[01:15] <maco> !sru | AlanBell
[01:15] <ubot2> AlanBell: Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[01:15] <maco> AlanBell: if its just a typo thats a simple sru to do... well.. hrmph except that then translations break...so maybe not
[01:18] <maco> AlanBell: no modificatiosn = *not* DFSG free. it could go in non-free/multiverse maybe
[02:05] <Pendulum> hi
[02:12] <TheMuso> Hey Pendulum.
[02:27] <Pendulum> hi TheMuso how goes?
[02:27] <TheMuso> Pendulum: Not too bad thanks. Almost about to head off to bed. Yourself?
[02:28] <Pendulum> similar here. I'm still in Orlando and spend the day at Disney :)
[02:28]  * Pendulum thanks MichelleQ1 for the use of her spare room ;-)
[02:31] <MichelleQ1> :)
[06:58] <AlanBell> maco: thanks, I figured the best way to get a braille font that was OFL licensed would be to draw it myself
[07:00] <nigelb> AlanBell: Debian is now frozen, we'll have to wait for it to unfreeze
[07:01] <nigelb> an NMU is non-maintainer upload
[07:01] <nigelb> unlike ubuntu, we can't just barge into a debian package
[07:05] <UndiFineD> good morning
[07:59] <AlanBell> maco: http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/LibertusBraille.ttf
[08:00] <nigelb> AlanBell: NICE!
[08:01] <AlanBell> I am really surprised there are not *loads* of braille fonts out there
[08:02] <AlanBell> because it is such an easy font to completely do in a couple of hours, I would think it would be a standard exercise for anyone learning a font design tool
[08:02] <AlanBell> I couldn't find one that was OFL licensed, which is basically what is needed to use it as a webfont
[08:03] <AlanBell> or to get it in Ubuntu
[08:05] <AlanBell> oh nigelb did you see my Faisal etherpad?
[08:05] <nigelb> I did :)
[08:05] <nigelb> Nicely done
[08:05] <nigelb> I like the bit at the end where we descirbe how he should be helped
[08:05] <AlanBell> authentically Indian?
[08:06] <nigelb> that I'm not sure.
[08:08] <AlanBell> ok, well feel free to fix anything that is blatently unbelievable about him
[08:52] <JanC> AlanBell: DejaVu Sans, DejaVu Serif, FreeMono & Sawarabi Gothic are all fonts in the Ubuntu repositories that contain Braille glyphs...
[08:53] <JanC> they aren't exactly OFL licensed, but they are free
[08:56] <JanC> http://fontstruct.fontshop.com/fontstructions/show/braille_font is also CC-BY-SA
[08:59] <JanC> BTW: FontMatrix is very useful to find what fonts support certain glyphs
[09:03] <JanC> http://yudit.org/download/fonts/UBraille/ is free too
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[10:29] <AlanBell> janc yes, but I wanted a font with the glyphs in the A-z positions
[11:34] <JanC> well, that's wrong of course, you should use the correct keyboard layout instead...  ;)
[11:37] <JanC> actually, it seems like it's impossible to select the braille layout in the Ubunt uGUI tools?  :-/
[11:50] <JanC> actually, that keyboard layout is a bit weird, but it might make typing quite fast once you're used to it
[11:50] <JanC> every character requires 2 keypresses, but no need to move your fingers ever...
[13:06] <AlanBell> how did you get to that layout JanC?
[13:07] <JanC> I had been reading the list of layouts to answer a couple of questions on askubuntu
[13:10] <JanC> the layout is named 'brai'
[13:10] <AlanBell> my font means you can flip between Braille and latin by changing the font
[13:11] <AlanBell> so how do you enable it without the GUI tool?
[13:12] <JanC> I guess you can set it system-wide in /etc/default/console-setup
[13:13] <JanC> there must be an xkb tool too
[13:14] <JanC> I did only look at the layout source files
[13:16] <JanC> acually, maybe it even works different from what I thought