[01:24] zomg we're in testfix -again- ? [02:09] Hard / Soft Page ID [02:09] 273 / 12 Archive:EntryResource:getBuildSummariesForSourceIds [02:09] 216 / 48 Person:+commentedbugs [02:09] 137 / 161 CodeImportSchedulerApplication:CodeImportSchedulerAPI [02:09] 101 / 214 BugTask:+index [02:09] 98 / 0 MailingListApplication:MailingListAPIView [02:09] 56 / 208 Distribution:+bugs [02:09] 15 / 31 Milestone:+index [02:09] 14 / 4 ProjectGroup:+milestones [02:09] 13 / 51 Archive:+packages [02:09] 9 / 34 Distribution:+addquestion [02:44] lifeless: Should there be an announcement about the beta redirect removal? [02:44] A few people have asked if it was broken. [02:46] wgrant: you mean like the blog post announcing it ? [02:46] wgrant: we can certainly do another announcement [02:48] http://blog.launchpad.net/general/continuous-deployment-in-launchpad [02:48] wgrant: good luck [03:41] someone needs to clear out a stale librarian in the db-devel test chroot [03:41] -> NZ [06:49] Project devel build (172): STILL FAILING in 3 hr 54 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/devel/172/ [20:36] morning [21:07] morning thumper. how about those magnificent wallabies? [21:08] wallyworld: yeah, they're freaking awesome... [21:08] glad you think so too [21:09] i can already hear the all blecks choking next year for the world cup [21:09] fcuk off [21:09] :-D [21:10] wallyworld: skype? so I can abuse you in private? [21:10] ok [21:27] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+bugs?field.tag=qa-needstesting [22:20] oh hai [22:21] hi lifeless [22:21] lifeless: back home? [22:21] yeah [22:21] walked in 10 minutes ago [22:21] lifeless: buildbot isn't happy [22:21] needs losa intervention I think, if its what was up yesterday [22:22] hello again [22:22] hi jml [22:22] lifeless: there are spurious windmill failures on devel [22:22] thumper: hi [22:22] I'm spinning up a test for devel to see if they are fine here [22:23] I'm guessing it is a race condition and crappy timing [22:23] * jml is in a Delta lounge, making lots of daily builds [22:24] (all of which fail to build from source, but there's only so much one can do). [22:26] Are many of the interesting ones importable? [22:26] Lots need submodules :( [22:27] wgrant: well, these are all for projects that use bzr in upstream [22:28] jml: and none build locally? [22:28] thumper: pff, a secondary consideration [22:28] Ah [22:29] thumper: more seriously, it has taken roughly an hour to get these recipes created properly [22:30] jml: what were the pain points? [22:30] thumper: slow internet, finding packaging source, lack of nest-part [22:30] nest-part is coming... [22:30] and had landed but was then reverted [22:30] thumper: yeah, I saw [22:30] not sure how our changes caused the build farm to crap itself though [22:31] thumper: no idea either. [22:31] Do you know what bzr version is running outside the chroot? [22:31] thumper: we have quite a lot of information on the symptoms of the failure. if you think that will help, hassle bigjools [22:31] … when he gets back [22:31] wgrant: not exactly, 2.2 I think [22:32] :( [22:32] jml: my solution is to offload the entire thing onto bigjools [22:32] jml: it isn't something I can help with IMO [22:32] perhaps getting aaron to work with him, but we don't have the access or knowledge in this area [22:33] https://code.launchpad.net/~lifeless/launchpad/prejoin/+merge/39720 [22:33] https://code.launchpad.net/~lifeless/launchpad/mentoring/+merge/39721 [22:33] lifeless: yeah, I saw the first. I'll review it now. [22:34] lifeless: is that an exact duplicate of DecoratedResultSet? the name implies that it does something prejoin-y [22:35] jml: different syntax for use and less flexible. [22:36] jml: no active users in the code base. [22:36] lifeless: +1 [22:38] jml: I've been tweaking databasefixture but nothing substantial; you could look to see if there is anything unclear in my tweaks [22:38] lifeless: I won't have time before I board, sorry. [22:38] jml: no rush [22:38] jml: I'll toss it at ec2, and if we need to iterate, we can iterate. [22:42] lifeless: you'll no doubt be shocked to know that my testtools-experiment branch failed a test run. [22:44] thumper: that's fair enough. although, it would be good if we could spread the knowledge about these things to outside the soyuz team. [22:44] jml: understood, but it is also access to dogfood [22:44] thumper: it would be good if we could spread access to effective dev environments beyond the soyuz team too :) [22:46] jml: yeah... talk to bigjools about dogfood :) [22:47] thumper: I have in the past. [22:48] anyway, my flight's boarding. [22:48] I guess I won't get time to make a testresources daily build [22:48] thumper: we have to fix the things preventing qa on qastaging. [22:48] thumper: some of those need code changes e.g. to log more. [22:49] lifeless: https://launchpad.net/~testing-cabal – I've created a bunch of daily builds in a naive "I'm just an upstream developer" way [22:49] jml: I'm shicked I tell you, shocked. [22:49] lifeless: although I'd be happy if you fixed them, I would like to know exactly how, so I can learn. [22:50] jml: the builds ? [22:50] jml: I haven't looked specifically, but the use of nesting seems odd to me. [22:50] lifeless: odder still to me, since I thought I was merging :) [22:51] jml: well, you mentioned in tihs channel something about nest-part [22:51] lifeless: it would be better if I could use it. [22:51] thumper: what build has the spurious windmill failures [22:51] lifeless: anyway, I have to go. [22:51] lifeless: devel [22:51] have a good day, antipodeans [22:51] jml: for testing sure, but for testing-cabal builds specifically I don't see why. [22:51] jml: ciao, fly well [22:51] jml: have a good flight [22:53] man, I really want to know my overall diffstat for lp. [22:53] like [22:53] am I (since the TA job) a net code increase or decrease. [22:53] and how much simple 'churn'. [22:55] lifeless: that info is there [22:56] lifeless: we record lines added and removed for the diffs [22:57] per merge sure [22:57] lifeless: well... what I'm saying is that the information is there so we could aggregate somehow [22:57] sure [22:57] lifeless: when the rollout happened the other day, did it go to arsenic? [22:58] lifeless: also, can we change the pageid for xmlrpc requests to include the method? [22:58] lifeless: that would give us much better idea of which method calls are failing [22:58] whats arsenic [22:59] yes, there is a bug already [23:07] thumper: I'm ratshit today as I'm sure you can imagine [23:08] thumper: I'm not going to drill into the buildbot thing unless you or someone else hits a wall there : I have a backlog from UDS already and just pushing that forward will consume my all [23:09] ack