/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/10/31/#ubuntu-ops.txt

rwwHola. The bug mentioned in /topic #ubuntu+1 was fixed a few days ago, so it can be removed from /topic now.01:03
Flannelrww: 665471?01:06
rwwFlannel: yes01:07
rwwthanks01:08
c1887e21hello01:10
c1887e21Why I can't talk on #Ubuntu?01:10
IdleOnec1887e21: are you getting any error messages?01:18
c1887e21[01:19] == Cannot send to channel: #ubuntu01:19
Seeker`@bansearch c1887e2101:19
ubottuMatch: %*!*@gateway/web/* by jussi in #ubuntu on Oct 04 2010 14:37:31 (ID: 29047)01:19
ubottuMatch: %*!*@gateway/web/* by tsimpson in #kubuntu on Oct 16 2010 19:44:34 (ID: 34144)01:19
ubottuMatch: *!*@gateway/web/*$#ubuntu-proxy-users by ikonia in #ubuntu on Aug 11 2010 22:50:51 (ID: 31338)01:19
ubottuMatch: *!*@gateway/web/*$#ubuntu-proxy-users by ikonia in #ubuntu on Aug 11 2010 22:50:52 (ID: 31339)01:19
ubottuMatch: *!*@gateway/web/*$#ubuntu-proxy-users by Pici in #ubuntu on Aug 20 2010 18:01:04 (ID: 31395)01:19
ubottuMatch: *!*@gateway/web/*$#ubuntu-proxy-users by IdleOne in #ubuntu on Oct 02 2010 15:14:11 (ID: 31763)01:19
c1887e21weird01:20
Seeker`nope01:20
tsimpsonthere is a ban on *!*@193-136-126-33.pub.fct.unl.pt01:20
c1887e21it means i cant chat=01:20
tsimpsonc1887e21: try leaving and rejoining #ubuntu now01:22
c1887e21thanks!01:22
tsimpsonno problem01:22
IdleOnethanks tsimpson01:23
tsimpsonc1887e21: if there's nothing else, you should leave this channel now01:23
c1887e21ok tks !01:24
ubottuFloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (flood (44))01:26
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (flood (50))01:26
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (flood (50))01:26
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (flood (57))01:26
equushas anyone noticed what is going on in #ubuntu-unregged01:38
marienzthanks, now I did01:39
equusgreat thanks01:39
IdleOnemarienz: seems the bots are a little lagged01:40
IdleOnelike 8-10 minutes or so01:41
marienzI know01:42
marienzthat I can't help with01:42
flyguyHi, can you guys please unban me from #ubuntu? I will behave and I have learned my lesson. I also have new medication to help me this04:01
flyguyhi05:39
tonyyarusso@btlogin05:40
tonyyarussoThis apparently was Pici's, two and a half days ago.05:41
* tonyyarusso reads05:41
tonyyarussooh, heh05:42
tonyyarussoflyguy: I'm glad you're wanting to be cooperative about this - that's a great start.  However, I think with this one I'm more comfortable leaving it up to the operator who set the ban for the time being.  Did he give you any indication of a time frame previously?05:44
flyguyI don't recall anything05:45
flyguy=(05:45
tonyyarussoOkay.  Well, looking in my logs it looks like other people talked to you previously, so perhaps now that I've highlighted Pici (twice) he'll be able to contact you with some kind of update when he has a chance (probably asleep atm).05:46
flyguyokay05:47
flyguygood deal05:47
ubottuFloodBotK1 called the ops in #kubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from Kalidarn)05:51
ubottuFloodBotK1 called the ops in #kubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from Seipher)05:56
=== elky is now known as elkybirthday
ubotturww called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic ()08:21
Jordan_Ushuvam in #ubuntu09:16
ikonialooking09:20
ikoniaJordan_U: looks sorted09:22
ubottupsycho_oreos called the ops in #ubuntu (dobak trolling/swearing/flooding)11:55
=== maco2 is now known as maco
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from pluhngz)13:38
=== udslogger is now known as transitlogger
Seeker`any idea who/wat transitlogger is?15:32
transitloggerSeeker`: whois knows :P15:33
Seeker`just wondering why someone/something with the name "logger" is sitting in the channel15:36
Tm_TSeeker`: same reason as with us all15:37
Seeker`Tm_T: huh?15:38
IdleOnetransitlogger: I am guessing they have +o in one of the core channels and the nick is just a nick15:39
IdleOnehello Marcus_Jah15:40
IdleOneHow can we help you?15:40
Marcus_Jahany operator ?15:41
Marcus_Jahme banned for #ubuntu-es for a operator without justification15:41
Marcus_Jahbecause my ip is dynamic15:41
Marcus_Jahy he said15:41
Marcus_Jahthat15:41
Marcus_Jahi am another person15:41
Marcus_Jahyou can remove the ban? please :D15:41
IdleOneMarcus_Jah: for #ubuntu-es you can ask in #ubuntu-irc15:41
IdleOneMarcus_Jah: There is nothing we can do, sorry.15:43
IdleOneMarcus_Jah: the ops in #ubuntu-es-ops said that they already spoke to you.15:44
IdleOne!idle > Marcus_Jah16:11
ubottuMarcus_Jah, please see my private message16:11
Tm_TMarcus_Jah: if you have no further issues to discuss here, I would kindly ask you to part16:16
Mamarok@btlogin17:41
elkybirthdaywhy is it that http://pastebin.com/jbf3RhBt seems so familiar right now?17:50
Seeker`:D17:50
nhandlerSeeker`, Tm_T, IdleOne: As /whois will show, transitlogger is simply apachelogger18:02
Seeker`who is apachelogger?18:02
ikoniakubuntu dev18:02
ikoniait's just his nick18:02
ikonianothing to do with logging, he does have a bot though, I forget it's name18:02
ikoniasomething to do with analysing traffic and reading patterns18:03
macokubotu18:03
ikoniano, there is a different one18:03
macooh?18:03
ikonia(unless he's changed it's name)18:03
macohe waas udslogger all last week18:03
elkybirthdaymaco, o hai, the crocs didn't eated you?18:03
macoi assume transitlogger is a reference to airplanes18:03
ikoniaprobably18:03
macoelkybirthday: no, we didnt even see any. jussi was a sad panda about that.18:03
elkybirthdayAww18:04
macothe kayak-renting-lady's neighbor tried to tell the guys it was because it was too cold out now for the gators and youd have to come when its hot to see them18:04
macoand they were going "it's bloody 30 degrees out!"18:04
elkybirthdaylol18:04
olskolircsmooches all around :-)18:10
olskolirccan i get unbanned please?18:10
olskolircits been forever and i promised id be a good girl18:10
Tm_Tnhandler: thanks, I was already well aware though (:18:16
ubottuFloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)18:45
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)18:45
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)18:45
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)18:45
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (BANLIST FULL, REMOVE SOME BANS)18:48
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (BANLIST FULL, REMOVE SOME BANS)18:48
Picibleh18:48
ikoniaI still don't understand why the floodbots are setting ban forward to -proxy-users18:48
PiciBecause its doing its own open proxy checking separate of what freenode does.18:49
ikoniathat's got to be stopped/got under control, that's filling bans a fair bit18:49
ikoniaor it needs to be worked on with freenode18:50
ikoniaplus it's picking up some false positives18:50
PiciIts not added that many bans.18:50
ikoniabecause I'm clearing them daily18:50
ikoniasometimes more than once daily18:50
ikonia(or at least that's part of wy)18:50
ikoniawhy18:50
elkybirthdayand we still run out of banspace nearly daily18:51
ikoniapici has an agenda item that may resolve that18:51
elkybirthdaycool18:51
Picithat people won't be happy with ;)18:51
ikoniaagreed, me included18:51
ikoniabut it doesn't hurt to talk it out18:52
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (Evi1Coder appears to be abusive - 5.5)18:53
ikoniagood old idory18:53
jpdsWho.18:55
ikoniaidoru18:55
macothe killbot18:55
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (BANLIST FULL, REMOVE SOME BANS)18:55
nhandlerAs a note, since I forgot to mention it in the meeting, there is 1 week remaining to submit nominations for the IRC Council. If you are interested, please send in your nominations asap19:10
PiciWhat do you want me to say? I don't want to discuss thiss w/o Jussi present and he isnt here.19:21
Seeker`I just don't see why jussi has to be there. He just wants to add more complexity to a broken system; If he doesn't turn up to a meeting that has been scheduled for a while to defend silly ideas I can't say it will be much of a loss to the IRC team19:23
Seeker`In the hours I've spent discussing it with people that seem to support the idea, I've only seen one real argument for having seperate "core ops", and that is fatally flawed19:25
PiciSeeker`: The fact of the matter is that it isn't the content of the issue that is at fault here.  I merely wish to make sure that all interested parties are present before addressing it.19:30
Seeker`Pici: I'm just fed up because I neglected other things to come to a meeting which was essentially pointless from my perspective19:31
PiciSeeker`: I'm sorry thats how things turned out.19:36
Seeker`message sent to mailing list regarding core-ops meeting19:36
topyliSeeker`: please try and add meaningful items to the agenda next time19:53
topylii can probably make the meeting next week if it happens19:53
Seeker`topyli: I feel there is a general discussion to be had wrt why this all has to be more complicated than "ops ban bad people, the ircc recruits more ops, listens to appeals"19:55
topylias for council members' presence at the meeting, they were unfortunately unable to reschedule the UDS19:55
Seeker`well, some of the people at UDS made it ;)19:55
topylisome people live on the same continent :)19:56
topyli(i believe jus-si is airborn now)19:56
Seeker`elkybirthday lives on the same continent as florida now?19:57
elkybirthdaySeeker`, temporarily19:57
elkybirthdaySeeker`, well, for one week from now19:57
Seeker`not the best definition of "living"; must closer to "on holiday" :P19:58
elkybirthdayfirst actual holiday since forever really19:58
Seeker`gz :)19:59
ubottuIn ubottu, rww said: !unity =~ s$for more information$and http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/10/31/unity-some-further-clarification-points/ for more information$20:50
guntberthi, do you regard the nick <ubuntu_wtf> ok?20:54
Flannelguntbert: go ahead and ask him to change it20:55
Flannelguntbert: privately, that is.20:55
guntbertFlannel: ok, good idea, thx20:56
jpdsAnd #ubuntu-motu is going downhill.20:57
jpds...fast.20:58
tonyyarussohow so?20:58
jpdstonyyarusso: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/10/31/%23ubuntu-motu.html#t19:4021:00
tonyyarussojpds: well, you have access there, so why not move the badness out of the channel?21:02
jpdsMight not go down well, if I remove a MOTU from the channel21:03
tonyyarussowell you start by asking them to take the bickering elsewhere to stay on topic.  If they don't do that than things can progress as they would in any other channel.21:05
tonyyarussoWe don't refuse to remove Ubuntu members from #ubuntu if they aren't behaving appropriately.  I don't see why it would be any different.21:05
tonyyarussojpds: If it's in the namespace, it follows the CoC, period.  If someone has a problem with that, it can be dealt with a meeting later, but shouldn't inhibit enforcement of our community's guidelines.  Nobody is exempt from the Code of Conduct.21:09
jpdsApparently the IRCC have been sent a message about him.21:09
jpds!ircc | yo ^21:09
ubottuyo ^: The Ubuntu IRC Council is the team governance council for the the Ubuntu IRC channels on the freenode network - For serious inquiries please join #ubuntu-irc-council - See also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil21:09
tonyyarussothat doesn't do what you think it does, clearly :P21:10
jpdsYep.21:10
IdleOneolskolirc:  I have removed your ban. I hope we won't be having any more issues. Please keep in mind the !guidelines and the !codeofcontact.21:24
PiciCan someone suggest to MetaPhaze in -ot that he should be asking his support questions in #ubuntu23:07
PiciHes already in there, but doesn't like the answers that I'm giving him.23:08
IdleOneso who is going to talk to robinetd about his quit message?23:23
IdleOneHe doesn't respond well to me given our history23:23
PiciGreat.  Panarchy in #freenode23:29
PiciSorry Flannel, I should have done that.23:32
PiciGot distracted by other stuff.23:32
FlannelPici: No worries23:34
IdleOneFlannel: thank you.23:35

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