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macotransitlogger: im now reading everything you type in your accent, and it is amusing me01:10
EagleScreenhello02:02
EagleScreenScottK: ping02:03
EagleScreenI'm writting a MIR for synaptiks package, I have a rough draft of it, could you take a look to it? is all right?02:04
EagleScreenhttp://pastebin.ca/197838102:05
EagleScreenI am following this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMainInclusionRequirements I dont know what to say about point 4.7, I don't understand well it02:06
EagleScreenaparts from this, you might want to take a look to Bug #66665302:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 666653 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "X.org server segfaults when I close session (KDM)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66665302:11
ScottKnixternal: Thanks.02:23
ScottKEagleScreen: I'll try and look at it tomorrow.02:23
EagleScreenokay ScottK02:24
CIA-41[muon] jmthomas * 1191737 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/ (3 files in 2 dirs) Fix a bug with the new DownloadModel where items from previous downloads would remain if the user cancelled the download.02:53
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* transitlogger arrived at FRA11:03
nigelbtransitlogger: how many more hours to go?11:11
nigelb(to get home that is)11:12
transitloggerabout 7h11:12
nigelbtransitlogger: ouch, have fun.11:16
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* ScottK keeps rebuilding python2.7 on nixternal's powerpc box just to see if he can wake him early.13:19
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ScottKtransitlogger: I'd like your advice on armel build flags (see kubuntu-devel ml).13:45
ScottKtransitlogger: Even better I'd like for you to just upload pkg-kde-tools with an appropriate fix.13:46
EagleScreenhello13:48
transitloggerScottK: I am not sure that is the right way to do it, then again I am not sure about the implications of that change anyway, I'll look into it once I am home13:49
transitloggersheytan: ping13:49
ScottKhello EagleScreen (I didn't look yet)13:49
ScottKtransitlogger: Thanks.13:49
transitloggersheytan: can you make me another banner image for my blog (940x198)? I am working on a series of blogs about UDS and it would be more than cool to have a theme banner for that again :D13:50
EagleScreenI'd like an aprobal from any of you before submit the MIR, but don't worry we still have time until natty freeze13:50
transitloggersheytan: supposedly using the logo from http://summit.ubuntu.com/13:50
* transitlogger goes off again13:52
EagleScreenso if any of you have some time, please, review this MIR report: http://pastebin.ca/197869413:54
ScottKEagleScreen: It builds on i386, amd64, armel, and powerpc which are all the archs that exist in Natty, so say it builds on all archs (sparc and ia64 were dropped)14:01
ScottKEagleScreen: For #3, don't say it's hard to find security vulnerabilities.   Just say you didn't find any.14:02
ScottKEagleScreen: For the next 3 - Any lines say there are no results for those searches14:02
ScottKEagleScreen: For 4.7, just say it doesn't ship a test suite.14:05
EagleScreenok14:06
ScottKEagleScreen: re the daemon question in the security section: daemons aren't shipped in /etc/init.d, that's where their init scripts often go.  It does (from looking at the source) ship a daemon, so you should investigate this.14:06
ScottKThe rest looks good.14:06
jussiScottK: do you know where I can find this vapour ware they call plasma media center?  google is not talking nice to me today14:07
jussi:P14:07
EagleScreenScottK: it ships a kded daemon 14:08
ScottKEagleScreen: You need to say that in that section then.14:08
EagleScreenwell14:08
ScottKjussi: I'd have expected to find it in http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/ - but I don't see it. Maybe it moved to git already.14:11
jussihrm, I kept searching, found this : http://gitorious.net/plasma-media-center (adding "git" helped)14:14
ScottKjussi: Looks like it.  Have a look at the plasma-mobile package for hints on how to package an external plasma shell.14:23
rbelemhey ScottK 14:26
rbelem:-)14:26
ScottKhey rbelem14:27
rbelemScottK, can we start working on kde packages?14:27
ScottKrbelem: Sure.14:28
rbelemScottK, i think that we need to split kdebase-workspace-bin a little bit14:30
ScottKrbelem: OK.  Please write up your proposal and send it to the kubuntu-devel ML so we can discuss.14:30
rbelemcool! :-)14:30
transitloggerrbelem: while you are writing ... I do not have your user profile in my inbox yet ;)15:11
transitloggershadeslayer: ^ same thing15:12
rbelemehehe :-D15:13
* transitlogger is soon out of intarwebs time15:14
transitloggeroh wellz, boarding starts soonish anyway (I think)15:14
transitloggeranyhow, I am out of online time, read you later15:18
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debfxScottK: adding -Wa,-mimplicit-it=thumb in pkg-kde-tools isn't a solution as many qt-only packages are affected as well15:39
ScottKdebfx: I realize it isn't a complete solution, but the decision was made to drop this from gcc defaults, so I'm not sure what better to do.15:40
debfxdo you know what exactly causes the build failures? a compiler bug?15:41
ScottKdebfx: No.  It's some assembler that doesn't support Thumb2 properly.15:47
* ScottK looks for the wiki page15:47
ScottKdebfx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Thumb2PortingHowto knows way more about it than I do.15:50
debfxScottK: yes, but where does the assembler code come from?15:51
ScottKdebfx: I know qt4-x11 has some.  I'm not sure if there's any higher in the stack.15:51
debfxah, it's probably qatomic_armv6.h15:55
ScottKA proper thumb2 port of that would also solve the problem.15:56
ScottK(fsvo that)15:56
jussisomeone give me a hand?  what am I missing? http://paste.ubuntu.com/523924/16:00
jussinvm, I found it... libtag1-dev :)16:02
ScottKYep.16:02
jussiScottK: hrm, it built, but there were stackloads of warnings. :/16:06
jussihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/523925/16:06
ScottKjussi: Probably OK.16:07
jussikool. now just got to work out how to run it :D 16:07
Technovikingmorning all, question is there a copy of the new Kubuntu CoF logo in svg I can download?16:11
shtylman_Technoviking: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuArtwork16:11
Technovikingthanks cheers16:11
jussihrm, so it looks like it only made basic shell, or it cant find all the bits...16:44
EagleScreenhi again ScottK17:12
ScottKEagleScreen: Hello.17:12
EagleScreenI have mentioned that synaptiks ships a kded daemon, but must I provide more details about it? may be the related files?17:13
ScottKThat's sufficient.17:15
ScottKIf the MIR team has questions, they'll ask.17:15
EagleScreenok, then I have the synaptiks MIR RC117:17
ScottKGreat.17:17
EagleScreenhere it is: http://pastebin.ca/197885117:18
EagleScreenmm the security section is partially duplicated17:20
EagleScreenfixing17:20
ScottKEagleScreen: We don't install daemons in /etc/init.d, we install init scripts there.  Other than that, good.17:20
ScottKGood.17:20
EagleScreenthen, is it ready to report?, ScottK17:23
ScottKEagleScreen: Yes.  Ping me when it's in the bug and I'll comment on it.17:23
EagleScreenall right17:24
EagleScreenScottK: Bug #66955817:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 669558 in synaptiks (Ubuntu) "[MIR] synaptiks" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66955817:34
ScottKLooking17:34
ScottKEagleScreen: Looks good.17:36
ScottKRiddell: ^^^ synaptiks MIR submitted.17:36
EagleScreenwhat do you think about switch from dragonplayer to kaffeine? the current state of kaffeine is stable, and it is more feature rich than dragonplayer, for instance kaffeine can watch Digital TV17:48
ScottKEagleScreen: We discussed it at UDS briefly and decided not.  I'd ask Riddell for details.17:48
EagleScreenand what about partitionmanager on the Live CD?17:50
EagleScreenit would be really useful17:50
ScottKDidn't come up in discussion.17:51
ScottKI'd suggest mail to kubuntu-devel.17:51
shtylman_I agree with eaglescreen17:52
EagleScreenthanks shtylman_17:52
ScottKConceptually it makes sense, but a partition manager needs to be very reliable and I've no opinion about if partitionmanager is up to it.17:53
EagleScreenI have used it a few times and it worked sucessfully, but better testing would be nice17:56
shtylman_indeed... ScottK is also right :)17:56
shadeslayertransitlogger: im like.. all jetlagged... ill mail it to you tmmrw18:08
shadeslayertransitlogger: oh and gmail bug is fixed in trunk...18:28
shtylman_ScottK: what is it about action based notifications that you like? discoverability of the actions?18:37
ScottKshtylman_: That and when I see the notification, that's where I naturally aim for.  To get a notification and then have some other place I need to click to act on it is nonsense design.18:38
shadeslayerhttp://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Natty/14450330_Xqidv << pics18:39
shtylman_ScottK: I can understand that point of view18:50
ScottKThis man effectively has root on your desktops - How scary is that: http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Natty/14450330_Xqidv#1072448693_Y95d818:53
ScottKtransitlogger: ^^^18:53
DarkwingDuckLOL18:58
yahyai-0_hi19:27
yahyai-0_how to make or edit a theme like plymouth-theme-kubuntu-text19:27
yahyai-0_how to make or edit a theme like plymouth-theme-kubuntu-text19:33
EagleScreenwhy kgmailnotifier debug symbols aren't in the ddebs repo?19:49
shtylman_kdelibs5-dev: Depends: libsoprano-dev (>= 2.5.0+dfsg.1) but it is not going to be installed20:03
shtylman_                Depends: libphonon-dev (>= 4:4.7.0really4.4.2) but it is not going to be installed20:03
shtylman_:(20:03
transitloggerI am home \o/20:16
shtylman_congrats20:17
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* apachelogger hands shadeslayer a pillow to take a nap20:19
ryanakcaHeh, OpenBSD just released with KDE 3.5.1020:26
freeflyingryanakca, cool, someone is still using 3.5.x20:31
shtylman_wow20:33
shtylman_that isn't cool20:33
shtylman_I think that's ... wow20:33
apachelogger...scary20:39
DarkwingDuckOpenSuse 11 is still using 4.321:20
ulyssesDarkwingDuck: openSuse 11.3 uses 4.4.421:21
DarkwingDuckHmmm, I was talking to a friend of mine who is still on 4.3 with opensuse 1121:22
ulyssesI got a double-side openSuse DVD (one side 32 bit, one side 64 bit) here, it ships kde 4.4.421:23
EagleScreenKDE 3.5.10 is still wonderful21:24
sheytanapachelogger Hey ;)21:26
sheytanapachelogger sure, but tomorrow21:26
sheytani had some guests today :)21:26
sheytanwas busy21:26
sheytanwhen i done it, i'll ping you ;)21:26
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JontheEchidnargreening: plingy23:46

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