[00:20] <_schism_> good evening all
[00:21] <_schism_> is there anyone on that can spare a few minutes to help with a java issue?
[00:21] <zkriesse> i can try
[00:32] <starcraftman> _schism_: I'll warn you, we don't yet remotely fix coffee machines. 11.10 I think maybe. If it's the other java maybe.
[00:33] <zkriesse> lol
[00:34] <zkriesse> starcraftman: ever the joker
[00:36] <starcraftman> zkriesse: never, the joker's a maniac with a scary laugh.  I think mines more of an evil mad scientist one, maybe comical like the brain (a la pinky).
[00:36] <zkriesse> lolz
[00:39] <starcraftman> uh _schism_? You can ask your question, I'm just being late night amusing. We do most kinda questions and I know java too. :)
[00:41] <_schism_> starcraftman, lol sorry about the late reply. my 2 year old decided to swan dive down the stairs
[00:41] <starcraftman> ah ha
[00:41] <zkriesse> oh crap
[00:42] <starcraftman> and ya, owie ,hope ok.
[00:42]  * starcraftman learned from friends doesn't need kids.
[00:42] <_schism_> anyway I have the .18 java on my system and of course I need the .22 to play minecraft and I have googled and downloaded and installed to no avail.  can someone point me to where I need to be?
[00:42] <_schism_> starcraftman, yeah she is tough
[00:43] <starcraftman> _schism_: what version ubuntu ya running?
[00:43] <starcraftman> latest package should be past 18 I think.
[00:44] <_schism_> 10.04 ubdated to it on 10-10 :)  I am fairly new to nix so wanna stay with a lts.
[00:44] <starcraftman> hmmm, 10.10 java6 package is .22
[00:45] <starcraftman> _schism_: open terminal and type in: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-jre sun-java6-sdk
[00:45] <_schism_> I dunno and I have even downloaded it from the java site and tried to install it and no love
[00:45] <starcraftman> that should be all you need.
[00:45] <_schism_> starcraftman, yeah I did the apt thing as well :(
[00:46] <_schism_> schism@schismlaptop:~$ sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-jre sun-java6-sdk
[00:46] <_schism_> [sudo] password for schism:
[00:46] <_schism_> Reading package lists... Done
[00:46] <_schism_> Building dependency tree
[00:46] <_schism_> Reading state information... Done
[00:46] <_schism_> sun-java6-plugin is already the newest version.
[00:46] <starcraftman> _schism_: do you have those packages installed? There are several versions of jav.
[00:46] <_schism_> sun-java6-jre is already the newest version.
[00:46] <_schism_> E: Couldn't find package sun-java6-sdk
[00:46] <starcraftman> hmmm
[00:47] <_schism_> schism@schismlaptop:~$ java -version
[00:47] <_schism_> java version "1.6.0_22"
[00:47] <_schism_> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_22-b04)
[00:47] <_schism_> Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 17.1-b03, mixed mode)
[00:47] <_schism_> now its showing .22 wtf and minecraft and java.com says I am on .18
[00:48] <starcraftman> _schism_: you are using the correct version though.
[00:48] <starcraftman> _schism_: I don't know the means the site checks, java -version doesn't usually lie.
[00:48] <_schism_> hmmmmm
[00:48] <_schism_> I cant win
[00:49] <starcraftman> _schism_: minecraft still doesn't work?
[00:49] <starcraftman> _schism_: try > sudo update-alternatives --config java
[00:50] <starcraftman> Select the number of the version with sun java6 in the line.
[00:51] <_schism_> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5008250/java-version.png
[00:52] <starcraftman> _schism_: use this site for future times you want to return outputs of terminal btw, prevents channel flooding (new lines are paresed as enter).
[00:53] <_schism_> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5008250/java-cli-version.png
[00:53] <_schism_> that is the cli output. which one is it?
[00:54] <starcraftman> _schism_: The cli indicates your using the right jre, but the plugin for firefox maybe cofnused?
[00:55] <_schism_> didnt think of that. but then again chrome does the same thing. hmmmmm
[00:55] <starcraftman> _schism_: return in pastebin the output of this > aptitude search openjdk
[00:56] <_schism_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/522981/
[00:58] <_schism_> and you are so much better than google btw starcraftman
[00:59] <starcraftman> _schism_: I shall take that as a compliment.
[00:59] <starcraftman> _schism_: maybe one day google will hire me and I can make em better! :p
[00:59] <_schism_> lol it was a compliment
[01:03] <starcraftman> hmmm, quite strange huh, if you do aptitude search java6-plugin, it listed as installed?
[01:07] <_schism_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/522984/
[01:09] <_schism_> looking at the fire fox add ons I see java console extension 1.6.0_0.2 maybe that will help?
[01:11] <starcraftman> _schism_: naw, under addons page, go to plugins tab, you should see IcedTea plugin.
[01:12] <starcraftman> mine says 6b20, what's yours?
[01:13] <_schism_> 6b18 and a bunch more
[01:13] <starcraftman> hmmmm, interesting.
[01:14] <_schism_> want a screen of it for all the numbers?
[01:15] <starcraftman> _schism_: naw, aptitude show icedtea6-plugin
[01:15] <starcraftman> that say 20 or 18?
[01:16] <starcraftman> show icedtea6-plugin | grep 'Version:' < cleaner.
[01:17] <_schism_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/522990/
[01:17] <_schism_> ooopsss
[01:18] <starcraftman> well that seems to be the issue, weird, my meerkat repos have 20.
[01:18] <_schism_> cant grep it for some reason.
[01:18] <starcraftman> _schism_: I forgot aptitude on the front, hehe.
[01:18] <starcraftman> it does say 18 though
[01:19] <_schism_> yeah I did aptitude
[01:20] <starcraftman> _schism_: pastebin me your sources file pls, from /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:22] <_schism_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/522995/
[01:23] <starcraftman> _schism_: didn't you say you upgraded to meerkat?
[01:24] <starcraftman> your main repos point to lucid.
[01:24] <_schism_> no 10.04 not 10.10
[01:24] <starcraftman> oh
[01:26] <Cheri703> _schism_: can you completely uninstall java and then reinstall it?
[01:26] <Cheri703> vs trying to upgrade?
[01:26] <Cheri703> remove ALL java related things, then reinstall...perhaps?
[01:27] <starcraftman> _schism_: can you try reinstalling plugin maybe? Shut down firefox and then: sudo apt-get purge icedtea6-plugin && sudo apt-get install icedtea6-plugin
[01:27] <starcraftman> Cheri703: don't think that's quite required, locally he's pointing correctly, see config response above.
[01:27] <_schism_> sure didnt think of that and didnt see it online
[01:27] <starcraftman> Just seems to be plugin.
[01:27] <Cheri703> kk
[01:27] <Cheri703> then do it with plugin :)
[01:28] <_schism_> and a question I normaly use aptitude is it interchangeable with apt?
[01:28] <starcraftman> _schism_: can always try the whole plugin after, there are several versions though, if you intend on a clean purge be sure to remove all the openjdk, sun-java6 and icedtea packages.
[01:28] <starcraftman> _schism_: not entirely, but for install/remove it does same, searching and afew other things are different.
[01:29] <_schism_> ok did the apt things time to reload firefox and see what happens
[01:30] <starcraftman> _schism_: I'll quote ya on "apt things" next time I hold a session :)
[01:30] <_schism_> lol
[01:30] <_schism_> and nope still showing 18
[01:32] <starcraftman> _schism_: hmmm, guess nuclear it is. Can you revert anything you did to install manually jre from sun and then uninstall all openjdk, sun-java6 and icedtea packages.
 maybe I will have to reinstall windows......
[01:33] <_schism_> not!
[01:33] <starcraftman> Then only reinstall sun-java6-plugin and sun-java6-jre
[01:33] <_schism_> ummm if I knew how I would
[01:34] <starcraftman> _schism_: right right, one sec, lemme right that for ya....
[01:34] <_schism_>  is it just open synaptic and remove everything java?
[01:34] <_schism_> lol I love being clueless
[01:34] <starcraftman> _schism_: that should work too.
[01:35] <starcraftman> _schism_: and your not clueless, you found IRC :)
[01:35] <_schism_> lol dude I used irc when gopher was king.  I am clueless and old :)
[01:37] <_schism_> oh wow the java search brings up all kinds of pages.  what should I use to narrow it down?
[01:37] <starcraftman> _schism_: Run this command : sudo aptitude purge openjdk-6-* sun-java6-* ia32-sun-java6-bin icedtea*sudo aptitude purge openjdk-6-* sun-java6-* ia32-sun-java6-bin icedtea* && sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[01:38] <starcraftman> That should eliminate all java packages and reinstall just the official build.
[01:38] <_schism_> okie dokie
[01:38] <_schism_> sudo aptitude purge openjdk-6-* sun-java6-* ia32-sun-java6-bin icedtea*sudo aptitude purge openjdk-6-* sun-java6-* ia32-sun-java6-bin icedtea* && sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[01:38] <_schism_> doh focus
[01:38] <starcraftman> if there's a warning tell me. Don't proceed if it removes any core gnome files, or else pastebin related. Some packages are tied.
[01:39] <_schism_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/522998/   looks like errors but I am not sure
[01:40] <starcraftman> crap, aptitude doesn't support wildcard * ? :/
[01:40] <Cheri703> try apt?
[01:41] <_schism_> do the same with apt-get maybe?
[01:41] <starcraftman> aye, pretty basic feature to be lacking.
[01:41] <starcraftman> just swap aptitude for apt-get.
[01:41] <_schism_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/523000/
[01:41] <_schism_> :(
[01:42] <_schism_> guess I will have to give up <sniff><sniff>
[01:43] <starcraftman> _schism_: naw, remove after the &&  regex got confused.
[01:43] <starcraftman> so run: sudo aptitude purge openjdk-6-* sun-java6-* ia32-sun-java6-bin icedtea*sudo apt-get purge openjdk-6-* sun-java6-* ia32-sun-java6-bin icedtea*
[01:43] <_schism_> then do it again with install instead of purge?
[01:43] <starcraftman> then: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin ia32-sun-java6-bin
[01:44] <starcraftman> those are the only needed packages far as I know.
[01:44] <_schism_> gah doing it again
[01:44] <_schism_> faiked
[01:44] <_schism_> failed even
[01:45] <_schism_> apt-get remove instead of purge maybe?
[01:45]  * starcraftman must be getting tired.
[01:46] <starcraftman> guess so.
[01:46]  * starcraftman now thoroughly wants to whack java.
[01:46] <_schism_> gah no dice :(
[01:46] <_schism_> guess I will just deal with synauptic
[01:47] <starcraftman> well I gotta go anyhow, lil late, Cheri703 maybe ya can continue? Or someone else.
[01:47] <Cheri703> I will do what I can...
[01:47] <Cheri703> I'm not super familiar with it
[01:47] <_schism_> its not that big of a deal if no one can
[01:48] <starcraftman> _schism_: I guess, select the the packages that match the regex of the apt-line for removal then reinstall latter, all the java6 ones except db/fonts.
[01:18] <frankcox777> hello all-
[01:19] <frankcox777> is there such an animal as an ext4 filereader for windows?
[01:20] <zkriesse_> Probably not
[01:20] <frankcox777> figures seeing I choose to mount xubuntu on ext4
[01:21] <frankcox777> I wish I could I could drom winders altogether but aome people have yet to see the light
[01:23] <frankcox777> so far 10.10 has worked perfectly, gave me a hard time partitioning at first but it runs well now
[01:24] <frankcox777> I suppose I could use fat32 for documents
[01:27] <Cheri703> frankcox777: desktop or laptop?
[01:32] <frankcox777> desktop
[01:32] <Cheri703> ah, ok
[01:32] <Cheri703> easiest way to deal with the different file extensions: pick up an inexpensive hdd, make it ntfs or fat32 and add it to the comp
[01:33] <frankcox777> I just tried to play music and video-spoke to soon, neither worked
[01:33] <Cheri703> I have one hdd for OS and one hdd for storage
[01:33] <frankcox777> That is what I will do-I have 2 drives,probably make one all fat32
[01:34] <Cheri703> it's just WAY easier
[01:34] <Cheri703> and then you can take your documents and pop them into another comp in case of tragedy :)
[01:34] <frankcox777> It seems that or reinstall to ext3
[01:34] <frankcox777> too much trouble
[01:34] <Cheri703> yeah
[01:35] <frankcox777> irritating they did not put the gstreamer plugins into xubuntu-sound was one reason I finally decided to let 9:10 go
[01:35] <Cheri703> :/
[01:36] <zkriesse_> Xubuntu is too damn slow
[01:37] <frankcox777> what are you using?
[01:39] <zkriesse_> Me?
[01:39] <frankcox777> y
[01:39] <zkriesse_> Windows right now...gaming and because of school(college)
[01:41] <frankcox777> why are you at ubuntu forum? If gaming is a big deal to you Linux is not what you need
[01:41] <frankcox777> My install is faster than windows was on the same machine
[01:43] <zkriesse_> Oh I know
[01:44] <zkriesse_> I go between the two
[01:44] <frankcox777> oh
[01:44] <zkriesse_> Gaming isn't huge
[01:44] <zkriesse_> Mainly due to school
[01:44] <frankcox777> what do have to have windows for at school?
[01:45] <zkriesse_> Certain programs I have to use require ms
[01:45] <zkriesse_> College dude
[01:45] <zkriesse_> Gtg
[01:45] <frankcox777> guess he never heard of SoftMaker
[01:57] <frankcox777> anyone get the sound working in xubuntu 10.10? I thought they would have added oss
[02:14] <frankcox777> anyone got the sound working in xubuntu 10.10?
[02:36] <jledbetter> frankcox777, Might want to try in #xubuntu
[02:41] <frankcox777> thanks jledbetter
[02:42] <jledbetter> frankcox777, You're welcome
[04:47] <matthew_> Hello
[06:14] <geekosopher> good morning all... lovely sunday!
[06:15] <Cheri703> hello
[06:15] <geekosopher> hi :)
[06:15] <Cheri703> how are you?
[06:16] <geekosopher> great
[06:16] <geekosopher> and how are you?
[06:17] <Cheri703> doing alright :)
[06:18] <geekosopher> I am looking to do something this morning... anybody need extra hands?
[06:20] <geekosopher> oops! that question was meant for the team channel :)
[07:19] <aluex> hi
[07:19] <aluex> i wanna to change my login window
[07:19] <aluex> and i've downloaded some themes
[07:19] <aluex> but i don't know how to configure it
[07:20] <aluex> need help~
[07:27] <bioterror> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-gdm-gnome-display-manager-theme-in-ubuntu.html this is how it used to be
[07:27] <bioterror> nowdays you dont have that kind of selection, right?
[07:28] <aluex> what selection?
[07:32] <aluex> there is no "Login Window" entry in my Administration menu..
[07:32] <aluex> Just Login Screen
[07:33] <bioterror> yeah
[07:33] <bioterror> that's what I was remembering
[07:33] <aluex> ehmmm
[07:37] <bioterror> aluex, http://www.hackourlives.com/change-gdm-background-theme-in-ubuntu-10-10-maverick/
[07:38] <aluex> oh,.but , is gdm-theme no longer available?
[07:38] <aluex> i mean... not simply changing backgrounds
[07:48] <aluex> bioterror, poke
[07:48] <bioterror> hop
[07:50] <aluex> bioterror, ?
[07:51] <bioterror> well, around 10.04 this possibility was removed
[07:53] <aluex> bioterror, ohh. Thank you ~
[07:53] <aluex> :)
[08:53] <Daniel0108> hi :D
[08:54] <hobgoblin> morning Daniel0108
[08:54] <hobgoblin> possibly anyway ;)
[08:54] <Daniel0108> morning ;)
[10:29] <jezz_> anyone able to help advise on ubuntu 8.10 an easy way to update xorg ?
[10:31] <friTTe|> sorry bvut that was before my Ubu time
[10:31] <hobgoblin> update it to what?
[10:31] <bioterror> jezz_, update your ubuntu
[10:32] <bioterror> 8.10 is not even LTS
[10:32] <jezz_> yes sure, tryign to update xorg to 1.6
[10:32] <bioterror> what?
[10:33] <bioterror> 8.10 came with Xorg 7.4
[10:34] <Daniel0108> hi
[10:34] <jezz_> sorry, xserver reports version 1.5.2 and want to find out how to upgrade to 1.6
[10:36] <bioterror> I think you mean package xserver-common
[10:36] <jezz_> ok, I see there are differences in the versions for xvideo, xinput, and extension
[10:37] <jezz_> is there a document that has steps on how to do this?
[10:38] <bioterror> I still think you should upgrade your whole ubuntu from 8.10 to something newer like 10.04
[10:38] <jezz_> yep i have 10.10 on my main computer
[10:38] <bioterror> is there a reason why you're still using 8.10?
[10:39] <jezz_> im just trying to get opengl working properly on another system
[10:39] <hobgoblin> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3942 might be of some help
[10:42] <Vetinari> Hey hobgoblin
[10:45] <hobgoblin> hi Vetinari
[10:57] <Vetinari> hobgoblin: You know who I am, right?
[11:05] <un_vampir> I need help .... how can i print fastdraft in ubuntu
[11:08] <un_vampir> super.... i need windows back
[11:09] <hobgoblin> Vetinari: unless you changed then yes:)
[12:08] <shirish> @ all Hi there, i am really stuck up at a point, I am installing RHEL 5.5, Ubuntu 10.10 and windows XP but, am unable to get both RHEL and Ubuntu on the same bootloader, either i get a ubuntu and XP combination, or RHEL and XP comb (GRUB loader) please help
[12:58] <Goog_Josh> does anybody khow why cron can't exec some applications like totem, kaffeine etc.?
[12:58] <Goog_Josh> does anybody khow why cron can't exec some applications like totem, kaffeine etc.?
[14:25] <ggeorgy> hi !!!
[14:27] <Bodsda> hey ggeorgy
[14:32] <ggeorgy> i tryed to burn some dates on dvd-r but not work : error : Failure: SCSI error on write(0,16): [3 73 04] Program memory area update failure  -can you help me???
[14:32] <ggeorgy> please
[14:34] <ggeorgy> i used different cd burner programs :brasero,xfburn but is same error
[14:36] <Bodsda> ggeorgy: what do you mean by 'some dates'?
[14:37] <ggeorgy> music , images ...
[14:40] <Bodsda> ggeorgy: looking around, it seems to be an issue with Lite-On or Samsung drives.
[14:42] <ggeorgy> is missing any drivers?
[14:43] <Bodsda> It looks like it is a firmware issue and is affecting Windows users as well. It is also not specific to any burning software, they will all experience issues. http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/disk-drives/f/3534/t/19330233.aspx    That link gives some advice on firmware updates/downgrades, but the solution may be a different drive
[14:56] <Daniel0108> hi
[14:58] <cprofitt> hello Daniel0108
[15:17] <jerk> can I please know how I can play games on Ubuntu?
[15:18] <jerk> I mean, like on windows......like GTA, call of duty..
[15:18] <pedro3005> *some* will work on wine
[15:19] <Joeb454> jerk: http://appdb.winehq.org - search there to see how they'll work in wine
[15:19] <jerk> pedro3005: I have wine.....do I need to install directx or something too?
[15:19] <ggeorgy> exists some cool games for ubuntu
[15:19] <ggeorgy> not need directx
[15:20] <jerk> ggeorgy: will check them out too :) .....meanwhile I need advice on playing windows games
[15:20] <cook_> I think my system is fucked
[15:20] <ggeorgy> ok
[15:20] <cook_> >> /etc/sudoers: syntax error near line 5 <<< >>> /etc/sudoers: syntax error near line 5 <<< >>> /etc/sudoers: syntax error near line 8 <<< >>> /etc/sudoers: syntax error near line 11 <<< >>> /etc/sudoers: syntax error near line 13 <<< >>> /etc/sudoers: syntax error near line 17 <<< sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 5 sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting
[15:20] <jerk> thing is, I installed a pretty basic game, GTA Vice City...except that it hangs when I run it
[15:21] <ggeorgy> if you want play gta try gta san andreas it work
[15:22] <hobgoblin> check the appdb at wine - might be as good as it gets - linux + wine does not = windows in all cases
[15:22] <pedro3005> cook_, paste the contents of /etc/sudoers
[15:22] <hobgoblin> cook_: and mind the language too
[15:32] <aveilleux> !language | cook_
[15:32] <ubot2> cook_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[15:33] <aveilleux> cook_: Were you editing the /etc/sudoers file manually? If so, why?
[15:33] <jerk> !OPENGL
[15:33] <ubot2> Factoid 'OPENGL' not found
[15:34] <jerk> !OpenGL
[15:34] <ubot2> Factoid 'OpenGL' not found
[15:34] <jerk> dammm
[15:34] <aveilleux> jerk, ubot2 isn't a good substitute for just asking a question.
[15:34] <jerk> thought OpenGL was like directx for windows
[15:34] <aveilleux> jerk, No. It's a different 3D system.
[15:34] <jerk> okay....what exactky is it?
[15:35] <aveilleux> jerk: I... suppose you can think of it as DirectX, but it goes about the rendering process in a completely different manner,
[15:35] <aveilleux> jerk: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL
[15:35] <hobgoblin> jerk: did you go and look at the appdb?
[15:35] <jerk> does that affeect gameplay?
[15:35] <jerk> was trying to do that, hobgoblin
[15:36] <jerk> and it's nice to see you again
[15:36] <aveilleux> jerk: Yes, translation from DirectX to OpenGL always affects performance.
[15:36] <jerk> :p
[15:36] <hobgoblin> jerk: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1369 check the did it run bit
[15:36] <aveilleux> jerk: Most games support OpenGL mode, in my experience.
[15:36] <hobgoblin> jerk have you seen me before then? I'm old - I forget things lol
[15:38] <jerk> hobgoblin: yep, you recommended not using wubi to install ubuntu :p
[15:38] <hobgoblin> aah - sounds like something I would say :)
[15:38] <aveilleux> jerk: Most older games (before 2006) will run just fine on WINE. Starcraft II is a notable exception, since it runs fine under WINE without modification.
[15:39] <jerk> aveilleux: is it something I need to install or is it preinstalled? [using 10.04]
[15:39] <hobgoblin> vice city appears to be oen which works fine so long as you deal with the second cd or it hangs
[15:39] <hobgoblin> jerk: wine is not a default install
[15:39] <jerk> hobgoblin: I wrecked my ROM over a bad dvd of ubuntu....so had to use a pendrive
[15:39] <aveilleux> jerk, WINE is a separate package that you need to install.
[15:40] <jerk> no no, I meant OpenGL
[15:40] <aveilleux> jerk: You can't wreck ROM *eyebrowraise*
[15:40] <jerk> I've got wine all right
[15:40] <aveilleux> jerk: It comes preinstalled.
[15:40] <aveilleux> jerk: Most modern OSs (except that one from Redmond, of course) ship with it.
[15:40] <jerk> aveilleux: looks like I am pioneer then :p
[15:41] <aveilleux> jerk: ...ROM can't be modified... Read-Only Memory
[15:41] <jerk> I'm gonna give it another try, after reading the page hobgoblin gave
[15:42] <jerk> aveilleux: errr....I use computer lingo pretty shoddily....guess I meant my DVD drive
[15:42] <aveilleux> jerk: That makes more sense.
[15:43] <jerk> eh hehehehe
[15:44] <jerk> okay, I'll BRB....doing some testing
[15:44] <jerk> will post my results on testing Vice City
[15:45] <aveilleux> I feel weird talking to someone named "jerk". I always feel like I'm yelling at them.
[15:46] <hobgoblin> lol
[15:47] <hobgoblin> could be worse - but then I guess we would have to kick them for inappropriate nick's :)
[15:49] <cprofitt> no kikcing
[15:49] <cprofitt> but perhaps a PM to ask about their nick...
[15:49] <cprofitt> it could be their initials
[15:50] <hobgoblin> cprofitt: not talking about jerk - but it COULD be worse ...
[15:50] <hobgoblin> and it could also be a foody - jerk chicken
[15:50] <cprofitt> hobgoblin: I understand, but unless you feel very strongly there is malicous intent it would always be best to PM them
[15:51] <cprofitt> and discuss the issue
[15:51] <cprofitt> I know you know that elfy
[15:52] <hobgoblin> cprofitt: you misunderstand - if the nick was that bad a PM would likely make no difference at all :)
[15:52] <cprofitt> hobgoblin: I do understand -- there are many possible reasons for bad nicks and with culture and language issues a PM is still the best option
[15:53] <cprofitt> even if it makes no difference in 99% of the cases - for the 1% it does I think it is worth the extra few seconds to few minutes
[16:06] <hobgoblin> wb jezz_
[16:06] <hobgoblin> whoops
[16:06] <hobgoblin> wb jerk :)
[16:13] <phillw> hobgoblin: can you recall what the part of synaptic package manager is that does the 'quick search' part, as we do not use it by default on lubuntu.
[16:13] <phillw> I did see it on the forum, but it was quite a while back and I've slept since then and lost a few more brain cells :D
[16:14] <jerk> aww
[16:14] <jerk> thanks hobgoblin
[16:14] <hobgoblin> phillw: I am not at all sure
[16:14] <bioterror> phillw, apt-cache search ;)
[16:15] <jerk> bad experiences with sound drivers man
[16:15] <jerk> I've got gigabyte AM chipset and can't get linux drivers for it
[16:15] <jerk> sound drivers I mean
[16:18] <cprofitt> jerk: do you know what model of sound card?
[16:29] <ggeorgy> i try to conect a cellphone [usb] but not work any ideas?
[16:30] <ggeorgy> please
[16:30] <AbhiJit> ggeorgy, try using wammu/gammu
[16:31] <Cheri703> what kind of phone ggeorgy
[16:31] <Cheri703> ?
[16:31] <jerk> cprofitt: it's a built in card
[16:31] <jerk> in the chipset
[16:31] <ggeorgy> LG
[16:32] <Cheri703> is it just a general lg phone or android or?
[16:32] <cprofitt> jerk: do you know how to do an lspci to get the details on the card
[16:32] <ggeorgy> a simple lg phone
[16:32] <cprofitt> different mother board manufacturers can change the audio solution used
[16:32] <bioterror> I bet you canc hoose from the phone do you want to use pc suite or mass storage mode
[16:33] <Cheri703> ok, one thing I ran into in the past was to restart the comp with the phone connected and it's more likely to recognize it...but I dunno about your specific phone
[16:34] <ggeorgy> i try the comand lsusb
[16:34] <ggeorgy>  in the terminal
[16:34] <ggeorgy> and
[16:35] <ggeorgy> Bus 002 Device 005: ID 1004:6000 LG Electronics, Inc. VX4400/VX6000 Cellphone
[16:35] <ggeorgy> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[16:35] <ggeorgy> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0ac8:3450 Z-Star Microelectronics Corp.
[16:35] <ggeorgy> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[16:35] <ggeorgy> gheorghe@gheorghe-M61SME-S2L:~$ Bus 002 Device 005: ID 1004:6000 LG Electronics,
[16:35] <ggeorgy> i try to restart computer now and will be back
[16:36]  * hobgoblin thinks it is seen as a storage device
[16:37] <hobgoblin> depends what they want it for I suspect
[16:38] <ggeorgy> i restarted the computer but not work
[16:39] <ggeorgy> any ideas???
[16:39] <ggeorgy> please
[16:40] <hobgoblin> ggeorgy: what is it you are actually trying to do with it? might make a difference here
[16:41] <ggeorgy> i want to copy some from phone to comp.
[16:41] <hobgoblin> ggeorgy:  and what model is it ?
[16:41] <ggeorgy> from the phone's memory card
[16:42] <ggeorgy> i dont know
[16:42] <nlsthzn> If I have created a PGP key, uploaded it to the key server... then re-installed Ubuntu is it possible to import the key again from the key server or is there another why?
[16:43] <ggeorgy> i think it recognize the phone Bus 002 Device 002: ID 1004:6000 LG Electronics, Inc. VX4400/VX6000 Cellphone but how mount it
[16:44] <ggeorgy> is a lg u300c
[16:44] <ggeorgy> now can help me???
[16:45] <bioterror> ggeorgy, when you plug the usb cable, does it ask wheter to use storage mode or pc suite mode?
[16:46] <ggeorgy> the phone menu appear-conectivity-dial up network -usb activate
[16:47] <nhandler> nlsthzn: You upload your public key to the key server, not your private key. If you didn't back up your private key and don't have a revocation certificate, there isn't much you can do other than creating a new key
[16:49] <ggeorgy> the phone had not a pc suite mode
[16:49] <nlsthzn> nhandler: Thank you so much... this is what I could gather from what I have read... that really sucks, I have (in my ignorance) created and now made useless about two or three keys this way with re-installations... does a clean up ever occur (there must be many unused and useless keys by now)
[16:50] <nhandler> ggeorgy: Maybe try doing it over bluetooth
[16:50] <nhandler> nlsthzn: I don't think so. Basically, when you create your new key, generate a revocation certificate and then backup the certificate and your private key somewhere safe
[16:51] <nlsthzn> nhandler: Will do, thanks!
[16:51] <ggeorgy> what?
[16:51] <nhandler> /34/34
[16:51] <ggeorgy> over bluetooth?
[16:52] <nhandler> ggeorgy: If your computer supports bluetooth (or if you have a bluetooth adapter), you can connect your phone to your computer to send/receive files
[16:52] <ggeorgy> i know but i haven't a blue.adapter
[16:53] <ggeorgy> i want conect from usb
[16:55] <ggeorgy> need any driver??
[16:56] <ggeorgy> ???????????????? :(
[16:58] <ggeorgy> you sayd about any program who??
[16:59] <ggeorgy> what programs needs??
[17:02] <nhandler> ggeorgy: I can't help you much with USB. Your phone might not allow it and I had several problems doing that. If you do decide to purchase a bluetooth adapter, the default bluetooth app (in the top panel by default) will allow you to interact with your phone
[17:02] <Cheri703> nhandler: not all phones support bluetooth file transfer
[17:02] <Cheri703> ggeorgy: if the info you're wanting is on the sd card, then perhaps a card reader would be the easiest answer? you can usually get them for under $10
[17:03] <nhandler> Cheri703: True, but for those that do, it is much easier than messing with USB
[17:04] <ggeorgy> but it recognize phone
[17:06] <ggeorgy> i try gmobilemedia
[17:06] <Cheri703> ggeorgy: what model is the phone?
[17:06] <Cheri703> specifically
[17:07] <AbhiJit> i suggested you to try gammu ggeorgy
[17:07] <ggeorgy> ok
[17:10] <ggeorgy> not work
[17:11] <ggeorgy> gammu is gmobilemedia
[17:13] <ggeorgy> the phone not appera in system-admin-disk utility
[17:15] <Cheri703> ggeorgy: I will ask again: what is the specific phone model?
[17:16] <ggeorgy> lg u300c
[17:16] <cprofitt> jerk: do you know how to get the model using lspci?
[17:17] <cprofitt> ggeorgy: does it support bluetooth?
[17:17] <ggeorgy> yes
[17:17] <cprofitt> are you trying to transfer files?
[17:18] <ggeorgy> no
[17:18] <ggeorgy> yes from usb
[17:19] <cprofitt> well usb will depend on how the storage is presented
[17:19] <cprofitt> so bluetooth might work even though usb does not
[17:20] <ggeorgy> but i want usb
[17:20] <ggeorgy> i havent blue adapter
[17:20] <Cheri703> is it the "lg shine"?
[17:20] <Cheri703> when you plug in the USB, what does it say on the phone?
[17:21] <ggeorgy> the phone say nothing
[17:22] <ggeorgy> i found USBPROG on software center can this help me??
[17:22] <Cheri703> ggeorgy: does it have an SD card?
[17:22] <ggeorgy> yes
[17:22] <Cheri703> also, out of curiosity, what is your native language?
[17:22] <ggeorgy> english
[17:23] <Cheri703> ok, can you get an inexpensive sd card reader? they can be found easily at most stores
[17:23] <Cheri703> ok
[17:24] <Cheri703> that is likely the easiest/most reliable way to do this
[17:24] <Cheri703> this is the phone? http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_u300-1628.php
[17:24] <ggeorgy> i have a card adapter but my comp has not a port for memory card adapter
[17:24] <ggeorgy> yes
[17:25] <Cheri703> ok, frankly, it's VERY VERY unlikely that a phone from 2006 is going to connect this way
[17:25] <Cheri703> phones back then needed very specific drivers and programs
[17:26] <Cheri703> you need something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-MobileMate-Plus-Memory-Reader/dp/B000Q3IUV2
[17:26] <Cheri703> there are cheaper ones
[17:26] <ggeorgy> exist fot ubuntu?
[17:26] <Cheri703> yes, it turns the sd card into a flash drive basically
[17:27] <Cheri703> are you in the US?
[17:27] <nlsthzn> Cheri703: :) A phone from 2006 isn't that old, is it?
[17:27] <ggeorgy> yes but...
[17:27] <Cheri703> technology wise, yes :) as far as being able to connect to the computer, (from what I know) they didn't have the universal storage options like now
[17:27] <Cheri703> did you see that link nlsthzn?
[17:27] <Cheri703> it's an OLD style phone, probably one of the "free with contract" types
[17:32] <ggeorgy> ok thanks for help!! good night!!!
[17:33] <nlsthzn> Cheri703: Sorry, no... stuck at work so a bit to busy to get into to much online currently (thats why I stayed out of this round :D)
[17:33] <Cheri703> understandable :) it's an old style flip phone
[20:42] <marmalade1> Hello
[20:45]  * seidos waves @ marmalade1 
[20:47] <marmalade1> hello to you seidos
[20:48] <seidos> marmalade1, feeling well?
[20:48] <marmalade1> Yes very good thanks and yourself?
[20:50] <marmalade1> I can only get this working with pidgin but not with empathy for some reason
[20:51] <seidos> marmalade1, i was able to get irc working with empathy, but that was only for a little while
[20:51] <seidos> marmalade1, i am feeling alright
[20:52] <marmalade1> I find it does the job so maybe I wont fiddle to much or I could make it worse.
[20:53] <marmalade1> I have question have you heard of log me in a windows app?
[20:56] <nhandler> Neither empathy or pidgin are good choices for irc clients
[20:58] <marmalade1> Hi handler what do you recommend?
[20:59] <marmalade1> sorry nhandler
[20:59] <nhandler> marmalade1: irssi+screen. Or if you want a GUI client, xchat isn't too bad. Even webchat.freenode.net is better than those clients
[21:02] <nlsthzn> +1 for IRC... I lasted all of 5 minutes using Empathy :)
[21:02] <marmalade1> Thank you for your help. Sorry just realised what the time is I have to log off.
[21:04] <nlsthzn> I meant +1 for XChat (not IRC lol)
[21:17] <UndiFineD> nlsthzn, if you're truly 1337 use telnet
[21:18] <UndiFineD> there actually was a session at UDS regarding empathy IRC and what improvements could be made
[21:19] <UndiFineD> which I found somewhat disappointing as the referred to freenodes webchat all the time
[21:36] <nlsthzn> UndiFineD: I am currently using freenode webchat (at work, behind firewalls etc.) and it sucks, no spell checking QQ
[21:49] <sebsebseb> Hi
[22:31] <duanedesign>  /9
[22:34] <starcraftman> duanedesign: 9 have a special meaning?
[22:55] <duanedesign> starcraftman: that is the #ubuntuone channel in my IRC Client
[22:55] <starcraftman> duanedesign: ah, I see.
[23:28] <glaucous> Do someone have the /etc/apt/sources.list for Maverick available? Mine got corrupted.
[23:29] <nlsthzn> Sucks being stuck at work on Windows :(
[23:29] <UndiFineD> glaucous,
[23:30] <UndiFineD> http://paste.ubuntu.com/523547/
[23:31] <UndiFineD> that is quite complete, mine has more ppas
[23:31] <glaucous> UndiFineD, thanks, hopefully it works. Trying it.
[23:33] <glaucous> UndiFineD, looks like its working, thank you
[23:35] <brennydoogles> How's life all?
[23:35] <brennydoogles> tronyx,
[23:35] <nlsthzn> brennydoogles: Outstanding :D ,and yours?
[23:35] <brennydoogles> Pretty Ok nlsthzn !
[23:36] <brennydoogles> Just trying to fix my grub2
[23:36] <brennydoogles> lol
[23:36] <brennydoogles> It lost Windows 7
[23:36] <nlsthzn> brennydoogles: I think it might be on purpose ;)
[23:36] <brennydoogles> lol
[23:36] <brennydoogles> Probably
[23:37] <brennydoogles> Glad to have Linux back though
[23:37] <brennydoogles> I've had the new laptop for about 3 weeks, and just now had a chance to install
[23:43] <nlsthzn> sucks that you have to mess with GRUB :/ Revenge of the Linux
[23:45] <brennydoogles> yes...
[23:45] <brennydoogles> any advice?
[23:46] <Cheri703> no idea if this will fix it, but try running update-grub ? I think that's the command...
[23:47] <nlsthzn> brennydoogles: Last time I had to mess with GRUB it was not GRUB2 which I have heard is a completely different beast all together... sorry
[23:47] <brennydoogles> It is indeed
[23:48] <brennydoogles> messing with grub legacy was a piece of cake
[23:54] <brennydoogles> well kids, I'm going to reboot to see how badly I've borked everything
[23:54] <brennydoogles> Wish me luck!