[00:20] <_schism_> good evening all [00:21] <_schism_> is there anyone on that can spare a few minutes to help with a java issue? [00:21] i can try [00:32] _schism_: I'll warn you, we don't yet remotely fix coffee machines. 11.10 I think maybe. If it's the other java maybe. [00:33] lol [00:34] starcraftman: ever the joker [00:36] zkriesse: never, the joker's a maniac with a scary laugh. I think mines more of an evil mad scientist one, maybe comical like the brain (a la pinky). [00:36] lolz [00:39] uh _schism_? You can ask your question, I'm just being late night amusing. We do most kinda questions and I know java too. :) [00:41] <_schism_> starcraftman, lol sorry about the late reply. my 2 year old decided to swan dive down the stairs [00:41] ah ha [00:41] oh crap [00:42] and ya, owie ,hope ok. [00:42] * starcraftman learned from friends doesn't need kids. [00:42] <_schism_> anyway I have the .18 java on my system and of course I need the .22 to play minecraft and I have googled and downloaded and installed to no avail. can someone point me to where I need to be? [00:42] <_schism_> starcraftman, yeah she is tough [00:43] _schism_: what version ubuntu ya running? [00:43] latest package should be past 18 I think. [00:44] <_schism_> 10.04 ubdated to it on 10-10 :) I am fairly new to nix so wanna stay with a lts. [00:44] hmmm, 10.10 java6 package is .22 [00:45] _schism_: open terminal and type in: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-jre sun-java6-sdk [00:45] <_schism_> I dunno and I have even downloaded it from the java site and tried to install it and no love [00:45] that should be all you need. [00:45] <_schism_> starcraftman, yeah I did the apt thing as well :( [00:46] <_schism_> schism@schismlaptop:~$ sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-jre sun-java6-sdk [00:46] <_schism_> [sudo] password for schism: [00:46] <_schism_> Reading package lists... Done [00:46] <_schism_> Building dependency tree [00:46] <_schism_> Reading state information... Done [00:46] <_schism_> sun-java6-plugin is already the newest version. [00:46] _schism_: do you have those packages installed? There are several versions of jav. [00:46] <_schism_> sun-java6-jre is already the newest version. [00:46] <_schism_> E: Couldn't find package sun-java6-sdk [00:46] hmmm [00:47] <_schism_> schism@schismlaptop:~$ java -version [00:47] <_schism_> java version "1.6.0_22" [00:47] <_schism_> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_22-b04) [00:47] <_schism_> Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 17.1-b03, mixed mode) [00:47] <_schism_> now its showing .22 wtf and minecraft and java.com says I am on .18 [00:48] _schism_: you are using the correct version though. [00:48] _schism_: I don't know the means the site checks, java -version doesn't usually lie. [00:48] <_schism_> hmmmmm [00:48] <_schism_> I cant win [00:49] _schism_: minecraft still doesn't work? [00:49] _schism_: try > sudo update-alternatives --config java [00:50] Select the number of the version with sun java6 in the line. [00:51] <_schism_> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5008250/java-version.png [00:52] _schism_: use this site for future times you want to return outputs of terminal btw, prevents channel flooding (new lines are paresed as enter). [00:53] <_schism_> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5008250/java-cli-version.png [00:53] <_schism_> that is the cli output. which one is it? [00:54] _schism_: The cli indicates your using the right jre, but the plugin for firefox maybe cofnused? [00:55] <_schism_> didnt think of that. but then again chrome does the same thing. hmmmmm [00:55] _schism_: return in pastebin the output of this > aptitude search openjdk [00:56] <_schism_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/522981/ [00:58] <_schism_> and you are so much better than google btw starcraftman [00:59] _schism_: I shall take that as a compliment. [00:59] _schism_: maybe one day google will hire me and I can make em better! :p [00:59] <_schism_> lol it was a compliment [01:03] hmmm, quite strange huh, if you do aptitude search java6-plugin, it listed as installed? [01:07] <_schism_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/522984/ [01:09] <_schism_> looking at the fire fox add ons I see java console extension 1.6.0_0.2 maybe that will help? [01:11] _schism_: naw, under addons page, go to plugins tab, you should see IcedTea plugin. [01:12] mine says 6b20, what's yours? [01:13] <_schism_> 6b18 and a bunch more [01:13] hmmmm, interesting. [01:14] <_schism_> want a screen of it for all the numbers? [01:15] _schism_: naw, aptitude show icedtea6-plugin [01:15] that say 20 or 18? [01:16] show icedtea6-plugin | grep 'Version:' < cleaner. [01:17] <_schism_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/522990/ [01:17] <_schism_> ooopsss [01:18] well that seems to be the issue, weird, my meerkat repos have 20. [01:18] <_schism_> cant grep it for some reason. [01:18] _schism_: I forgot aptitude on the front, hehe. [01:18] it does say 18 though [01:19] <_schism_> yeah I did aptitude [01:20] _schism_: pastebin me your sources file pls, from /etc/apt/sources.list [01:22] <_schism_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/522995/ [01:23] _schism_: didn't you say you upgraded to meerkat? [01:24] your main repos point to lucid. [01:24] <_schism_> no 10.04 not 10.10 [01:24] oh [01:26] _schism_: can you completely uninstall java and then reinstall it? [01:26] vs trying to upgrade? [01:26] remove ALL java related things, then reinstall...perhaps? [01:27] _schism_: can you try reinstalling plugin maybe? Shut down firefox and then: sudo apt-get purge icedtea6-plugin && sudo apt-get install icedtea6-plugin [01:27] Cheri703: don't think that's quite required, locally he's pointing correctly, see config response above. [01:27] <_schism_> sure didnt think of that and didnt see it online [01:27] Just seems to be plugin. [01:27] kk [01:27] then do it with plugin :) [01:28] <_schism_> and a question I normaly use aptitude is it interchangeable with apt? [01:28] _schism_: can always try the whole plugin after, there are several versions though, if you intend on a clean purge be sure to remove all the openjdk, sun-java6 and icedtea packages. [01:28] _schism_: not entirely, but for install/remove it does same, searching and afew other things are different. [01:29] <_schism_> ok did the apt things time to reload firefox and see what happens [01:30] _schism_: I'll quote ya on "apt things" next time I hold a session :) [01:30] <_schism_> lol [01:30] <_schism_> and nope still showing 18 [01:32] _schism_: hmmm, guess nuclear it is. Can you revert anything you did to install manually jre from sun and then uninstall all openjdk, sun-java6 and icedtea packages. [01:33] <_schism_> maybe I will have to reinstall windows...... [01:33] <_schism_> not! [01:33] Then only reinstall sun-java6-plugin and sun-java6-jre [01:33] <_schism_> ummm if I knew how I would [01:34] _schism_: right right, one sec, lemme right that for ya.... [01:34] <_schism_> is it just open synaptic and remove everything java? [01:34] <_schism_> lol I love being clueless [01:34] _schism_: that should work too. [01:35] _schism_: and your not clueless, you found IRC :) [01:35] <_schism_> lol dude I used irc when gopher was king. I am clueless and old :) [01:37] <_schism_> oh wow the java search brings up all kinds of pages. what should I use to narrow it down? [01:37] _schism_: Run this command : sudo aptitude purge openjdk-6-* sun-java6-* ia32-sun-java6-bin icedtea*sudo aptitude purge openjdk-6-* sun-java6-* ia32-sun-java6-bin icedtea* && sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin [01:38] That should eliminate all java packages and reinstall just the official build. [01:38] <_schism_> okie dokie [01:38] <_schism_> sudo aptitude purge openjdk-6-* sun-java6-* ia32-sun-java6-bin icedtea*sudo aptitude purge openjdk-6-* sun-java6-* ia32-sun-java6-bin icedtea* && sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin [01:38] <_schism_> doh focus [01:38] if there's a warning tell me. Don't proceed if it removes any core gnome files, or else pastebin related. Some packages are tied. [01:39] <_schism_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/522998/ looks like errors but I am not sure [01:40] crap, aptitude doesn't support wildcard * ? :/ [01:40] try apt? [01:41] <_schism_> do the same with apt-get maybe? [01:41] aye, pretty basic feature to be lacking. [01:41] just swap aptitude for apt-get. [01:41] <_schism_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/523000/ [01:41] <_schism_> :( [01:42] <_schism_> guess I will have to give up [01:43] _schism_: naw, remove after the && regex got confused. [01:43] so run: sudo aptitude purge openjdk-6-* sun-java6-* ia32-sun-java6-bin icedtea*sudo apt-get purge openjdk-6-* sun-java6-* ia32-sun-java6-bin icedtea* [01:43] <_schism_> then do it again with install instead of purge? [01:43] then: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin ia32-sun-java6-bin [01:44] those are the only needed packages far as I know. [01:44] <_schism_> gah doing it again [01:44] <_schism_> faiked [01:44] <_schism_> failed even [01:45] <_schism_> apt-get remove instead of purge maybe? [01:45] * starcraftman must be getting tired. [01:46] guess so. [01:46] * starcraftman now thoroughly wants to whack java. [01:46] <_schism_> gah no dice :( [01:46] <_schism_> guess I will just deal with synauptic [01:47] well I gotta go anyhow, lil late, Cheri703 maybe ya can continue? Or someone else. [01:47] I will do what I can... [01:47] I'm not super familiar with it [01:47] <_schism_> its not that big of a deal if no one can [01:48] _schism_: I guess, select the the packages that match the regex of the apt-line for removal then reinstall latter, all the java6 ones except db/fonts. [01:18] hello all- [01:19] is there such an animal as an ext4 filereader for windows? [01:20] Probably not [01:20] figures seeing I choose to mount xubuntu on ext4 [01:21] I wish I could I could drom winders altogether but aome people have yet to see the light [01:23] so far 10.10 has worked perfectly, gave me a hard time partitioning at first but it runs well now [01:24] I suppose I could use fat32 for documents [01:27] frankcox777: desktop or laptop? [01:32] desktop [01:32] ah, ok [01:32] easiest way to deal with the different file extensions: pick up an inexpensive hdd, make it ntfs or fat32 and add it to the comp [01:33] I just tried to play music and video-spoke to soon, neither worked [01:33] I have one hdd for OS and one hdd for storage [01:33] That is what I will do-I have 2 drives,probably make one all fat32 [01:34] it's just WAY easier [01:34] and then you can take your documents and pop them into another comp in case of tragedy :) [01:34] It seems that or reinstall to ext3 [01:34] too much trouble [01:34] yeah [01:35] irritating they did not put the gstreamer plugins into xubuntu-sound was one reason I finally decided to let 9:10 go [01:35] :/ [01:36] Xubuntu is too damn slow [01:37] what are you using? [01:39] Me? [01:39] y [01:39] Windows right now...gaming and because of school(college) [01:41] why are you at ubuntu forum? If gaming is a big deal to you Linux is not what you need [01:41] My install is faster than windows was on the same machine [01:43] Oh I know [01:44] I go between the two [01:44] oh [01:44] Gaming isn't huge [01:44] Mainly due to school [01:44] what do have to have windows for at school? [01:45] Certain programs I have to use require ms [01:45] College dude [01:45] Gtg [01:45] guess he never heard of SoftMaker [01:57] anyone get the sound working in xubuntu 10.10? I thought they would have added oss [02:14] anyone got the sound working in xubuntu 10.10? === PabloRubianes_ is now known as PabloRubianes [02:36] frankcox777, Might want to try in #xubuntu [02:41] thanks jledbetter [02:42] frankcox777, You're welcome [04:47] Hello [06:14] good morning all... lovely sunday! [06:15] hello [06:15] hi :) [06:15] how are you? [06:16] great [06:16] and how are you? [06:17] doing alright :) [06:18] I am looking to do something this morning... anybody need extra hands? [06:20] oops! that question was meant for the team channel :) [07:19] hi [07:19] i wanna to change my login window [07:19] and i've downloaded some themes [07:19] but i don't know how to configure it [07:20] need help~ [07:27] http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-gdm-gnome-display-manager-theme-in-ubuntu.html this is how it used to be [07:27] nowdays you dont have that kind of selection, right? [07:28] what selection? [07:32] there is no "Login Window" entry in my Administration menu.. [07:32] Just Login Screen [07:33] yeah [07:33] that's what I was remembering [07:33] ehmmm [07:37] aluex, http://www.hackourlives.com/change-gdm-background-theme-in-ubuntu-10-10-maverick/ [07:38] oh,.but , is gdm-theme no longer available? [07:38] i mean... not simply changing backgrounds [07:48] bioterror, poke [07:48] hop [07:50] bioterror, ? [07:51] well, around 10.04 this possibility was removed [07:53] bioterror, ohh. Thank you ~ [07:53] :) === AbhiJit_ is now known as AbhiJit [08:53] hi :D [08:54] morning Daniel0108 [08:54] possibly anyway ;) [08:54] morning ;) [10:29] anyone able to help advise on ubuntu 8.10 an easy way to update xorg ? [10:31] sorry bvut that was before my Ubu time [10:31] update it to what? [10:31] jezz_, update your ubuntu [10:32] 8.10 is not even LTS [10:32] yes sure, tryign to update xorg to 1.6 [10:32] what? [10:33] 8.10 came with Xorg 7.4 [10:34] hi [10:34] sorry, xserver reports version 1.5.2 and want to find out how to upgrade to 1.6 [10:36] I think you mean package xserver-common [10:36] ok, I see there are differences in the versions for xvideo, xinput, and extension [10:37] is there a document that has steps on how to do this? [10:38] I still think you should upgrade your whole ubuntu from 8.10 to something newer like 10.04 [10:38] yep i have 10.10 on my main computer [10:38] is there a reason why you're still using 8.10? [10:39] im just trying to get opengl working properly on another system [10:39] http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3942 might be of some help [10:42] Hey hobgoblin [10:45] hi Vetinari [10:57] hobgoblin: You know who I am, right? [11:05] I need help .... how can i print fastdraft in ubuntu [11:08] super.... i need windows back [11:09] Vetinari: unless you changed then yes:) [12:08] @ all Hi there, i am really stuck up at a point, I am installing RHEL 5.5, Ubuntu 10.10 and windows XP but, am unable to get both RHEL and Ubuntu on the same bootloader, either i get a ubuntu and XP combination, or RHEL and XP comb (GRUB loader) please help [12:58] does anybody khow why cron can't exec some applications like totem, kaffeine etc.? [12:58] does anybody khow why cron can't exec some applications like totem, kaffeine etc.? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [14:25] hi !!! [14:27] hey ggeorgy [14:32] i tryed to burn some dates on dvd-r but not work : error : Failure: SCSI error on write(0,16): [3 73 04] Program memory area update failure -can you help me??? [14:32] please [14:34] i used different cd burner programs :brasero,xfburn but is same error [14:36] ggeorgy: what do you mean by 'some dates'? [14:37] music , images ... [14:40] ggeorgy: looking around, it seems to be an issue with Lite-On or Samsung drives. [14:42] is missing any drivers? [14:43] It looks like it is a firmware issue and is affecting Windows users as well. It is also not specific to any burning software, they will all experience issues. http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/disk-drives/f/3534/t/19330233.aspx That link gives some advice on firmware updates/downgrades, but the solution may be a different drive [14:56] hi [14:58] hello Daniel0108 [15:17] can I please know how I can play games on Ubuntu? [15:18] I mean, like on windows......like GTA, call of duty.. [15:18] *some* will work on wine [15:19] jerk: http://appdb.winehq.org - search there to see how they'll work in wine [15:19] pedro3005: I have wine.....do I need to install directx or something too? [15:19] exists some cool games for ubuntu [15:19] not need directx [15:20] ggeorgy: will check them out too :) .....meanwhile I need advice on playing windows games [15:20] I think my system is fucked [15:20] ok [15:20] >> /etc/sudoers: syntax error near line 5 <<< >>> /etc/sudoers: syntax error near line 5 <<< >>> /etc/sudoers: syntax error near line 8 <<< >>> /etc/sudoers: syntax error near line 11 <<< >>> /etc/sudoers: syntax error near line 13 <<< >>> /etc/sudoers: syntax error near line 17 <<< sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 5 sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting [15:20] thing is, I installed a pretty basic game, GTA Vice City...except that it hangs when I run it [15:21] if you want play gta try gta san andreas it work [15:22] check the appdb at wine - might be as good as it gets - linux + wine does not = windows in all cases [15:22] cook_, paste the contents of /etc/sudoers [15:22] cook_: and mind the language too [15:32] !language | cook_ [15:32] cook_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [15:33] cook_: Were you editing the /etc/sudoers file manually? If so, why? [15:33] !OPENGL [15:33] Factoid 'OPENGL' not found [15:34] !OpenGL [15:34] Factoid 'OpenGL' not found [15:34] dammm [15:34] jerk, ubot2 isn't a good substitute for just asking a question. [15:34] thought OpenGL was like directx for windows [15:34] jerk, No. It's a different 3D system. [15:34] okay....what exactky is it? [15:35] jerk: I... suppose you can think of it as DirectX, but it goes about the rendering process in a completely different manner, [15:35] jerk: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL [15:35] jerk: did you go and look at the appdb? [15:35] does that affeect gameplay? [15:35] was trying to do that, hobgoblin [15:36] and it's nice to see you again [15:36] jerk: Yes, translation from DirectX to OpenGL always affects performance. [15:36] :p [15:36] jerk: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1369 check the did it run bit [15:36] jerk: Most games support OpenGL mode, in my experience. [15:36] jerk have you seen me before then? I'm old - I forget things lol [15:38] hobgoblin: yep, you recommended not using wubi to install ubuntu :p [15:38] aah - sounds like something I would say :) [15:38] jerk: Most older games (before 2006) will run just fine on WINE. Starcraft II is a notable exception, since it runs fine under WINE without modification. [15:39] aveilleux: is it something I need to install or is it preinstalled? [using 10.04] [15:39] vice city appears to be oen which works fine so long as you deal with the second cd or it hangs [15:39] jerk: wine is not a default install [15:39] hobgoblin: I wrecked my ROM over a bad dvd of ubuntu....so had to use a pendrive [15:39] jerk, WINE is a separate package that you need to install. [15:40] no no, I meant OpenGL [15:40] jerk: You can't wreck ROM *eyebrowraise* [15:40] I've got wine all right [15:40] jerk: It comes preinstalled. [15:40] jerk: Most modern OSs (except that one from Redmond, of course) ship with it. [15:40] aveilleux: looks like I am pioneer then :p [15:41] jerk: ...ROM can't be modified... Read-Only Memory [15:41] I'm gonna give it another try, after reading the page hobgoblin gave [15:42] aveilleux: errr....I use computer lingo pretty shoddily....guess I meant my DVD drive [15:42] jerk: That makes more sense. [15:43] eh hehehehe [15:44] okay, I'll BRB....doing some testing [15:44] will post my results on testing Vice City [15:45] I feel weird talking to someone named "jerk". I always feel like I'm yelling at them. [15:46] lol [15:47] could be worse - but then I guess we would have to kick them for inappropriate nick's :) [15:49] no kikcing [15:49] but perhaps a PM to ask about their nick... [15:49] it could be their initials [15:50] cprofitt: not talking about jerk - but it COULD be worse ... [15:50] and it could also be a foody - jerk chicken [15:50] hobgoblin: I understand, but unless you feel very strongly there is malicous intent it would always be best to PM them [15:51] and discuss the issue [15:51] I know you know that elfy [15:52] cprofitt: you misunderstand - if the nick was that bad a PM would likely make no difference at all :) [15:52] hobgoblin: I do understand -- there are many possible reasons for bad nicks and with culture and language issues a PM is still the best option [15:53] even if it makes no difference in 99% of the cases - for the 1% it does I think it is worth the extra few seconds to few minutes [16:06] wb jezz_ [16:06] whoops [16:06] wb jerk :) [16:13] hobgoblin: can you recall what the part of synaptic package manager is that does the 'quick search' part, as we do not use it by default on lubuntu. [16:13] I did see it on the forum, but it was quite a while back and I've slept since then and lost a few more brain cells :D [16:14] aww [16:14] thanks hobgoblin [16:14] phillw: I am not at all sure [16:14] phillw, apt-cache search ;) [16:15] bad experiences with sound drivers man [16:15] I've got gigabyte AM chipset and can't get linux drivers for it [16:15] sound drivers I mean [16:18] jerk: do you know what model of sound card? [16:29] i try to conect a cellphone [usb] but not work any ideas? [16:30] please [16:30] ggeorgy, try using wammu/gammu [16:31] what kind of phone ggeorgy [16:31] ? [16:31] cprofitt: it's a built in card [16:31] in the chipset [16:31] LG [16:32] is it just a general lg phone or android or? [16:32] jerk: do you know how to do an lspci to get the details on the card [16:32] a simple lg phone [16:32] different mother board manufacturers can change the audio solution used [16:32] I bet you canc hoose from the phone do you want to use pc suite or mass storage mode [16:33] ok, one thing I ran into in the past was to restart the comp with the phone connected and it's more likely to recognize it...but I dunno about your specific phone [16:34] i try the comand lsusb [16:34] in the terminal [16:34] and [16:35] Bus 002 Device 005: ID 1004:6000 LG Electronics, Inc. VX4400/VX6000 Cellphone [16:35] Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub [16:35] Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0ac8:3450 Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. [16:35] Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub [16:35] gheorghe@gheorghe-M61SME-S2L:~$ Bus 002 Device 005: ID 1004:6000 LG Electronics, [16:35] i try to restart computer now and will be back [16:36] * hobgoblin thinks it is seen as a storage device [16:37] depends what they want it for I suspect [16:38] i restarted the computer but not work [16:39] any ideas??? [16:39] please [16:40] ggeorgy: what is it you are actually trying to do with it? might make a difference here [16:41] i want to copy some from phone to comp. [16:41] ggeorgy: and what model is it ? [16:41] from the phone's memory card [16:42] i dont know [16:42] If I have created a PGP key, uploaded it to the key server... then re-installed Ubuntu is it possible to import the key again from the key server or is there another why? [16:43] i think it recognize the phone Bus 002 Device 002: ID 1004:6000 LG Electronics, Inc. VX4400/VX6000 Cellphone but how mount it [16:44] is a lg u300c [16:44] now can help me??? [16:45] ggeorgy, when you plug the usb cable, does it ask wheter to use storage mode or pc suite mode? [16:46] the phone menu appear-conectivity-dial up network -usb activate [16:47] nlsthzn: You upload your public key to the key server, not your private key. If you didn't back up your private key and don't have a revocation certificate, there isn't much you can do other than creating a new key [16:49] the phone had not a pc suite mode [16:49] nhandler: Thank you so much... this is what I could gather from what I have read... that really sucks, I have (in my ignorance) created and now made useless about two or three keys this way with re-installations... does a clean up ever occur (there must be many unused and useless keys by now) [16:50] ggeorgy: Maybe try doing it over bluetooth [16:50] nlsthzn: I don't think so. Basically, when you create your new key, generate a revocation certificate and then backup the certificate and your private key somewhere safe [16:51] nhandler: Will do, thanks! [16:51] what? [16:51] /34/34 [16:51] over bluetooth? [16:52] ggeorgy: If your computer supports bluetooth (or if you have a bluetooth adapter), you can connect your phone to your computer to send/receive files [16:52] i know but i haven't a blue.adapter [16:53] i want conect from usb [16:55] need any driver?? [16:56] ???????????????? :( [16:58] you sayd about any program who?? [16:59] what programs needs?? [17:02] ggeorgy: I can't help you much with USB. Your phone might not allow it and I had several problems doing that. If you do decide to purchase a bluetooth adapter, the default bluetooth app (in the top panel by default) will allow you to interact with your phone [17:02] nhandler: not all phones support bluetooth file transfer [17:02] ggeorgy: if the info you're wanting is on the sd card, then perhaps a card reader would be the easiest answer? you can usually get them for under $10 [17:03] Cheri703: True, but for those that do, it is much easier than messing with USB [17:04] but it recognize phone [17:06] i try gmobilemedia [17:06] ggeorgy: what model is the phone? [17:06] specifically [17:07] i suggested you to try gammu ggeorgy [17:07] ok [17:10] not work [17:11] gammu is gmobilemedia [17:13] the phone not appera in system-admin-disk utility [17:15] ggeorgy: I will ask again: what is the specific phone model? [17:16] lg u300c [17:16] jerk: do you know how to get the model using lspci? [17:17] ggeorgy: does it support bluetooth? [17:17] yes [17:17] are you trying to transfer files? [17:18] no [17:18] yes from usb [17:19] well usb will depend on how the storage is presented [17:19] so bluetooth might work even though usb does not [17:20] but i want usb [17:20] i havent blue adapter [17:20] is it the "lg shine"? [17:20] when you plug in the USB, what does it say on the phone? [17:21] the phone say nothing [17:22] i found USBPROG on software center can this help me?? [17:22] ggeorgy: does it have an SD card? [17:22] yes [17:22] also, out of curiosity, what is your native language? [17:22] english [17:23] ok, can you get an inexpensive sd card reader? they can be found easily at most stores [17:23] ok [17:24] that is likely the easiest/most reliable way to do this [17:24] this is the phone? http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_u300-1628.php [17:24] i have a card adapter but my comp has not a port for memory card adapter [17:24] yes [17:25] ok, frankly, it's VERY VERY unlikely that a phone from 2006 is going to connect this way [17:25] phones back then needed very specific drivers and programs [17:26] you need something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-MobileMate-Plus-Memory-Reader/dp/B000Q3IUV2 [17:26] there are cheaper ones [17:26] exist fot ubuntu? [17:26] yes, it turns the sd card into a flash drive basically [17:27] are you in the US? [17:27] Cheri703: :) A phone from 2006 isn't that old, is it? [17:27] yes but... [17:27] technology wise, yes :) as far as being able to connect to the computer, (from what I know) they didn't have the universal storage options like now [17:27] did you see that link nlsthzn? [17:27] it's an OLD style phone, probably one of the "free with contract" types [17:32] ok thanks for help!! good night!!! [17:33] Cheri703: Sorry, no... stuck at work so a bit to busy to get into to much online currently (thats why I stayed out of this round :D) [17:33] understandable :) it's an old style flip phone === MichealH is now known as Micheal_Skeleton [20:42] Hello [20:45] * seidos waves @ marmalade1 [20:47] hello to you seidos [20:48] marmalade1, feeling well? [20:48] Yes very good thanks and yourself? [20:50] I can only get this working with pidgin but not with empathy for some reason [20:51] marmalade1, i was able to get irc working with empathy, but that was only for a little while [20:51] marmalade1, i am feeling alright [20:52] I find it does the job so maybe I wont fiddle to much or I could make it worse. [20:53] I have question have you heard of log me in a windows app? [20:56] Neither empathy or pidgin are good choices for irc clients [20:58] Hi handler what do you recommend? [20:59]