[01:44] <kklimonda_> jcastro: ping
[01:46] <kklimonda_> jcastro: when you have a moment I'd like to talk with you. We got a request from Transmission developer for a quote from someone in Canonical (the more important, the better) about how we use Transmission to distribute Ubuntu. I'm forwarding you the email I got (it was also sent to pr at canonical.com but I don't know if they are the best people to ask about it).
[01:55] <jcastro> kklimonda_: I've passed it on
[01:59] <Amaranth> Arg, really need to figure out a time didrocks and me are both online
[02:01] <micahg> Amaranth: you can try in about 4 hours
[02:02] <Amaranth> micahg: Yeah, problem is I have to wake up for work 5 hours after that, probably need to be sleeping :P
[02:02] <micahg> Amaranth: ah, so maybe right before work?
[02:02] <Amaranth> micahg: Thinking about it
[02:19] <Sarvatt> RAOF: 20MB was from libdricore?
[11:27] <rodrigo_> morning
[11:30] <ari-tczew> hello rodrigo_
[11:44] <bcurtiswx> what do we start auto-merging from debian?
[11:46] <bcurtiswx> that is supposed to say when not what :P
[11:49] <Laney> there are no auto merges
[11:52] <ari-tczew> bcurtiswx: autosync is closer. merges are manually work.
[11:52] <bcurtiswx> ok, when does autosync start? O:-)
[11:53] <ari-tczew> bcurtiswx: it's started a long ago
[11:53] <ari-tczew> bcurtiswx: what's the problem?
[11:54] <bcurtiswx> oh, i was thinking it started shortly after UDS.  Thx ari-tczew
[11:55] <ari-tczew> nope. soon after toolchain fix.
[11:55] <bcurtiswx> and no problems, i was just wondering
[12:02] <rodrigo_> hi ari-tczew
[12:12] <pitti> Good morning
[12:18] <cyphermox> pitti, good morning\
[12:18] <pitti> hey cyphermox, made it home in one piece?
[12:19] <cyphermox> yep. then straight to a halloween party :P
[12:19] <cyphermox> sadly, there's snow here now :(
[12:20] <cyphermox> and you?
[12:25] <pitti> cyphermox: I'm in Cambridge, MA now, for plumber's
[12:25] <cyphermox> ah, right
[14:18] <kenvandine> pitti, will SRUs still get synced over to natty? or should I start uploading to both?
[14:19] <pitti> kenvandine: they will be as long as natty never got an upload of that package
[14:19] <kenvandine> ok, so it's automatic still?
[14:19] <pitti> which can in theory happen all the way until release
[14:19] <kenvandine> so as long as the version number matches don't both?
[14:19] <pitti> and it does for a lot of packages
[14:19] <kenvandine> bother?
[14:19] <kenvandine> ok
[14:19] <pitti> kenvandine: correct
[14:19] <kenvandine> ok, i just uploaded the humanity SRU
[14:30] <didrocks> (quick hey during a bank holiday o/)
[14:30] <pitti> hey didrocks
[14:31] <pitti> didrocks: how are you? arrived on time and safely?
[14:31] <didrocks> pitti: hey :) I'm fine thanks. Just had to run at New York, then Paris and finally run to be on time
[14:32] <didrocks> pitti: because of the flight being delayed of 2 hours in Orlando, just 50 minutes for the connexion in New York has been challenging (knowing that I had to change to another terminal and have the security check again)
[14:32] <fagan> didrocks: that sounds like a pain
[14:33] <didrocks> pitti: Same in Paris, delayed, 30 minutes for entering France, 15 minutes for the luggage as it was crowded, then run and arrived 4 minutes before the train quitted.
[14:33] <didrocks> and finally, as I arrived just on time on Lyon, I've been able to run to take the train to Annecy one hour in advance :)
[14:34] <didrocks> so free sport! ;)
[14:34] <didrocks> but all shaped finally nicely
[14:34] <didrocks> pitti: and you?
[14:34] <pitti> didrocks: I'm in Cambridge, MA since Sat afternoon
[14:34] <pitti> it only was a 4 h flight in total, with an 1 h stop in Charlotte
[14:35] <didrocks> oh, you still had a connexion
[14:36] <didrocks> pitti: when plumbers start?
[14:36] <pitti> didrocks: on Wednesday
[14:36] <TheMuso> Hey pitti.
[14:37] <didrocks> pitti: hope you can enjoy the surroundings before then :)
[14:37] <pitti> I had a nice long walk yesterday
[14:37] <didrocks> (here, back to a 5°C weather :))
[14:38] <pitti> walking through the MIT campus made me wish I'd be a student again for a year :)
[14:40] <didrocks> pitti: hehe nice! ;) is that big?
[14:40] <pitti> quite so
[14:40] <pitti> I walked through other parts of the city, of course (it's not big enough for a 3 hour walk), but it's still impressive
[14:40] <gord> anyone noticed that do-release-upgrade doesn't work yet unless you specify -d? i'm rather worried i'll upgrade my media box to natty here ;)
[14:40] <pitti> and all the pumpkins and fancy costumes :0
[14:40] <didrocks> pitti: awesome :-)
[14:43] <Laney> gord: see /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[14:45] <didrocks> mterry: I saw you changed the Quickly blueprints, thinking about it, the postinst mv won't work if the goal of /opt is to avoid namespace clash (as the files would be in /usr/lib for dpkg and so, it will try to avoid overwrite)
[14:45] <didrocks> mterry: so, I'll add prefix support to python-central
[14:45] <gord> Laney, hrm? no, thats not what i am saying. do-release-upgrade thinks that maverick is still the development release for some reason. i'm guessing because its the last value here maybe http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release
[14:46] <Laney> oh ok
[14:46] <mterry> didrocks, well, maybe there was some confusion.  I agree that 'postinst' wouldn't work right.  But I thought we had talked about post-install-into-debian/tmp logic in debian/rules.
[14:47] <didrocks> mterry: oh ok, yeah, I was thinking that you talked about postinst
[14:47] <didrocks> mterry: I'm fine with that temporary solution then :)
[14:48] <mterry> didrocks, I may have used the word postinst, but I meant postinstall.  Probably just shut my mouth too quick.  ;)
[14:48] <mterry> didrocks, that temporary solution assumes that python-support doesn't do anything special (i.e. look for anything in /usr/lib) in postinst.  Do you know if that's true?
[14:49] <didrocks> mterry: hum, yeah, python-suppotr does the symlinking, hence the fact it won't work then and the fact I assumed postinst
[14:49] <mterry> didrocks, and was one of the outcomes of the quickly session that LP can already let us upload gpg and ssh keys?  I didn't have whether that was pending or done in my notes
[14:50] <mterry> didrocks, :(  OK.  So damned if we do, damned if we don't.  I suppose we could also do a bit of symlinking ourselves as part of the hack...
[14:50] <didrocks> mterry: allow uploads is done (but not in production if I understood correctly). But we still need CoC + ppa creation
[14:51] <didrocks> mterry: urgh, with .pyc compiling and such? :/ hum, let me have a look tomorrow if I can tweak python-central for supporting prefix
[14:51] <mterry> didrocks, right, I got those bits in the work item list.  Just wasn't sure about gpg/ssh.  I think I remember that now, though.  curtis said they had landed that day in production
[14:51] <didrocks> mterry: check through the online API :-)
[14:51] <mterry> didrocks, ok, so maybe that postinstall hack work item just goes away, leaving your item to make python-central awesomer
[14:52] <didrocks> mterry: well, 3 WI please, one for python-central, one for dh_python2 and another one for Quickly tweaks (bin/ update and such)
[14:53] <mterry> didrocks, you're a glutton for work items!
[14:53]  * didrocks likes details WI as a reminder and avoid last minute "oopppsss" ;)
[14:53] <didrocks> mterry: not really, just I prefer safety net to my memory ;)
[14:54] <mterry> didrocks, done
[14:54] <didrocks> mterry: thanks! :)
[15:07] <thekorn> hi guys,
[15:07] <thekorn> hi didrocks, when you have a minute: what do you think about moving bug 663552 back to unity,
[15:07] <thekorn> as, in my understanding, the reporter is looking for some toggle in the UI to show/hide recently used files
[15:08] <thekorn> hmm, no bot, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/zeitgeist/+bug/663552
[15:09] <didrocks> thekorn: yeah, sounds good. I was thinking the first message get also some "filtering" request, but it seems it's not the case. Then good to switch it to unity-place-files
[15:09] <didrocks> please do :)
[15:11] <thekorn> didrocks: cool, thanks, will do...And now, enjoy your holiday ;)
[15:11] <didrocks> thekorn: yeah, I should disconnect soon. Thanks! :-)
[15:48] <LyonJT> Does anyone know how to get a vnc server working on ubuntu-server with ubuntu-desktop installed on it and then use a ssh-tunnel to connect to the vnc-server?
[16:06] <malte> Hi, I'm trying to port appmenu to Gentoo and I'm stuck on the GTK+ part (I'm not a gentoo developer, nor do I know C, I just like playing around with Gentoo). When I apply the 043_ubuntu_menu_proxy.patch, the build fails with the following error: http://pastebin.ca/1978783 and I can't figure out how to fix it. It would be great if anyone could help me out
[16:44] <mterry> pitti, thanks for correcting rick's LP name.  Didn't realize he had a goofy one  :)
[16:45] <pitti> mterry: yw; I usually fix that stuff immediately to stop the WI from spamming me every hour :)
[16:46] <mterry> malte, it's missing a function Ubuntu adds to GTK+ itself
[16:46] <mterry> malte, so you'd need to also patch Gentoo's GTK+ to add 'ubuntu_gtk_menu_shell_activate_mnemonic'
[17:01] <kenvandine> malte, try asking in #ayatana
[17:03] <devildante> tremolux: around?
[17:03] <tremolux> devildante: hey!  yep, what's up?
[17:04] <devildante> tremolux: hi :) can you review https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ilidrissi.amine/software-center/zeitgeist-unused-applications/+merge/39236 ?
[17:05] <and471> devildante, has mpt_ looked at that?
[17:05] <devildante> and471: no, I don't think so
[17:05] <devildante> but you raise a good point, mpt_ should look at it ;)
[17:05] <and471> devildante, he may want to know about it as well :)
[17:05] <devildante> mpt_ ^
[17:05] <and471> hehe you read my mind :)
[17:06] <devildante> :)
[17:06] <tremolux> devildante: yes, it will be good to have mpt_'s take
[17:06] <devildante> 'kay
[17:07] <devildante> so we wait for him to come, I guess :p
[17:07] <and471> devildante, don't get me wrong tho, I think it is great work :)
[17:07] <devildante> heh :)
[17:09] <tremolux> devildante: sorry for the delay on it;  it's in the queue, we are just back from UDS so we have a bunch of tasks that are taking time early this week
[17:09] <devildante> no problem :)
[17:09] <tremolux> devildante: cool  :)
[17:09] <and471> tremolux, hey, how was UDS?
[17:09] <tremolux> and471: ah yeah, it was great fun
[17:10] <and471> tremolux, you don't enthusiastic :P
[17:10] <and471> *don't sound
[17:10] <tremolux> and471: haha!  sorry, doesn't come thru well on IRC
[17:10] <and471> tremolux, hehe I am just teasing
[17:11] <tremolux> and471: :D
[17:12] <tremolux> and471: I'm still recovering a bit, trying to organize all of the plans and ideas covered, so much happens during that week
[17:13] <and471> tremolux, I bet
[17:13] <tremolux> and471: it was cool to see you in some sessions  :)
[17:13] <and471> tremolux, yeah I was saying to mpt_ luckily the time zone was not too bad, I could participate in most morning session
[17:13] <and471> s
[17:13] <tremolux> and471: sorry for the super-loud coughing in that one session  ;)
[17:15] <and471> tremolux, hehe, I shall just have to purposefully do it if I ever come to UDS...
[17:15] <tremolux> and471: still can't figure out what that was, 'cuz we really didn't hear any coughing in the room!
[17:15] <tremolux> and471: yes!  get your revenge  ;)
[17:15] <and471> tremolux, yeah it is strange...
[17:16] <and471> haha
[17:25] <mpt_> devildante, hi, yes, I hoped to look at it today but ran out of time
[17:25] <devildante> np ;)
[18:05] <malte> mterry: I was wondering how I would do that
[18:06] <malte> kenvandine: thanks, I'll try that
[18:08] <devildante> seif_: when logging to a file, do we want only the timestamp shown before each line or also a human-readable date?
[18:27] <devildante> whoops, just noticed I posted to the wrong channel :p
[20:25] <pitti> TheMuso: gconftool -R /|grep required_components
[20:25] <pitti> TheMuso: it's the /desktop/gnome/session
[20:26] <pitti> TheMuso: it's the /desktop/gnome/session/required_components_list
[20:28] <pitti> required_components_list = [windowmanager,filemanager]
[21:49] <TheMuso> Hey robert_ancell. How was your trip back home?
[21:50] <robert_ancell> TheMuso, long and boring?
[21:50] <TheMuso> Heh right, but uneventful otherwise I guess.
[21:50] <TheMuso> .c
[21:52] <robert_ancell> TheMuso, sure was.  Has plumbers starteD?
[21:52] <TheMuso> No, starts on Wednesday. Having a mini sprint until then.