[00:06] <Fanfare> I cant find a bug of present windows slowing down the desktop.... is it just me?
[00:21] <moetunes> Fanfare:  you might need a better graphics driver
[00:22] <Fanfare> moetunes: i might need a better graphics card anyways... nv GF 5700 173.xx binary driver
[00:22] <moetunes> sounds like it :)
[01:35] <illunatic> has anyone had issues with .ICEauthority in 10.04?
[01:37] <illunatic> random permission issues unable to start kde
[01:38] <illunatic> http://www.vupen.com/english/advisories/2006/1465
[01:58] <illunatic> something randomly changed permission to .ICEauthority and it wouldn't start kmserver
[01:58] <illunatic> until i rm .Xauthority && rm .ICEauthority
[01:59] <illunatic> i haven't seen a whole lot of info as to what causes the random permission change on .ICEauthority
[01:59] <chuckf> illunatic: I run into that on rare occasions myself. I have yet to find a cause/solution to it
[02:00] <illunatic> it's like some big mystery huh
[02:00] <illunatic> it may have to do with me installing a bunch of themes last night?
[02:00] <chuckf> doutful that that is the cause
[02:01] <chuckf> I've looked into it, didn't find anything concrete and then moved on
[02:02] <illunatic> i had a crash while running FiF, kwrite, okular, filezilla. akregator, and konsole
[02:03] <illunatic> filezilla had an active connection to my external HDD
[02:03] <chuckf> and Venus might have been in retrograde with a quarter moon
[02:03] <illunatic> heh
[02:04] <illunatic> someone mentioned corrupt boot disk somewhere. do not want
[02:04] <chuckf> you might want to check your logs to see if you can find somethign that points to the issue
[02:05]  * teadict smacks KTorrent for Stalling ):
[02:05] <illunatic> ok which logs where? :X
[02:17] <illunatic> chuckf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/523601/
[02:18] <illunatic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/523603/
[02:18] <illunatic> it was going out of the text box for some reason heh
[04:28] <Cato37> i installed a lexmark driver from disk that had a selection for debian based packages, and it messed the startup at login, changed a bunch of permissions, and tries to run the "bus". how do i unistall the stupid thing and undo all the changes that it made to the system?
[04:34] <Balsaq> good morning Lords of the Code...
[04:39] <Cato37> is there anyway to undo the damage that a lexmark driver for a s506 printer did when i used the debian/ubuntu driver?
[04:40] <Cato37> the driver did
[04:41] <Cato37> or do i need to reinstall kubuntu?
[04:47] <urgen> interesting question cato
[04:47] <urgen> so the disk had a .deb file?
[04:52] <Cato37>  yeah. it did. sorry i was downstairs. the disk had .gz tar
[04:53] <Cato37> it ask for root priviliges and then did a lot of stuff. now when i boot up it takes 2x as long and the startup process prings about 15 errorsw.
[04:54] <Cato37> i get a kickoff launcher, and a failed file report that lists what printers are on my network.
[04:55] <Cato37> after about 5 minutes all of the applications in the panel load.
[04:55] <Cato37> i am just going to reinstal the os.
[04:55] <Cato37> bbl.
[04:59] <FloridaGuy> is this what i use to add the kde 4.5.2 to my repo list....   ppa:kubuntu-ppa    from here....    http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.5.2
[05:03] <urgen> I have 10.04
[05:04] <FloridaGuy> im on 10.10
[05:42] <westyvw> my cpu is 3ghz. I overclock to 3.6 (always). proc/cpuinfo shows 2.0
[05:42] <westyvw> previous distro I would disable powermanagement, and get 3.6
[05:42] <westyvw> any guides or info?
[05:44] <westyvw> disabled powermanagement does not seem to help here
[05:49] <westyvw> ok how about an easier one: how do I set all my drives to automount at boot?
[06:00] <westyvw> nothing huh? ah well
[06:00] <bazhang> westvw put them in fstab?
[06:00] <bazhang> whoops
[06:04] <bazhang> !fstab | westyvw
[06:04] <bazhang> you parted before I could answer
[06:04] <westyvw> ok so i have to hand edit fstab? i can do that. shame it isnt a setting.
[06:06] <westyvw> i did make the change in KDE but have to enter a password still before mount
[06:06] <bazhang> To mount all file systems in /etc/fstab, run: sudo mount -a
[06:07] <westyvw> anythoughts on the cpu clocking mechanism?
[06:11] <westyvw> in the old days, you would see a cpu folder in proc, this would list the powermanagement settings of the processor. it was possible to echo a new high value so you would have the full cpu range
[06:11] <westyvw> somewhere it is reading what the cpu is reporting and holding it to that speed
[06:12] <westyvw> frustrating because my cpu is a late revision which means it is underclocked by the manufactoror. So i lose about 600mhz
[06:12] <bazhang> no experience with that, westyvw ; did you see how to mount in /etc/fstab pasted from the link I sent you above?
[06:13] <westyvw> yes, and thank you. It's been awhile but i can follow along.
[06:44] <westyvw> cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq
[06:44] <westyvw> gives maximum cpu is allowed to go
[06:44] <westyvw> dmidecode -t prossesor tells you what your cpu is actually capable of and what the bios is set to run it at
[06:45] <westyvw> since no one is talking i thought I would. Hope you dont mind.
[06:46] <westyvw> now to figure out if i have a userspace governor or what.
[06:46] <westyvw> how is the Kubuntu system managing CPU scaling and throttling?
[06:47] <westyvw> perhaps with KDE?
[06:48] <westyvw> ah well bed time for now anyways. Thanks Kubuntu folks, I finally am trying your KDE after years of just plain Debian.
[06:56] <raziel_> Is there a way I can have empathy remember my account name but not my password
[06:59] <sinthetek> has anyone else had an issue with meerka kdm themes not wanting to install properlY
[06:59] <sinthetek> properly?*
[07:00] <sinthetek> when i 'add new themes' for the login manager through system settings, they never show up in the selection dialog
[07:09] <sinthetek> nm, i got it
[08:04] <replicasex> is there a way to move the navigation buttons to the left like in the default of Ubuntu?
[08:19] <n8w> hey
[08:20] <n8w> ive got a strange problem with gettin updates for my 10.10...when i search for updates manualy i always have to click "search for updates" n i never get anythin
[08:22] <n8w> it always generates a new package list
[08:23] <n8w> when i do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, i get 122 new updates
[08:23] <n8w> anyone?
[08:23] <Kalidarn> hmm
[09:28] <iqrasoft> exsit server aix to practice in him
[09:29] <iqrasoft> i need help
[09:30] <iqrasoft> helpme
[09:35] <Kalidarn> iqrasoft: you make no sense
[09:36] <Kalidarn> if you don't speak english perhaps it's best to ask in a channel that speaks your language https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[10:00] <Cato37> when i partition linux what is the minimum space for the os compared to a partitioned home file?
[10:01] <illunatic> Cato37: i don't know the exact, but i believe 15GB is recommended
[10:01] <illunatic> although, it could be GiB
[10:01] <illunatic> oh noez!
[10:02] <Cato37> illunatic: thanx. i was going to give it 12. but 15 will work also
[10:03] <illunatic> sure i hope that's accurate
[10:03] <moetunes> sounds fine :)
[10:04] <illunatic> i halped!
[10:09] <Cato37> thanx. just to be sure. :)   i can give kubuntu 15 gigs and the partitioned home file can be the rest of the drive.
[10:14] <Cato37> have a good night/day all.
[10:40] <damsamnang> hi
[11:04] <Machtin> let's say my system freezes. i have to hard reset and boot again.. how can i see why it froze?
[11:04] <Machtin> or where?
[11:07] <moetunes> maybe in ~/.xsession.errors or /var/log/syslog perhaps...
[11:11] <Machtin> mh
[11:15] <yoshilove> hey. :D
[11:15] <ilika> why isn't KpackageKit finding BitchX?
[11:15] <moetunes> !find bitchx
[11:16] <moetunes> !info bitchx
[11:16] <ilika> what does that mean?
[11:16] <yoshilove> anyone know if there's a sudo or some other terminal command to open preferences/administration via custom launcher?
[11:20] <Machtin> yoshilove: do you mean "systemsettings"
[11:37] <jonbet> hi all, im join in..
[11:39] <jonbet> i need to learn how to compile alsa-driver. Does nyone know what tutorial i should read first? im using kubuntu dvd amd64 10.10 thanx
[11:40] <moetunes> !compile
[11:40] <ilika> where do all apps usually get installed?
[11:40] <moetunes> !checkinstall
[11:40] <moetunes> ilika:  normally in /usr/bin
[11:41] <ilika> thanks
[11:41] <moetunes> np :)
[11:43] <jonbet> thanks, im reading.. :)
[11:53] <rek> hi i need to do a point to point connection
[11:58] <moetunes> !adhoc
[12:03] <Kalidarn> hmm
[12:03] <Kalidarn> what can i do to find out why my CPU usage is spiking
[12:08] <moetunes> check things in top maybe
[12:10] <Hazamonzo> hmm, why would pkill ksnapshot restart my kde session?
[12:12] <ilika> why isn't KpackageKit finding Nessus?
[12:14] <moetunes> !find nessus
[12:14] <ilika> how would I install it?
[12:14] <moetunes> !info nessus
[12:15] <moetunes> ilika:  there's no package for it
[12:15] <ilika> moetunes: I downloaded the .deb file from their website, can I use that
[12:17] <moetunes> ilika:  sure if the dependencies are met - sudo dpkg -i /path/to/nessus
[12:17] <moetunes> to install
[12:18] <ilika> ok, using the GUI package installer
[12:18] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:19] <ilika> moetunes: it said package was installed, no idea where though
[12:19] <moetunes> ilika:  probably in /usr/bin
[12:20] <moetunes> ilika:  in konsole try   which nessus   if that is the app name
[12:23] <ilika> whats a keyboard shortcut to run a command
[12:24] <pibarnas> ilika: ?
[12:24] <bazhang> alt f2?
[12:24] <ilika> thanks
[12:49] <dmatt> ilika: run terminal and enter commands there, that way you can see output and results
[13:26] <sorgen> по русски пожалуйста
[13:27] <moetunes> !ru
[13:31] <dmatt> apt-get and kpackagekit are segfaulting on me in 10.10 x86
[13:31] <dmatt> anybody with the same problem?
[13:32] <moetunes> I haven't heard anyone mention that here
[13:33] <dmatt> first I thought it is because od 4.5.2 ppa, but happened on clean install as well
[13:33] <dmatt> maybe it is somehow connected to localisation files
[13:34] <dmatt> I even tried install from alternate medium
[13:34] <moetunes> first thought is a bad cd burn...
[13:34] <dmatt> and checking memory...
[13:34] <moetunes> yep
[13:34] <dmatt> everything tested already
[13:35] <dmatt> normal medium failed to finish install
[13:35] <moetunes> did you do the cd check from the cd menu?
[13:35] <dmatt> with alternative i did it already two times and still having problems
[13:36] <dmatt> i think i did... i do it one more time to be safe...
[13:36] <moetunes> you could try in konsole   sudo dpkg-reconfigure apt
[13:37] <sresu_> Thinking of upgrading to Maverick than sticking to LTS.. Should I?
[13:38] <moetunes> sresu_:  it is your choice - I prefer the lts personally
[13:38] <dmatt> moetunes: funny i do not have any problems on 64... but it is on different notebook
[13:38] <sresu_> during a release kubuntu and ubuntu dont upgrade major version numbers (ie lucid will never offically support kde 4.5... you can only get that though comuntiy ppas), right
[13:38] <sresu_> lucid is highly unlikly to get kde 4.6 when it come out (or ever) where as maverick in all likly hood will..
[13:39] <moetunes> there'll be a backport for it I'm sure sresu_
[13:39] <sresu_> But ppa I don't prefer to use..
[13:39] <moetunes> dmatt:  I would be suprised if diff h/ware had an affect on apt tho...
[13:39] <sresu_> You got KDE 4.5.1, moetunes?
[13:40] <moetunes> sresu_:  sounds like your mind is set on moving to maverick then :)
[13:41] <sresu_> moetunes: No, still not able to decide. I was with mind set to stick with lts alone.. Now confused
[13:41] <dmatt> moetunes: maybe apt is failing becasue kpackagekit failed before and left mess... and I suspect it has something to do with my hardware
[13:43] <sresu_> moetunes: Setting upgrade settings to LTS will prompt me of next LTS and get me directly to the newest, so upgrading won't be much of a issue. With that, one may not experiance the latest warez..
[13:43] <moetunes> sresu_:  there's no reason to decide just yet
[13:44] <sresu_> moetunes: So, what do you say?
[13:44] <moetunes> dmatt:  there's the memory checker in the live cds' menu - would that give a clue?
[13:45] <moetunes> sresu_:  if you are in two minds I would suggest waiting for a reason to prompt you
[13:45] <dmatt> moetunes: I already did that, no memory problem
[13:47] <moetunes> dmatt:  if it's not the cd and not the memory that leaves read/writes to the hdd then afaik
[13:48] <dmatt> moetunes: how do i check that?
[13:49] <moetunes> dmatt:  hdparm or smart
[13:49] <moetunes> !smart
[13:49] <dmatt> moetunes: smartmon must be installed first :(
[13:50] <moetunes> heh - that makes things hard then dmatt ...
[13:50] <dmatt> just finished checking second cd integrity check, both normal and alternate media are OK
[13:50] <sresu_> moetunes: Ok.. Well, other thing about muon, you know about that package manager? I know its not totally possible to get muon in lucid due dependencies. Is there ay way I can use anything like that? Other than kpk..
[13:51] <moetunes> sresu_:  you can install synaptic or use the command line
[13:51] <sresu_> moetunes: I have it installed
[13:51] <sresu_> but no not the CLI
[13:51] <moetunes> sresu_:  I haven't heard about muon tho
[13:52] <sresu_> Its similar to Synapic
[13:52] <sresu_> !info muon
[13:52] <moetunes> sresu_:  you have the cli apt installed
[13:52] <sresu_> Command line interface, yes
[13:53] <moetunes> I apt-cache search then apt-get install here...
[13:53] <sresu_> Yeah, I do the same thing
[13:53] <moetunes> it's quicker
[13:53] <sresu_> But, I tend to do mistakes when dependencies
[13:53] <sresu_> Small but its fine as well
[13:54] <moetunes> dmatt:  is the package manager the only issue?
[13:56] <dmatt> moetunes: when screen locks, i could not get back, there is some video issue
[13:57] <dmatt> i am going to make one more vanilla install without localisation, so i can track, where the issue is introduced
[13:58] <moetunes> k
[14:00] <dmatt> moetunes: any tip how to test with hdparm when running with live cd
[14:01] <dmatt> ?
[14:03] <moetunes> dmatt:  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Hdparm - I like the archlinux wiki :)
[14:14] <dmatt> moetunes: disk is OK according to smartmontools
[14:15] <moetunes> dmatt:  no idea what the issue is since you can't reconfigure apt...
[14:15] <moetunes> dmatt:  tried reading   dmesg   to see if it shows some errors?
[14:16] <dmatt> not in live cd ...
[14:16] <moetunes> k
[14:16] <dmatt> exdcept soem acpi stuff
[14:17] <moetunes> dmatt:  there should be /var/log/syslog on the hdd from the last boot
[14:18] <dmatt> i am going to reboot into recovery to try to reconfigure apt
[14:51] <dmatt> moetunes: do you know, how to start update-notifier widget
[14:51] <javier__> Hi! Since I upgraded to Maverick yesterday my laptop overheats a bit. Anyone has any idea what could have changed?
[14:52] <moetunes> dmatt:  nope sorry
[14:52] <moetunes> javier__:  maybe in konsole check   top   to see if an app is working hard ?
[14:53] <moetunes> !nickchange | Kalidarn
[14:53] <Kalidarn> what
[14:54] <moetunes> Kalidarn:  you change your nick alot..
[14:54] <moetunes> !guidelines
[14:54] <javier__> Kalidarn: Xorg by root gets high percentage CPU and mem
[14:54] <Kalidarn> lol
[14:54] <Kalidarn> you are an idiot clearly
[14:54] <moetunes> heh - * Kalidarn is now known as zz_Kalidarn * zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn * zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn
[14:55] <Pici> Kalidarn: Please be civil.
[14:55] <Kalidarn> it's because my IRC client disconnects from my BNC
[14:55] <Kalidarn> and that happens because suspend does not work in kubuntu
[14:56] <moetunes> Kalidarn:  I'm sure there is a setting to turn that off if you want
[14:57] <Kalidarn> moetunes: i was testing to see if suspend works
[14:57] <moetunes> javier__:  you could see if there is a diff graphics card driver for your system
[14:57] <Kalidarn> and it changes my name when i detatch because it is a feature.
[14:57] <moetunes> Kalidarn:  I'm sure there is a setting to turn that off if you want
[14:58] <Kalidarn> it is supposed to do that.
[14:58] <Kalidarn> and why would i want to do that.
[14:58] <moetunes> !guidelines
[14:58] <Kalidarn> its not like it happens all the time
[14:58] <javier__> moetunes: thing is, i had this problem long time ago, and it seemed to be fixed already. But after this upgrading, its gone mad again
[14:58] <javier__> and I cant keep it even belov 50
[14:58] <javier__> before I was around 40
[14:59] <Kalidarn> and where does it say changing your nick on detatch is bad
[14:59] <dmatt> javier__: have you rebooted in meantime?
[14:59] <javier__> and now, even I'm in "powersafe", it gets the two processors to work, so it overheats
[14:59] <Pici> It happened twice, its fine.
[14:59] <javier__> yes, yes
[14:59] <javier__> i rebooted
[14:59] <javier__> its happening since 2 days
[14:59] <Pici> Kalidarn: you should avoid it in the future though.
[15:00] <Pici> Kalidarn: Under the 'Don't use public away messages' heading.
[15:00] <dmatt> javier__: do you have flash running?
[15:00] <javier__> no...
[15:01] <Kalidarn> given the amount of join/party messages in the channel and it had really only done it twice in the last block of join part messages.
[15:01] <javier__> is there a possibility for making impossible running the two processors when I'm in powersafe?
[15:01] <Kalidarn> i hardly think that it is a real problem if i closed my irc client twice you wouldn't have complained, clients can also configure irc to not show join/party/events
[15:02] <moetunes> I don't see join/parts here
[15:03] <Kalidarn> i think you'll find what they mean by public status changes is echoes out into /say
[15:03] <moetunes> javier__:  anything about errors in the X log?
[15:06] <javier__> moetunes: ah, something else happened. Dont know why I dont get hidden files by pressing Ctrl+H
[15:06] <moetunes> oh
[15:08] <javier__> did you say something? made the sound but didnt get any message
[15:08] <Kalidarn> moetunes: furthermore i was testing to see if fork bombs still work on ubuntu
[15:08] <Kalidarn> and apparently they do
[15:08] <Kalidarn> so that's kind of funny
[15:09] <Kalidarn> considering other distributions have default configuration as user to prevent processes from being beyond say 50
[15:09] <Kalidarn> per user.
[15:09] <moetunes> javier__:  I said   oh
[15:11] <javier__> ah, hehe. Ok
[15:11] <javier__> moetunes: fot Xlog error checking, i went to .xsession-errors. right?
[15:11] <javier__> there are few things there
[15:11] <dmatt> moetunes: everything work fine here after reboot... i am going to try to add ppa for 4.5.2
[15:12] <moetunes> javier__:  there is a good start
[15:12] <moetunes> dmatt:  well done - what was the fix?
[15:12] <javier__> but, Im afraid, i dont know how to read there...
[15:13] <moetunes> javier__:  you can paste it and I'll have a read too
[15:13] <moetunes> !paste
[15:13] <javier__> moetunes: everything? how was that page for pasting texts?
[15:13] <javier__> ok, thanks
[15:15] <dmatt> moetunes: i did that dpkg-reconfigure thing in recovery console, but it said it did not change anything... maybe simple restart was enough
[15:15] <javier__> moetunes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/523899/
[15:16] <javier__> moetunes: but, what do you think about what I said before? forbidding ussing second CPU in Powersafe mode. That would work for me
[15:17] <moetunes>  javier__ I wouldn't know how to do that sorry
[15:18] <moetunes> javier__:  line 6 from that paste seems like a bad start
[15:18] <javier__> moetunes: uggg
[15:19] <javier__> really?
[15:19] <moetunes> javier__:  it looks like dbus errors
[15:19] <javier__> moetunes: mmm, dont know what that means...
[15:20] <Kalidarn> does suspend to ram/disk work for anyone else here?
[15:21] <moetunes> javier__:  I have little experience with dbus - I would as a first test move .config to .config.bak and relogin in
[15:22] <javier__> moetunes: rename?
[15:23] <moetunes> javier__:  yep
[15:23] <javier__> moetunes:  ok, done. But anything seems to have happend so far
[15:24] <javier__> moetunes: ok, done. but nothing has happend so far, or so it does look like
[15:24] <moetunes> javier__:  hows the cpu usage? - is xsession-errors diff?
[15:25] <javier__> opps, dont see whats going on here
[15:28] <javier__> i got lost
[15:28] <javier__> so, I changed to .config.bak and didnt get anything after that
[15:30] <moetunes> javier__:  there's some dbus stuff in .config - moving that dir hould have forced dbus to defaults which hopefully would have improved things for you
[15:30] <moetunes> *should
[15:31] <javier__> so, you I pastebin .xsession.error for you now?
[15:31] <moetunes> javier__:  sure :)
[15:32] <javier__> well, line 6 remains the same
[15:32] <cynewave_> Anyone else having problems with non-functional usb ports on kubuntu 10.10
[15:33] <said> hi, I have a printer "canon LBP 2900B" shared in workgroup named "FireFoc" using "windows XP" , my pc is connected to this workgroup, I want to using that printer in my " kubuntu 10.10" systeme, can you tell me ho.
[15:33] <moetunes> cynewave_:  haven't heard anyobe here mention it
[15:34] <javier__> moetunes: waw, it doesnt work copying and pasting text
[15:34] <javier__> weird
[15:35] <moetunes> said:  look at this page - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[15:35] <said> thank you
[15:36] <moetunes> javier__:  sounds like you have some major issues - is this a fresh install?
[15:36] <javier__> ok, plasma just broke down
[15:36] <javier__> :)
[15:37] <moetunes> heh
[15:37] <javier__> I upgraded from 10.10 like always did before
[15:37] <moetunes> k
[15:37] <javier__> plasma broke and came back as it was gone
[15:37] <moetunes> might be h/ware issue then
[15:39] <javier__> moetunes: mmm, i dont think is hardware, i have had similar problems before and somehow I solved them
[15:39] <javier__> i wish I could go back to my previos 10.04, just as it was two days ago :)
[15:40] <javier__> shall I resrore .config name?
[15:40] <javier__> restore
[15:40] <moetunes> javier__:  it pays to take notes about these things... :)
[15:41] <moetunes> javier__:  yep you can restore .config
[15:42] <said> Hi again, I Have a cyber cafe using ubuntu/kubuntu systeme in PC's I need a software to manage this network ( counting, opning PC, closing......)
[15:43] <Guest77705> hello
[15:44] <smooph> hey guys how can I uninstall the activities stuff
[15:44] <smooph> I have like a million unnamed new activities
[15:44] <smooph> of course without creating them
[15:47] <e_t_> said: you might take a look at this http://italc.sourceforge.net/ It's meant for teachers but might do what you want.
[15:50] <javier__> moetunes: it seems we broke something. Now, every time I cross my cursor over paste-plasma applet, plasma collapses and switch-off for several seconds, and restart later
[15:50] <javier__> moetunes: what we didnt really do anything for that happening, did we?
[15:51] <moetunes> javier__:  afaik plasma has nothing in .config - you would need to logout/login to use the restored .config folder tho
[15:51] <javier__> but I restarted and its still happening
[15:52] <moetunes> javier__:  prob more dbus errors - check the bottom of xsession-errors
[15:57] <javier__> moetunes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/523922/
[15:58] <moetunes> k
[15:58] <javier__> moetunes: its full of errors
[16:00] <moetunes> javier__:  it sure is - they all seem to stem from dbus from what I know
[16:01] <javier__> moetunes: so... any idea what could I do with that?
[16:02] <moetunes> javier__:  I know nothing about debugging dbus errors but I'm having a google
[16:02] <javier__> mhm, thanks a lot
[16:03] <smooph> Hey guys I want to disable the plasma activties ... how can i do that?
[16:03] <moetunes> javier__:  see if this helps - http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=86596
[16:04] <said> How I can setup/install Bzip software
[16:06] <e_t_> said: you can install bzip (if it's not already installed) with "sudo apt-get install bzip2"
[16:06] <javier__> moetunes: mmm, it seems he removed some applet and his ploblems dissapeared :)
[16:07] <javier__> i think something like that can be happening to me, cause yesterday I had problems with KNM applet. But, right yesterday I restarted to default my Xorg configuration, so I think I dealed with those problems...
[16:07] <moetunes> javier__:  yep
[16:10] <javier__> moetunes: is it my problem with rendering?
[16:11] <moetunes> javier__:  I don't :think" so
[16:11] <moetunes> javier__:  I don't "think" so
[16:11] <javier__> ok
[16:11] <javier__> my problem is also with my Nvidia graphic card, that goes very hot
[16:12] <javier__> i remember i was working on that, but dont remember if i finally did something throw the card when my laptop was overheating or by another way
[16:12] <moetunes> javier__:  using the drivers from nvidia?
[16:13] <javier__> moetunes: its stuppid that the card always works at maximum performance, when Im not running games neither have desktop effects working...
[16:13] <javier__> mhm, nvidia driver
[16:13] <moetunes> smooph1:  I can't find anything on google for turning the activities off...
[16:14] <smooph1> me neither
[16:16] <javier__> you think I could remove NVIDIA controler if Im not using 3D aceleration?would it work?
[16:17] <intick> hi allDo you know how can it lunch inaDyn at start up ?
[16:18] <moetunes> smooph1:  this might give a clue - http://hanschen.org/2009/11/17/how-do-you-use-activities/
[16:18] <moetunes> javier__:  I would just use the open source driver 'till there was no errors
[16:19] <javier__> but how to use the open source one?
[16:19] <javier__> removing the other?
[16:20] <moetunes> javier__:  yep - and make sure there is no file xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[16:22] <javier__> moetunes: no file there what means? nothing about NVIDIA or nothing about any private controler?
[16:22] <said> how I can software *.tar.bz2   ???
[16:22] <moetunes> !compile | said
[16:23] <said> how I can setup/install software *.tar.bz2   ???
[16:23] <moetunes> !checkinstall | said
[16:23] <moetunes> said:  that is called compiling - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[16:24] <moetunes> javier__:  if there is no file there named xorg.conf and you have removed the nvidia driver you should be able to reboot into using the opensource driver
[16:25] <javier__> moetunes: ok, i will do it step by step. Im removing them and see what i got in that folder later
[16:25] <moetunes> k
[16:27] <javier__> moetunes: so now, any NVIDIA driver is active. and in X11 there is no xorg.conf file
[16:28] <moetunes> javier__:  you need to reboot to not use the nvidia driver - it gets loaded into the kernel at boot afaik
[16:28] <javier__> moetunes: but there are xorg.conf.dist-update-20031011101, xorg.conf.failsafe and even xorg.conf~
[16:28] <said> which systeme is the best and easy ;kununtu OR ubuntu
[16:29] <javier__> OK
[16:29] <javier__> moetunes: so, I reboot
[16:29] <moetunes> javier__:  yep - if the files aren't named simply xorg.conf they're backups
[16:30] <moetunes> said:  they are much the same - it depends on the desktop environment you prefer
[16:30] <said> you mean KDE & GNOME
[16:31] <moetunes> yep
[16:31] <moetunes> each desktop environment has its' own apps etc
[16:32] <said> How i can change desktop environment from KDE to GNOME?
[16:32] <javier__> moetunes: well, everything working much faster now!
[16:32] <moetunes> said:  you can install ubuntu-desktop and select it at login
[16:33] <moetunes> !ubuntu-desktop
[16:33] <moetunes> javier__:  woot!
[16:33] <said> Thank yo
[16:33] <moetunes> javier__:  so it was a driver issue it seems ?
[16:33] <javier__> not as cold as i would like, but maybe it needs time to cold down
[16:34] <moetunes> not dbus like I thought
[16:36] <javier__> moetunes: just, letters went a bit too small
[16:39] <moetunes> javier__:  you might be using a bigger resolution now
[16:39] <javier__> ammm
[16:40] <moetunes> javier__:  in konsole   xrandr -q   will tell
[16:41] <javier__>    1280x800       60.0*+
[16:41] <javier__>    1024x768       59.9
[16:41] <javier__>    800x600        59.9
[16:41] <javier__>    640x480        59.4
[16:41] <javier__>    720x400        59.6
[16:41] <FloodBotK2> javier__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:41] <javier__>    640x400        60.0
[16:41] <javier__> how to make letters bigger?
[16:42] <moetunes> javier__:  in system settings somewhere - I'm not on a kde box atm to check
[16:43] <javier__> moetunes: ok, ok
[16:43] <javier__> thanks very much for all your help
[16:43] <javier__> im leaving
[16:43] <javier__> thanks!!!
[16:43] <moetunes> k
[16:46] <dmatt> moetunes: i am back after more testing... all is running well except when there are updates available, kpackagekit update notifier segfaults
[16:47] <dmatt> moetunes: any idea how to reset it ? would deleting /.kde do any good?
[16:47] <moetunes> dmatt:  does apt-get update work
[16:47] <dmatt> yes
[16:47] <moetunes> dmatt:  I wouldn't remove it - just rename foe now
[16:59] <gandal> ciao
[16:59] <gandal> problemi con microfono
[16:59] <moetunes> !it
[16:59] <gandal> ok grazie
[17:00] <moetunes> np :)
[17:01] <Kalidarn> hrm, i wonder why kubuntu isn't suspending
[17:01] <Kalidarn> i just see the _ line
[17:01] <Kalidarn> to either disk or RAM
[17:01] <dmatt> moetunes: I am not sure what to rename ... it is easier to set checking actualisations to Never in kpackagekit
[17:02] <dmatt> but i am still curious why it happens only to me
[17:02] <moetunes> dmatt:  you were talking about removing .kde - that is what I was suggesting to just rename
[17:03] <moetunes> in case that wasn;t the issue
[17:03] <moetunes> in case that wasn't the issue
[17:03] <dmatt> moetunes: Ah I see
[17:07] <Kalidarn> okay that's interesting
[17:07] <Kalidarn> when i do say suspend to ram i see a blinking _ and hear the suspend chime
[17:07] <Kalidarn> however when i switch to tty1 and try to login i cannot see any of my characters appearing in the login
[17:07] <Kalidarn> the keyboard obviously works because im able to switch tty
[17:09] <Kalidarn> if i switch to tty7 or 8 i just see black screen and then i can't switch to any other ttys anymore
[17:13] <amichair> every since upgrade to maverick I get complaints from others on skype calls that they hear themselves in echo, and this has never happened before... any idea how to fix this? Is it a pulseaudio thing?
[17:14] <Peace-> amichair: it could be..
[17:14] <Peace-> try
[17:14] <Peace-> to remove
[17:14] <amichair> will anything break without pa?
[17:14] <amichair> (why was it added?)
[17:15] <Kalidarn> it aims to make things easier for users
[17:15] <Peace-> i use kuibuntu without pulse
[17:15] <Kalidarn> and allows per application volume
[17:15] <moetunes> !pulseaudio
[17:15] <Peace-> Kalidarn: but it's a stupid thing
[17:15] <Kalidarn> if you remove it though you can't do per application volume in kmix
[17:15] <Peace-> alsa for normal user it enough
[17:15] <Kalidarn> but i've heard it can cause problems
[17:16] <Peace-> sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio-utils pulseaudio
[17:16] <Peace-> that should be enought
[17:16] <Peace-> you got problem ?
[17:16] <Peace-> sudo apt-get install pulseaudio-utils pulseaudio
[17:16] <Peace-> .
[17:17] <moetunes> I would use --purge remove myself
[17:17] <Kalidarn> someone told me suspension in kubuntu ie suspend to ram/disk doesnt work full stop is there any truth to this?
[17:17] <smooph> anybody know how i can disable/uninstall plasma-activities ... I have a billion unamed activities which I don't and won't use
[17:17] <Kalidarn> im trying to get it working on my system and haven't yet found out why its not
[17:17] <Peace-> Kalidarn: some computer can get that problem
[17:18] <Kalidarn> i know hardware can cause issues
[17:18] <Peace-> with some hardware
[17:18] <Kalidarn> yeah how might i find out what it is
[17:18] <moetunes> smooph:  id you have no luck here there is #kde
[17:18] <moetunes> *if
[17:19] <Kalidarn> computer is using nvidia proprietary 1 screen via DVI and only has 1 mouse 1 keyboard, with Gigabyte X58A-UD3R Intel X58 LGA 1366 motherboard
[17:19] <smooph> moetunes: good idea
[17:19] <Kalidarn> i thought about trying other distribution livecds
[17:19] <Kalidarn> to rule out if its hardware or configuration
[17:19] <amichair> Kalidarn: funny you should mention it, ever since the upgrade kmix only shows master volume and all channels are gone
[17:19] <Kalidarn> powerdevil says everything should work
[17:19] <Kalidarn> its on another tab amichair
[17:20] <amichair> Kalidarn: nope, I looked everywhere, and in settings too
[17:20] <Kalidarn> Playback streams
[17:20] <dmatt> moetunes: I found bug report describing my problem here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kpackagekit/+bug/667856
[17:20] <dmatt> moetunes: thank you for help
[17:20] <moetunes> np :)
[17:20] <smooph> Kalidarn: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Energiesparmodi_mit_ACPI
[17:20] <Kalidarn> i cant read german :P
[17:20] <amichair> in any case, I think I'll try removing PA and hope for the best
[17:20] <Kalidarn> i dont know if that will translate :P
[17:21] <amichair> Kalidarn, Peace-: Thanks
[17:21] <Kalidarn> :P
[17:22] <amichair> what the heck? I tried apt-get remove it, and it says it will remove, among other things, dasher? that has nothing to do with pa...
[17:24] <smooph> amichair: it will remove programs that have been marked for automatic installation with other programs ... you can tell apt to only remove the packages you want
[17:24] <smooph> man apt or man aptitude
[17:24] <amichair> but I installed dasher manually...
[17:24] <Peace-> amichair: you have only to remove puylse
[17:25] <Peace-> and stop
[17:25] <Kalidarn> hmm smooph
[17:25] <smooph> maybe dasher depends on the program you want to remove
[17:25] <Kalidarn> i translated it but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense
[17:25] <Peace-> the name of other applications?
[17:25] <Kalidarn> under the It does not always work :P
[17:25] <sorbiq> hi all
[17:26] <smooph> Kalidarn: maybe you should google yourself ... suspend, hibernate, your board, cpu etc
[17:26] <Kalidarn> :D
[17:26] <Kalidarn> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9475037&postcount=18
[17:26] <Kalidarn> maybe that is the problem it talks about my motherboard
[17:26] <Kalidarn> it is USB 3 apparently causing the problem
[17:27] <Kalidarn> course i guess a lot of people do not have USB 3 :P
[17:27] <Kalidarn> just when i was going to buy that new portable usb 3 hard disk
[17:28] <smooph> I don't understand why usb3 should give you trouble with hibernate ... other that the driver might be bad and won't resume when coming back out of sleep ... and than just reinitiate the driver via script
[17:29] <sorbiq> how to make transparent windows borders ?
[17:29] <sorbiq> i have themes with transparency but it dont work
[17:30] <Kalidarn> smooph: well i can try it i guess
[17:30] <Peace-> sorbiq: systemsettings
[17:30] <sorbiq> Peace-: and ?
[17:32] <Kalidarn> smooph: that's certainly the problem :P http://pastebin.com/e5iZ0W8d
[17:32] <Kalidarn> [ 1170.845612] PM: Device usb9 failed to suspend async: error -2
[17:32] <Kalidarn> that's my USB 3.0 ports
[17:32] <Kalidarn> they're the last 2 ones
[17:33] <smooph> ok than you need to create a script powering down usb3 before hibernation and backup after resume
[17:33] <Kalidarn> yeah he's got one in the thread
[17:33] <Kalidarn> it remove the xhci driver
[17:33] <smooph> there should be instructions out there explaining it with graphics driver
[17:34] <Kalidarn> it looks fairly simple, suspend, hibernate thaw resume in a case  with modprobe and modprobe -r ^_^
[17:35] <Kalidarn> except for the fact i dont think it works
[17:35] <smooph> :D well thats what i call expected
[17:38] <Kalidarn> mmm that wasn't the problem
[17:39] <Kalidarn> it must be because usb9 is the xhci driver
[17:39] <Kalidarn> unless the module is not called xhci anymore
[17:41] <Kalidarn> ah i think its called xhci_hcd :P
[17:42] <Kalidarn> woot fixed it
[17:43] <Kalidarn> mmm i seee tones of unable to read inode block blah
[17:43] <Kalidarn> ext4fs errors :P
[17:44] <apparle> hi
[17:45] <Kalidarn> oh splendid
[17:45] <Kalidarn> Resume from hibernate corrupts ext4
[17:47] <subhashish> hello can anybody help me with my sound problem? (i have installed kubuntu for second time after kubuntu 10.04 and i am new to linux)
[17:47] <subhashish> my sound output is very low
[17:47] <smooph> subhashish: what do you mean with low ... low in volume ?
[17:47] <subhashish> like in previous kmix in 10.04 the kmix is not recognising my pcm
[17:48] <smooph> whats you soundcard
[17:48] <subhashish> wait
[17:49] <smooph> if you don't know open a "konsole" type "lspci" and paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[17:50] <subhashish> smooph, it is a big output can i paste it here?
[17:50] <subhashish> oo wait
[17:51] <apparle> subhashish: is it only the problem of kmix or your soundcard is not working at all in linux?
[17:51] <subhashish> no the sound card was working in 10.04 a half an hour ago!
[17:52] <subhashish> now i installed 10.10
[17:52] <apparle> subhashish: and is it working in 10.10?
[17:52] <apparle> subhashish: I mean sound ?
[17:52] <subhashish> yes but i hav to turn the sound level of my speakers to its extreme to get any sound
[17:53] <subhashish> http://paste.ubuntu.com/523978/
[17:54] <apparle> subhashish: open konsole and then alsamixer
[17:54] <apparle> subhashish: configure it
[17:54] <subhashish> yes , directions please?
[17:59] <jaroslav_> jaroslavn
[17:59] <jaroslav_> jaroslavn
[18:08] <apparle> subhashish: open the konsole and type alsamixer and press enter
[18:09] <subhashish> i have got the gnome alsamixer installed
[18:09] <subhashish> played with it but i didnt get anything
[18:10] <subhashish> still no sound
[18:10] <Peace-> subhashish: alsamixer is a terminal program
[18:10] <Peace-> no need of gnome stuff
[18:10] <Peace-> ,
[18:10] <subhashish> ok
[18:11] <apparle> subhashish: you can find konsole in menu
[18:11] <subhashish> i did alsamixer one too and it shows that my pcm, speaker and master are at 100
[18:11] <Peace-> !imagebin
[18:12] <subhashish> ok
[18:13] <subhashish> here it is http://imagebin.org/121342
[18:15] <u19809> hi all, I could not get my JRE running op openoffice ... installed openoffice-java-common but now my kubuntu menus are gone ...
[18:19] <apparle> subhashish: just go to pcm channel and press m to see if anything changes.
[18:19] <subhashish> ok wait
[18:20] <subhashish> no nothing happens
[18:20] <apparle> subhashish: funny. everything seems to be alright
[18:20] <subhashish> yeah seems funny to me too
[18:21] <apparle> subhashish: see in the system settings sound if correct card is selected
[18:21] <subhashish> the sound is ver very low
[18:21] <subhashish> ok wait
[18:21] <apparle> subhashish: when you say sound? whcih player are you referring to/
[18:21] <subhashish> amarok, vlc, mplayer
[18:22] <subhashish> i hav got those installed
[18:22] <apparle> subhashish: use the test button in the sound menu of system settings?
[18:22] <subhashish> no i dont get anything with that
[18:23] <apparle> subhashish: try changing the card to something else? what all is listed in the cards?
[18:24] <subhashish> only one is listed named "Internal Audio Analog Stereo"
[18:24] <subhashish> and the control for that shows up in kmix
[18:24] <apparle> subhashish: no idea then.
[18:24] <subhashish> hmmm
[18:24] <subhashish> ok thanks
[18:25] <apparle> subhashish: try booting to a ubuntu live CD to locate whether it is driver or kde specific problem
[18:25] <subhashish> i will try to find a solution by myself
[18:25] <subhashish> i hav tried with the ubuntu one
[18:25] <apparle> :)
[18:26] <subhashish> and i got nice sounds from its players
[18:26] <apparle> subhashish: you mean in ubuntu 10.10 you get normal sound? or did you try in 10.04?
[18:26] <subhashish> yes normal in 10.04 and 10.10 too
[18:26] <subhashish> ubuntu
[18:27] <apparle> subhashish: then try playing some file via command line using mplayer
[18:27] <apparle> subhashish: see if three it plays normally
[18:27] <subhashish> i already have and found that it cant too
[18:29] <apparle> subhashish: did you try with aplay?
[18:29] <apparle> subhashish: but aplay only plays wav files?
[18:30] <apparle> subhashish: if aplay also doesn't play it then you have somehow messed the sound card driver
[18:31] <subhashish> no i just installed kubuntu 10.10 an hour ago but still i will look into my soundcard driver problem or will try properly reinstalling kubuntu 10.10
[18:32] <subhashish> thank u very much apparle Peace- smooph  :)
[18:32] <apparle> k
[18:41] <haribu> bin ich drin?
[18:41] <Pici> !de | haribu
[18:42] <haribu>  /join #ubuntu-de
[18:42] <haribu> ich bleib lieber beim usenet
[18:45] <Slashx> Hey
[18:46] <Slashx> I have an issue with networking.
[18:46] <Slashx> Many times hwhen I boot the KNetworkManager says Networking Disabled
[18:46] <Slashx> How do I enable this outside of going through Lubuntu
[18:54] <nuboon2age> Slashx: don't forget there's also a #lubuntu channel
[18:55] <nuboon2age> they may have the answers there if no one knows the answers here
[18:57] <Slashx> I prefer Kubuntu
[19:00] <nuboon2age> sure Slashx.  me too.  just trying to help since you asked about lubuntu
[19:01] <nuboon2age> Slashx: oh, now that i read your question again, i have a different understanding
[19:02] <Slashx> I only know how to enable it via switching to Lubuntu
[19:02] <nuboon2age> i got a tip from james148 about this
[19:02] <nuboon2age> i have the same problem
[19:03] <nuboon2age> but right at the moment i don't know if i can recall the answer he gave me
[19:08] <nuboon2age> Slashx: it involved editing a text file
[19:09] <nuboon2age> but i can't locate my notes right now to tell you which file and what to change.  i can tell you it was very simple
[19:11] <pibarnas> nuboon2age: could u repeat that please?
[19:12] <nuboon2age> pibarnas: sorry repeat which?
[19:12] <pibarnas> nuboon2age: do u have a problem there, is that it?
[19:12] <Slashx> pibarnas:
[19:12] <Slashx> I have the prblem
[19:12] <Slashx> *problem
[19:12] <Slashx> [14:46] <Slashx> I have an issue with networking.
[19:12] <Slashx> [14:46] <Slashx> Many times hwhen I boot the KNetworkManager says Networking Disabled
[19:12] <FloodBotK2> Slashx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:13] <Slashx> oops
[19:16] <pibarnas> Slashx: sorry, I'm afraid I can't help u, dude.
[19:16] <pibarnas> I know nothing about networking.
[19:43] <teadict> how do I set up default view mode as columns for Dolphin?
[19:43] <teadict> can get it to remember
[19:43] <teadict> *can't
[20:00] <vasiliy> привет всем
[20:00] <maco> !ru
[20:00] <vasiliy> что такое  Riddell
[20:45] <raziel_> Is there a way I can have empathy remember my account name but not my password
[20:45] <raziel_> ?
[20:52] <rek> hi
[20:57] <rek> hi can you help me to do a point to point?
[20:59] <sresu> rek | !ask
[20:59] <sresu> !ask
[21:00] <rek> can you drive me
[21:00] <rek> i asked
[21:00] <sresu> Whats the issue?
[21:00] <rek> i set it up but i don't have the internet in my client
[21:00] <sresu> You set what?
[21:01] <sresu> What are you trying to do?
[21:01] <rek> nat and ip forwarding ip s
[21:01] <sresu> Which client?
[21:01] <rek> i connected a pc to my pc with a ethernet cable
[21:01] <sresu> Ok..
[21:02] <rek> wifi access point---pc 2 nics internet on wifi-----eth cable------pc 1 nic(eth)
[21:05] <sresu> wifi access point?
[21:05] <sresu> Is the ethernet cable cross over?
[21:07] <sresu> I did that long back, had sopme problems but was resolved so I maybe able to help you right
[21:07] <sresu> rek: You got standard cable or cross over ones?
[21:08] <rek> the one used to connect your pc to your access point or router it has all the pins (i already managed to have an interent connection doing a point to point with this cable)
[21:10] <sresu> rek: Here
[21:10] <sresu> rek: There is difference between standard and cross over ones
[21:11] <rek> i know
[21:12] <sresu> rek: cross-wired ethernet cable RJ-45 with RX and TX lines crossed over, right?
[21:13] <sresu> rek: Or does your ethernet port supports automatic link negotiation?
[21:15] <rek> yes auto eth
[21:30] <Matt___> Salut
[21:31] <Matt___> Quelqun sais comment baisser la luminosité de mon portable sous Xubuntu 10.10 ?
[21:35] <ubuntu> hi
[21:35] <ubuntu> I need help
[21:35] <Margus> hi, I need help
[21:35] <Margus> I installed kubuntu
[21:36] <Margus> then applied all updates
[21:36] <Margus> and after reboot I only see grub command line
[21:36] <Margus> don't know much about grub
[21:36] <Margus> but running something like root hd0 says unknown filesystam
[21:37] <Margus> however, when I just install kubuntu and don't apply updates, I can boot
[21:37] <Margus> any ideas ?
[21:41] <mood> hi
[21:58] <wilhart> how did i upgrade to 10.10 plz
[22:22] <u19809> hi all, i seem to have lost my openoffice 'K' menu icons ... how can I restore them ?
[22:38] <wilhart> why does my playback give flickering with kde effects?
[22:39] <wilhart> tried vpdau,xv and gl
[22:39] <wilhart> i got a move with fireplace and the fire flickers!
[22:43] <wilhart> anyone?
[23:01] <wilhart> why does my playback give flickering with kde effects?
[23:23] <despair> hey all, banging my head into the wall over here, i can type the swedish chars (öäå) everywhere, but not in the kde konsole. they work in konsole ouside of X11, but not in kde konsole
[23:25] <epyon22> did any of you guys have problems with composing after upgrading to 10.10
[23:26] <nerdy_kid> epyon22 nope.  whats your gfx card?
[23:26] <despair> they dont seem to work in xterm either
[23:26] <epyon22> intel x3100
[23:27] <epyon22> worked great in 9.04 9.10 and 10.04
[23:27] <nerdy_kid> epyon22 does it work at all?
[23:27] <epyon22> it works but its slow and disables it self alot
[23:27] <epyon22> usally disabled as soon as i login
[23:28] <nerdy_kid> epyon22 hmm I have nvidia so I cant give many pointers.  Could always downgrade the intel driver
[23:28] <epyon22> yeah would any .kde config stuff get in the way?
[23:28] <jmichaelx> i don't think that downgrading the intel driver is an option....
[23:29] <jmichaelx> epyon22: in 10.10, many mobile intel gpu's are having a lot of performance issues
[23:29] <epyon22> ok no fixes yet?
[23:29] <jmichaelx> epyon22: the simplest solution seems to be reverting to 10.04.
[23:29] <epyon22> ugh lol
[23:29] <jmichaelx> epyon22: no good solution that i have found yet, and i have looked
[23:30] <nerdy_kid> jmichaelx: why not downgrade just the intel driver?  the xserver-intel package should do it, and the kernel too if he really needs it
[23:30] <epyon22> temping though i am enjoying this new default dark interface :)
[23:30] <jmichaelx> nerdy_kid: downgrade to which version?
[23:31] <jmichaelx> epyon22: i imagine that you could configure things in 10.04 to have the appearance you want far more easily than getting your intel gpu to function correctly
[23:31] <nerdy_kid> jmichaelx: he could just add the old lucid rep back in sources.list, apt-get update, downgrade the package and disable the lucid rep.  rather hackish, but it does work.
[23:31] <nerdy_kid> *should work
[23:32] <nerdy_kid> maybe downgrade all of X11
[23:32] <jmichaelx> nerdy_kid: i have not attempted that, but i do not think it would work..
[23:32] <jmichaelx> nerdy_kid: yes, all of X11 would have to downgraded with it.... i do not believe it is worth attempting
[23:32] <epyon22> if im going to downgrade x11 i miswell go back to 10.04
[23:32] <jmichaelx> epyon22: i very much agree
[23:33] <nerdy_kid> epyon22: well I would think that it would be easier to downgrade X then revert to lucid, but I suppose it depends on your setup
[23:33] <epyon22> i have a seperate home partition
[23:33] <epyon22> so its ez to downgrade
[23:34] <jmichaelx> nerdy_kid: it does depend, but with separate home partition, downgrading to 10.04 is a piece of cake
[23:34] <jmichaelx> epyon22: totally agree
[23:34] <nerdy_kid> jmichaelx: yeah I guess you are right.  idk, personally I would go the hard way, but thats me :D
[23:34] <epyon22> hmm
[23:34] <epyon22> haha
[23:35] <jmichaelx> nerdy_kid: nothing wrong at all with trying what you suggested, if a person has the time and inclination
[23:35] <epyon22> well thank you for your help guys im probally gonna stick with 10.10 for now wait for a fix and if i get frustrated with it ill just take it back down
[23:36] <RoDiMuS-X> Does Kubuntu have any advantages over ubuntu other than it uses KDE vs GNOME
[23:36] <epyon22> i enjoy all the new fixes like the new network manger and themes and the stuff that i havent played with yet
[23:36] <nerdy_kid> RoDiMuS-X: nope.  'cept that kde is prettier :)  (each have their own opinions about that however)
[23:37] <olskolirc> what toolkit do we use to C++ programming please?
[23:37] <RoDiMuS-X> nerdy_kid: Do you know if the ubuntu font is used in KDE
[23:37] <nerdy_kid> RoDiMuS-X: it can be, and is by default in 10.10 but personally I dislike the font and switched.
[23:38] <nerdy_kid> RoDiMuS-X: let me reword that, it can be only in 10.10 AFAIK.
[23:38] <RoDiMuS-X> Nerdy_kid: I am trying to decide if I want to switch desktops because of unity set to release in 11.04
[23:38] <KimLaRoux> http://apt.last.fm/ <== best repo page ever
[23:39] <jmichaelx> nerdy_kid: i am with you on the font change
[23:39] <nerdy_kid> RoDiMuS-X: yeah I don't know anything about unity.  Do know that I used to be a gnome guy until KDE hit 4.3.
[23:39] <nerdy_kid> jmichaelx: the ubuntu font just looks really icky to me on kubuntu.
[23:40] <jmichaelx> nerdy_kid: i have been feeling the same way
[23:40] <RoDiMuS-X> nerdy_kid: Would you say the screenshots of KDE on KDE.org and Kubuntu do not do it justice
[23:41] <nerdy_kid> RoDiMuS-X: kde is VERY flexible as far as looks go.  This is my setup currently http://yfrog.com/m9screenie13j.  I would say that the kde look sceenies are sometimes good, sometimes really bad.  the default theme is almost perfect in my opinon, I just lighten it up a little.
[23:41] <nerdy_kid> not the best screenie of my setup either....
[23:42] <Glaivlen> Hi, everyone! :D
[23:42] <nerdy_kid> hi :)
[23:43] <RoDiMuS-X> nerdy_kid: yeah that looks way better than Kubuntu and KDE screenshots
[23:43] <nerdy_kid> RoDiMuS-X: thanks :)  one thing I will say, that I would switch QT's gfx backend from Xrender to Raster
[23:45] <nerdy_kid> just did that to my setup today and things go waay faster now.  X11 uses like no CPU either -- used to use up to %30 of one of my cores.  You install kde-config-qt-graphicssystem
[23:45] <nerdy_kid> then change the setting in system settings.  I found that I had to tweak my fonts a little, but it is well worth it.
[23:46] <RoDiMuS-X> the work shows
[23:46] <nerdy_kid> thanks :)
[23:47] <RoDiMuS-X> What about using a dock such as AWN any issues in KDE
[23:48] <nerdy_kid> RoDiMuS-X: those look terrible.  They are all written in GTK, so thus stand out terribly.
[23:49] <RoDiMuS-X> nerdy_kid: there is no native dock other than the bar in KDE
[23:49] <nerdy_kid> I would recommed grabbing the svn version of the gtk-qt engine to make gtk apps blend in better, maybe the docks will look better then.
[23:50] <nerdy_kid> There are plasmoids that emulate a dock, a couple that look like a mac dock.  I have never found these very nice to use however.  kde 4.6 is going to have app pinning support, and I am sure the docks for kde will get much better after that.
[23:51] <nerdy_kid> so you _can_ use awn/any other dock if you want, but it will most likely look a tad bit funny.  gtk-qt engine does a pretty good job at hiding gtk apps, but it still will look a little different.
[23:51] <RoDiMuS-X> Yeah I don't like the MAC dock either
[23:52] <nerdy_kid> by default KDE has a windows like setup, as you probably have seen.  The task bar behaves just like it does in windows.  There are other task plasmoids you can use however.  personally, I cant wait for app pinning in 4.6.
[23:53] <nerdy_kid> oh I forgot, if you switch qt's backend to raster it breaks gtk-qt.  You are stuck with qtcurve for the gtk apps.