=== root is now known as Guest50684 [00:06] I cant find a bug of present windows slowing down the desktop.... is it just me? === _donvito is now known as nertil [00:21] Fanfare: you might need a better graphics driver [00:22] moetunes: i might need a better graphics card anyways... nv GF 5700 173.xx binary driver [00:22] sounds like it :) === root is now known as Guest76048 === fernando is now known as Guest16167 [01:35] has anyone had issues with .ICEauthority in 10.04? [01:37] random permission issues unable to start kde [01:38] http://www.vupen.com/english/advisories/2006/1465 === altecnetcard is now known as Cristiano === Cristiano is now known as Guest27791 === Guest27791 is now known as Cristiano-Dias [01:58] something randomly changed permission to .ICEauthority and it wouldn't start kmserver [01:58] until i rm .Xauthority && rm .ICEauthority [01:59] i haven't seen a whole lot of info as to what causes the random permission change on .ICEauthority [01:59] illunatic: I run into that on rare occasions myself. I have yet to find a cause/solution to it [02:00] it's like some big mystery huh [02:00] it may have to do with me installing a bunch of themes last night? [02:00] doutful that that is the cause [02:01] I've looked into it, didn't find anything concrete and then moved on [02:02] i had a crash while running FiF, kwrite, okular, filezilla. akregator, and konsole [02:03] filezilla had an active connection to my external HDD [02:03] and Venus might have been in retrograde with a quarter moon [02:03] heh [02:04] someone mentioned corrupt boot disk somewhere. do not want [02:04] you might want to check your logs to see if you can find somethign that points to the issue [02:05] * teadict smacks KTorrent for Stalling ): [02:05] ok which logs where? :X [02:17] chuckf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/523601/ [02:18] http://paste.ubuntu.com/523603/ [02:18] it was going out of the text box for some reason heh === rahah is now known as Lyrithya === zack`ubuntu is now known as zackk === altecnetcard is now known as Cristiano-Dias [04:28] i installed a lexmark driver from disk that had a selection for debian based packages, and it messed the startup at login, changed a bunch of permissions, and tries to run the "bus". how do i unistall the stupid thing and undo all the changes that it made to the system? [04:34] good morning Lords of the Code... [04:39] is there anyway to undo the damage that a lexmark driver for a s506 printer did when i used the debian/ubuntu driver? [04:40] the driver did [04:41] or do i need to reinstall kubuntu? [04:47] interesting question cato [04:47] so the disk had a .deb file? [04:52] yeah. it did. sorry i was downstairs. the disk had .gz tar [04:53] it ask for root priviliges and then did a lot of stuff. now when i boot up it takes 2x as long and the startup process prings about 15 errorsw. [04:54] i get a kickoff launcher, and a failed file report that lists what printers are on my network. [04:55] after about 5 minutes all of the applications in the panel load. [04:55] i am just going to reinstal the os. [04:55] bbl. [04:59] is this what i use to add the kde 4.5.2 to my repo list.... ppa:kubuntu-ppa from here.... http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.5.2 [05:03] I have 10.04 [05:04] im on 10.10 [05:42] my cpu is 3ghz. I overclock to 3.6 (always). proc/cpuinfo shows 2.0 [05:42] previous distro I would disable powermanagement, and get 3.6 [05:42] any guides or info? [05:44] disabled powermanagement does not seem to help here === ChaoticEvilKitte is now known as Diziara [05:49] ok how about an easier one: how do I set all my drives to automount at boot? === cjae is now known as Shal [06:00] nothing huh? ah well [06:00] westvw put them in fstab? [06:00] whoops [06:04] !fstab | westyvw [06:04] westyvw: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions [06:04] you parted before I could answer [06:04] ok so i have to hand edit fstab? i can do that. shame it isnt a setting. [06:06] i did make the change in KDE but have to enter a password still before mount [06:06] To mount all file systems in /etc/fstab, run: sudo mount -a [06:07] anythoughts on the cpu clocking mechanism? [06:11] in the old days, you would see a cpu folder in proc, this would list the powermanagement settings of the processor. it was possible to echo a new high value so you would have the full cpu range [06:11] somewhere it is reading what the cpu is reporting and holding it to that speed [06:12] frustrating because my cpu is a late revision which means it is underclocked by the manufactoror. So i lose about 600mhz [06:12] no experience with that, westyvw ; did you see how to mount in /etc/fstab pasted from the link I sent you above? [06:13] yes, and thank you. It's been awhile but i can follow along. === Shal is now known as Ilovetocuddle === Ilovetocuddle is now known as YEAH [06:44] cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq [06:44] gives maximum cpu is allowed to go [06:44] dmidecode -t prossesor tells you what your cpu is actually capable of and what the bios is set to run it at [06:45] since no one is talking i thought I would. Hope you dont mind. [06:46] now to figure out if i have a userspace governor or what. [06:46] how is the Kubuntu system managing CPU scaling and throttling? [06:47] perhaps with KDE? [06:48] ah well bed time for now anyways. Thanks Kubuntu folks, I finally am trying your KDE after years of just plain Debian. [06:56] Is there a way I can have empathy remember my account name but not my password [06:59] has anyone else had an issue with meerka kdm themes not wanting to install properlY [06:59] properly?* [07:00] when i 'add new themes' for the login manager through system settings, they never show up in the selection dialog [07:09] nm, i got it [08:04] is there a way to move the navigation buttons to the left like in the default of Ubuntu? [08:19] hey [08:20] ive got a strange problem with gettin updates for my 10.10...when i search for updates manualy i always have to click "search for updates" n i never get anythin [08:22] it always generates a new package list [08:23] when i do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, i get 122 new updates [08:23] anyone? [08:23] hmm [09:28] exsit server aix to practice in him [09:29] i need help [09:30] helpme [09:35] iqrasoft: you make no sense [09:36] if you don't speak english perhaps it's best to ask in a channel that speaks your language https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [10:00] when i partition linux what is the minimum space for the os compared to a partitioned home file? [10:01] Cato37: i don't know the exact, but i believe 15GB is recommended [10:01] although, it could be GiB [10:01] oh noez! [10:02] illunatic: thanx. i was going to give it 12. but 15 will work also [10:03] sure i hope that's accurate [10:03] sounds fine :) [10:04] i halped! [10:09] thanx. just to be sure. :) i can give kubuntu 15 gigs and the partitioned home file can be the rest of the drive. === Kalidarn is now known as zz_Kalidarn === zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn [10:14] have a good night/day all. === root is now known as Guest62018 [10:40] hi [11:04] let's say my system freezes. i have to hard reset and boot again.. how can i see why it froze? [11:04] or where? [11:07] maybe in ~/.xsession.errors or /var/log/syslog perhaps... === epic is now known as Akallabeth [11:11] mh [11:15] hey. :D [11:15] why isn't KpackageKit finding BitchX? [11:15] !find bitchx [11:15] File bitchx found in epic4-script-hienoa, epic4-script-lice, xemacs21-basesupport [11:16] !info bitchx [11:16] Package bitchx does not exist in maverick [11:16] what does that mean? [11:16] anyone know if there's a sudo or some other terminal command to open preferences/administration via custom launcher? === muesli_ is now known as muesli [11:20] yoshilove: do you mean "systemsettings" [11:37] hi all, im join in.. [11:39] i need to learn how to compile alsa-driver. Does nyone know what tutorial i should read first? im using kubuntu dvd amd64 10.10 thanx [11:40] !compile [11:40] Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first) [11:40] where do all apps usually get installed? [11:40] !checkinstall [11:40] checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running! [11:40] ilika: normally in /usr/bin [11:41] thanks [11:41] np :) [11:43] thanks, im reading.. :) [11:53] hi i need to do a point to point connection [11:58] !adhoc === _nertil is now known as nertil [12:03] hmm [12:03] what can i do to find out why my CPU usage is spiking [12:08] check things in top maybe [12:10] hmm, why would pkill ksnapshot restart my kde session? [12:12] why isn't KpackageKit finding Nessus? [12:14] !find nessus [12:14] File nessus found in fvwm-crystal, openvas-plugins-dfsg, openvas-server-dev, picon-usenix, piwi, selinux-policy-default, selinux-policy-dev, selinux-policy-doc, selinux-policy-mls, selinux-policy-ubuntu (and 2 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=nessus&mode=&suite=maverick&arch=any [12:14] how would I install it? [12:14] !info nessus [12:14] Package nessus does not exist in maverick [12:15] ilika: there's no package for it [12:15] moetunes: I downloaded the .deb file from their website, can I use that [12:17] ilika: sure if the dependencies are met - sudo dpkg -i /path/to/nessus [12:17] to install [12:18] ok, using the GUI package installer [12:18] Hi all [12:19] moetunes: it said package was installed, no idea where though [12:19] ilika: probably in /usr/bin [12:20] ilika: in konsole try which nessus if that is the app name [12:23] whats a keyboard shortcut to run a command [12:24] ilika: ? [12:24] alt f2? [12:24] thanks [12:49] ilika: run terminal and enter commands there, that way you can see output and results === v3nd3tta is now known as v3nd3tta`` === x20a is now known as sasori2501 [13:26] по русски пожалуйста [13:27] !ru [13:27] Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke === vicky_ is now known as Guest64097 [13:31] apt-get and kpackagekit are segfaulting on me in 10.10 x86 [13:31] anybody with the same problem? [13:32] I haven't heard anyone mention that here [13:33] first I thought it is because od 4.5.2 ppa, but happened on clean install as well [13:33] maybe it is somehow connected to localisation files [13:34] I even tried install from alternate medium [13:34] first thought is a bad cd burn... [13:34] and checking memory... [13:34] yep [13:34] everything tested already [13:35] normal medium failed to finish install [13:35] did you do the cd check from the cd menu? [13:35] with alternative i did it already two times and still having problems [13:36] i think i did... i do it one more time to be safe... [13:36] you could try in konsole sudo dpkg-reconfigure apt [13:37] Thinking of upgrading to Maverick than sticking to LTS.. Should I? [13:38] sresu_: it is your choice - I prefer the lts personally [13:38] moetunes: funny i do not have any problems on 64... but it is on different notebook [13:38] during a release kubuntu and ubuntu dont upgrade major version numbers (ie lucid will never offically support kde 4.5... you can only get that though comuntiy ppas), right [13:38] lucid is highly unlikly to get kde 4.6 when it come out (or ever) where as maverick in all likly hood will.. [13:39] there'll be a backport for it I'm sure sresu_ [13:39] But ppa I don't prefer to use.. [13:39] dmatt: I would be suprised if diff h/ware had an affect on apt tho... [13:39] You got KDE 4.5.1, moetunes? [13:40] sresu_: sounds like your mind is set on moving to maverick then :) [13:41] moetunes: No, still not able to decide. I was with mind set to stick with lts alone.. Now confused [13:41] moetunes: maybe apt is failing becasue kpackagekit failed before and left mess... and I suspect it has something to do with my hardware [13:43] moetunes: Setting upgrade settings to LTS will prompt me of next LTS and get me directly to the newest, so upgrading won't be much of a issue. With that, one may not experiance the latest warez.. [13:43] sresu_: there's no reason to decide just yet [13:44] moetunes: So, what do you say? [13:44] dmatt: there's the memory checker in the live cds' menu - would that give a clue? [13:45] sresu_: if you are in two minds I would suggest waiting for a reason to prompt you [13:45] moetunes: I already did that, no memory problem [13:47] dmatt: if it's not the cd and not the memory that leaves read/writes to the hdd then afaik [13:48] moetunes: how do i check that? [13:49] dmatt: hdparm or smart [13:49] !smart [13:49] moetunes: smartmon must be installed first :( [13:50] heh - that makes things hard then dmatt ... [13:50] just finished checking second cd integrity check, both normal and alternate media are OK [13:50] moetunes: Ok.. Well, other thing about muon, you know about that package manager? I know its not totally possible to get muon in lucid due dependencies. Is there ay way I can use anything like that? Other than kpk.. [13:51] sresu_: you can install synaptic or use the command line [13:51] moetunes: I have it installed [13:51] but no not the CLI [13:51] sresu_: I haven't heard about muon tho [13:52] Its similar to Synapic [13:52] !info muon [13:52] muon (source: muon): package manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 139 kB, installed size 952 kB [13:52] sresu_: you have the cli apt installed [13:52] Command line interface, yes [13:53] I apt-cache search then apt-get install here... [13:53] Yeah, I do the same thing [13:53] it's quicker [13:53] But, I tend to do mistakes when dependencies [13:53] Small but its fine as well [13:54] dmatt: is the package manager the only issue? [13:56] moetunes: when screen locks, i could not get back, there is some video issue [13:57] i am going to make one more vanilla install without localisation, so i can track, where the issue is introduced [13:58] k === sorgen is now known as Kio-Tokio [14:00] moetunes: any tip how to test with hdparm when running with live cd [14:01] ? [14:03] dmatt: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Hdparm - I like the archlinux wiki :) === Kalidarn is now known as zz_Kalidarn === zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn [14:14] moetunes: disk is OK according to smartmontools [14:15] dmatt: no idea what the issue is since you can't reconfigure apt... [14:15] dmatt: tried reading dmesg to see if it shows some errors? [14:16] not in live cd ... [14:16] k [14:16] exdcept soem acpi stuff [14:17] dmatt: there should be /var/log/syslog on the hdd from the last boot [14:18] i am going to reboot into recovery to try to reconfigure apt === vicky_ is now known as Guest31354 === Kalidarn is now known as zz_Kalidarn === zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn [14:51] moetunes: do you know, how to start update-notifier widget [14:51] Hi! Since I upgraded to Maverick yesterday my laptop overheats a bit. Anyone has any idea what could have changed? === Kalidarn is now known as zz_Kalidarn [14:52] dmatt: nope sorry === zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn [14:52] javier__: maybe in konsole check top to see if an app is working hard ? [14:53] !nickchange | Kalidarn [14:53] what [14:54] Kalidarn: you change your nick alot.. [14:54] !guidelines [14:54] The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [14:54] Kalidarn: Xorg by root gets high percentage CPU and mem [14:54] lol [14:54] you are an idiot clearly [14:54] heh - * Kalidarn is now known as zz_Kalidarn * zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn * zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn [14:55] Kalidarn: Please be civil. [14:55] it's because my IRC client disconnects from my BNC [14:55] and that happens because suspend does not work in kubuntu [14:56] Kalidarn: I'm sure there is a setting to turn that off if you want [14:57] moetunes: i was testing to see if suspend works [14:57] javier__: you could see if there is a diff graphics card driver for your system [14:57] and it changes my name when i detatch because it is a feature. [14:57] Kalidarn: I'm sure there is a setting to turn that off if you want [14:58] it is supposed to do that. [14:58] and why would i want to do that. [14:58] !guidelines [14:58] The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [14:58] its not like it happens all the time [14:58] moetunes: thing is, i had this problem long time ago, and it seemed to be fixed already. But after this upgrading, its gone mad again [14:58] and I cant keep it even belov 50 [14:58] before I was around 40 [14:59] and where does it say changing your nick on detatch is bad [14:59] javier__: have you rebooted in meantime? [14:59] and now, even I'm in "powersafe", it gets the two processors to work, so it overheats [14:59] It happened twice, its fine. [14:59] yes, yes [14:59] i rebooted [14:59] its happening since 2 days [14:59] Kalidarn: you should avoid it in the future though. [15:00] Kalidarn: Under the 'Don't use public away messages' heading. [15:00] javier__: do you have flash running? [15:00] no... [15:01] given the amount of join/party messages in the channel and it had really only done it twice in the last block of join part messages. [15:01] is there a possibility for making impossible running the two processors when I'm in powersafe? [15:01] i hardly think that it is a real problem if i closed my irc client twice you wouldn't have complained, clients can also configure irc to not show join/party/events [15:02] I don't see join/parts here [15:03] i think you'll find what they mean by public status changes is echoes out into /say [15:03] javier__: anything about errors in the X log? [15:06] moetunes: ah, something else happened. Dont know why I dont get hidden files by pressing Ctrl+H [15:06] oh [15:08] did you say something? made the sound but didnt get any message [15:08] moetunes: furthermore i was testing to see if fork bombs still work on ubuntu [15:08] and apparently they do [15:08] so that's kind of funny [15:09] considering other distributions have default configuration as user to prevent processes from being beyond say 50 [15:09] per user. [15:09] javier__: I said oh [15:11] ah, hehe. Ok [15:11] moetunes: fot Xlog error checking, i went to .xsession-errors. right? [15:11] there are few things there [15:11] moetunes: everything work fine here after reboot... i am going to try to add ppa for 4.5.2 [15:12] javier__: there is a good start [15:12] dmatt: well done - what was the fix? [15:12] but, Im afraid, i dont know how to read there... [15:13] javier__: you can paste it and I'll have a read too [15:13] !paste [15:13] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [15:13] moetunes: everything? how was that page for pasting texts? [15:13] ok, thanks [15:15] moetunes: i did that dpkg-reconfigure thing in recovery console, but it said it did not change anything... maybe simple restart was enough [15:15] moetunes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/523899/ [15:16] moetunes: but, what do you think about what I said before? forbidding ussing second CPU in Powersafe mode. That would work for me [15:17] javier__ I wouldn't know how to do that sorry [15:18] javier__: line 6 from that paste seems like a bad start [15:18] moetunes: uggg [15:19] really? [15:19] javier__: it looks like dbus errors [15:19] moetunes: mmm, dont know what that means... [15:20] does suspend to ram/disk work for anyone else here? [15:21] javier__: I have little experience with dbus - I would as a first test move .config to .config.bak and relogin in [15:22] moetunes: rename? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [15:23] javier__: yep [15:23] moetunes: ok, done. But anything seems to have happend so far [15:24] moetunes: ok, done. but nothing has happend so far, or so it does look like [15:24] javier__: hows the cpu usage? - is xsession-errors diff? [15:25] opps, dont see whats going on here [15:28] i got lost [15:28] so, I changed to .config.bak and didnt get anything after that [15:30] javier__: there's some dbus stuff in .config - moving that dir hould have forced dbus to defaults which hopefully would have improved things for you [15:30] *should [15:31] so, you I pastebin .xsession.error for you now? [15:31] javier__: sure :) [15:32] well, line 6 remains the same [15:32] Anyone else having problems with non-functional usb ports on kubuntu 10.10 [15:33] hi, I have a printer "canon LBP 2900B" shared in workgroup named "FireFoc" using "windows XP" , my pc is connected to this workgroup, I want to using that printer in my " kubuntu 10.10" systeme, can you tell me ho. [15:33] cynewave_: haven't heard anyobe here mention it [15:34] moetunes: waw, it doesnt work copying and pasting text [15:34] weird [15:35] said: look at this page - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows [15:35] thank you [15:36] javier__: sounds like you have some major issues - is this a fresh install? [15:36] ok, plasma just broke down [15:36] :) [15:37] heh [15:37] I upgraded from 10.10 like always did before [15:37] k [15:37] plasma broke and came back as it was gone [15:37] might be h/ware issue then [15:39] moetunes: mmm, i dont think is hardware, i have had similar problems before and somehow I solved them === delta is now known as Guest77705 [15:39] i wish I could go back to my previos 10.04, just as it was two days ago :) [15:40] shall I resrore .config name? [15:40] restore [15:40] javier__: it pays to take notes about these things... :) [15:41] javier__: yep you can restore .config [15:42] Hi again, I Have a cyber cafe using ubuntu/kubuntu systeme in PC's I need a software to manage this network ( counting, opning PC, closing......) [15:43] hello [15:44] hey guys how can I uninstall the activities stuff [15:44] I have like a million unnamed new activities [15:44] of course without creating them [15:47] said: you might take a look at this http://italc.sourceforge.net/ It's meant for teachers but might do what you want. [15:50] moetunes: it seems we broke something. Now, every time I cross my cursor over paste-plasma applet, plasma collapses and switch-off for several seconds, and restart later [15:50] moetunes: what we didnt really do anything for that happening, did we? [15:51] javier__: afaik plasma has nothing in .config - you would need to logout/login to use the restored .config folder tho [15:51] but I restarted and its still happening [15:52] javier__: prob more dbus errors - check the bottom of xsession-errors [15:57] moetunes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/523922/ [15:58] k [15:58] moetunes: its full of errors [16:00] javier__: it sure is - they all seem to stem from dbus from what I know [16:01] moetunes: so... any idea what could I do with that? [16:02] javier__: I know nothing about debugging dbus errors but I'm having a google [16:02] mhm, thanks a lot [16:03] Hey guys I want to disable the plasma activties ... how can i do that? [16:03] javier__: see if this helps - http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=86596 [16:04] How I can setup/install Bzip software [16:06] said: you can install bzip (if it's not already installed) with "sudo apt-get install bzip2" [16:06] moetunes: mmm, it seems he removed some applet and his ploblems dissapeared :) [16:07] i think something like that can be happening to me, cause yesterday I had problems with KNM applet. But, right yesterday I restarted to default my Xorg configuration, so I think I dealed with those problems... [16:07] javier__: yep [16:10] moetunes: is it my problem with rendering? [16:11] javier__: I don't :think" so [16:11] javier__: I don't "think" so [16:11] ok [16:11] my problem is also with my Nvidia graphic card, that goes very hot [16:12] i remember i was working on that, but dont remember if i finally did something throw the card when my laptop was overheating or by another way [16:12] javier__: using the drivers from nvidia? [16:13] moetunes: its stuppid that the card always works at maximum performance, when Im not running games neither have desktop effects working... [16:13] mhm, nvidia driver [16:13] smooph1: I can't find anything on google for turning the activities off... [16:14] me neither === viki is now known as Guest12901 [16:16] you think I could remove NVIDIA controler if Im not using 3D aceleration?would it work? [16:17] hi allDo you know how can it lunch inaDyn at start up ? [16:18] smooph1: this might give a clue - http://hanschen.org/2009/11/17/how-do-you-use-activities/ [16:18] javier__: I would just use the open source driver 'till there was no errors [16:19] but how to use the open source one? [16:19] removing the other? === Kalidarn is now known as zz_Kalidarn === root is now known as Guest92276 [16:20] javier__: yep - and make sure there is no file xorg.conf in /etc/X11 === zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn [16:22] moetunes: no file there what means? nothing about NVIDIA or nothing about any private controler? [16:22] how I can software *.tar.bz2 ??? [16:22] !compile | said [16:22] said: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first) [16:23] how I can setup/install software *.tar.bz2 ??? [16:23] !checkinstall | said [16:23] said: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running! [16:23] said: that is called compiling - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware [16:24] javier__: if there is no file there named xorg.conf and you have removed the nvidia driver you should be able to reboot into using the opensource driver [16:25] moetunes: ok, i will do it step by step. Im removing them and see what i got in that folder later [16:25] k [16:27] moetunes: so now, any NVIDIA driver is active. and in X11 there is no xorg.conf file [16:28] javier__: you need to reboot to not use the nvidia driver - it gets loaded into the kernel at boot afaik [16:28] moetunes: but there are xorg.conf.dist-update-20031011101, xorg.conf.failsafe and even xorg.conf~ [16:28] which systeme is the best and easy ;kununtu OR ubuntu [16:29] OK [16:29] moetunes: so, I reboot [16:29] javier__: yep - if the files aren't named simply xorg.conf they're backups [16:30] said: they are much the same - it depends on the desktop environment you prefer [16:30] you mean KDE & GNOME [16:31] yep [16:31] each desktop environment has its' own apps etc [16:32] How i can change desktop environment from KDE to GNOME? [16:32] moetunes: well, everything working much faster now! [16:32] said: you can install ubuntu-desktop and select it at login [16:33]