[01:03] <rww> Hola. The bug mentioned in /topic #ubuntu+1 was fixed a few days ago, so it can be removed from /topic now.
[01:06] <Flannel> rww: 665471?
[01:07] <rww> Flannel: yes
[01:08] <rww> thanks
[01:10] <c1887e21> hello
[01:10] <c1887e21> Why I can't talk on #Ubuntu?
[01:18] <IdleOne> c1887e21: are you getting any error messages?
[01:19] <c1887e21> [01:19] == Cannot send to channel: #ubuntu
[01:19] <Seeker`> @bansearch c1887e21
[01:20] <c1887e21> weird
[01:20] <Seeker`> nope
[01:20] <tsimpson> there is a ban on *!*@193-136-126-33.pub.fct.unl.pt
[01:20] <c1887e21> it means i cant chat=
[01:22] <tsimpson> c1887e21: try leaving and rejoining #ubuntu now
[01:22] <c1887e21> thanks!
[01:22] <tsimpson> no problem
[01:23] <IdleOne> thanks tsimpson
[01:23] <tsimpson> c1887e21: if there's nothing else, you should leave this channel now
[01:24] <c1887e21> ok tks !
[01:38] <equus> has anyone noticed what is going on in #ubuntu-unregged
[01:39] <marienz> thanks, now I did
[01:39] <equus> great thanks
[01:40] <IdleOne> marienz: seems the bots are a little lagged
[01:41] <IdleOne> like 8-10 minutes or so
[01:42] <marienz> I know
[01:42] <marienz> that I can't help with
[04:01] <flyguy> Hi, can you guys please unban me from #ubuntu? I will behave and I have learned my lesson. I also have new medication to help me this
[05:39] <flyguy> hi
[05:40] <tonyyarusso> @btlogin
[05:41] <tonyyarusso> This apparently was Pici's, two and a half days ago.
[05:41]  * tonyyarusso reads
[05:42] <tonyyarusso> oh, heh
[05:44] <tonyyarusso> flyguy: I'm glad you're wanting to be cooperative about this - that's a great start.  However, I think with this one I'm more comfortable leaving it up to the operator who set the ban for the time being.  Did he give you any indication of a time frame previously?
[05:45] <flyguy> I don't recall anything
[05:45] <flyguy> =(
[05:46] <tonyyarusso> Okay.  Well, looking in my logs it looks like other people talked to you previously, so perhaps now that I've highlighted Pici (twice) he'll be able to contact you with some kind of update when he has a chance (probably asleep atm).
[05:47] <flyguy> okay
[05:47] <flyguy> good deal
[09:16] <Jordan_U> shuvam in #ubuntu
[09:20] <ikonia> looking
[09:22] <ikonia> Jordan_U: looks sorted
[15:32] <Seeker`> any idea who/wat transitlogger is?
[15:33] <transitlogger> Seeker`: whois knows :P
[15:36] <Seeker`> just wondering why someone/something with the name "logger" is sitting in the channel
[15:37] <Tm_T> Seeker`: same reason as with us all
[15:38] <Seeker`> Tm_T: huh?
[15:39] <IdleOne> transitlogger: I am guessing they have +o in one of the core channels and the nick is just a nick
[15:40] <IdleOne> hello Marcus_Jah
[15:40] <IdleOne> How can we help you?
[15:41] <Marcus_Jah> any operator ?
[15:41] <Marcus_Jah> me banned for #ubuntu-es for a operator without justification
[15:41] <Marcus_Jah> because my ip is dynamic
[15:41] <Marcus_Jah> y he said
[15:41] <Marcus_Jah> that
[15:41] <Marcus_Jah> i am another person
[15:41] <Marcus_Jah> you can remove the ban? please :D
[15:41] <IdleOne> Marcus_Jah: for #ubuntu-es you can ask in #ubuntu-irc
[15:43] <IdleOne> Marcus_Jah: There is nothing we can do, sorry.
[15:44] <IdleOne> Marcus_Jah: the ops in #ubuntu-es-ops said that they already spoke to you.
[16:11] <IdleOne> !idle > Marcus_Jah
[16:16] <Tm_T> Marcus_Jah: if you have no further issues to discuss here, I would kindly ask you to part
[17:41] <Mamarok> @btlogin
[17:50] <elkybirthday> why is it that http://pastebin.com/jbf3RhBt seems so familiar right now?
[17:50] <Seeker`> :D
[18:02] <nhandler> Seeker`, Tm_T, IdleOne: As /whois will show, transitlogger is simply apachelogger
[18:02] <Seeker`> who is apachelogger?
[18:02] <ikonia> kubuntu dev
[18:02] <ikonia> it's just his nick
[18:02] <ikonia> nothing to do with logging, he does have a bot though, I forget it's name
[18:03] <ikonia> something to do with analysing traffic and reading patterns
[18:03] <maco> kubotu
[18:03] <ikonia> no, there is a different one
[18:03] <maco> oh?
[18:03] <ikonia> (unless he's changed it's name)
[18:03] <maco> he waas udslogger all last week
[18:03] <elkybirthday> maco, o hai, the crocs didn't eated you?
[18:03] <maco> i assume transitlogger is a reference to airplanes
[18:03] <ikonia> probably
[18:03] <maco> elkybirthday: no, we didnt even see any. jussi was a sad panda about that.
[18:04] <elkybirthday> Aww
[18:04] <maco> the kayak-renting-lady's neighbor tried to tell the guys it was because it was too cold out now for the gators and youd have to come when its hot to see them
[18:04] <maco> and they were going "it's bloody 30 degrees out!"
[18:04] <elkybirthday> lol
[18:10] <olskolirc> smooches all around :-)
[18:10] <olskolirc> can i get unbanned please?
[18:10] <olskolirc> its been forever and i promised id be a good girl
[18:16] <Tm_T> nhandler: thanks, I was already well aware though (:
[18:48] <Pici> bleh
[18:48] <ikonia> I still don't understand why the floodbots are setting ban forward to -proxy-users
[18:49] <Pici> Because its doing its own open proxy checking separate of what freenode does.
[18:49] <ikonia> that's got to be stopped/got under control, that's filling bans a fair bit
[18:50] <ikonia> or it needs to be worked on with freenode
[18:50] <ikonia> plus it's picking up some false positives
[18:50] <Pici> Its not added that many bans.
[18:50] <ikonia> because I'm clearing them daily
[18:50] <ikonia> sometimes more than once daily
[18:50] <ikonia> (or at least that's part of wy)
[18:50] <ikonia> why
[18:51] <elkybirthday> and we still run out of banspace nearly daily
[18:51] <ikonia> pici has an agenda item that may resolve that
[18:51] <elkybirthday> cool
[18:51] <Pici> that people won't be happy with ;)
[18:51] <ikonia> agreed, me included
[18:52] <ikonia> but it doesn't hurt to talk it out
[18:53] <ikonia> good old idory
[18:55] <jpds> Who.
[18:55] <ikonia> idoru
[18:55] <maco> the killbot
[19:10] <nhandler> As a note, since I forgot to mention it in the meeting, there is 1 week remaining to submit nominations for the IRC Council. If you are interested, please send in your nominations asap
[19:21] <Pici> What do you want me to say? I don't want to discuss thiss w/o Jussi present and he isnt here.
[19:23] <Seeker`> I just don't see why jussi has to be there. He just wants to add more complexity to a broken system; If he doesn't turn up to a meeting that has been scheduled for a while to defend silly ideas I can't say it will be much of a loss to the IRC team
[19:25] <Seeker`> In the hours I've spent discussing it with people that seem to support the idea, I've only seen one real argument for having seperate "core ops", and that is fatally flawed
[19:30] <Pici> Seeker`: The fact of the matter is that it isn't the content of the issue that is at fault here.  I merely wish to make sure that all interested parties are present before addressing it.
[19:31] <Seeker`> Pici: I'm just fed up because I neglected other things to come to a meeting which was essentially pointless from my perspective
[19:36] <Pici> Seeker`: I'm sorry thats how things turned out.
[19:36] <Seeker`> message sent to mailing list regarding core-ops meeting
[19:53] <topyli> Seeker`: please try and add meaningful items to the agenda next time
[19:53] <topyli> i can probably make the meeting next week if it happens
[19:55] <Seeker`> topyli: I feel there is a general discussion to be had wrt why this all has to be more complicated than "ops ban bad people, the ircc recruits more ops, listens to appeals"
[19:55] <topyli> as for council members' presence at the meeting, they were unfortunately unable to reschedule the UDS
[19:55] <Seeker`> well, some of the people at UDS made it ;)
[19:56] <topyli> some people live on the same continent :)
[19:56] <topyli> (i believe jus-si is airborn now)
[19:57] <Seeker`> elkybirthday lives on the same continent as florida now?
[19:57] <elkybirthday> Seeker`, temporarily
[19:57] <elkybirthday> Seeker`, well, for one week from now
[19:58] <Seeker`> not the best definition of "living"; must closer to "on holiday" :P
[19:58] <elkybirthday> first actual holiday since forever really
[19:59] <Seeker`> gz :)
[20:54] <guntbert> hi, do you regard the nick <ubuntu_wtf> ok?
[20:55] <Flannel> guntbert: go ahead and ask him to change it
[20:55] <Flannel> guntbert: privately, that is.
[20:56] <guntbert> Flannel: ok, good idea, thx
[20:57] <jpds> And #ubuntu-motu is going downhill.
[20:58] <jpds> ...fast.
[20:58] <tonyyarusso> how so?
[21:00] <jpds> tonyyarusso: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/10/31/%23ubuntu-motu.html#t19:40
[21:02] <tonyyarusso> jpds: well, you have access there, so why not move the badness out of the channel?
[21:03] <jpds> Might not go down well, if I remove a MOTU from the channel
[21:05] <tonyyarusso> well you start by asking them to take the bickering elsewhere to stay on topic.  If they don't do that than things can progress as they would in any other channel.
[21:05] <tonyyarusso> We don't refuse to remove Ubuntu members from #ubuntu if they aren't behaving appropriately.  I don't see why it would be any different.
[21:09] <tonyyarusso> jpds: If it's in the namespace, it follows the CoC, period.  If someone has a problem with that, it can be dealt with a meeting later, but shouldn't inhibit enforcement of our community's guidelines.  Nobody is exempt from the Code of Conduct.
[21:09] <jpds> Apparently the IRCC have been sent a message about him.
[21:09] <jpds> !ircc | yo ^
[21:10] <tonyyarusso> that doesn't do what you think it does, clearly :P
[21:10] <jpds> Yep.
[21:24] <IdleOne> olskolirc:  I have removed your ban. I hope we won't be having any more issues. Please keep in mind the !guidelines and the !codeofcontact.
[23:07] <Pici> Can someone suggest to MetaPhaze in -ot that he should be asking his support questions in #ubuntu
[23:08] <Pici> Hes already in there, but doesn't like the answers that I'm giving him.
[23:23] <IdleOne> so who is going to talk to robinetd about his quit message?
[23:23] <IdleOne> He doesn't respond well to me given our history
[23:29] <Pici> Great.  Panarchy in #freenode
[23:32] <Pici> Sorry Flannel, I should have done that.
[23:32] <Pici> Got distracted by other stuff.
[23:34] <Flannel> Pici: No worries
[23:35] <IdleOne> Flannel: thank you.