[00:58] <CarlFK> topic have 10.04 changed to https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/
[01:11] <CarlFK> is there a package I can apt-get that will set the "different Kernel options" somewhat described on https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/preparing-to-install.html#intro-server-differences
[01:21] <pmatulis> CarlFK: you need to recompile the kernel in order to have different options
[01:22] <pmatulis> CarlFK: why do you want to change the kernel?
[01:24] <CarlFK> pmatulis: mainly experimenting - it's just a p4 box in my basement that I will use for a proxy, so doesn't really matter
[01:24] <CarlFK> I am guessing there is a package that contains the -server kernel? (I know the installer doesn't compile it on the fly.. that would be generally too much trouble :)
[01:25] <pmatulis> CarlFK: there are some wiki pages that describe how to compile the kernel.  i suggest you stick to ubuntu-specific instructions
[01:28] <CarlFK> you mean like this one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CarlKarsten  "My kernel howto" :)
[01:29] <CarlFK> like I said... I don't want to compile - I want to use whatever the installer installs.  just having trouble figuring out what it installs
[01:30] <CarlFK> here we go:linux-server - Complete Linux kernel on Server Equipment.
[01:45] <pmatulis> CarlFK: try to find some official ubuntu documentation
[01:46] <Ejdesgaard> Hi, i'm running 10.10 desktop and have installed qemu, kvm and virt-manager. I have setup a bridge and want to use it on a guest, but i can't see the bridge when i start virt-manager as a normal user (with libvirtd group)... how can i fix this?
[01:47] <Ejdesgaard> i have tried to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking but i can't get it working
[01:59] <nerdy_kid> hello, I am trying to fix my ftp server and need to know, what are the 39 68 numbers in this message? "227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,1,2,39,68)"  I think that they are port numbers but they do not relate to tcpdump output.
[02:00] <nerdy_kid> I am trying to get passive ftp to work (i have a router).
[02:03] <pmatulis> Ejdesgaard: you need to connect to libvirtd in system mode
[02:06] <Ejdesgaard> pmatulis, how?
[02:10] <pmatulis> Ejdesgaard: you add a local connection to virt-manager
[02:10] <pmatulis> Ejdesgaard: you want to see 'localhost (QEMU)' in the menu
[02:12] <Ejdesgaard> pmatulis, i have "localhost (QEMU Usermode)"
[02:12] <pmatulis> Ejdesgaard: exactly, you don't want that
[02:12] <pmatulis> Ejdesgaard: you want system mode
[02:13] <Ejdesgaard> i want to be able to choose br0 NAT for the NIC on a client. and i would like to be able to do it without "sudo virt-manager"
[02:14] <pmatulis> Ejdesgaard: i'm trying to tell you how
[02:19] <Ejdesgaard> pmatulis, virt-manager -c qemu://system was the answer :)
[02:19] <Ejdesgaard> thanks for the help
[02:19] <pmatulis> Ejdesgaard: keep on truckin'
[02:20] <pmatulis> Ejdesgaard: but you should be able to add a connection to get that
[02:20] <pmatulis> Ejdesgaard: i just tried it
[02:21] <Ejdesgaard> hmm... yes
[02:52] <jdimatteo> pmatulis: thanks (please excuse my delayed response)
[03:34] <fishscene> Greetings. I realize this might be a VSFTP problem, but I'm not sure...  I'm trying to get a vsftp server running on an Ubuntu installation. I need to change the port from the default of 21. I'm able to successfully change the port, but the "list" command doesn't execute properly. I suspect because the server is trying to send information to the client over port 20. I tried changing that too, but to no avail. Does anyone know how to chan
[03:38] <fishscene> nvm. topic moved to #ubuntu
[04:15] <domas> hi!
[04:15] <domas> does anyone know why XFS/LVM/mdadm snapshots are corrupt in 10.04? :)
[06:07] <drcode> hi all
[06:07] <drcode> is there software that mount disk automticly in console?
[06:45] <BlackJamMan> are there any console email checkers other than mail, and pine ?
[06:57] <CarlFK> BlackJamMan: tons.  elm and mutt come to mind
[07:01] <BlackJamMan> CarlFK: eh I'll just have to wait on the system admin I think.  I can read it with more /var/spool/mail/myuser though
[07:35] <Error404NotFound> Quick Poll: what is better, LTS or non LTS for a server? [In the dilemma of Upgrade/Do not Upgrade/Upgrade/Do not upgrade]
[07:39] <joschi> Error404NotFound: LTS
[07:40] <joschi> Error404NotFound: well, at least if it's a productive system. if you just want to play, go with whatever you like
[07:40] <Error404NotFound> joschi, and the last plucked petal also says LTS/Do not Upgrade :)
[07:41] <joschi> Error404NotFound: that's one smart flower ;)
[07:41] <Error404NotFound> joschi, ofcourse, it belongs to me afterall :) ^_^
[09:08] <jaakkop> 'ello
[09:43] <RoyK>  
[10:09] <jaakkop> Hmm, does anyone use ufw for gateway + firewall?
[10:41] <RoyK> jaakkop: for fw, yes
[10:44] <jaakkop> I was just wondering what would be the most suitable solution for a home router.
[10:45] <RoyK> jaakkop: dedicated router?
[10:45] <RoyK> or server/router/something?
[10:46] <jaakkop> A small server used as my home network's router among other things.
[10:47] <RoyK> ok, ufw can be used with that quite easily
[10:47] <jaakkop> Yeah
[10:48] <Zeu5> hi there, i have the following dir /var/www/folder which has the permissions username:username drwxrwxr-x i want my apache to be able to access this folder and write new files. currently it cannot. please advise.
[10:48] <RoyK> that is - last I checked ufw doesn't have any built-in stuff for NAT, so you need to do that manually with iptables (which is the underlying infrastructure under ufw)
[10:49] <RoyK> Zeu5: with 775 permissions, as you have, only user and group can write there
[10:49] <jaakkop> I know. I'm just wondering it's the best solution for a gw+fw. :-)
[10:49] <RoyK> I'd say pfSense :)
[10:49] <Zeu5> RoyK:thank you for your response.  so i have no choice but to make it 777?
[10:50] <RoyK> Zeu5: or make sure www-data is in the same group...
[10:50] <Error404NotFound> I rebooted my server after upgrade, everything wine fine, it loads fine, except that i don't see a prompt on console...
[10:50] <RoyK> Zeu5: or use posix ACLs
[10:50] <jaakkop> I think I'll just use ufw for now then...
[10:50] <Zeu5> RoyK: i am unfamiliar with either option. i am new to ubuntu. which option would you advise to someone like me?
[10:51] <RoyK> Zeu5: ls -ld dirname - that shows you which user/group owns the file - vi /etc/group and add www-data to that group
[10:52]  * RoyK hands Zeu5 a 'learning unix systems' bible
[10:52] <Zeu5> RoyK: thank you :)
[10:53] <Zeu5> RoyK: which book would that be? not all such books are created equally. would love to hear what book an expert like yourself would recommend to me
[10:56] <RoyK> sorry - I really don't know
[10:57]  * RoyK has never had a book about linux, but then, he installed his first linux box back in 1994 and is still learning
[10:58] <Zeu5> RoyK: that is cool. I am learning too. thanks for your coaching :) :)
[11:01] <SAngeli> what tool to use to inquiry a seral port modem to see all specs and which seral port is connected?
[11:04] <RoyK> SAngeli: minicom?
[11:04] <SAngeli> thank you. I was able to get wvdialconf to work as of now
[11:05] <RoyK> SAngeli: are you using a modem for dialup?
[11:05] <Zeu5> RoyK: it worked!!!!!!!!
[11:05]  * RoyK is slightly impressed someone still uses that technology
[11:05] <SAngeli> RoyK, :-) Am using a modem for fax services
[11:05] <SAngeli> am trying to install Hylafax
[11:05] <Zeu5> RoyK: thank you thank you :) :)
[11:05] <RoyK> SAngeli: ah
[11:05] <RoyK> Zeu5: np
[11:05] <SAngeli> it would be really cool if for dial-up, in the 2010 ;-)
[11:05] <Zeu5> RoyK: :) :) :)
[11:06]  * Zeu5 is happy
[11:06] <RoyK> SAngeli: actually, we're using modems for dialup at work :)
[11:06] <RoyK> and we still have some DOS apps
[11:06] <SAngeli> wow
[11:07] <RoyK> and a couple of VMS boxes
[11:07] <RoyK> and even a few Solaris 8 machines
[11:07] <RoyK> and an old HP/UX box that refuses to die
[11:07] <SAngeli> cooooool
[11:07] <SAngeli> I like the refuses to die
[11:07] <SAngeli> very nice
[11:08]  * RoyK works for nilu.no - we have quite a lot of old stuff around
[11:08] <RoyK> I recently found a Sun Ultra 5 on the network
[11:08] <RoyK> no idea where it is, though, but someone is clearly using it for something
[11:09] <SAngeli> where is on the internet the official ubuntu server ports so that I can see all available packages?
[11:09] <RoyK> apt-cache search ""
[11:09] <RoyK> that should give you a good listing
[11:10] <SAngeli> on the web? Something similar to this one: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi  ? Does ubuntu have one?
[11:10] <RoyK> it'll take some time reading through it, though
[11:11] <RoyK> http://tinyurl.com/2bvm53r
[11:11] <SAngeli> nice. thank you
[11:11] <SAngeli> I like this link, RoyK
[11:18] <SAngeli> Is it better to install Hylafax by just doing apt-get install hylafax being release (6.0.3-5.1ubuntu1) or follow these instructions: http://www.hylafax.org/content/Handbook:Binary_Package_Install#Debian_Linux_.28also_applies_to_Ubuntu.29  (being also release 6.0.5)?
[11:18] <SAngeli> Will apt-get take care all all that is needed?
[11:21] <SAngeli> or better question: how to be able to install The current release is version 6.0.5.0 of hylafax considering that Ubuntu has only available (if I did not make any mistake reading) rel 6.0.5? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=hylafax&searchon=names&suite=lucid&section=all
[12:17] <Error404NotFound> my server is getting stuck at http://pastebin.com/wKCEaaRE on every boot
[12:18] <Error404NotFound> services like apache, mysql seem to be working though
[12:19] <Error404NotFound> no ssh
[12:19] <Error404NotFound> firewall seems to be running fine as well
[12:31] <Cute_boy> hello
[12:32] <zealiod> How can  use ebtables log mac addresses with a certain vlan tag?
[12:42] <nerdy_kid> e the 39 68 numbers in this message? "227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,1,2,39,68)"  I think they are ports but they do not correspond to tcpdump data
[12:42] <nerdy_kid> hello, I am trying to get my ftp server to work through a router and need to know, what are the 39 68 numbers in this message? "227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,1,2,39,68)"  I think they are ports but they do not correspond to tcpdump data
[12:55] <SAngeli> Hi, I am unable to find faxgetty  to install on ubuntu server. can anyone please help? I also am unable to find and install egetty-link as needed from hylafax
[12:56] <SAngeli> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/man8/faxgetty.8.html  here is a ubuntu page but
[12:59] <SAngeli> It seems that the file is present: ubuntu:~$ ls -la /usr/sbin/faxgetty
[12:59] <SAngeli> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 474448 2010-09-06 00:03 /usr/sbin/faxgetty
[13:00] <SAngeli> how do I install a symbolic link for /etc/hylafax/getty-link that points to my program being hylafax?
[13:00] <SAngeli> Is it like this one: /usr/sbin/faxgetty /dev/ttyS1
[13:43] <brontoeee> what OS should one use to run multiple lamp virtual appliances?
[13:44] <brontoeee> host OS i mean
[13:44] <c0nv1ct> brontoeee, linux
[13:44] <brontoeee> c0nv1ct, which one?
[13:45] <c0nv1ct> brontoeee, any...
[13:45] <c0nv1ct> brontoeee, look into openvz or LXC, they work in any linux
[13:45] <brontoeee> c0nv1ct, ok, thanks
[13:46] <c0nv1ct> you'll have low overhead that way, or you could do full virtualization with something like kvm
[13:46] <c0nv1ct> (more overhead)
[13:51] <brontoeee> openvz seems to be fedora related?
[13:52] <joschi> brontoeee: not really. it's just that parallels provides prebuilt kernels for rhel/centos
[13:53] <brontoeee> is there something thats preinstalled into ubuntu-server to be used for such virtualization?
[13:54] <joschi> brontoeee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVZ
[13:55] <brontoeee> also related q: can i make such an apliance, dev it locally, then just copy/paste it on production server, or what is the workflow?
[13:56] <joschi> brontoeee: you basically just have to copy the container file which contains the VE's filesystem
[13:58] <brontoeee> how is cpu/IO management done on the production server, say i would like to have certain machines to have more cpu avaliable?
[14:13] <makomi> hi, i´ve got questions about kvm and I want to join #ubuntu-virt but I don´t have a invitation. so anybody know how to join chan?
[14:15] <yann2> doesnt exist anymore
[14:16] <yann2> has been moved to.. here :)
[14:16] <makomi> yann2: thanks
[14:18] <makomi> And now my question :) - i´ve installed 10.10 and want to use vmbuilder du build a maverick vm, but "vmbuilder kvm ubuntu --suite maverick" won´t work because vmbuilder don´t know maverick
[14:19] <Jeeves_> hehe :)
[14:22] <makomi>  ERROR   : Invalid suite: "maverick". Valid suites are: dapper gutsy hardy intrepid jaunty karmic lucid
[15:01] <resno> someone here told me about a ppa to get openvnz install on 10.04
[15:03] <resno> ah, its lxc now, i remember
[15:04] <c0nv1ct> resno, ya, i just made the switch from openvz to lxc, still trying to figure out lxc
[15:05] <resno> c0nv1ct: ive never worked with it, do you download containers or what?
[15:05] <c0nv1ct> resno, apparently you can migrate existing openvz templates
[15:06] <resno> have you tried it?
[15:06] <c0nv1ct> i haven't gotten that far yet, i just completely redid my server yesterday :)
[15:06] <resno> ah, of course :-\
[15:06] <c0nv1ct> once i finish prelude/snort i'll finish setting up lxc, i got as far as creating the bridge
[15:07] <resno> you got a public server or a prive home network thing?
[15:07] <c0nv1ct> this one is private
[15:08] <resno> i think ill just uninstal lxc for the time being
[15:09] <resno> seems more complicated then i want to jump into now
[15:09] <c0nv1ct> yeah, it doesnt seem as mature as openvz, not yet at least
[15:09] <c0nv1ct> openvz was up and running in a matter of minutes when i first used it in gentoo
[15:09] <resno> openvz isnt supported?
[15:10] <c0nv1ct> i believe it is, but is being phased out
[15:10] <c0nv1ct> afaik, lxc hasn't replaced it entirely as of yet
[15:10] <zealiod> when a static ip on a laptop moves on the network from on switch port to another I loose sight of it from the server, even though they still have connectivity - if i clear the arp table on the server everything is fine... how can i prevent this
[15:25] <zealiod> Arp and bridging dont seem to ne working... i have 3 interfaces on br0, eth1, eth2, eth3 - ARP is not reliable, one i move a device that is attached to eth1 to eth3, then I can not ping the device again, unless I clear my arp cache, can this be avoided?
[15:29] <RoyK> zealiod: that's basically how arp caching work
[15:29] <RoyK> zealiod: also, different NICs shouldn't be on the same IP net unless you use link aggregation
[15:30] <c0nv1ct> zealiod, why do you have 3 interfaces isolated yet on the same network?
[15:31] <zealiod> RoyK: What about a roaming NIC, such as one on a laptop that has a fixed IP - how does ARP work then?
[15:31] <zealiod> RoyK: Can ARP caching be turned off for certain IPs
[15:31] <RoyK> doubt it
[15:31] <RoyK> what do you mean "roaming nic"?
[15:32] <zealiod> RoyK: a NIC ton a latop for example
[15:32] <zealiod> *laptop
[15:35] <zealiod> c0nv1ct: I'm bridging VLANs
[15:35] <RoyK> zealiod: arp caching work - I just don't get what you're trying to do
[15:36] <zealiod> RoyK: OK, so, I plug my laptop into eth1 and ping myself 192.168.101 from the server, all good...
[15:37] <zealiod> RoyK: I then plug myself into eth2 and I can no longer ping myself from the server
[15:37] <RoyK> zealiod: please explain the configuration of the server
[15:37] <zealiod> RoyK: I flush the arp table on the server, and I can then ping 192.168.1.101 - I move back to eth1... and I can no longer ping the IP...
[15:38] <zealiod> I have 3 interfaces that are bridged to 1 interface br0
[15:38] <RoyK> why do you use two NICs on the same IP network?
[15:38] <zealiod> RoyK: I'm bruding them
[15:38] <zealiod> *bridging them
[15:38] <c0nv1ct> you dont bridge within the same ip network...
[15:38] <c0nv1ct> a bridge connects different ip networks
[15:39] <zealiod> eth1 0.0.0.0, eth2 0.0.0.0 and then I add those nics to br0 on 192.168.1.1
[15:39] <zealiod> works a charm
[15:40] <c0nv1ct> nm, you are right, i'm tarded this morning... that should work
[15:44] <RoyK> zealiod: a bridge is something between two physical network
[15:44] <RoyK> zealiod: what you're doing isn't really a good idea
[15:45] <c0nv1ct> RoyK, isnt that what he has? one physical network behind eth1 and another behind eth2
[15:47] <RoyK> c0nv1ct: didn't seem like that to me, but then, I have no idea what he's trying to do - he hasn't detailed the setup
[15:48] <c0nv1ct> RoyK, it seems like he is trying to setup the linux box basically as a layer 2 switch
[15:48] <c0nv1ct> it would help to know more info though
[15:49] <RoyK> zealiod_: please detail your setup
[15:49] <RoyK> it's no use for us to start guessing
[18:48] <Error404NotFound> how can i force a run of crons inside my crontab? these are not in cron.*/ dirs...
[19:00] <SpamapS> Error404NotFound: what do you mean force a run?
[19:01] <Error404NotFound> SpamapS, manual run of each cron entry inside crontab
[19:01] <SpamapS> Error404NotFound: well, you could just run them
[19:02]  * SpamapS waits patiently as his Hardy download crushes the wifi at the airport
[19:41] <ksx4system> SpammapS: already did it? ;>
[21:36] <kobrien> greetings. I have a J2EE application. I wish to deploy in on a private ubuntu cloud. I have 2 questions. 1: Do I have to rewrite my code. 2: Will my app distribute across multiple nodes automatically?
[21:39] <SpamapS> 1. no, a private cloud is just a way to spawn virtual machines. 2. see 1.
[21:41] <kobrien> will using Amazons cloud give me this functionality then?
[21:41] <user> hi
[21:43] <CarlFK> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=846480  HOWTO Control Fan Speed July 2nd, 2008
[21:43] <CarlFK> E: Unable to locate package powersaved
[21:44] <CarlFK> anyone know of a more recent doc?
[22:00] <CarlFK> fancontrol i guess.. trying it
[23:37] <makomi> why i cant create in 10.10 with vmbuilder a maverick vm? I get error "Invalid suite: "maverick". Valid suites are: dapper gutsy hardy intrepid jaunty karmic lucid"