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_schism_good evening all00:20
_schism_is there anyone on that can spare a few minutes to help with a java issue?00:21
zkriessei can try00:21
starcraftman_schism_: I'll warn you, we don't yet remotely fix coffee machines. 11.10 I think maybe. If it's the other java maybe.00:32
zkriesselol00:33
zkriessestarcraftman: ever the joker00:34
starcraftmanzkriesse: never, the joker's a maniac with a scary laugh.  I think mines more of an evil mad scientist one, maybe comical like the brain (a la pinky).00:36
zkriesselolz00:36
starcraftmanuh _schism_? You can ask your question, I'm just being late night amusing. We do most kinda questions and I know java too. :)00:39
_schism_starcraftman, lol sorry about the late reply. my 2 year old decided to swan dive down the stairs00:41
starcraftmanah ha00:41
zkriesseoh crap00:41
starcraftmanand ya, owie ,hope ok.00:42
* starcraftman learned from friends doesn't need kids.00:42
_schism_anyway I have the .18 java on my system and of course I need the .22 to play minecraft and I have googled and downloaded and installed to no avail.  can someone point me to where I need to be?00:42
_schism_starcraftman, yeah she is tough00:42
starcraftman_schism_: what version ubuntu ya running?00:43
starcraftmanlatest package should be past 18 I think.00:43
_schism_10.04 ubdated to it on 10-10 :)  I am fairly new to nix so wanna stay with a lts.00:44
starcraftmanhmmm, 10.10 java6 package is .2200:44
starcraftman_schism_: open terminal and type in: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-jre sun-java6-sdk00:45
_schism_I dunno and I have even downloaded it from the java site and tried to install it and no love00:45
starcraftmanthat should be all you need.00:45
_schism_starcraftman, yeah I did the apt thing as well :(00:45
_schism_schism@schismlaptop:~$ sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-jre sun-java6-sdk00:46
_schism_[sudo] password for schism:00:46
_schism_Reading package lists... Done00:46
_schism_Building dependency tree00:46
_schism_Reading state information... Done00:46
_schism_sun-java6-plugin is already the newest version.00:46
starcraftman_schism_: do you have those packages installed? There are several versions of jav.00:46
_schism_sun-java6-jre is already the newest version.00:46
_schism_E: Couldn't find package sun-java6-sdk00:46
starcraftmanhmmm00:46
_schism_schism@schismlaptop:~$ java -version00:47
_schism_java version "1.6.0_22"00:47
_schism_Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_22-b04)00:47
_schism_Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 17.1-b03, mixed mode)00:47
_schism_now its showing .22 wtf and minecraft and java.com says I am on .1800:47
starcraftman_schism_: you are using the correct version though.00:48
starcraftman_schism_: I don't know the means the site checks, java -version doesn't usually lie.00:48
_schism_hmmmmm00:48
_schism_I cant win00:48
starcraftman_schism_: minecraft still doesn't work?00:49
starcraftman_schism_: try > sudo update-alternatives --config java00:49
starcraftmanSelect the number of the version with sun java6 in the line.00:50
_schism_http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5008250/java-version.png00:51
starcraftman_schism_: use this site for future times you want to return outputs of terminal btw, prevents channel flooding (new lines are paresed as enter).00:52
_schism_http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5008250/java-cli-version.png00:53
_schism_that is the cli output. which one is it?00:53
starcraftman_schism_: The cli indicates your using the right jre, but the plugin for firefox maybe cofnused?00:54
_schism_didnt think of that. but then again chrome does the same thing. hmmmmm00:55
starcraftman_schism_: return in pastebin the output of this > aptitude search openjdk00:55
_schism_http://paste.ubuntu.com/522981/00:56
_schism_and you are so much better than google btw starcraftman00:58
starcraftman_schism_: I shall take that as a compliment.00:59
starcraftman_schism_: maybe one day google will hire me and I can make em better! :p00:59
_schism_lol it was a compliment00:59
starcraftmanhmmm, quite strange huh, if you do aptitude search java6-plugin, it listed as installed?01:03
_schism_http://paste.ubuntu.com/522984/01:07
_schism_looking at the fire fox add ons I see java console extension 1.6.0_0.2 maybe that will help?01:09
starcraftman_schism_: naw, under addons page, go to plugins tab, you should see IcedTea plugin.01:11
starcraftmanmine says 6b20, what's yours?01:12
_schism_6b18 and a bunch more01:13
starcraftmanhmmmm, interesting.01:13
_schism_want a screen of it for all the numbers?01:14
starcraftman_schism_: naw, aptitude show icedtea6-plugin01:15
starcraftmanthat say 20 or 18?01:15
starcraftmanshow icedtea6-plugin | grep 'Version:' < cleaner.01:16
_schism_http://paste.ubuntu.com/522990/01:17
_schism_ooopsss01:17
starcraftmanwell that seems to be the issue, weird, my meerkat repos have 20.01:18
_schism_cant grep it for some reason.01:18
starcraftman_schism_: I forgot aptitude on the front, hehe.01:18
starcraftmanit does say 18 though01:18
_schism_yeah I did aptitude01:19
starcraftman_schism_: pastebin me your sources file pls, from /etc/apt/sources.list01:20
_schism_http://paste.ubuntu.com/522995/01:22
starcraftman_schism_: didn't you say you upgraded to meerkat?01:23
starcraftmanyour main repos point to lucid.01:24
_schism_no 10.04 not 10.1001:24
starcraftmanoh01:24
Cheri703_schism_: can you completely uninstall java and then reinstall it?01:26
Cheri703vs trying to upgrade?01:26
Cheri703remove ALL java related things, then reinstall...perhaps?01:26
starcraftman_schism_: can you try reinstalling plugin maybe? Shut down firefox and then: sudo apt-get purge icedtea6-plugin && sudo apt-get install icedtea6-plugin01:27
starcraftmanCheri703: don't think that's quite required, locally he's pointing correctly, see config response above.01:27
_schism_sure didnt think of that and didnt see it online01:27
starcraftmanJust seems to be plugin.01:27
Cheri703kk01:27
Cheri703then do it with plugin :)01:27
_schism_and a question I normaly use aptitude is it interchangeable with apt?01:28
starcraftman_schism_: can always try the whole plugin after, there are several versions though, if you intend on a clean purge be sure to remove all the openjdk, sun-java6 and icedtea packages.01:28
starcraftman_schism_: not entirely, but for install/remove it does same, searching and afew other things are different.01:28
_schism_ok did the apt things time to reload firefox and see what happens01:29
starcraftman_schism_: I'll quote ya on "apt things" next time I hold a session :)01:30
_schism_lol01:30
_schism_and nope still showing 1801:30
starcraftman_schism_: hmmm, guess nuclear it is. Can you revert anything you did to install manually jre from sun and then uninstall all openjdk, sun-java6 and icedtea packages.01:32
_schism_<sigh> maybe I will have to reinstall windows......01:33
_schism_not!01:33
starcraftmanThen only reinstall sun-java6-plugin and sun-java6-jre01:33
_schism_ummm if I knew how I would01:33
starcraftman_schism_: right right, one sec, lemme right that for ya....01:34
_schism_ is it just open synaptic and remove everything java?01:34
_schism_lol I love being clueless01:34
starcraftman_schism_: that should work too.01:34
starcraftman_schism_: and your not clueless, you found IRC :)01:35
_schism_lol dude I used irc when gopher was king.  I am clueless and old :)01:35
_schism_oh wow the java search brings up all kinds of pages.  what should I use to narrow it down?01:37
starcraftman_schism_: Run this command : sudo aptitude purge openjdk-6-* sun-java6-* ia32-sun-java6-bin icedtea*sudo aptitude purge openjdk-6-* sun-java6-* ia32-sun-java6-bin icedtea* && sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin01:37
starcraftmanThat should eliminate all java packages and reinstall just the official build.01:38
_schism_okie dokie01:38
_schism_sudo aptitude purge openjdk-6-* sun-java6-* ia32-sun-java6-bin icedtea*sudo aptitude purge openjdk-6-* sun-java6-* ia32-sun-java6-bin icedtea* && sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin01:38
_schism_doh focus01:38
starcraftmanif there's a warning tell me. Don't proceed if it removes any core gnome files, or else pastebin related. Some packages are tied.01:38
_schism_http://paste.ubuntu.com/522998/   looks like errors but I am not sure01:39
starcraftmancrap, aptitude doesn't support wildcard * ? :/01:40
Cheri703try apt?01:40
_schism_do the same with apt-get maybe?01:41
starcraftmanaye, pretty basic feature to be lacking.01:41
starcraftmanjust swap aptitude for apt-get.01:41
_schism_http://paste.ubuntu.com/523000/01:41
_schism_:(01:41
_schism_guess I will have to give up <sniff><sniff>01:42
starcraftman_schism_: naw, remove after the &&  regex got confused.01:43
starcraftmanso run: sudo aptitude purge openjdk-6-* sun-java6-* ia32-sun-java6-bin icedtea*sudo apt-get purge openjdk-6-* sun-java6-* ia32-sun-java6-bin icedtea*01:43
_schism_then do it again with install instead of purge?01:43
starcraftmanthen: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin ia32-sun-java6-bin01:43
starcraftmanthose are the only needed packages far as I know.01:44
_schism_gah doing it again01:44
_schism_faiked01:44
_schism_failed even01:44
_schism_apt-get remove instead of purge maybe?01:45
* starcraftman must be getting tired.01:45
starcraftmanguess so.01:46
* starcraftman now thoroughly wants to whack java.01:46
_schism_gah no dice :(01:46
_schism_guess I will just deal with synauptic01:46
starcraftmanwell I gotta go anyhow, lil late, Cheri703 maybe ya can continue? Or someone else.01:47
Cheri703I will do what I can...01:47
Cheri703I'm not super familiar with it01:47
_schism_its not that big of a deal if no one can01:47
starcraftman_schism_: I guess, select the the packages that match the regex of the apt-line for removal then reinstall latter, all the java6 ones except db/fonts.01:48
frankcox777hello all-01:18
frankcox777is there such an animal as an ext4 filereader for windows?01:19
zkriesse_Probably not01:20
frankcox777figures seeing I choose to mount xubuntu on ext401:20
frankcox777I wish I could I could drom winders altogether but aome people have yet to see the light01:21
frankcox777so far 10.10 has worked perfectly, gave me a hard time partitioning at first but it runs well now01:23
frankcox777I suppose I could use fat32 for documents01:24
Cheri703frankcox777: desktop or laptop?01:27
frankcox777desktop01:32
Cheri703ah, ok01:32
Cheri703easiest way to deal with the different file extensions: pick up an inexpensive hdd, make it ntfs or fat32 and add it to the comp01:32
frankcox777I just tried to play music and video-spoke to soon, neither worked01:33
Cheri703I have one hdd for OS and one hdd for storage01:33
frankcox777That is what I will do-I have 2 drives,probably make one all fat3201:33
Cheri703it's just WAY easier01:34
Cheri703and then you can take your documents and pop them into another comp in case of tragedy :)01:34
frankcox777It seems that or reinstall to ext301:34
frankcox777too much trouble01:34
Cheri703yeah01:34
frankcox777irritating they did not put the gstreamer plugins into xubuntu-sound was one reason I finally decided to let 9:10 go01:35
Cheri703:/01:35
zkriesse_Xubuntu is too damn slow01:36
frankcox777what are you using?01:37
zkriesse_Me?01:39
frankcox777y01:39
zkriesse_Windows right now...gaming and because of school(college)01:39
frankcox777why are you at ubuntu forum? If gaming is a big deal to you Linux is not what you need01:41
frankcox777My install is faster than windows was on the same machine01:41
zkriesse_Oh I know01:43
zkriesse_I go between the two01:44
frankcox777oh01:44
zkriesse_Gaming isn't huge01:44
zkriesse_Mainly due to school01:44
frankcox777what do have to have windows for at school?01:44
zkriesse_Certain programs I have to use require ms01:45
zkriesse_College dude01:45
zkriesse_Gtg01:45
frankcox777guess he never heard of SoftMaker01:45
frankcox777anyone get the sound working in xubuntu 10.10? I thought they would have added oss01:57
frankcox777anyone got the sound working in xubuntu 10.10?02:14
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jledbetterfrankcox777, Might want to try in #xubuntu02:36
frankcox777thanks jledbetter02:41
jledbetterfrankcox777, You're welcome02:42
matthew_Hello04:47
geekosophergood morning all... lovely sunday!06:14
Cheri703hello06:15
geekosopherhi :)06:15
Cheri703how are you?06:15
geekosophergreat06:16
geekosopherand how are you?06:16
Cheri703doing alright :)06:17
geekosopherI am looking to do something this morning... anybody need extra hands?06:18
geekosopheroops! that question was meant for the team channel :)06:20
aluexhi07:19
aluexi wanna to change my login window07:19
aluexand i've downloaded some themes07:19
aluexbut i don't know how to configure it07:19
aluexneed help~07:20
bioterrorhttp://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-gdm-gnome-display-manager-theme-in-ubuntu.html this is how it used to be07:27
bioterrornowdays you dont have that kind of selection, right?07:27
aluexwhat selection?07:28
aluexthere is no "Login Window" entry in my Administration menu..07:32
aluexJust Login Screen07:32
bioterroryeah07:33
bioterrorthat's what I was remembering07:33
aluexehmmm07:33
bioterroraluex, http://www.hackourlives.com/change-gdm-background-theme-in-ubuntu-10-10-maverick/07:37
aluexoh,.but , is gdm-theme no longer available?07:38
aluexi mean... not simply changing backgrounds07:38
aluexbioterror, poke07:48
bioterrorhop07:48
aluexbioterror, ?07:50
bioterrorwell, around 10.04 this possibility was removed07:51
aluexbioterror, ohh. Thank you ~07:53
aluex:)07:53
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Daniel0108hi :D08:53
hobgoblinmorning Daniel010808:54
hobgoblinpossibly anyway ;)08:54
Daniel0108morning ;)08:54
jezz_anyone able to help advise on ubuntu 8.10 an easy way to update xorg ?10:29
friTTe|sorry bvut that was before my Ubu time10:31
hobgoblinupdate it to what?10:31
bioterrorjezz_, update your ubuntu10:31
bioterror8.10 is not even LTS10:32
jezz_yes sure, tryign to update xorg to 1.610:32
bioterrorwhat?10:32
bioterror8.10 came with Xorg 7.410:33
Daniel0108hi10:34
jezz_sorry, xserver reports version 1.5.2 and want to find out how to upgrade to 1.610:34
bioterrorI think you mean package xserver-common10:36
jezz_ok, I see there are differences in the versions for xvideo, xinput, and extension10:36
jezz_is there a document that has steps on how to do this?10:37
bioterrorI still think you should upgrade your whole ubuntu from 8.10 to something newer like 10.0410:38
jezz_yep i have 10.10 on my main computer10:38
bioterroris there a reason why you're still using 8.10?10:38
jezz_im just trying to get opengl working properly on another system10:39
hobgoblinhttp://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3942 might be of some help10:39
VetinariHey hobgoblin10:42
hobgoblinhi Vetinari10:45
Vetinarihobgoblin: You know who I am, right?10:57
un_vampirI need help .... how can i print fastdraft in ubuntu11:05
un_vampirsuper.... i need windows back11:08
hobgoblinVetinari: unless you changed then yes:)11:09
shirish@ all Hi there, i am really stuck up at a point, I am installing RHEL 5.5, Ubuntu 10.10 and windows XP but, am unable to get both RHEL and Ubuntu on the same bootloader, either i get a ubuntu and XP combination, or RHEL and XP comb (GRUB loader) please help12:08
Goog_Joshdoes anybody khow why cron can't exec some applications like totem, kaffeine etc.?12:58
Goog_Joshdoes anybody khow why cron can't exec some applications like totem, kaffeine etc.?12:58
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ggeorgyhi !!!14:25
Bodsdahey ggeorgy14:27
ggeorgyi tryed to burn some dates on dvd-r but not work : error : Failure: SCSI error on write(0,16): [3 73 04] Program memory area update failure  -can you help me???14:32
ggeorgyplease14:32
ggeorgyi used different cd burner programs :brasero,xfburn but is same error14:34
Bodsdaggeorgy: what do you mean by 'some dates'?14:36
ggeorgymusic , images ...14:37
Bodsdaggeorgy: looking around, it seems to be an issue with Lite-On or Samsung drives.14:40
ggeorgyis missing any drivers?14:42
BodsdaIt looks like it is a firmware issue and is affecting Windows users as well. It is also not specific to any burning software, they will all experience issues. http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/disk-drives/f/3534/t/19330233.aspx    That link gives some advice on firmware updates/downgrades, but the solution may be a different drive14:43
Daniel0108hi14:56
cprofitthello Daniel010814:58
jerkcan I please know how I can play games on Ubuntu?15:17
jerkI mean, like on windows......like GTA, call of duty..15:18
pedro3005*some* will work on wine15:18
Joeb454jerk: http://appdb.winehq.org - search there to see how they'll work in wine15:19
jerkpedro3005: I have wine.....do I need to install directx or something too?15:19
ggeorgyexists some cool games for ubuntu15:19
ggeorgynot need directx15:19
jerkggeorgy: will check them out too :) .....meanwhile I need advice on playing windows games15:20
cook_I think my system is fucked15:20
ggeorgyok15:20
cook_>> /etc/sudoers: syntax error near line 5 <<< >>> /etc/sudoers: syntax error near line 5 <<< >>> /etc/sudoers: syntax error near line 8 <<< >>> /etc/sudoers: syntax error near line 11 <<< >>> /etc/sudoers: syntax error near line 13 <<< >>> /etc/sudoers: syntax error near line 17 <<< sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 5 sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting15:20
jerkthing is, I installed a pretty basic game, GTA Vice City...except that it hangs when I run it15:20
ggeorgyif you want play gta try gta san andreas it work15:21
hobgoblincheck the appdb at wine - might be as good as it gets - linux + wine does not = windows in all cases15:22
pedro3005cook_, paste the contents of /etc/sudoers15:22
hobgoblincook_: and mind the language too15:22
aveilleux!language | cook_15:32
ubot2cook_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.15:32
aveilleuxcook_: Were you editing the /etc/sudoers file manually? If so, why?15:33
jerk!OPENGL15:33
ubot2Factoid 'OPENGL' not found15:33
jerk!OpenGL15:34
ubot2Factoid 'OpenGL' not found15:34
jerkdammm15:34
aveilleuxjerk, ubot2 isn't a good substitute for just asking a question.15:34
jerkthought OpenGL was like directx for windows15:34
aveilleuxjerk, No. It's a different 3D system.15:34
jerkokay....what exactky is it?15:34
aveilleuxjerk: I... suppose you can think of it as DirectX, but it goes about the rendering process in a completely different manner,15:35
aveilleuxjerk: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL15:35
hobgoblinjerk: did you go and look at the appdb?15:35
jerkdoes that affeect gameplay?15:35
jerkwas trying to do that, hobgoblin15:35
jerkand it's nice to see you again15:36
aveilleuxjerk: Yes, translation from DirectX to OpenGL always affects performance.15:36
jerk:p15:36
hobgoblinjerk: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1369 check the did it run bit15:36
aveilleuxjerk: Most games support OpenGL mode, in my experience.15:36
hobgoblinjerk have you seen me before then? I'm old - I forget things lol15:36
jerkhobgoblin: yep, you recommended not using wubi to install ubuntu :p15:38
hobgoblinaah - sounds like something I would say :)15:38
aveilleuxjerk: Most older games (before 2006) will run just fine on WINE. Starcraft II is a notable exception, since it runs fine under WINE without modification.15:38
jerkaveilleux: is it something I need to install or is it preinstalled? [using 10.04]15:39
hobgoblinvice city appears to be oen which works fine so long as you deal with the second cd or it hangs15:39
hobgoblinjerk: wine is not a default install15:39
jerkhobgoblin: I wrecked my ROM over a bad dvd of ubuntu....so had to use a pendrive15:39
aveilleuxjerk, WINE is a separate package that you need to install.15:39
jerkno no, I meant OpenGL15:40
aveilleuxjerk: You can't wreck ROM *eyebrowraise*15:40
jerkI've got wine all right15:40
aveilleuxjerk: It comes preinstalled.15:40
aveilleuxjerk: Most modern OSs (except that one from Redmond, of course) ship with it.15:40
jerkaveilleux: looks like I am pioneer then :p15:40
aveilleuxjerk: ...ROM can't be modified... Read-Only Memory15:41
jerkI'm gonna give it another try, after reading the page hobgoblin gave15:41
jerkaveilleux: errr....I use computer lingo pretty shoddily....guess I meant my DVD drive15:42
aveilleuxjerk: That makes more sense.15:42
jerkeh hehehehe15:43
jerkokay, I'll BRB....doing some testing15:44
jerkwill post my results on testing Vice City15:44
aveilleuxI feel weird talking to someone named "jerk". I always feel like I'm yelling at them.15:45
hobgoblinlol15:46
hobgoblincould be worse - but then I guess we would have to kick them for inappropriate nick's :)15:47
cprofittno kikcing15:49
cprofittbut perhaps a PM to ask about their nick...15:49
cprofittit could be their initials15:49
hobgoblincprofitt: not talking about jerk - but it COULD be worse ...15:50
hobgoblinand it could also be a foody - jerk chicken15:50
cprofitthobgoblin: I understand, but unless you feel very strongly there is malicous intent it would always be best to PM them15:50
cprofittand discuss the issue15:51
cprofittI know you know that elfy15:51
hobgoblincprofitt: you misunderstand - if the nick was that bad a PM would likely make no difference at all :)15:52
cprofitthobgoblin: I do understand -- there are many possible reasons for bad nicks and with culture and language issues a PM is still the best option15:52
cprofitteven if it makes no difference in 99% of the cases - for the 1% it does I think it is worth the extra few seconds to few minutes15:53
hobgoblinwb jezz_16:06
hobgoblinwhoops16:06
hobgoblinwb jerk :)16:06
phillwhobgoblin: can you recall what the part of synaptic package manager is that does the 'quick search' part, as we do not use it by default on lubuntu.16:13
phillwI did see it on the forum, but it was quite a while back and I've slept since then and lost a few more brain cells :D16:13
jerkaww16:14
jerkthanks hobgoblin16:14
hobgoblinphillw: I am not at all sure16:14
bioterrorphillw, apt-cache search ;)16:14
jerkbad experiences with sound drivers man16:15
jerkI've got gigabyte AM chipset and can't get linux drivers for it16:15
jerksound drivers I mean16:15
cprofittjerk: do you know what model of sound card?16:18
ggeorgyi try to conect a cellphone [usb] but not work any ideas?16:29
ggeorgyplease16:30
AbhiJitggeorgy, try using wammu/gammu16:30
Cheri703what kind of phone ggeorgy16:31
Cheri703?16:31
jerkcprofitt: it's a built in card16:31
jerkin the chipset16:31
ggeorgyLG16:31
Cheri703is it just a general lg phone or android or?16:32
cprofittjerk: do you know how to do an lspci to get the details on the card16:32
ggeorgya simple lg phone16:32
cprofittdifferent mother board manufacturers can change the audio solution used16:32
bioterrorI bet you canc hoose from the phone do you want to use pc suite or mass storage mode16:32
Cheri703ok, one thing I ran into in the past was to restart the comp with the phone connected and it's more likely to recognize it...but I dunno about your specific phone16:33
ggeorgyi try the comand lsusb16:34
ggeorgy in the terminal16:34
ggeorgyand16:34
ggeorgyBus 002 Device 005: ID 1004:6000 LG Electronics, Inc. VX4400/VX6000 Cellphone16:35
ggeorgyBus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub16:35
ggeorgyBus 001 Device 002: ID 0ac8:3450 Z-Star Microelectronics Corp.16:35
ggeorgyBus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub16:35
ggeorgygheorghe@gheorghe-M61SME-S2L:~$ Bus 002 Device 005: ID 1004:6000 LG Electronics,16:35
ggeorgyi try to restart computer now and will be back16:35
* hobgoblin thinks it is seen as a storage device16:36
hobgoblindepends what they want it for I suspect16:37
ggeorgyi restarted the computer but not work16:38
ggeorgyany ideas???16:39
ggeorgyplease16:39
hobgoblinggeorgy: what is it you are actually trying to do with it? might make a difference here16:40
ggeorgyi want to copy some from phone to comp.16:41
hobgoblinggeorgy:  and what model is it ?16:41
ggeorgyfrom the phone's memory card16:41
ggeorgyi dont know16:42
nlsthznIf I have created a PGP key, uploaded it to the key server... then re-installed Ubuntu is it possible to import the key again from the key server or is there another why?16:42
ggeorgyi think it recognize the phone Bus 002 Device 002: ID 1004:6000 LG Electronics, Inc. VX4400/VX6000 Cellphone but how mount it16:43
ggeorgyis a lg u300c16:44
ggeorgynow can help me???16:44
bioterrorggeorgy, when you plug the usb cable, does it ask wheter to use storage mode or pc suite mode?16:45
ggeorgythe phone menu appear-conectivity-dial up network -usb activate16:46
nhandlernlsthzn: You upload your public key to the key server, not your private key. If you didn't back up your private key and don't have a revocation certificate, there isn't much you can do other than creating a new key16:47
ggeorgythe phone had not a pc suite mode16:49
nlsthznnhandler: Thank you so much... this is what I could gather from what I have read... that really sucks, I have (in my ignorance) created and now made useless about two or three keys this way with re-installations... does a clean up ever occur (there must be many unused and useless keys by now)16:49
nhandlerggeorgy: Maybe try doing it over bluetooth16:50
nhandlernlsthzn: I don't think so. Basically, when you create your new key, generate a revocation certificate and then backup the certificate and your private key somewhere safe16:50
nlsthznnhandler: Will do, thanks!16:51
ggeorgywhat?16:51
nhandler/34/3416:51
ggeorgyover bluetooth?16:51
nhandlerggeorgy: If your computer supports bluetooth (or if you have a bluetooth adapter), you can connect your phone to your computer to send/receive files16:52
ggeorgyi know but i haven't a blue.adapter16:52
ggeorgyi want conect from usb16:53
ggeorgyneed any driver??16:55
ggeorgy???????????????? :(16:56
ggeorgyyou sayd about any program who??16:58
ggeorgywhat programs needs??16:59
nhandlerggeorgy: I can't help you much with USB. Your phone might not allow it and I had several problems doing that. If you do decide to purchase a bluetooth adapter, the default bluetooth app (in the top panel by default) will allow you to interact with your phone17:02
Cheri703nhandler: not all phones support bluetooth file transfer17:02
Cheri703ggeorgy: if the info you're wanting is on the sd card, then perhaps a card reader would be the easiest answer? you can usually get them for under $1017:02
nhandlerCheri703: True, but for those that do, it is much easier than messing with USB17:03
ggeorgybut it recognize phone17:04
ggeorgyi try gmobilemedia17:06
Cheri703ggeorgy: what model is the phone?17:06
Cheri703specifically17:06
AbhiJiti suggested you to try gammu ggeorgy17:07
ggeorgyok17:07
ggeorgynot work17:10
ggeorgygammu is gmobilemedia17:11
ggeorgythe phone not appera in system-admin-disk utility17:13
Cheri703ggeorgy: I will ask again: what is the specific phone model?17:15
ggeorgylg u300c17:16
cprofittjerk: do you know how to get the model using lspci?17:16
cprofittggeorgy: does it support bluetooth?17:17
ggeorgyyes17:17
cprofittare you trying to transfer files?17:17
ggeorgyno17:18
ggeorgyyes from usb17:18
cprofittwell usb will depend on how the storage is presented17:19
cprofittso bluetooth might work even though usb does not17:19
ggeorgybut i want usb17:20
ggeorgyi havent blue adapter17:20
Cheri703is it the "lg shine"?17:20
Cheri703when you plug in the USB, what does it say on the phone?17:20
ggeorgythe phone say nothing17:21
ggeorgyi found USBPROG on software center can this help me??17:22
Cheri703ggeorgy: does it have an SD card?17:22
ggeorgyyes17:22
Cheri703also, out of curiosity, what is your native language?17:22
ggeorgyenglish17:22
Cheri703ok, can you get an inexpensive sd card reader? they can be found easily at most stores17:23
Cheri703ok17:23
Cheri703that is likely the easiest/most reliable way to do this17:24
Cheri703this is the phone? http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_u300-1628.php17:24
ggeorgyi have a card adapter but my comp has not a port for memory card adapter17:24
ggeorgyyes17:24
Cheri703ok, frankly, it's VERY VERY unlikely that a phone from 2006 is going to connect this way17:25
Cheri703phones back then needed very specific drivers and programs17:25
Cheri703you need something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-MobileMate-Plus-Memory-Reader/dp/B000Q3IUV217:26
Cheri703there are cheaper ones17:26
ggeorgyexist fot ubuntu?17:26
Cheri703yes, it turns the sd card into a flash drive basically17:26
Cheri703are you in the US?17:27
nlsthznCheri703: :) A phone from 2006 isn't that old, is it?17:27
ggeorgyyes but...17:27
Cheri703technology wise, yes :) as far as being able to connect to the computer, (from what I know) they didn't have the universal storage options like now17:27
Cheri703did you see that link nlsthzn?17:27
Cheri703it's an OLD style phone, probably one of the "free with contract" types17:27
ggeorgyok thanks for help!! good night!!!17:32
nlsthznCheri703: Sorry, no... stuck at work so a bit to busy to get into to much online currently (thats why I stayed out of this round :D)17:33
Cheri703understandable :) it's an old style flip phone17:33
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marmalade1Hello20:42
* seidos waves @ marmalade1 20:45
marmalade1hello to you seidos20:47
seidosmarmalade1, feeling well?20:48
marmalade1Yes very good thanks and yourself?20:48
marmalade1I can only get this working with pidgin but not with empathy for some reason20:50
seidosmarmalade1, i was able to get irc working with empathy, but that was only for a little while20:51
seidosmarmalade1, i am feeling alright20:51
marmalade1I find it does the job so maybe I wont fiddle to much or I could make it worse.20:52
marmalade1I have question have you heard of log me in a windows app?20:53
nhandlerNeither empathy or pidgin are good choices for irc clients20:56
marmalade1Hi handler what do you recommend?20:58
marmalade1sorry nhandler20:59
nhandlermarmalade1: irssi+screen. Or if you want a GUI client, xchat isn't too bad. Even webchat.freenode.net is better than those clients20:59
nlsthzn+1 for IRC... I lasted all of 5 minutes using Empathy :)21:02
marmalade1Thank you for your help. Sorry just realised what the time is I have to log off.21:02
nlsthznI meant +1 for XChat (not IRC lol)21:04
UndiFineDnlsthzn, if you're truly 1337 use telnet21:17
UndiFineDthere actually was a session at UDS regarding empathy IRC and what improvements could be made21:18
UndiFineDwhich I found somewhat disappointing as the referred to freenodes webchat all the time21:19
nlsthznUndiFineD: I am currently using freenode webchat (at work, behind firewalls etc.) and it sucks, no spell checking QQ21:36
sebsebsebHi21:49
=== juju2143 is now known as Jweenu
duanedesign /922:31
starcraftmanduanedesign: 9 have a special meaning?22:34
duanedesignstarcraftman: that is the #ubuntuone channel in my IRC Client22:55
starcraftmanduanedesign: ah, I see.22:55
glaucousDo someone have the /etc/apt/sources.list for Maverick available? Mine got corrupted.23:28
nlsthznSucks being stuck at work on Windows :(23:29
UndiFineDglaucous,23:29
UndiFineDhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/523547/23:30
UndiFineDthat is quite complete, mine has more ppas23:31
glaucousUndiFineD, thanks, hopefully it works. Trying it.23:31
glaucousUndiFineD, looks like its working, thank you23:33
brennydooglesHow's life all?23:35
brennydooglestronyx,23:35
nlsthznbrennydoogles: Outstanding :D ,and yours?23:35
brennydooglesPretty Ok nlsthzn !23:35
brennydooglesJust trying to fix my grub223:36
brennydoogleslol23:36
brennydooglesIt lost Windows 723:36
nlsthznbrennydoogles: I think it might be on purpose ;)23:36
brennydoogleslol23:36
brennydooglesProbably23:36
brennydooglesGlad to have Linux back though23:37
brennydooglesI've had the new laptop for about 3 weeks, and just now had a chance to install23:37
nlsthznsucks that you have to mess with GRUB :/ Revenge of the Linux23:43
brennydooglesyes...23:45
brennydooglesany advice?23:45
Cheri703no idea if this will fix it, but try running update-grub ? I think that's the command...23:46
nlsthznbrennydoogles: Last time I had to mess with GRUB it was not GRUB2 which I have heard is a completely different beast all together... sorry23:47
brennydooglesIt is indeed23:47
brennydooglesmessing with grub legacy was a piece of cake23:48
brennydoogleswell kids, I'm going to reboot to see how badly I've borked everything23:54
brennydooglesWish me luck!23:54

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