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CarlFKtopic have 10.04 changed to https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/00:58
CarlFKis there a package I can apt-get that will set the "different Kernel options" somewhat described on https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/preparing-to-install.html#intro-server-differences01:11
pmatulisCarlFK: you need to recompile the kernel in order to have different options01:21
pmatulisCarlFK: why do you want to change the kernel?01:22
CarlFKpmatulis: mainly experimenting - it's just a p4 box in my basement that I will use for a proxy, so doesn't really matter01:24
CarlFKI am guessing there is a package that contains the -server kernel? (I know the installer doesn't compile it on the fly.. that would be generally too much trouble :)01:24
pmatulisCarlFK: there are some wiki pages that describe how to compile the kernel.  i suggest you stick to ubuntu-specific instructions01:25
CarlFKyou mean like this one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CarlKarsten  "My kernel howto" :)01:28
CarlFKlike I said... I don't want to compile - I want to use whatever the installer installs.  just having trouble figuring out what it installs01:29
CarlFKhere we go:linux-server - Complete Linux kernel on Server Equipment.01:30
pmatulisCarlFK: try to find some official ubuntu documentation01:45
EjdesgaardHi, i'm running 10.10 desktop and have installed qemu, kvm and virt-manager. I have setup a bridge and want to use it on a guest, but i can't see the bridge when i start virt-manager as a normal user (with libvirtd group)... how can i fix this?01:46
Ejdesgaardi have tried to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking but i can't get it working01:47
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nerdy_kidhello, I am trying to fix my ftp server and need to know, what are the 39 68 numbers in this message? "227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,1,2,39,68)"  I think that they are port numbers but they do not relate to tcpdump output.01:59
nerdy_kidI am trying to get passive ftp to work (i have a router).02:00
pmatulisEjdesgaard: you need to connect to libvirtd in system mode02:03
Ejdesgaardpmatulis, how?02:06
pmatulisEjdesgaard: you add a local connection to virt-manager02:10
pmatulisEjdesgaard: you want to see 'localhost (QEMU)' in the menu02:10
Ejdesgaardpmatulis, i have "localhost (QEMU Usermode)"02:12
pmatulisEjdesgaard: exactly, you don't want that02:12
pmatulisEjdesgaard: you want system mode02:12
Ejdesgaardi want to be able to choose br0 NAT for the NIC on a client. and i would like to be able to do it without "sudo virt-manager"02:13
pmatulisEjdesgaard: i'm trying to tell you how02:14
Ejdesgaardpmatulis, virt-manager -c qemu://system was the answer :)02:19
Ejdesgaardthanks for the help02:19
pmatulisEjdesgaard: keep on truckin'02:19
pmatulisEjdesgaard: but you should be able to add a connection to get that02:20
pmatulisEjdesgaard: i just tried it02:20
Ejdesgaardhmm... yes02:21
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jdimatteopmatulis: thanks (please excuse my delayed response)02:52
fishsceneGreetings. I realize this might be a VSFTP problem, but I'm not sure...  I'm trying to get a vsftp server running on an Ubuntu installation. I need to change the port from the default of 21. I'm able to successfully change the port, but the "list" command doesn't execute properly. I suspect because the server is trying to send information to the client over port 20. I tried changing that too, but to no avail. Does anyone know how to chan03:34
fishscenenvm. topic moved to #ubuntu03:38
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domashi!04:15
domasdoes anyone know why XFS/LVM/mdadm snapshots are corrupt in 10.04? :)04:15
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uvirtbotNew bug: #668617 in mysql-5.1 (main) "mysql-server fails to configure and install under dpkg" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66861704:36
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drcodehi all06:07
drcodeis there software that mount disk automticly in console?06:07
BlackJamManare there any console email checkers other than mail, and pine ?06:45
CarlFKBlackJamMan: tons.  elm and mutt come to mind06:57
BlackJamManCarlFK: eh I'll just have to wait on the system admin I think.  I can read it with more /var/spool/mail/myuser though07:01
Error404NotFoundQuick Poll: what is better, LTS or non LTS for a server? [In the dilemma of Upgrade/Do not Upgrade/Upgrade/Do not upgrade]07:35
joschiError404NotFound: LTS07:39
joschiError404NotFound: well, at least if it's a productive system. if you just want to play, go with whatever you like07:40
Error404NotFoundjoschi, and the last plucked petal also says LTS/Do not Upgrade :)07:40
joschiError404NotFound: that's one smart flower ;)07:41
Error404NotFoundjoschi, ofcourse, it belongs to me afterall :) ^_^07:41
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jaakkop'ello09:08
RoyK 09:43
jaakkopHmm, does anyone use ufw for gateway + firewall?10:09
RoyKjaakkop: for fw, yes10:41
jaakkopI was just wondering what would be the most suitable solution for a home router.10:44
RoyKjaakkop: dedicated router?10:45
RoyKor server/router/something?10:45
jaakkopA small server used as my home network's router among other things.10:46
RoyKok, ufw can be used with that quite easily10:47
jaakkopYeah10:47
Zeu5hi there, i have the following dir /var/www/folder which has the permissions username:username drwxrwxr-x i want my apache to be able to access this folder and write new files. currently it cannot. please advise.10:48
RoyKthat is - last I checked ufw doesn't have any built-in stuff for NAT, so you need to do that manually with iptables (which is the underlying infrastructure under ufw)10:48
RoyKZeu5: with 775 permissions, as you have, only user and group can write there10:49
jaakkopI know. I'm just wondering it's the best solution for a gw+fw. :-)10:49
RoyKI'd say pfSense :)10:49
Zeu5RoyK:thank you for your response.  so i have no choice but to make it 777?10:49
RoyKZeu5: or make sure www-data is in the same group...10:50
Error404NotFoundI rebooted my server after upgrade, everything wine fine, it loads fine, except that i don't see a prompt on console...10:50
RoyKZeu5: or use posix ACLs10:50
jaakkopI think I'll just use ufw for now then...10:50
Zeu5RoyK: i am unfamiliar with either option. i am new to ubuntu. which option would you advise to someone like me?10:50
RoyKZeu5: ls -ld dirname - that shows you which user/group owns the file - vi /etc/group and add www-data to that group10:51
* RoyK hands Zeu5 a 'learning unix systems' bible10:52
Zeu5RoyK: thank you :)10:52
Zeu5RoyK: which book would that be? not all such books are created equally. would love to hear what book an expert like yourself would recommend to me10:53
RoyKsorry - I really don't know10:56
* RoyK has never had a book about linux, but then, he installed his first linux box back in 1994 and is still learning10:57
Zeu5RoyK: that is cool. I am learning too. thanks for your coaching :) :)10:58
SAngeliwhat tool to use to inquiry a seral port modem to see all specs and which seral port is connected?11:01
RoyKSAngeli: minicom?11:04
SAngelithank you. I was able to get wvdialconf to work as of now11:04
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RoyKSAngeli: are you using a modem for dialup?11:05
Zeu5RoyK: it worked!!!!!!!!11:05
* RoyK is slightly impressed someone still uses that technology11:05
SAngeliRoyK, :-) Am using a modem for fax services11:05
SAngeliam trying to install Hylafax11:05
Zeu5RoyK: thank you thank you :) :)11:05
RoyKSAngeli: ah11:05
RoyKZeu5: np11:05
SAngeliit would be really cool if for dial-up, in the 2010 ;-)11:05
Zeu5RoyK: :) :) :)11:05
* Zeu5 is happy11:06
RoyKSAngeli: actually, we're using modems for dialup at work :)11:06
RoyKand we still have some DOS apps11:06
SAngeliwow11:06
RoyKand a couple of VMS boxes11:07
RoyKand even a few Solaris 8 machines11:07
RoyKand an old HP/UX box that refuses to die11:07
SAngelicooooool11:07
SAngeliI like the refuses to die11:07
SAngelivery nice11:07
* RoyK works for nilu.no - we have quite a lot of old stuff around11:08
RoyKI recently found a Sun Ultra 5 on the network11:08
RoyKno idea where it is, though, but someone is clearly using it for something11:08
SAngeliwhere is on the internet the official ubuntu server ports so that I can see all available packages?11:09
RoyKapt-cache search ""11:09
RoyKthat should give you a good listing11:09
SAngelion the web? Something similar to this one: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi  ? Does ubuntu have one?11:10
RoyKit'll take some time reading through it, though11:10
RoyKhttp://tinyurl.com/2bvm53r11:11
SAngelinice. thank you11:11
SAngeliI like this link, RoyK11:11
SAngeliIs it better to install Hylafax by just doing apt-get install hylafax being release (6.0.3-5.1ubuntu1) or follow these instructions: http://www.hylafax.org/content/Handbook:Binary_Package_Install#Debian_Linux_.28also_applies_to_Ubuntu.29  (being also release 6.0.5)?11:18
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SAngeliWill apt-get take care all all that is needed?11:18
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SAngelior better question: how to be able to install The current release is version 6.0.5.0 of hylafax considering that Ubuntu has only available (if I did not make any mistake reading) rel 6.0.5? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=hylafax&searchon=names&suite=lucid&section=all11:21
Error404NotFoundmy server is getting stuck at http://pastebin.com/wKCEaaRE on every boot12:17
Error404NotFoundservices like apache, mysql seem to be working though12:18
Error404NotFoundno ssh12:19
Error404NotFoundfirewall seems to be running fine as well12:19
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uvirtbotNew bug: #668692 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.7.0-1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66869212:26
Cute_boyhello12:31
zealiodHow can  use ebtables log mac addresses with a certain vlan tag?12:32
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nerdy_kide the 39 68 numbers in this message? "227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,1,2,39,68)"  I think they are ports but they do not correspond to tcpdump data12:42
nerdy_kidhello, I am trying to get my ftp server to work through a router and need to know, what are the 39 68 numbers in this message? "227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,1,2,39,68)"  I think they are ports but they do not correspond to tcpdump data12:42
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SAngeliHi, I am unable to find faxgetty  to install on ubuntu server. can anyone please help? I also am unable to find and install egetty-link as needed from hylafax12:55
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SAngelihttp://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/man8/faxgetty.8.html  here is a ubuntu page but12:56
SAngeliIt seems that the file is present: ubuntu:~$ ls -la /usr/sbin/faxgetty12:59
SAngeli-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 474448 2010-09-06 00:03 /usr/sbin/faxgetty12:59
SAngelihow do I install a symbolic link for /etc/hylafax/getty-link that points to my program being hylafax?13:00
SAngeliIs it like this one: /usr/sbin/faxgetty /dev/ttyS113:00
brontoeeewhat OS should one use to run multiple lamp virtual appliances?13:43
brontoeeehost OS i mean13:44
c0nv1ctbrontoeee, linux13:44
brontoeeec0nv1ct, which one?13:44
c0nv1ctbrontoeee, any...13:45
c0nv1ctbrontoeee, look into openvz or LXC, they work in any linux13:45
brontoeeec0nv1ct, ok, thanks13:45
c0nv1ctyou'll have low overhead that way, or you could do full virtualization with something like kvm13:46
c0nv1ct(more overhead)13:46
brontoeeeopenvz seems to be fedora related?13:51
joschibrontoeee: not really. it's just that parallels provides prebuilt kernels for rhel/centos13:52
brontoeeeis there something thats preinstalled into ubuntu-server to be used for such virtualization?13:53
joschibrontoeee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVZ13:54
brontoeeealso related q: can i make such an apliance, dev it locally, then just copy/paste it on production server, or what is the workflow?13:55
joschibrontoeee: you basically just have to copy the container file which contains the VE's filesystem13:56
brontoeeehow is cpu/IO management done on the production server, say i would like to have certain machines to have more cpu avaliable?13:58
makomihi, i´ve got questions about kvm and I want to join #ubuntu-virt but I don´t have a invitation. so anybody know how to join chan?14:13
yann2doesnt exist anymore14:15
yann2has been moved to.. here :)14:16
makomiyann2: thanks14:16
makomiAnd now my question :) - i´ve installed 10.10 and want to use vmbuilder du build a maverick vm, but "vmbuilder kvm ubuntu --suite maverick" won´t work because vmbuilder don´t know maverick14:18
Jeeves_hehe :)14:19
makomi ERROR   : Invalid suite: "maverick". Valid suites are: dapper gutsy hardy intrepid jaunty karmic lucid14:22
resnosomeone here told me about a ppa to get openvnz install on 10.0415:01
resnoah, its lxc now, i remember15:03
c0nv1ctresno, ya, i just made the switch from openvz to lxc, still trying to figure out lxc15:04
resnoc0nv1ct: ive never worked with it, do you download containers or what?15:05
c0nv1ctresno, apparently you can migrate existing openvz templates15:05
resnohave you tried it?15:06
c0nv1cti haven't gotten that far yet, i just completely redid my server yesterday :)15:06
resnoah, of course :-\15:06
c0nv1ctonce i finish prelude/snort i'll finish setting up lxc, i got as far as creating the bridge15:06
resnoyou got a public server or a prive home network thing?15:07
c0nv1ctthis one is private15:07
resnoi think ill just uninstal lxc for the time being15:08
resnoseems more complicated then i want to jump into now15:09
c0nv1ctyeah, it doesnt seem as mature as openvz, not yet at least15:09
c0nv1ctopenvz was up and running in a matter of minutes when i first used it in gentoo15:09
resnoopenvz isnt supported?15:09
c0nv1cti believe it is, but is being phased out15:10
c0nv1ctafaik, lxc hasn't replaced it entirely as of yet15:10
zealiodwhen a static ip on a laptop moves on the network from on switch port to another I loose sight of it from the server, even though they still have connectivity - if i clear the arp table on the server everything is fine... how can i prevent this15:10
zealiodArp and bridging dont seem to ne working... i have 3 interfaces on br0, eth1, eth2, eth3 - ARP is not reliable, one i move a device that is attached to eth1 to eth3, then I can not ping the device again, unless I clear my arp cache, can this be avoided?15:25
RoyKzealiod: that's basically how arp caching work15:29
RoyKzealiod: also, different NICs shouldn't be on the same IP net unless you use link aggregation15:29
c0nv1ctzealiod, why do you have 3 interfaces isolated yet on the same network?15:30
zealiodRoyK: What about a roaming NIC, such as one on a laptop that has a fixed IP - how does ARP work then?15:31
zealiodRoyK: Can ARP caching be turned off for certain IPs15:31
RoyKdoubt it15:31
RoyKwhat do you mean "roaming nic"?15:31
zealiodRoyK: a NIC ton a latop for example15:32
zealiod*laptop15:32
zealiodc0nv1ct: I'm bridging VLANs15:35
RoyKzealiod: arp caching work - I just don't get what you're trying to do15:35
zealiodRoyK: OK, so, I plug my laptop into eth1 and ping myself 192.168.101 from the server, all good...15:36
zealiodRoyK: I then plug myself into eth2 and I can no longer ping myself from the server15:37
RoyKzealiod: please explain the configuration of the server15:37
zealiodRoyK: I flush the arp table on the server, and I can then ping 192.168.1.101 - I move back to eth1... and I can no longer ping the IP...15:37
zealiodI have 3 interfaces that are bridged to 1 interface br015:38
RoyKwhy do you use two NICs on the same IP network?15:38
zealiodRoyK: I'm bruding them15:38
zealiod*bridging them15:38
c0nv1ctyou dont bridge within the same ip network...15:38
c0nv1cta bridge connects different ip networks15:38
zealiodeth1 0.0.0.0, eth2 0.0.0.0 and then I add those nics to br0 on 192.168.1.115:39
zealiodworks a charm15:39
c0nv1ctnm, you are right, i'm tarded this morning... that should work15:40
RoyKzealiod: a bridge is something between two physical network15:44
RoyKzealiod: what you're doing isn't really a good idea15:44
c0nv1ctRoyK, isnt that what he has? one physical network behind eth1 and another behind eth215:45
RoyKc0nv1ct: didn't seem like that to me, but then, I have no idea what he's trying to do - he hasn't detailed the setup15:47
c0nv1ctRoyK, it seems like he is trying to setup the linux box basically as a layer 2 switch15:48
c0nv1ctit would help to know more info though15:48
RoyKzealiod_: please detail your setup15:49
RoyKit's no use for us to start guessing15:49
uvirtbotNew bug: #668775 in samba (main) "read only = no for Profiles in default smb.conf" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66877516:42
uvirtbotNew bug: #668818 in keepalived (main) "Please merge keepalived 1:1.1.20-1 (main) from debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66881818:46
Error404NotFoundhow can i force a run of crons inside my crontab? these are not in cron.*/ dirs...18:48
SpamapSError404NotFound: what do you mean force a run?19:00
Error404NotFoundSpamapS, manual run of each cron entry inside crontab19:01
SpamapSError404NotFound: well, you could just run them19:01
* SpamapS waits patiently as his Hardy download crushes the wifi at the airport19:02
ksx4systemSpammapS: already did it? ;>19:41
uvirtbotNew bug: #668842 in etckeeper (main) "Please merge etckeeper 0.50(main) from debian unstable(main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66884219:46
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kobriengreetings. I have a J2EE application. I wish to deploy in on a private ubuntu cloud. I have 2 questions. 1: Do I have to rewrite my code. 2: Will my app distribute across multiple nodes automatically?21:36
SpamapS1. no, a private cloud is just a way to spawn virtual machines. 2. see 1.21:39
kobrienwill using Amazons cloud give me this functionality then?21:41
userhi21:41
CarlFKhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=846480  HOWTO Control Fan Speed July 2nd, 200821:43
CarlFKE: Unable to locate package powersaved21:43
CarlFKanyone know of a more recent doc?21:44
uvirtbotNew bug: #668872 in bacula (main) "package bacula-director-mysql 5.0.1-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66887221:52
CarlFKfancontrol i guess.. trying it22:00
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makomiwhy i cant create in 10.10 with vmbuilder a maverick vm? I get error "Invalid suite: "maverick". Valid suites are: dapper gutsy hardy intrepid jaunty karmic lucid"23:37

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