[01:10] <maco> transitlogger: im now reading everything you type in your accent, and it is amusing me
[02:02] <EagleScreen> hello
[02:03] <EagleScreen> ScottK: ping
[02:04] <EagleScreen> I'm writting a MIR for synaptiks package, I have a rough draft of it, could you take a look to it? is all right?
[02:05] <EagleScreen> http://pastebin.ca/1978381
[02:06] <EagleScreen> I am following this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMainInclusionRequirements I dont know what to say about point 4.7, I don't understand well it
[02:11] <EagleScreen> aparts from this, you might want to take a look to Bug #666653
[02:23] <ScottK> nixternal: Thanks.
[02:23] <ScottK> EagleScreen: I'll try and look at it tomorrow.
[02:24] <EagleScreen> okay ScottK
[02:53] <CIA-41> [muon] jmthomas * 1191737 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/ (3 files in 2 dirs) Fix a bug with the new DownloadModel where items from previous downloads would remain if the user cancelled the download.
[11:03]  * transitlogger arrived at FRA
[11:11] <nigelb> transitlogger: how many more hours to go?
[11:12] <nigelb> (to get home that is)
[11:12] <transitlogger> about 7h
[11:16] <nigelb> transitlogger: ouch, have fun.
[13:19]  * ScottK keeps rebuilding python2.7 on nixternal's powerpc box just to see if he can wake him early.
[13:45] <ScottK> transitlogger: I'd like your advice on armel build flags (see kubuntu-devel ml).
[13:46] <ScottK> transitlogger: Even better I'd like for you to just upload pkg-kde-tools with an appropriate fix.
[13:48] <EagleScreen> hello
[13:49] <transitlogger> ScottK: I am not sure that is the right way to do it, then again I am not sure about the implications of that change anyway, I'll look into it once I am home
[13:49] <transitlogger> sheytan: ping
[13:49] <ScottK> hello EagleScreen (I didn't look yet)
[13:49] <ScottK> transitlogger: Thanks.
[13:50] <transitlogger> sheytan: can you make me another banner image for my blog (940x198)? I am working on a series of blogs about UDS and it would be more than cool to have a theme banner for that again :D
[13:50] <EagleScreen> I'd like an aprobal from any of you before submit the MIR, but don't worry we still have time until natty freeze
[13:50] <transitlogger> sheytan: supposedly using the logo from http://summit.ubuntu.com/
[13:52]  * transitlogger goes off again
[13:54] <EagleScreen> so if any of you have some time, please, review this MIR report: http://pastebin.ca/1978694
[14:01] <ScottK> EagleScreen: It builds on i386, amd64, armel, and powerpc which are all the archs that exist in Natty, so say it builds on all archs (sparc and ia64 were dropped)
[14:02] <ScottK> EagleScreen: For #3, don't say it's hard to find security vulnerabilities.   Just say you didn't find any.
[14:02] <ScottK> EagleScreen: For the next 3 - Any lines say there are no results for those searches
[14:05] <ScottK> EagleScreen: For 4.7, just say it doesn't ship a test suite.
[14:06] <EagleScreen> ok
[14:06] <ScottK> EagleScreen: re the daemon question in the security section: daemons aren't shipped in /etc/init.d, that's where their init scripts often go.  It does (from looking at the source) ship a daemon, so you should investigate this.
[14:06] <ScottK> The rest looks good.
[14:07] <jussi> ScottK: do you know where I can find this vapour ware they call plasma media center?  google is not talking nice to me today
[14:07] <jussi> :P
[14:08] <EagleScreen> ScottK: it ships a kded daemon 
[14:08] <ScottK> EagleScreen: You need to say that in that section then.
[14:08] <EagleScreen> well
[14:11] <ScottK> jussi: I'd have expected to find it in http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/ - but I don't see it. Maybe it moved to git already.
[14:14] <jussi> hrm, I kept searching, found this : http://gitorious.net/plasma-media-center (adding "git" helped)
[14:23] <ScottK> jussi: Looks like it.  Have a look at the plasma-mobile package for hints on how to package an external plasma shell.
[14:26] <rbelem> hey ScottK 
[14:26] <rbelem> :-)
[14:27] <ScottK> hey rbelem
[14:27] <rbelem> ScottK, can we start working on kde packages?
[14:28] <ScottK> rbelem: Sure.
[14:30] <rbelem> ScottK, i think that we need to split kdebase-workspace-bin a little bit
[14:30] <ScottK> rbelem: OK.  Please write up your proposal and send it to the kubuntu-devel ML so we can discuss.
[14:30] <rbelem> cool! :-)
[15:11] <transitlogger> rbelem: while you are writing ... I do not have your user profile in my inbox yet ;)
[15:12] <transitlogger> shadeslayer: ^ same thing
[15:13] <rbelem> ehehe :-D
[15:14]  * transitlogger is soon out of intarwebs time
[15:14] <transitlogger> oh wellz, boarding starts soonish anyway (I think)
[15:18] <transitlogger> anyhow, I am out of online time, read you later
[15:39] <debfx> ScottK: adding -Wa,-mimplicit-it=thumb in pkg-kde-tools isn't a solution as many qt-only packages are affected as well
[15:40] <ScottK> debfx: I realize it isn't a complete solution, but the decision was made to drop this from gcc defaults, so I'm not sure what better to do.
[15:41] <debfx> do you know what exactly causes the build failures? a compiler bug?
[15:47] <ScottK> debfx: No.  It's some assembler that doesn't support Thumb2 properly.
[15:47]  * ScottK looks for the wiki page
[15:50] <ScottK> debfx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Thumb2PortingHowto knows way more about it than I do.
[15:51] <debfx> ScottK: yes, but where does the assembler code come from?
[15:51] <ScottK> debfx: I know qt4-x11 has some.  I'm not sure if there's any higher in the stack.
[15:55] <debfx> ah, it's probably qatomic_armv6.h
[15:56] <ScottK> A proper thumb2 port of that would also solve the problem.
[15:56] <ScottK> (fsvo that)
[16:00] <jussi> someone give me a hand?  what am I missing? http://paste.ubuntu.com/523924/
[16:02] <jussi> nvm, I found it... libtag1-dev :)
[16:02] <ScottK> Yep.
[16:06] <jussi> ScottK: hrm, it built, but there were stackloads of warnings. :/
[16:06] <jussi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/523925/
[16:07] <ScottK> jussi: Probably OK.
[16:07] <jussi> kool. now just got to work out how to run it :D 
[16:11] <Technoviking> morning all, question is there a copy of the new Kubuntu CoF logo in svg I can download?
[16:11] <shtylman_> Technoviking: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuArtwork
[16:11] <Technoviking> thanks cheers
[16:44] <jussi> hrm, so it looks like it only made basic shell, or it cant find all the bits...
[17:12] <EagleScreen> hi again ScottK
[17:12] <ScottK> EagleScreen: Hello.
[17:13] <EagleScreen> I have mentioned that synaptiks ships a kded daemon, but must I provide more details about it? may be the related files?
[17:15] <ScottK> That's sufficient.
[17:15] <ScottK> If the MIR team has questions, they'll ask.
[17:17] <EagleScreen> ok, then I have the synaptiks MIR RC1
[17:17] <ScottK> Great.
[17:18] <EagleScreen> here it is: http://pastebin.ca/1978851
[17:20] <EagleScreen> mm the security section is partially duplicated
[17:20] <EagleScreen> fixing
[17:20] <ScottK> EagleScreen: We don't install daemons in /etc/init.d, we install init scripts there.  Other than that, good.
[17:20] <ScottK> Good.
[17:23] <EagleScreen> then, is it ready to report?, ScottK
[17:23] <ScottK> EagleScreen: Yes.  Ping me when it's in the bug and I'll comment on it.
[17:24] <EagleScreen> all right
[17:34] <EagleScreen> ScottK: Bug #669558
[17:34] <ScottK> Looking
[17:36] <ScottK> EagleScreen: Looks good.
[17:36] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^^ synaptiks MIR submitted.
[17:48] <EagleScreen> what do you think about switch from dragonplayer to kaffeine? the current state of kaffeine is stable, and it is more feature rich than dragonplayer, for instance kaffeine can watch Digital TV
[17:48] <ScottK> EagleScreen: We discussed it at UDS briefly and decided not.  I'd ask Riddell for details.
[17:50] <EagleScreen> and what about partitionmanager on the Live CD?
[17:50] <EagleScreen> it would be really useful
[17:51] <ScottK> Didn't come up in discussion.
[17:51] <ScottK> I'd suggest mail to kubuntu-devel.
[17:52] <shtylman_> I agree with eaglescreen
[17:52] <EagleScreen> thanks shtylman_
[17:53] <ScottK> Conceptually it makes sense, but a partition manager needs to be very reliable and I've no opinion about if partitionmanager is up to it.
[17:56] <EagleScreen> I have used it a few times and it worked sucessfully, but better testing would be nice
[17:56] <shtylman_> indeed... ScottK is also right :)
[18:08] <shadeslayer> transitlogger: im like.. all jetlagged... ill mail it to you tmmrw
[18:28] <shadeslayer> transitlogger: oh and gmail bug is fixed in trunk...
[18:37] <shtylman_> ScottK: what is it about action based notifications that you like? discoverability of the actions?
[18:38] <ScottK> shtylman_: That and when I see the notification, that's where I naturally aim for.  To get a notification and then have some other place I need to click to act on it is nonsense design.
[18:39] <shadeslayer> http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Natty/14450330_Xqidv << pics
[18:50] <shtylman_> ScottK: I can understand that point of view
[18:53] <ScottK> This man effectively has root on your desktops - How scary is that: http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Natty/14450330_Xqidv#1072448693_Y95d8
[18:53] <ScottK> transitlogger: ^^^
[18:58] <DarkwingDuck> LOL
[19:27] <yahyai-0_> hi
[19:27] <yahyai-0_> how to make or edit a theme like plymouth-theme-kubuntu-text
[19:33] <yahyai-0_> how to make or edit a theme like plymouth-theme-kubuntu-text
[19:49] <EagleScreen> why kgmailnotifier debug symbols aren't in the ddebs repo?
[20:03] <shtylman_> kdelibs5-dev: Depends: libsoprano-dev (>= 2.5.0+dfsg.1) but it is not going to be installed
[20:03] <shtylman_>                 Depends: libphonon-dev (>= 4:4.7.0really4.4.2) but it is not going to be installed
[20:03] <shtylman_> :(
[20:16] <transitlogger> I am home \o/
[20:17] <shtylman_> congrats
[20:19]  * apachelogger hands shadeslayer a pillow to take a nap
[20:26] <ryanakca> Heh, OpenBSD just released with KDE 3.5.10
[20:31] <freeflying> ryanakca, cool, someone is still using 3.5.x
[20:33] <shtylman_> wow
[20:33] <shtylman_> that isn't cool
[20:33] <shtylman_> I think that's ... wow
[20:39] <apachelogger> ...scary
[21:20] <DarkwingDuck> OpenSuse 11 is still using 4.3
[21:21] <ulysses> DarkwingDuck: openSuse 11.3 uses 4.4.4
[21:22] <DarkwingDuck> Hmmm, I was talking to a friend of mine who is still on 4.3 with opensuse 11
[21:23] <ulysses> I got a double-side openSuse DVD (one side 32 bit, one side 64 bit) here, it ships kde 4.4.4
[21:24] <EagleScreen> KDE 3.5.10 is still wonderful
[21:26] <sheytan> apachelogger Hey ;)
[21:26] <sheytan> apachelogger sure, but tomorrow
[21:26] <sheytan> i had some guests today :)
[21:26] <sheytan> was busy
[21:26] <sheytan> when i done it, i'll ping you ;)
[23:46] <JontheEchidna> rgreening: plingy