, and frankly we have saner social channels to be social in
[03:32] <marienz> err, freenode staff
[03:32] <marienz> sorry, it's late
[03:32] <marienz> this is a problem we've been unable to really fix
[03:32] <marienz> (perhaps we should appoint non-freenode-staff ops?)
[03:32] <bazhang> core dna of irc
[03:32] <IdleOne> marienz: that's an idea
[03:33] <marienz> qpt` is now informing other channels of my habit of raping little kids, sigh
[03:34] <IdleOne> can't you just completely block the use of any nick with the letters qpt in it
[03:34] <IdleOne> not that it would make them stop
[03:34] <IdleOne> in fact it would make it worse
[03:34] <IdleOne> never mind that idea
[03:34] <marienz> heh
[03:35] <marienz> yes (to all of that :)
[03:35] <IdleOne> it would be seen as a badge of honor
[03:35] <IdleOne> "look! I got to them so much they blocked my nick!"
[03:35] <marienz> I am completely ok with people abusing me, since it means they're not abusing someone else at that time
[03:35] <IdleOne> marienz: :)
[03:35] <marienz> also, I prefer if people stick to predictable nicks like this one, instead of having to evade, making it that much harder for me to catch them and get rid of them for a bit
[04:09] <nhandler> bazhang: Even with a cloak, the quiet on his IP address should be good. If he actually evades, we can deal with that.
[04:12] <bazhang> nhandler, okay, thanks!
[04:47] <IdleOne> klined
[04:48] <marienz> siiiigh
[04:48] <marienz> I'll end up with half of verizon wireless klined at this rate
[04:48] <marienz> I wish he'd find himself a different hobby
[04:48] <nhandler> I set a slightly narrower quiet in #ubuntu than what we have in #freenode. Hopefully, he doesn't change his nick
[04:49] <IdleOne> thank you nhandler
[04:49] <nhandler> IdleOne: No problem. I unset your quiet simply because he has been changing IPs for a while now
[04:49] <IdleOne> yeah i figured as much, that's why i didn't bother with setting a ban
[04:50] <IdleOne> I find it confusing how someone how claims so much hate for homosexuals is always asking for sexual favors
[04:51] <IdleOne> s/how/who
[04:51] <nhandler> A lot of trolls simply are trying to trigger a response
[04:51] <IdleOne> I think there's some Freudian stuff going on with most of these trolls
[04:53] <nhandler> My Psychology teacher would disagree ;)
[04:53] <IdleOne> heh
[09:16] <ikonia> hello hypatia
[10:03] <bazhang> * |alucard| (~kvirc@222.127.74.207) I think idoru may have miskilled him
[10:16] <bazhang> aborticide seems intent on being an issue
[10:17] <aborticide> bazhang: what was that for? he offered to help in french, clearly after you told the french guy to go to ubuntu-fr ?
[10:18] <bazhang> aborticide, your whole attitude over the last ten minutes or so
[10:18] <aborticide> what do you mean? right after you muted me a guy asked me for help as i was helping him, and another fellow said 'thanks' to me
[10:19] <aborticide> okay i'll take the time-out and let things cool off, how long for?
[10:19] <bazhang> someone asked something in Chinese, and you responded with "fascinating, tell us more"
[10:19] <aborticide> yes, it was a friendly joke, did you miss the exclamation point?
[10:19] <bazhang> sebastien asked who spoke French and you responded "moi"
[10:19] <aborticide> also i said 'please tell me more'
[10:19] <aborticide> not 'talk more in chinese'
[10:20] <aborticide> bazhang: that was before you told him to go to #ubuntu-fr, clearly my intention was not the same as his
[10:20] <bazhang> being overly aggressive with others such as ectospasm
[10:20] <aborticide> overly aggressive? what?!
[10:20] <bazhang> this is not the first instance of such behavior either.
[10:21] <aborticide> ah i'm sorry, i will not violently verbally mutilate him with such statements as 'this is an english channel'
[10:22] <aborticide> just let me know if its a permanent timeout, so i don't waste your resources and my resources attempting to rejoin in the future
[10:22] <bazhang> very few perma-mutes/bans etc.
[10:22] <bazhang> please have a read of the code of conduct and the guidelines
[10:23] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[10:23] <aborticide> nay, i'm familiar with them
[10:24] <aborticide> you're being overly aggressive with me
[10:25] <aborticide> implying i'm out of control, implying i don't know the code of conduct, implying the code of conduct and guidelines are too separate things. you're undermining me
[10:26] <bazhang> you were simply muted to discuss this. not kicked nor banned.
[10:28] <aborticide> are you aware you're being passive-agressive when i have to ask you for the third time, how long is the time-out?
[10:29] <bazhang> aborticide, normally a user would simply agree to read the code of conduct and guidelines and we could move forward.
[10:31] <aborticide> clearly, i'm wasting my time, isn't it so?
[10:32] <bazhang> not agreeing to read the code of conduct or guidelines, nor alter your behavior in #ubuntu ?
[10:32] <aborticide> you're changing the subject now
[10:33] <bazhang> that's what will get the mute lifted.
[10:33] <aborticide> i'm not trying to change your mind, i want you to clarify that's all
[10:33] <bazhang> I thought I did.
[10:33] <aborticide> nay , this is the fourth time i'm asking you, how long is the time-out for?
[10:34] <bazhang> aborticide, no set limit, as you have not done the necessary things to move this forward.
[10:34] <aborticide> time-out's are not measured in if's and but's
[10:34] <aborticide> i'm not capable of providing you with whatever it is you seek, it's not defined
[10:34] <bazhang> should you wish to do those three things, then we can move forward.
[10:36] <bazhang> read the code of conduct. read the guidelines. take a much less argumentative / aggressive approach to other users in #ubuntu
[10:36] <aborticide> okay it is done, i'm ready to move forward
[10:36] <aborticide> i was reading over it all in the side bar
[10:36] <bazhang> so you know why you were muted then?
[10:37] <aborticide> yes
[10:37] <bazhang> aborticide, and that reason was ?
[10:37] <aborticide> because i was overly aggressive and abusive, and it was not funny at all
[10:37] <aborticide> i have learned that i should take a more liberal approach to the rules
[10:38] <aborticide> such as not harassing and verbally forcing people to reconsider their last statements
[10:38] <aborticide> it was wrong and i dearly apologize, if not from the point of compassion, but from the point of resource management
[10:38] <bazhang> not quite sure by what you mean by "liberal approach to the rules"
[10:38] <aborticide> i have issues in controlling myself when the opportunity presents itself, but i am merely human
[10:39] <aborticide> i try my best to progress, mentally, as humans, but also as machines (the state of mind of), when performing repetitive tasks in machine form
[10:40] <aborticide> i'd also like to apologise on behalf of zteam and sunit of #ubuntu, for misleading them into thinking i would be able to provide them with uninterrupted support
[10:40] <aborticide> it was wrong and vile
[10:40] <bazhang> aborticide, you seem to be sarcastic here
[10:41] <aborticide> nay, i am quite sincere, since nothing is clearly not exagerated
[10:41] <bazhang> okay well perhaps we can revisit this in 24 hours time.
[10:41] <aborticide> perhaps i can provide some contrast by giving an example of sarcasm; "i guess my nickname would have hinted at more positive things"
[10:41] <aborticide> do you see the difference? how can i assist my case?
[10:42] <bazhang> aborticide, please feel free to re-join here in 24 hours time and we can visit this again.
[10:42] <aborticide> in closing i'd like to thank you for answering my question, finally. i have learned that i am able to become a catalyst, even in the most nerve-racking of situations
[10:43] <aborticide> brb getting macaronies
[10:45] <aborticide> back, they were some leftovers
[10:46] <bazhang> aborticide, okay well lets visit this again in 24 hours, feel free to re-join here and discuss again.
[10:46] <aborticide> i have given it my utmost best in being as detailed as possible, in hope of doing a monte-carlo approach to getting myself out of this predicament. i have failed and do not see any hope in returning, as 100% is the most i can give
[10:50] <aborticide> i just thought of another example of sarcasm, would you like to hear it?
[10:53] <aborticide> i'll assume yes, since it is quite hilarious and conveys a positive vibe, which i hope we can both enjoy:
[10:53] <aborticide> http://www.flickr.com/photos/passiveaggressive/4443887659/
[11:16] <bazhang> aborticide, please re-join here in 24 hours to discuss.
[11:48] <Seeker`> aborticide: please don't idle in here
[11:57] <Jordan_U> silver__ is trolling in #ubuntu
[12:06] <Seeker`> aborticide: please don't idle here
[12:16] <Seeker`> !ops | aborticide
[12:20] <Tm_T> ....ops call while I was already on it <3
[12:21] <Seeker`> :)
[12:21] <Seeker`> don't say that
[12:21] <Seeker`> just claim you have lightning fast ninja reactions
[12:29] <Tm_T> Seeker`: I feel that the ops cal was unnecessary considering nothing was going on here
[12:30] <Seeker`> well, it needed an op to do it, and its a good way of getting hold of an op. I assumed that no ops were actually looking at the channel, or they'd have said something or done something in the 90 minutes before my ops call
[12:32] <bazhang> I considered the matter closed and saw no reason to continue
[12:32] <Tm_T> he wasn't an any issue currently, so it could've waited, but ok this way too I guess
[13:02] <bazhang> * [dddddfdf] (~petr@90.155.218.137): petr User  in #kubuntu
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[13:04] <ikonia> not him again
[13:04] <bazhang> yep multiple bans on that user iirc
[13:08] <ikonia> where is he now ?
[13:08] <ikonia> kubuntu
[13:09] <Tm_T> I removed him
[13:09] <ikonia> so I see
[18:21] <flyguy> hi
[18:21] <flyguy> can you guys help me get unbanned from #ubuntu
[18:24] <IdleOne> give me a minute flyguy to see what is up
[18:24] <IdleOne> @btlogin
[18:26] <IdleOne> flyguy seems you were banned for something offtopic and sexual in nature
[18:26] <flyguy> no
[18:26] <flyguy> not me
[18:26] <IdleOne> yes you
[18:26] <flyguy> maybe someone else caused it
[18:26] <flyguy> i just barely got here
[18:27] <IdleOne> it was on Sep 27
[18:27] <IdleOne> 2010-09-27T19:31:58 <flyguy> anyone want to have netsex?
[18:27] <IdleOne> 2010-09-27T19:32:12 *** flyguy (flyguy!flyguy@pool-98-112-79-86.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) has left #ubuntu (requested by Pici (flyguy))
[18:27] <IdleOne> exact same ip
[18:27] <flyguy> i will be good
[18:28] <flyguy> please unabn me
[18:28] <flyguy> please
[18:28] <IdleOne> flyguy going to send you a couple of links I would like you to read ok
[18:28] <IdleOne> !guidelines
[18:28] <IdleOne> !codeofconduct
[18:28] <ikonia> flyguy: was that you who made those comments, yes/no ?
[18:29] <flyguy> no
[18:29] <IdleOne> the channel logs say different flyguy
[18:29] <ikonia> flyguy: who was it ?
[18:31] <IdleOne> flyguy could you please answer ikonia
[18:33] <flyguy> why would I know?
[18:34] <ikonia> flyguy: because it is using your username and network
[18:34] <ikonia> flyguy: things go a lot easier if you tell the truth
[18:34] <ikonia> flyguy: considering your "new" you know how to get into #ubuntu-devel which suggests you've been around the ubuntu channels before
[18:36] <flyguy> i have mental illness problems
[18:36] <flyguy> i do not want to cause harm t5o anyone
[18:36] <ikonia> flyguy: your illness has no bearing on what goes on here
[18:37] <ikonia> flyguy: I'm asking simple questions
[18:37] <flyguy> i was insane at the time of the incident
[18:37] <flyguy> what do you expect of me?
[18:37] <ikonia> oh so it was you
[18:37] <ikonia> ok - well your not insane now, you're just telling lies
[18:38] <flyguy> who is who, whaty?
[18:38] <ikonia> flyguy: the ban won't be lifted at this time, your welcome to come back at a later date when you feel you can tell the truth
[18:38] <flyguy> is there an alternative channel rather than #ubuntu whereas I am apparently banned?
[18:38] <ikonia> flyguy: we are not a yellow pages of irc channels, please view freenode.net about how to use the network
[18:39] <flyguy> how do i go about doing that?
[18:39] <ikonia> flyguy: open a browser, and visit http://www.freenode.net
[18:39] <flyguy> okay thanks
[18:39] <ikonia> no problem
[18:39] <ikonia> bye
[18:41] <IdleOne> flyguy Please part this channel. There is a no idle rule in here. thank you
[18:44] <sresu> Sorry that was not edit request
[18:44] <IdleOne> no worries sresu
[18:44] <sresu> Typo.
[18:45] <sresu> Yeah :)
[19:57] <tonyyarusso> Botmasters, this isn't correct:  13:56:34 < ubottu> 'dapper' is not a valid distribution:
[20:48] <flyguy> hi
[20:48] <flyguy> can you guys please unban me from #ubuntu
[20:48] <flyguy> please, i am a good person who will do good
[21:57] <Seeker`> flyguy: please don't idle in here
[21:58] <ikonia> flyguy: youwhere told the ban will not be removed
[21:59] <Seeker`> ikonia: I would call an op to remove him
[21:59] <Seeker`> but Tm  _ T said I shouldn't do that earlier
[21:59] <ikonia> Seeker`: he'll time out shortly based on his recent connections
[21:59] <Seeker`> ikonia: well, he has been here for over an hour now
[22:03] <ikonia> I didn't notice him come back, or I'd have spoke to him sooner
[22:22] <ikonia> ??
[22:23] <ikonia> why do floodbots keep setting ban fowards to #u-proxy-users
[22:45] <flyguy> hi
[22:45] <flyguy> could you guys please unban me from #ubuntu. I promise to be good and not mess up