[18:42] <ochosi> hey charlie-tca 
[18:43] <ochosi> charlie-tca: i just wanted to let you know that i'm working on the Faenza icon-set to make it xfce-complete and whatnot. you can follow my progress here: http://wiki.knome.fi/shimmer:faenza_for_xfce
[18:44] <charlie-tca> Thank you for that. I am still using that icon set, and it does leave gaps. 
[18:44] <ochosi> i know it does, look at how long my todo-list is :)
[18:44] <ochosi> and if you feel something that's not already on the list is missing, feel free to let me know
[18:50] <charlie-tca> Will do. I have to take a day or more to get my energy back, although the combined energy from UDS is really great!
[18:57] <mlsmith> Hey, just wanted to give the devs a high five. The 10.10 looks and works great! The wallpaper is a little too light for my taste but otherwise the theme is spot on. Great job - keep up the excellent work.
[19:07] <charlie-tca> thank you, mlsmith 
[19:07] <charlie-tca> Your comment is greatly appreciated by those devs
[19:07] <mlsmith> Are you one?
[19:08] <mlsmith> not sure what the best method is to give compliments but thought this might work :-)
[19:11] <mlsmith> I should probably swing by the Xfce channel too huh
[19:16] <charlie-tca> I am the project lead
[19:18] <mlsmith> Very cool. So you're keeping them in line.
[19:20] <charlie-tca> Not so much keeping them in line as making sure we hit the deadlines and get the images right
[19:20] <mlsmith> I know...I was kidding :-)
[19:23] <mlsmith> Should I report bugs here? -> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-team
[19:31] <mlsmith> charlie-tca: zap
[19:32] <charlie-tca> You can. Otherwise, it is best to just report them against the affected application using "ubuntu-bug PACKAGE" in a terminal.
[19:34] <mlsmith> It seems like the terminal way might be easier? Looks like I need to be approved for the Launchpad team.
[19:34] <mlsmith> I'm not sure what I have is a bug...
[19:37] <mlsmith> During installation the multimedia side still references Brasero and the Downloads shortcut says 'Download' (singular)
[19:38] <mlsmith> Those two don't seem application specific since it's a distro customization?
[19:44] <charlie-tca> already reported bugs
[19:45] <charlie-tca> mostly documentation errors. Slideshow takes more work to fix, and we ran out of time
[19:46] <mlsmith> charlie-tca: Sorry, I may have missed what you said before "already reported bugs." My connection is wonky right now.
[19:47] <charlie-tca> Those two items were reported already
[19:48] <mlsmith> ah
[19:48] <mlsmith> ok
[19:48] <mlsmith> thanks
[19:49] <charlie-tca> Thank you for your help
[19:50] <mlsmith> No problem. If I find anything else I'll be sure to report it. It would be nice if there was an easier way for regular users to report bugs.
[19:52] <charlie-tca> yes it would. Launchpad is what we have, though. We have to work within some limitations.
[19:55] <mlsmith> Understandable
[19:59] <mlsmith> Thanks for the info, Charlie. Have a nice day.
[21:16] <ochosi> charlie-tca: ah right, didn't know you were at UDS
[21:16] <ochosi> and anyways, it'll take a while to get this long list done and then it's time to test...
[21:17] <charlie-tca> uh, yeah. I thought I would try and see how this all really works. It is really amazing to be there in person
[21:17] <ochosi> cool
[21:24] <mr_pouit> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Natty/Xfce4.8 hop
[21:26] <charlie-tca> yay! are we really going to be able to have 4.8?
[21:30] <mr_pouit> 4.8 final, probably not
[21:31] <mr_pouit> 4.7.x, yes :p
[21:31] <charlie-tca> Okay :-(
[21:31] <charlie-tca> I'll take 4.7.x! That's a good thing now :-)
[21:38] <ochosi> mr_pouit: yes yes yes :)
[21:39] <ochosi> mr_pouit: i'm not exactly up-to-date with xfce 4.8's dependencies, but is a hal-sectomy included?
[21:44] <mr_pouit> at least for the core yeah
[21:44] <mr_pouit> for panel plugin and goodies, I'm not sure
[21:48] <ochosi> k, well i guess power-manager could be crucial then (or do you count that as core?)
[21:50] <mr_pouit> ochosi: 1.x should be hal-free
[21:51] <ochosi> great
[21:51] <charlie-tca> Is 4.7 what I am running in the natty upgrade now?
[21:53]  * charlie-tca seems to be looking for punishment. Upgraded his daily work machine to natty just before UDS
[21:54] <ochosi> hehe, yeah, upgrading your daily work machine sounds like a fun idea :)
[21:54] <charlie-tca> heh, only way to know if it is still working is use it, right?
[21:55] <mr_pouit> no, you have only libxfce4util and xfconf at 4.7
[21:55] <ochosi> sure sure :)
[21:55] <charlie-tca> rats