[01:24] <lifeless> zomg we're in testfix -again- ?
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[02:44] <wgrant> lifeless: Should there be an announcement about the beta redirect removal?
[02:44] <wgrant> A few people have asked if it was broken.
[02:46] <lifeless> wgrant: you mean like the blog post announcing it ?
[02:46] <lifeless> wgrant: we can certainly do another announcement
[02:48] <lifeless> http://blog.launchpad.net/general/continuous-deployment-in-launchpad
[02:48] <lifeless> wgrant: good luck
[03:41] <lifeless> someone needs to clear out a stale librarian in the db-devel test chroot
[03:41] <lifeless> -> NZ
[06:49] <LPCIBot> Project devel build (172): STILL FAILING in 3 hr 54 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/devel/172/
[20:36] <thumper> morning
[21:07] <wallyworld> morning thumper. how about those magnificent wallabies?
[21:08] <thumper> wallyworld: yeah, they're freaking awesome...
[21:08] <wallyworld> glad you think so too
[21:09] <wallyworld> i can already hear the all blecks choking next year for the world cup
[21:09] <thumper> fcuk off
[21:09] <wallyworld> :-D
[21:10] <thumper> wallyworld: skype? so I can abuse you in private?
[21:10] <wallyworld> ok
[21:27] <thumper> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+bugs?field.tag=qa-needstesting
[22:20] <lifeless> oh hai
[22:21] <thumper> hi lifeless
[22:21] <thumper> lifeless: back home?
[22:21] <lifeless> yeah
[22:21] <lifeless> walked in 10 minutes ago
[22:21] <thumper> lifeless: buildbot isn't happy
[22:21] <lifeless> needs losa intervention I think, if its what was up yesterday
[22:22] <jml> hello again
[22:22] <thumper> hi jml
[22:22] <thumper> lifeless: there are spurious windmill failures on devel
[22:22] <jml> thumper: hi
[22:22] <thumper> I'm spinning up a test for devel to see if they are fine here
[22:23] <thumper> I'm guessing it is a race condition and crappy timing
[22:23]  * jml is in a Delta lounge, making lots of daily builds
[22:24] <jml> (all of which fail to build from source, but there's only so much one can do).
[22:26] <wgrant> Are many of the interesting ones importable?
[22:26] <wgrant> Lots need submodules :(
[22:27] <jml> wgrant: well, these are all for projects that use bzr in upstream
[22:28] <thumper> jml: and none build locally?
[22:28] <jml> thumper: pff, a secondary consideration
[22:28] <wgrant> Ah
[22:29] <jml> thumper: more seriously, it has taken roughly an hour to get these recipes created properly
[22:30] <thumper> jml: what were the pain points?
[22:30] <jml> thumper: slow internet, finding packaging source, lack of nest-part
[22:30] <thumper> nest-part is coming...
[22:30] <thumper> and had landed but was then reverted
[22:30] <jml> thumper: yeah, I saw
[22:30] <thumper> not sure how our changes caused the build farm to crap itself though
[22:31] <jml> thumper: no idea either.
[22:31] <wgrant> Do you know what bzr version is running outside the chroot?
[22:31] <jml> thumper: we have quite a lot of information on the symptoms of the failure. if you think that will help, hassle bigjools
[22:31] <jml> … when he gets back
[22:31] <thumper> wgrant: not exactly, 2.2 I think
[22:32] <wgrant> :(
[22:32] <thumper> jml: my solution is to offload the entire thing onto bigjools
[22:32] <thumper> jml: it isn't something I can help with IMO
[22:32] <thumper> perhaps getting aaron to work with him, but we don't have the access or knowledge in this area
[22:33] <lifeless> https://code.launchpad.net/~lifeless/launchpad/prejoin/+merge/39720
[22:33] <lifeless> https://code.launchpad.net/~lifeless/launchpad/mentoring/+merge/39721
[22:33] <jml> lifeless: yeah, I saw the first. I'll review it now.
[22:34] <jml> lifeless: is that an exact duplicate of DecoratedResultSet? the name implies that it does something prejoin-y
[22:35] <lifeless> jml: different syntax for use and less flexible.
[22:36] <lifeless> jml: no active users in the code base.
[22:36] <jml> lifeless: +1
[22:38] <lifeless> jml: I've been tweaking databasefixture but nothing substantial; you could look to see if there is anything unclear in my tweaks
[22:38] <jml> lifeless: I won't have time before I board, sorry.
[22:38] <lifeless> jml: no rush
[22:38] <lifeless> jml: I'll toss it at ec2, and if we need to iterate, we can iterate.
[22:42] <jml> lifeless: you'll no doubt be shocked to know that my testtools-experiment branch failed a test run.
[22:44] <jml> thumper: that's fair enough. although, it would be good if we could spread the knowledge about these things to outside the soyuz team.
[22:44] <thumper> jml: understood, but it is also access to dogfood
[22:44] <jml> thumper: it would be good if we could spread access to effective dev environments beyond the soyuz team too :)
[22:46] <thumper> jml: yeah... talk to bigjools about dogfood :)
[22:47] <jml> thumper: I have in the past.
[22:48] <jml> anyway, my flight's boarding.
[22:48] <jml> I guess I won't get time to make a testresources daily build
[22:48] <lifeless> thumper: we have to fix the things preventing qa on qastaging.
[22:48] <lifeless> thumper: some of those need code changes e.g. to log more.
[22:49] <jml> lifeless: https://launchpad.net/~testing-cabal – I've created a bunch of daily builds in a naive "I'm just an upstream developer" way
[22:49] <lifeless> jml: I'm shicked I tell you, shocked.
[22:49] <jml> lifeless: although I'd be happy if you fixed them, I would like to know exactly how, so I can learn.
[22:50] <lifeless> jml: the builds ?
[22:50] <lifeless> jml: I haven't looked specifically, but the use of nesting seems odd to me.
[22:50] <jml> lifeless: odder still to me, since I thought I was merging :)
[22:51] <lifeless> jml: well, you mentioned in tihs channel something about nest-part
[22:51] <jml> lifeless: it would be better if I could use it.
[22:51] <lifeless> thumper: what build has the spurious windmill failures
[22:51] <jml> lifeless: anyway, I have to go.
[22:51] <thumper> lifeless: devel
[22:51] <jml> have a good day, antipodeans
[22:51] <lifeless> jml: for testing sure, but for testing-cabal builds specifically I don't see why.
[22:51] <lifeless> jml: ciao, fly well
[22:51] <thumper> jml: have a good flight
[22:53] <lifeless> man, I really want to know my overall diffstat for lp.
[22:53] <lifeless> like
[22:53] <lifeless> am I (since the TA job) a net code increase or decrease.
[22:53] <lifeless> and how much simple 'churn'.
[22:55] <thumper> lifeless: that info is there
[22:56] <thumper> lifeless: we record lines added and removed for the diffs
[22:57] <lifeless> per merge sure
[22:57] <thumper> lifeless: well... what I'm saying is that the information is there so we could aggregate somehow
[22:57] <lifeless> sure
[22:57] <thumper> lifeless: when the rollout happened the other day, did it go to arsenic?
[22:58] <thumper> lifeless: also, can we change the pageid for xmlrpc requests to include the method?
[22:58] <thumper> lifeless: that would give us much better idea of which method calls are failing
[22:58] <lifeless> whats arsenic
[22:59] <lifeless> yes, there is a bug already
[23:07] <lifeless> thumper: I'm ratshit today as I'm sure you can imagine
[23:08] <lifeless> thumper: I'm not going to drill into the buildbot thing unless you or someone else hits a wall there : I have a backlog from UDS already and just pushing that forward will consume my all
[23:09] <thumper> ack