hggdhari-tczew: done, new debdiffs uploaded. I hope this time I got it right :-)00:00
ari-tczewhggdh: I'll start in a couple of minutes.00:03
micahgari-tczew: since when can you upload security stuff?00:04
ari-tczewmicahg: I can't upload this one. I can ACK as MOTU SWAT.00:05
micahgari-tczew: ok00:05
ari-tczewhggdh: did you test is version 0.5.4 affected by this bug?00:24
ari-tczewhggdh: what do you think about use bazaar to send patches?00:29
micahgari-tczew: one step at a time ;)00:29
ari-tczewmicahg: hmmm?00:30
micahgari-tczew: bzr's a lot for new contributors00:30
ari-tczewmicahg: 4 commands.00:31
ari-tczewbzr push lp:foo/bar00:31
ari-tczewpatch -p1 < ../*debdiff00:31
ari-tczewbzr commit --fixes lp:foo00:31
ari-tczewbzr push (at start branch, mistake)00:32
micahgari-tczew: debdiff is a lot simpler00:32
ari-tczewmicahg: yes but I have one last suggestion :P and if he will work again, I suggest to send patches via bzr00:33
micahgari-tczew: it's actually not possible in this case00:33
micahgno -security branches00:33
ari-tczewmicahg: it doesn't matter.00:33
micahgari-tczew: it does00:33
ari-tczewmicahg: no. sponsor will grab debdiff from requested bzr branch merge.00:34
micahgari-tczew: you can't do a merge if the branch doesn't exist, it's a bug00:35
micahgand UDD AFAIK isn't used for security sponsoring00:35
ari-tczewmicahg: yes, you're right, but contributor can request bzr merge on normal branch. LP will generate diff (preview) correct.00:36
micahgari-tczew: it's a waste of time00:36
ari-tczewmicahg: waste of time was today's discussion00:37
micahgari-tczew: no, it's faster to just make a debdiff vs using bzr00:37
micahgapt-get source foo is much faster than bzr branch lp:ubuntu/foo00:38
ari-tczewmicahg: I prefer to use pull-lp-source00:39
micahgari-tczew: same difference, much faster than bzr branch00:39
hggdhari-tczew: I did not test 0.5.4 (natty)00:45
hggdhari-tczew: I just found what is possibly the fix in GIT -- http://repo.or.cz/w/ncmpcpp.git/commit/d1b82557d266795621244c62644d4d0604cf545300:48
ari-tczewhggdh: couldn't you grab this patch in the whole?00:58
ari-tczewhggdh: if this patch also fixes issue, we should upload it from git upstream.01:06
hggdhari-tczew: I will look at the dependencies01:16
ari-tczewhggdh: about your debdiffs: I would like to use Author tag instead From because you created this patch.01:16
hggdhari-tczew: no prob, easy edit, will upload corrected in a few01:17
ari-tczewhggdh: My propose: please hang on while you will test this git's patch.01:17
ari-tczewhggdh: roj?01:21
hggdhari-tczew: shorthand for 'roger', meaning 'I understand'01:22
ari-tczewhggdh: ok, so I'm unsubscribing ubuntu-sponsors till your feedback about git's patch.01:23
ari-tczewThank you for your contribution.01:23
hggdhari-tczew: OK, sounds file01:23
hggdhsound fine01:23
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micahgpsusi: powernowd is in Debian and Ubuntu at the moment.  If it's obsolete, why is it not being removed?02:53
psusimicahg, I have filed a bug in debian asking for it to be removed02:55
micahgpsusi: ah, ok02:55
psusithe last upstream release was almost 3 years ago and they said it would be the final one because it is obsolete02:55
micahgpsusi: shouldn't that be an rc bug? debian 60205202:56
ubottuDebian bug 602052 in powernowd "Drop obsolete package" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/60205202:56
psusidunno what that means... I'm not very familliar with debian bts02:56
* micahg tried, we'll see if it works03:03
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dholbachgood morning!08:32
ajmitchmorning dholbach08:34
dholbachhey ajmitch08:35
ajmitchhow was uds?08:35
dholbachexcellent, but hectic as usual :)08:36
dholbachI have yet to see how many work items I ended up with08:36
* nigelb waves to ajmitch 08:37
nigelbajmitch: were you able to get back to classroom team re:session? :)08:37
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ajmitchnigelb: yeah I did eventually reply09:14
nigelbajmitch: as you did now :p09:14
nigelb'eventually' :D09:15
* ajmitch was doing other stuff :P09:15
* nigelb was just kidding :)09:15
* ajmitch is always picked on :)09:16
* nigelb hugs ajmitch 09:16
Laneyand the blueprint spam begins!10:33
nigelbLaney: haha10:36
directhexlaney: that's why i don't sign up to blueprints10:54
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ari-tczewcrimsun: around?11:30
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ikoniadoes anyone know why sabily-grub-artwork are in the ubuntu Universe ?11:48
dholbachikonia, why are you wondering?11:53
ari-tczewdholbach: oh, good to see you here. I have a proposition to sponsors overview11:56
dholbachari-tczew, can you file a bug report?11:56
dholbachari-tczew, I'm not the only one working on it11:56
ari-tczewdholbach: yes, I can11:56
dholbachsuper, thanks11:56
ari-tczewdholbach: bug 66941812:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 669418 in ubuntu-sponsoring "Show last commit in bzr on page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66941812:05
dholbachari-tczew, thanks12:05
ikoniadholbach: sorry was AFK for a moment12:07
ikoniadholbach: just because it's not an ubuntu distro package, it's a package for a derivative, just wondered why it was in the ubuntu repos ?12:08
dholbachikonia, it's what a lot of derivatives do12:08
ikoniaI'm sure, I just picked that one as an example12:08
dholbachI think it makes a lot of sense for derivatives to not host their own infrastructure, but get their stuff into Ubuntu directly12:09
dholbachit's the easiest way of doing it12:09
dholbachand if Ubuntu users, want to try it out they mostly just install their derivative-metapackage12:09
ikoniathe image based packages such as the splash images don't seem a big deal what about packages that may create/cause conflict ?12:09
ikoniahow is that managed12:09
dholbachikonia, they set proper Conflicts/Replaces fields in the package metadata12:09
ikoniaso Ubuntu as a project is happy hosting derivative packages in Universe as a position12:10
ikoniaor supports it I should say12:10
dholbachhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DerivativeTeam might have some more information on the topic12:11
ikoniacool, thank you12:11
ikonianice looking link too, thank you12:11
ikoniadholbach: an excellent link infact, thank you12:13
ari-tczewcjwatson: could you sync package from bug 669412 ? necessary for FTBFS fix12:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 669412 in Ubuntu "Sync libpackage-deprecationmanager-perl 0.08-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66941212:30
RhondaWhy does the changelog contain twice "email address hidden" and once the real email address?12:33
RhondaIs the code to hide the email address not able to work with domains like 43-1.org? :)12:34
cjwatsonari-tczew: you know that I'll generally do them within about a working day without you having to ask, right? :)12:35
ari-tczewcjwatson: perhaps :P12:35
cjwatson(in general, don't ask unless it's urgent, it slows other things down.)12:36
cjwatsonari-tczew: I've done my second sync pass for the day now though, so that bug is fixed12:55
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micahgSpamapS: are you going to work on teh SRU for bug 557024?14:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 557024 in mongodb (Ubuntu) "mongo / mongod as packaged can't load libmozjs.so" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55702414:05
ari-tczewthanks cjwatson14:54
ari-tczewcjwatson: MoM is again paused?14:55
cjwatsonValueError: process failed 25: dpkg-source -x ace-of-penguins_1.3-1ubuntu1.dsc /srv/patches.ubuntu.com/unpacked/a/ace-of-penguins/1.3-1ubuntu114:56
ari-tczewcjwatson: ups... looking on who did upload this one :D14:57
cjwatsondpkg-source: info: applying 11-include-imagelib.patch14:57
cjwatson1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file games/spider.c.rej14:57
cjwatsonari-tczew: that would be you ;-)14:58
ari-tczewcjwatson: oh my gosh :p package is synced already, MoM shouldn't handle this one14:58
cjwatsonit's trying to generate a diff from that version to the next version14:59
cjwatsonlet me see what can sanely be done about that14:59
cjwatson(this isn't for merges.ubuntu.com, but for patches.ubuntu.com, which is populated by the same set of cron jobs)14:59
ari-tczewcjwatson: could script skip this one?15:03
cjwatsonit could, but there would be no way to distinguish between out of disk space (=> need to wait until we have some) and broken package (=> skip)15:04
cjwatsonso I think I would prefer to just kill this one with fire instead15:04
ari-tczewcjwatson: huh, I hope that Canonical will buy some HDDs :)15:05
cjwatsonsure, but it's vital that merge-o-matic doesn't just carry on regardless15:06
cjwatsonkilled; as far as MoM is concerned, that version now never existed15:06
ari-tczewcjwatson: another question. FTBFS page could check whether package is DEPWAIT. is possible to create a function, which LP/builders will detect why is FTBFS? e.g. Reason: missed linking libs => detect by "could not read symbols: Invalid operation"15:09
cjwatsonno idea, I'm afraid - the FTBFS page has nothing to do with me15:10
cjwatsonand I don't generally work on LP15:10
micahgari-tczew: that sounds prone to error15:11
cjwatsonin general?  it sounds possible to create some heuristics, although tedious.  I suspect that it would be better to try that kind of feature outside Launchpad15:11
cjwatsonsince it would be easier to evolve the code that way15:12
ari-tczewThis feature can bring easier way to sort kind of FTBFS.15:13
geserari-tczew: for that the script would need to fetch *every* build log from LP and inspect it (and the script takes already long enough to run just to fetch the build status)15:13
micahgit would be nice if DEPWAIT at it's supposed to work, just worked( I noticed at the end of maverick it worked spradically, haven't checked lately)15:14
gesermicahg: known problem, I'm waiting on lamont to review a fix for it (and deploy it)15:15
micahggeser: ok, great15:17
ari-tczewgeser: or builder will check kind of FTBFS and add to list15:21
ari-tczewscript will fetch done list15:22
geserwhen LP supports that, I can add it to the page15:22
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ari-tczewgeser: are you an author of FTBFS script?15:23
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SpamapSmicahg: re bug 557024, yes I'll do the SRU, will need somebody to accept it for Lucid.16:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 557024 in mongodb (Ubuntu) "mongo / mongod as packaged can't load libmozjs.so" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55702416:21
micahgSpamapS: I can find someone to do that16:21
micahghi Laney :)16:22
micahgSpamapS: I can review teh SRU, I just can't upload yet16:23
* ScottK slaps micahg around a bit as motivation to fix that.16:25
micahgScottK: it's just a matter of time (1 week actually :D)16:26
ScottKmicahg: I'm not well known for my patience.16:26
micahgheh, it wasn't pressing enough to chase after 4 DMB members at UDS, so I'm waiting16:27
SpamapSScottK: thats why we try to keep you inebriated whenever we see you...16:27
ScottKSpamapS: Like I need motivation for that.16:28
* ScottK notes that the group present when the bar closes each night at UDS skews significantly older than the average age of those attending UDS as a whole. Apparently the youngsters have early bed times.16:28
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LaneyOr they go offsite16:29
bilalakhtarandreserl: Can I take bug #547267 from you?17:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 547267 in nginx (Ubuntu) "nginx should not install into /var/www/nginx-default (Debian policy)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54726717:50
andreserlbilalakhtar, sure go ahead :)17:52
bilalakhtarandreserl: thanks17:52
stefanlsdIs something like DEB_PYTHON_INSTALL_ARGS_ALL = --no-compile -O0 --install-layout=deb18:05
stefanlsdstill required, or is it fixed in cdbs?18:05
geseris this an Ubuntu delta?18:05
stefanlsdgeser: yeah18:06
geserjust check if the package builds without it or not18:06
stefanlsdgeser: yeah, package builds18:06
stefanlsdgeser: just not sure its putting it in the right place (tm)18:07
geserdid you compare the package contents between the old and the new package18:07
ebroderstefanlsd: try running debdiff on the .deb files18:07
stefanlsdlet me check. thx18:09
stefanlsdok. thanks. no difference in debdiff of .deb files. so i think its ok18:17
ebroderpitti: does pkgbinarymangler run on all packages, or just those in main? (i.t. will universe packages that are built after your changes get scour'ed and optipng'ed?)18:23
geserebroder: pkgbinarymangler runs on all packages, but not every part is done for all packages (e.g. pkgstriptranslations is only done for main)18:26
* ebroder meant to send that to #ubuntu-devel, where pitti is actually joined.18:27
geserebroder: looking at the code for pkgbinarymangler, optipng is called as part of pkgstripfiles which doesn't care about the component18:29
ebrodergeser: awesome, thanks18:29
micahgSpamapS: just use a debdiff for mongodb in Lucid, merge proposal won't work since there's no -proposed branch19:23
SpamapSmicahg: is it not acceptable to propose merging into lucid, and then just let the uploader in essence "creat" the proposed branch?19:42
micahgSpamapS: the uploader cannot create the branch and the lucid branch is frozen19:43
SpamapSmicahg: well the upload creates it19:43
micahgSpamapS: right, but the hassle of a merge proposal isn't worth it since all the changes will be lost19:44
SpamapShassle?! I think they're awesome. :)19:44
SpamapSbut I don't sponsor stuff.19:44
micahgSpamapS: I think they're awesome too if the history is kept, otherwise, it's pointless19:45
SpamapSOther than it has its own comment structure, and is updatable... ;)19:46
SpamapSand the history is not "lost"19:46
SpamapSthat branch lives on forever as long as I don't delete it.19:46
micahgSpamapS: right, but it's in limbo since it cannot be merged19:46
SpamapSYou can just mark it merged after the upload. Its not the status of the MP that makes the MP special really.19:47
micahgSpamapS: I did that recently due to issues with UDD and source format 3 (was not happy about that)19:50
SpamapSyeah, the two efforts do not play nicely together really19:51
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sebnerhoi RainCT =)21:08
RainCThi sebner21:08
* iulian waves from the back of his cave.21:14
sebneriulian: :)21:14
* geser tries to lure iulian out of his cave :)21:17
* sebner greets geser :)21:19
iulianHehe. :-)21:19
iulianHow's it goin' guys?21:20
RainCTfinishing some statistics homework :p21:30
ari-tczewRainCT: is your comment on MoM for package zsync is up-to-date?21:32
RainCTari-tczew: dunno, probably not, last time I visited MoM was probably half a year ago21:33
iulianRainCT: Yay, stats!21:33
RainCTiulian: channel fail :P21:33
RainCTiulian: ah no nevermind, I failed, thought that was in -cli :P21:34
ajmitchari-tczew: yeah, MoM comments don't get cleared up at the end of the cycle, it's a bit annoying :)21:34
iulianRainCT: :-)21:35
* ajmitch wishes the plugin would load21:36
ajmitchoh look, it's waiting on a 10-page EULA to install21:37
* RainCT wonders wth is wrong with OpenOffice.org that it insists in putting a space before each ":" he writes -.-21:39
sebnerRainCT: libreoffice ftw! :P21:39
RainCTsebner: it's the same, GNU/Linux distros ship go-oo which is being merged into libreoffice :p21:40
sebnerRainCT: libreoffice > go-oo > openoffice ;D21:40
RainCTBtw, does anyone know how long it takes to compile it? I've been thinking about fixing some bugs but I don't feel like having my poor laptop 24 hours building :p21:41
sebnerRainCT: dunno, I tried a git build for some hours but it failed because of a clutter bug (pulls in so many (external) sources) xD21:41
RainCTsebner: Why does it want Clutter? o.O21:42
ari-tczewRainCT: I usually check on Launchpad, how long took a last build. Example: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-watch/0.3.2-13ubuntu4/+build/189837721:42
sebnerRainCT: don't ask me xD21:42
ari-tczewFinished on 2010-07-31 (took 3 minutes, 20.1 seconds)21:42
RainCT(took 1 hour, 21 minutes, 54.2 seconds)21:45
RainCTon amd64, and on i386: (took 9 hours, 21 minutes, 35.8 seconds)21:46
geserarch-dep vs arch-indep probably21:46
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ari-tczewwhat means on LP "Binary packages awaiting approval in NEW queue:" ?22:32
paultagari-tczew, I have no idea, but my guess it's similar or related to the Debian NEW queue22:33
paultagif you don't have the link it's at http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html22:33
ari-tczewpaultag: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/db/5.0.26-3ubuntu122:33
paultagdo the archive masters have to approve new binary packages?22:33
paultagfor Ubuntu22:33
ari-tczewdunno. let's ask cjwatson22:33
paultagI mean, I'd guess so, there must be someone like the FTP master for Ubuntu22:34
chrisccoulsonit means exactly what it says - that the package that was uploaded contains new binary packages which need approval before they enter the archive22:34
ari-tczewchrisccoulson: is tracker able to merge? I remember, that some packages can't be merged from Debian. Only packaging from scratch.22:37
geserari-tczew: the flow of a new source package is: source NEW -> build -> binary NEW -> published22:37
chrisccoulsonari-tczew, no idea, i've not looked at the changes22:37
geserif new binary packages get introduced the only need the second part: binary NEW -> published22:37
ari-tczewgeser: hmm. it was a big merge. bump from upstream 4 to 5.22:38
chrisccoulson"* Add libdb5.0-{sql,stl}{,-dev} packages" is why it is in NEW22:39
ajmitchyet another libdb version, yay22:40
geserari-tczew: it's nothing about big or small change; libdb5.0* wasn't seen before so the archive admins have to take a "look" and put them into the right component (usually the same as the source)22:40
cjwatsonajmitch: FWIW MoM comments should get cleaned up now once the merge goes away, but I only fixed that bug last week23:07
cjwatsonso it's still possible for there to be old stale comments23:07
ajmitchcjwatson: great, thanks for fixing that23:07
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ari-tczewcjwatson: could you approve these binaries? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/db/5.0.26-3ubuntu123:12
ari-tczewI need this for fix FTBFS.23:12
cjwatsonari-tczew: no23:17
cjwatsonari-tczew: I uploaded the package - I should not also process it through NEW23:17
ari-tczewhard process23:22
cjwatsonjust sensible23:22
cjwatsondon't review your own work23:23

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