[06:13] <geekosopher> good morning
[11:55] <kcj> I think gnome-power-manager has a memory leek.
[11:55] <kcj> In 10.10
[12:05] <kcj> leak*
[12:21] <RJWhite> I have just set up a Launchpad account, added my PGP and SSH keys.  I'm attempting to check out the 'hello' package and I'm getting the following error: bzr: ERROR: Connection error: while sending CONNECT xmlrpc.edge.launchpad.net:443: [Errno 111] Connection refused.  Do I need to be accepeted on the BugSquad team? My membership approval is pending.
[12:22] <penguin42> I don't think you need perms to check most out
[16:44] <AbhiJit> hi
[16:44] <AbhiJit> where can i see the bug for linux kernel?
[16:44] <AbhiJit> hi simar
[16:44] <simar> hi AbhiJit
[16:45] <simar> AbhiJit, linux
[16:45] <yofel> AbhiJit: all kernel bugs would be https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux
[16:45] <simar> AbhiJit, let me tell you one and then you can open all bugs..
[16:45] <yofel> *all bugs against the ubuntu kernel package
[16:46] <simar> AbhiJit,  yofel did the job
[16:46] <yofel> would be nice to have a page that lists all possible kernel bugs :P
[16:46] <AbhiJit> yofel, thank you. this is helpful. but 'linux' kernel will be more appropriate. not the ubuntu adopted one
[16:47] <AbhiJit> simar, hmm
[16:47] <yofel> well, the launchpad bug listing is the ubuntu package, I think http://bugzilla.kernel.org was the upstream one
[16:47] <AbhiJit> yofel, yah thats. thankyou
[17:36] <dlbike76> Hi.  Is anyone from bugcontrol on?
[17:38] <yofel> dlbike76: yes
[17:39] <dlbike76> yofel:  So I'm looking at bug 669134 and wondering if enough info is in the report to determine whether it's a freeze issue or a crash.
[17:39] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 669134 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Xorg freeze (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/669134
[17:47] <yofel> dlbike76: can't help you there I fear, I don't know too much about X, someone else or the guys in #ubuntu-x might be able to help you more (there's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Freeze too)
[17:47] <yofel> it would have been nice if the report had said when it froze though :/
[17:47] <yofel> also refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Triaging
[19:06] <njin> hello, I've reproduced this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/668926 it works in i.e. and not in firefox or chromium. can someone help me on assigning package?
[19:07] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 668926 in ubuntu "can't resolve domain names starting with a dash (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New]
[19:16] <njin> charlie-tca: around ?
[19:17] <charlie-tca> njin: around but trying to recover from UDS
[19:18] <palhmbs> njin, thats a reproducable bug - wonder what causes it.... - even opera has problems with the '-'
[19:19] <njin> palhmbs: bot opera in linux or in windows ?
[19:19] <njin> *but
[19:19] <njin> i try i n VB
[19:19] <palhmbs> opera linux -
[19:20] <palhmbs> I'm gonna test minefield - (firefox beta) - and google-chrome --- all linux --- I run a xubuntu 10.10 box
[19:20] <palhmbs> with icewm as my main window manager
[19:23] <palhmbs> must be something to do with name resolution
[19:27] <njin> palhmbs: it works in FF under windows then is something related to some lib in linux
[19:28] <palhmbs> njin, yep - that's what I'm thinking too
[19:28] <palhmbs> we need to identify where the bug originates - which package
[19:29] <njin> charlie-tca: sorry if disturb, i'm looking for an expert in browsing for a bug in a linux library that not resolve names that start with dash
[19:29] <charlie-tca> ouch
[19:29] <njin> *ubuntu library
[19:30] <charlie-tca> not me. I have problems getting them to work without a dash
[19:30] <njin> LOL
[19:30] <njin> charlie: who
[19:30] <charlie-tca> not sure
[19:30] <palhmbs> a network pro - find the right channel -
[19:31] <palhmbs> start with linux and ask everybody there to try the site
[19:31] <charlie-tca> maybe asac
[19:31] <palhmbs> then we will see whether it a linux problem or a ubuntu/debian only problem
[19:33] <yofel> njin: what IP do you get for that IP on windows? (just curious)
[19:34] <yofel> err, *for that domain
[19:35] <palhmbs> http://whois.domaintools.com/-inevitablelament.tumblr.com --- [19:35] <yofel> I wonder if whatever lib is used as DN resolver thinks you're giving it a parameter since it starts with a dash
[19:36] <palhmbs> njin, afaict -- this url is completely invalid - whatever OS you use
[19:36] <yofel> palhmbs: that server is obviously using linux
[19:36] <palhmbs> lol - no doubt
[19:36] <yofel> just look at /usr/local/www/vhosts/www.domaintools.com/htdocs/whois-old/index.php
[19:37] <yofel> hm, 'nslookup \\-inevitablelament.tumblr.com' does give me 174.120.238.130 but that only shows 'not found'
[19:40] <njin> yofel: sorry, heating water problem (with wife under cool water, LOL ;-)))
[19:40] <njin> i run VB again now
[19:40] <yofel> ouch ^^
[19:41] <palhmbs> sounds like people behind proxies on linux get it to work -- someone with a squid proxy got it to work in chromium
[19:43] <njin> yofel: the ip of the site is 174.120.238.130
[19:44] <yofel> ok, then at least nslookup works right
[19:44] <njin> textual browser not work too
[19:45] <palhmbs> wget http://174.120.238.130/ --- HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found -- 2010-11-01 08:44:40 ERROR 404: Not Found.
[19:45] <palhmbs> njin, can you give us other sites for examples?
[19:45] <njin> disabling ipv6 don't solve
[19:45] <palhmbs> with '-' ???
[19:45] <yofel> palhmbs: the IP does give me a not found page, but it gives me a PAGE, not a firefox error
[19:46] <penguin42> palhmbs: A not found might be reasonable, it might be relying on http 1.1 to tell it which site to serve
[20:00] <njin> Firefox and I.E. under windows resolve this, Firefox or Chromium under Ubuntu not resolve, i'm going to install opensuse and fedora to see if they resolve
[20:11] <palhmbs> njin, can we argue whether that domain is a legitimate address?
[20:11] <palhmbs> because according to -- http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc952 ---- The first character must be an alpha character.  The last character must not be  a minus sign or period. !!
[20:12] <palhmbs> This domain IS invalid according to the specifications
[20:13] <palhmbs> Tho - I can verify that your http://-inevitablelament.tumblr.com/ works on my Windows XP machine....
[20:16] <palhmbs> the more recent spec == http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1123 - The syntax of a legal Internet host name was specified in RFC-952 [DNS:4].  One aspect of host name syntax is hereby changed: the restriction on the first character is relaxed to allow either a letter or a digit.  Host software MUST support this more liberal syntax.      Host software MUST handle host names of up to 63 characters and SHOULD handle host names of up to 255 charac
[20:16] <palhmbs> ters.
[20:16] <palhmbs> NO mention of allowing a hyphen
[20:24] <virtuald> underscores in subdomains works on xp too (but not on linux)
[20:28] <palhmbs> so - linux conforms more to the specification
[20:28] <palhmbs> big surprise there
[20:30] <palhmbs> So - what is the broken part? - the OS's DNS resolving mechanism....
[20:30] <yofel> pretty much, probably
[20:33] <njin> Firefox in fedora don't resolve
[20:34] <yofel> micahg: hey, do you by chance know how linux domain resolving is done?
[20:35] <yofel> micahg: for bug 668926
[20:35] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 668926 in ubuntu "can't resolve domain names starting with a dash (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/668926
[20:35] <micahg> yofel: should be a simple DNS lookup
[20:36] <yofel> yeah, we're talking about invalid domain names that Windows resolves fine though (ones starting with a '-')
[20:36] <hggdh> so (it seems) yet another Microsoft extension of a RFC
[20:37] <palhmbs> yep - # nslookup \-inevitablelament.tumblr.com
[20:37] <palhmbs> *** Invalid option: inevitablelament.tumblr.com
[20:37] <yofel> palhmbs: use \\ it works then
[20:41] <yofel> btw, were those UDS decisions? The first change strikes me as a bit odd.. http://blog.launchpad.net/general/new-features-for-bug-supervisors
[20:41] <micahg> yofel: no, we decided on those before UDS
[20:42] <yofel> ah ok, I missed that then
[20:43] <hggdh> yofel: on my opnion, the 3 bugs there make absolute sense
[20:44] <yofel> ack
[22:51] <xelister> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-modeswitch/+bug/637948
[22:51] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 637948 in usb-modeswitch (Ubuntu) "Huawei E169 3G dongle is not detected by Maverick (affects: 3) (heat: 82)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[22:51] <xelister> oh man, does Ubuntu make life harder for G3 modem users
[22:51] <xelister> on 10.04 G3 modems where not detected because of missing usb-modeswitch
[22:51] <xelister> and now in 10.10 G3 modems like E169 do not work at all and I dont see any working workaround
[22:52] <xelister> can we set the prio to high? many G3 users can not at all get network
[22:57] <Nafallo> that's 3G modems, just to stop the confusion...
[23:18] <xelister> right. And other then that, can we set prio?