| scott-upstairs | holstein, actually audacity will be there if anyone installs video | 01:41 |
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| scott-upstairs | i know that seems counterintuitive, but... | 01:41 |
| scott-upstairs | if someone is making a movie and needs to edit sound, say for a menu, or for a soundtrack | 01:42 |
| scott-upstairs | or even to edit a sound effect | 01:42 |
| holstein | ScottL: yeah | 03:57 |
| holstein | i like that actually | 03:57 |
| holstein | audacity in the video meta-package | 03:57 |
| ScottL | holstein, it seemed more appropriate, but if there is enough desire from users, say enough to make a workflow ;), then it certainly can be put back into one of the audio seeds | 04:03 |
| holstein | ScottL: i dont think it has a place in a pro audio workflow personally | 04:04 |
| holstein | but, i know lots of new folk use it | 04:04 |
| holstein | and podcasters | 04:04 |
| holstein | for simple editing | 04:04 |
| holstein | just pulling in a stereo track and cutting it up | 04:04 |
| holstein | works great | 04:04 |
| holstein | and easy | 04:04 |
| holstein | no JACK required | 04:04 |
| ScottL | i wanted to create a podcasting workflow and gave it quite a bit of thought, but didn't come up with a complete one, at least with applications direct from the archives | 04:05 |
| ScottL | i've been thinking about this too, however | 04:06 |
| holstein | ScottL: ardour would be ideal | 04:07 |
| holstein | its really just the JACK set-up | 04:07 |
| ScottL | i was thinking about trying to get Ubuntu Studio merchandise created (this is not a new idea) | 04:07 |
| holstein | ScottL: totally | 04:07 |
| holstein | great idea | 04:07 |
| ScottL | and using the proceeds to perhaps fund getting a developer to make mumble jack aware | 04:08 |
| ScottL | incidentally this could fund other directions that ubuntu studio would like to go | 04:08 |
| holstein | ScottL: i like that | 04:08 |
| holstein | put it toward whatever development is needed at the time | 04:08 |
| * holstein gotta run | 04:09 | |
| holstein | BBL | 04:09 |
| ScottL | but, this is not a unilateral decision for me to make, i expect to need to clear the use of "ubuntu" and perhaps "studio" as well | 04:10 |
| ScottL | and at least two people should be accountable (no pun intended) for the proceeds to avoid the appearance or occurrence of impropriety | 04:14 |
| stochastic | ScottL, why is Lilypond and Denemo being ditched in Natty? | 06:34 |
| * stochastic reads the full e-mail and highly disagrees with some of the package removals | 06:36 | |
| stochastic | If I do recall correctly, all of the packages currently included in the metas are there because they serve a distinct workflow purpose that no other package/app serves. | 06:40 |
| stochastic | Why are all the DJ apps being removed? Why is CSound being removed? JDelay!?! | 06:42 |
| stochastic | Rather than removing everything that someone doesn't list on the workflow page, why not take out the items that people can prove are redundant in the meta? | 06:45 |
| ScottL | stochastic, the decisions were worked over with persia, among them replacing denemo and lilypond with mscore | 06:59 |
| * ScottL realizes that persia is not the be all, end all however | 06:59 | |
| ScottL | stochastic, can you provide some workflows that will utilize the applications you mentioned? | 07:00 |
| ScottL | replacing applications back into the seeds is not objectionable, far from it | 07:02 |
| ScottL | i hope to see community involvement to keep the applications, actually | 07:03 |
| ScottL | stochastic, i'm presuming you are away at the moment, however, when you get back i would like to discuss possibly creating a audio-dj task/seed | 07:05 |
| stochastic | ScottL, I'll copy the current wiki onto my netbook (as I do have time to work while on my commute) and edit up some tasks | 07:24 |
| stochastic | an audio-dj seed seems redundant to me at first (i.e. would contain many of the same low level basics that the audio meta would) | 07:25 |
| ScottL | stochastic, i have been updating the seeds but they haven't been pushed yet or the -meta updated | 13:52 |
| ScottL | i had been waiting for input from users | 13:52 |
| ScottL | also, the audio seed has been split into three seeds: audio-common, recording, and generation | 13:53 |
| ScottL | the idea is to try to give a user a smaller subset of the audio applications as they desire | 13:53 |
| ScottL | the premise is that someone who does not play an instrument would not want several additional applications like guitarix, et al | 13:54 |
| ScottL | hopefully this will also help with the length of the menu | 13:54 |
| ScottL | 14:02 | |
| ScottL | stochastic, i would expect many of the "low level basics" that you mentioned would be included already in the audio-common seed | 14:03 |
| ScottL | which an audio-dj would then depend on as well in the same manner as the generation and recording seeds | 14:04 |
| TheMuso | Hey folks. Just checking in briefly before boarding my flight to Boston. | 14:53 |
| paultag | TheMuso, Hell yeah! Where abouts? | 15:53 |
| paultag | TheMuso, That there is my homeland | 15:53 |
| TheMuso | paultag: Flew from Orlando to Boston. | 21:12 |
| paultag | TheMuso, I grew up in Boston | 21:18 |
| TheMuso | Cool. | 21:18 |
| paultag | TheMuso, good flight I hope :) | 21:18 |
| TheMuso | Yeah wasn't too bad, a few screaming children though. | 21:20 |
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