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lifelesszomg we're in testfix -again- ?01:24
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wgrantlifeless: Should there be an announcement about the beta redirect removal?02:44
wgrantA few people have asked if it was broken.02:44
lifelesswgrant: you mean like the blog post announcing it ?02:46
lifelesswgrant: we can certainly do another announcement02:46
lifelesshttp://blog.launchpad.net/general/continuous-deployment-in-launchpad02:48
lifelesswgrant: good luck02:48
lifelesssomeone needs to clear out a stale librarian in the db-devel test chroot03:41
lifeless-> NZ03:41
LPCIBotProject devel build (172): STILL FAILING in 3 hr 54 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/devel/172/06:49
thumpermorning20:36
wallyworldmorning thumper. how about those magnificent wallabies?21:07
thumperwallyworld: yeah, they're freaking awesome...21:08
wallyworldglad you think so too21:08
wallyworldi can already hear the all blecks choking next year for the world cup21:09
thumperfcuk off21:09
wallyworld:-D21:09
thumperwallyworld: skype? so I can abuse you in private?21:10
wallyworldok21:10
thumperhttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+bugs?field.tag=qa-needstesting21:27
lifelessoh hai22:20
thumperhi lifeless22:21
thumperlifeless: back home?22:21
lifelessyeah22:21
lifelesswalked in 10 minutes ago22:21
thumperlifeless: buildbot isn't happy22:21
lifelessneeds losa intervention I think, if its what was up yesterday22:21
jmlhello again22:22
thumperhi jml22:22
thumperlifeless: there are spurious windmill failures on devel22:22
jmlthumper: hi22:22
thumperI'm spinning up a test for devel to see if they are fine here22:22
thumperI'm guessing it is a race condition and crappy timing22:23
* jml is in a Delta lounge, making lots of daily builds22:23
jml(all of which fail to build from source, but there's only so much one can do).22:24
wgrantAre many of the interesting ones importable?22:26
wgrantLots need submodules :(22:26
jmlwgrant: well, these are all for projects that use bzr in upstream22:27
thumperjml: and none build locally?22:28
jmlthumper: pff, a secondary consideration22:28
wgrantAh22:28
jmlthumper: more seriously, it has taken roughly an hour to get these recipes created properly22:29
thumperjml: what were the pain points?22:30
jmlthumper: slow internet, finding packaging source, lack of nest-part22:30
thumpernest-part is coming...22:30
thumperand had landed but was then reverted22:30
jmlthumper: yeah, I saw22:30
thumpernot sure how our changes caused the build farm to crap itself though22:30
jmlthumper: no idea either.22:31
wgrantDo you know what bzr version is running outside the chroot?22:31
jmlthumper: we have quite a lot of information on the symptoms of the failure. if you think that will help, hassle bigjools22:31
jml… when he gets back22:31
thumperwgrant: not exactly, 2.2 I think22:31
wgrant:(22:32
thumperjml: my solution is to offload the entire thing onto bigjools22:32
thumperjml: it isn't something I can help with IMO22:32
thumperperhaps getting aaron to work with him, but we don't have the access or knowledge in this area22:32
lifelesshttps://code.launchpad.net/~lifeless/launchpad/prejoin/+merge/3972022:33
lifelesshttps://code.launchpad.net/~lifeless/launchpad/mentoring/+merge/3972122:33
jmllifeless: yeah, I saw the first. I'll review it now.22:33
jmllifeless: is that an exact duplicate of DecoratedResultSet? the name implies that it does something prejoin-y22:34
lifelessjml: different syntax for use and less flexible.22:35
lifelessjml: no active users in the code base.22:36
jmllifeless: +122:36
lifelessjml: I've been tweaking databasefixture but nothing substantial; you could look to see if there is anything unclear in my tweaks22:38
jmllifeless: I won't have time before I board, sorry.22:38
lifelessjml: no rush22:38
lifelessjml: I'll toss it at ec2, and if we need to iterate, we can iterate.22:38
jmllifeless: you'll no doubt be shocked to know that my testtools-experiment branch failed a test run.22:42
jmlthumper: that's fair enough. although, it would be good if we could spread the knowledge about these things to outside the soyuz team.22:44
thumperjml: understood, but it is also access to dogfood22:44
jmlthumper: it would be good if we could spread access to effective dev environments beyond the soyuz team too :)22:44
thumperjml: yeah... talk to bigjools about dogfood :)22:46
jmlthumper: I have in the past.22:47
jmlanyway, my flight's boarding.22:48
jmlI guess I won't get time to make a testresources daily build22:48
lifelessthumper: we have to fix the things preventing qa on qastaging.22:48
lifelessthumper: some of those need code changes e.g. to log more.22:48
jmllifeless: https://launchpad.net/~testing-cabal – I've created a bunch of daily builds in a naive "I'm just an upstream developer" way22:49
lifelessjml: I'm shicked I tell you, shocked.22:49
jmllifeless: although I'd be happy if you fixed them, I would like to know exactly how, so I can learn.22:49
lifelessjml: the builds ?22:50
lifelessjml: I haven't looked specifically, but the use of nesting seems odd to me.22:50
jmllifeless: odder still to me, since I thought I was merging :)22:50
lifelessjml: well, you mentioned in tihs channel something about nest-part22:51
jmllifeless: it would be better if I could use it.22:51
lifelessthumper: what build has the spurious windmill failures22:51
jmllifeless: anyway, I have to go.22:51
thumperlifeless: devel22:51
jmlhave a good day, antipodeans22:51
lifelessjml: for testing sure, but for testing-cabal builds specifically I don't see why.22:51
lifelessjml: ciao, fly well22:51
thumperjml: have a good flight22:51
lifelessman, I really want to know my overall diffstat for lp.22:53
lifelesslike22:53
lifelessam I (since the TA job) a net code increase or decrease.22:53
lifelessand how much simple 'churn'.22:53
thumperlifeless: that info is there22:55
thumperlifeless: we record lines added and removed for the diffs22:56
lifelessper merge sure22:57
thumperlifeless: well... what I'm saying is that the information is there so we could aggregate somehow22:57
lifelesssure22:57
thumperlifeless: when the rollout happened the other day, did it go to arsenic?22:57
thumperlifeless: also, can we change the pageid for xmlrpc requests to include the method?22:58
thumperlifeless: that would give us much better idea of which method calls are failing22:58
lifelesswhats arsenic22:58
lifelessyes, there is a bug already22:59
lifelessthumper: I'm ratshit today as I'm sure you can imagine23:07
lifelessthumper: I'm not going to drill into the buildbot thing unless you or someone else hits a wall there : I have a backlog from UDS already and just pushing that forward will consume my all23:08
thumperack23:09

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