=== _nertil is now known as nertil [00:07] where in KDE do i config that alt-tab just access desktop1? [00:08] nerdy_kid: there is no native dock other than the bar in KDE [00:12] RoDiMuS-X: no, but the bar can be made to look like a dock. [00:16] anyone? [00:16] know where the place is [00:17] do you mean; desktop 1, even on every other desktops, or the active desktop? [00:18] KimLaRoux, i have desktop1 and 2 [00:18] KimLaRoux, i mean projector and desktop [00:18] KimLaRoux, when i watch moveies and press alt-tab u know [00:19] so you have like a dual screen [00:19] dont want that window to switch [00:19] yes [00:19] twinview [00:19] ah, tricky [00:19] nvidia card? [00:19] yes [00:19] KimLaRoux, it's annoying [00:19] using what output for the projector? [00:19] KimLaRoux, mm vpdau [00:20] hhmm, I don't even know what vpdau is =P [00:20] heh [00:20] xv? then? [00:20] neither [00:21] lol [00:21] I meant, hardware... VGA, DVI, S-vid? [00:21] do you have a real twin-head card or is one output simply a tv-out [00:22] KimLaRoux, dvi-hdmi [00:22] Ah, technology... I forgot about those [00:22] there should be some kindo setting [00:23] well, I know there's a way in nvidia panel under windows to setup one out as pure video; the video from any player in any screen is piped through the tv-out [00:24] I'd be amazed if such a feat was feasible under linux [00:24] meh [00:25] what about setting up the other head as a different desktop? [00:25] instead of an extended one [00:25] I know this can be done [00:28] does anyone know a good graphing program for linux? :\ [00:28] the gimp [00:28] Especially one that knows trig functions... :) [00:28] oh you mean [00:28] calculcator? [00:28] Yush XD [00:28] sorry bout confuzzlation :P [00:29] ExtCalc [00:29] Genius Math Tools [00:29] Speedcrunch [00:29] Thanks :D [00:29] those are the 4 I use [00:29] they are in apt [00:30] 3* [00:30] Tan functions confuse me so much ;-; [00:31] I find it most interesting [00:31] it's a simple sin/cos === root is now known as Guest64924 [00:34] how do you find the asymptotes when the function transforms? [00:35] the asymptotes are the lines where there is no X [00:35] Ah... [00:35] =) [00:36] the lines of the function follows them, up and down, but never actually reach them [00:44] Arrgg so many crashy apps! [00:45] welcome to 10.10 [00:45] no kidding [00:45] =) [00:45] switched from debian Sid to Kubuntu, much moar crashy now [00:45] last time I'm updating to anything else than an LTS =P === mike is now known as Guest4052 [00:46] how do you do pi in Genius and extcalc? [00:48] type pi [00:48] lol [00:49] Gives me an error :( [00:49] Call of 'pi' with the wrong number of arguments! [00:49] (should be 0) [00:49] Call of 'pi' with the wrong number of arguments! [00:49] (should be 0) [00:49] Call of 'pi' with the wrong number of arguments! [00:49] Glaivlen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [00:51] Glaivlen: pi() ? [00:51] yes, you have to use () very often, they prefer those [00:51] pi(barnas) [00:53] why do you need pi in the grap? [00:53] nvm === fuku is now known as Fuku [00:54] witam [00:55] hello [00:55] are u here? [01:03] I am here [01:05] hi [01:06] hello === irielfaid is now known as MatebroMorral === MatebroMorral is now known as irielfaid === robin is now known as Guest23749 [01:52] hey does anyone know what the channel is where i can ask question about ubuntu? [01:54] #ubuntu [01:57] * KimLaRoux kills amarok with a spork. === gary_ is now known as Guest31911 === root is now known as Guest50814 === Diziara is now known as HuntingKitten [02:53] has anyone tried to get BuGle working in 10.10? [02:53] I can't get it to compile. [02:56] palodequeso what are the errors? [02:56] moetunes: one second [02:56] build/gcc_gcc_gl_glx_x11_posix_release/budgielib/lib.c:38534: error: too many arguments to function ‘(GLuint (*)(GLuint, GLsizei, GLenum *, GLuint *, GLuint *, GLsizei *, GLchar *))budgie_function_address_real(603)’ [02:57] palodequeso: that looks like the app wasn't written right... [02:58] hmm, do you know of any other opengl debugging software? [02:58] so far, I've been writing my own, building it into my application, but this offers such rapid information [02:58] nope sorry [02:58] okey dokey, thanks anyway :) === HuntingKitten is now known as Diziara === root is now known as Guest99223 === leonidas_ is now known as Guest83911 === Freejack is now known as Freejack` === root is now known as Guest38364 [04:26] Hello, I have done a fresh install of kubuntu 10.10 and have been experiencing troubles. Programs open slowly, more than three porcesses running at once and it grinds to a halt, internet connection on Firefox and Opera work sometimes and sometimes not both wireless and ethernet, Very slow to switch between windows, etc. On the suggestion of someone here, I reinstalled KDE with no noticable effect. I have tried creating a new user, [04:26] nothing. Do I need to just burn a new disk and start from scratch? I can't really afford to have my laptop down any longer. [04:28] does anyone know how to get an apple bluetooth keyboard/magic mouse to work under 10.10? the installer works fine, and if i boot linux with safe mode and drop to a shell, the keyboard works, but on normal boot, at the kdm login screen, neither device will work. so i'm guessing something to do with whatever bluetooth manager kde is using is screwing up the pairing or omsething [04:41] I guess I'll try back later. [04:43] hi all.. [04:45] does anybody know why does alsa-driver 1.0.23 is newer than 1.0.9..? [05:07] or are you here seawing? [05:08] good morning kubuntites [05:08] i started working on fixing my overclocking problems last night anyone here familiar with cpu frequency adjustment on Kubuntu? [05:10] Unfortunately, CPU frequency scaling can currently only be monitored on Linux machines that have support in the kernel. [05:10] i have suppot, and thats acutally the problem [05:11] explain [05:11] processor is overclocked at 3.6 [05:11] cpu reports capabilities that are put into the stepping [05:12] Kubuntu obeys stepping and runs max at 3.0 [05:12] dmidecode -t processor shows tru speed, while cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq [05:12] show stepping speed [05:13] i need to know what the governor is for Kubuntu so I can get it to either quit interfering or manipulate it [05:13] Install cpufreq-selector with SUID root [05:15] being a part of the cpufreq utils package i would imagine? [05:17] In your Ubuntu [05:17] , you can easily switch your CPU frequency via the CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor Gnome-applets. [05:17] http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-control-your-cpu-frequency-in-ubuntu/2009/04/10 [05:18] lol gnome applet it KDE? [05:18] get it going in gnome desktop then instal lkde after the fact? [05:18] and no it would not work, because the max the applet will allow is set in the /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq [05:19] eh [05:19] now i could echo into the max frew [05:19] freq [05:19] the cpufreutils do not work as their is no user space [05:19] previosuly I would disable cpu throttling in Debian Sid and that was good enough [05:21] do you have the file /etc/con.d/cpufreq ? [05:21] do you have the file /etc/conf.d/cpufreq ? [05:21] no [05:22] i see [05:23] i would have to add the cpufreq deamon i believe. but i dont want it to conflict with the current cpu manager (which is working BTW) [05:24] could try it anyway.... [05:24] lol now it jumped to 3 GHZ and stays there [05:25] i wonder if i can move my 3.4HT to 3.6 or higher? [05:25] whats HT? [05:25] hyper threading [05:25] oh i see [05:25] in a way its like an early dual core [05:26] set cpu overclock in bios [05:26] nice fat one [05:26] then get it to work in the machine [05:26] i wonder if its easier to tweak fsb and the ram [05:26] mine is a late run of my processor, so intel was getting perfect cores, but making them different to have different price points [05:27] that way i knowmine is a underclocked 3.6 [05:27] so i should run it at 3.6 [05:27] and have for years [05:27] not sure if the prescotts were like that or not [05:27] but its blazing fast wit h4 gigs of ddr2 [05:27] sweet. i gotta reboot BRB [05:28] hi [05:28] anyone with drupal here [05:33] is Kubuntu using apt or aptitude? [05:34] dang need to reboot again! purged files [05:39] westyvw: aptitude is (like all the debian/ubuntu package managers) just a wrapper around apt [05:39] frogonwheels: once you aptitude you dont go back [05:40] frogonwheels: seriously, if a system is set up with aptiture you dont switch back to apt, you need to know [05:41] westyvw: I dunno why - I use apt-get install when I need to - but generally use aptitude for upgrading stuff [05:44] ah crap i gotta get higher permissions then sudo to echo to /sys/devices [05:44] now i gotta set up a root user [05:44] unless someone can tell me another way [05:44] westyvw: sudo -s ? [05:45] permission denied [05:45] .. just sudo -s [05:45] AH! [05:45] thanks [05:45] np [05:45] i didnt know you could do that [05:45] :) [05:46] ACK! still permission denied! [05:46] westyvw: presumably you're echoing to things you shouldn't be [05:47] UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn [05:48] westyvw: ok - but we're talking /sys so it's a pseudo filesystem - so sometimes you just can't do things in there! [05:48] frogonwheels: yeah i know. I just want to echo in a new maxfrequency [05:49] westyvw: :) well obviously there's no feedback from the maxfrequency to actaully doing a system change [05:49] this is a fresh install i am messing with it to find the answer then reinstall anyways, so it should be good [05:49] http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_make_use_of_Dynamic_Frequency_Scaling [05:51] so you're using scaling_setspeed ?? looks like this requires some kernel options enabled (guses they should be tho) [05:51] After recent upgrade, mozilla and vlc window have changed to like this - http://imagebin.ca/view/oBwKKre.html http://imagebin.ca/view/IgE-zNsl.html What can be wrong? [05:53] frogonwheels: lowerdown in the page you can see editing the values manually using the sys interface. Already tried adding my own governers, but its not the way to go === acidburn is now known as Guest6208 [06:12] westyvw: did you set your governor to userspace ? [06:12] no not yet [06:13] you might want to try that - suspect that's why you can't change your speed [06:13] would i need to add or change any freq demon? [06:13] ok i will edit sys.cong [06:13] ok i will edit sys.conf [06:13] just echo userspace > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_govenor [06:13] afaics [06:14] "If you are using the userspace governor, you can write to /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_setspeed ...." the relevent words being 'IF' , 'userspace' and 'govenor' [06:17] wionder why i wouldnt have to do that to both cores? [06:18] one is linked to the other [06:18] brb reboot [06:18] have a look at cpu1s' cpufreq folder [06:22] a nice little script I use to change the cpu freq - http://pastebin.com/pDTVnrhB [06:30] even editing sys control isnot setting the sys devices [06:34] I thought sysctl worked on /proc/sys files not /sys... [06:34] sorry sysfs.conf [06:38] are you loading the userspace module? === jason is now known as Guest68138 [07:45] is there an alternative to adobe flash? [07:46] html5 ? :) [07:46] sorry could not resist [07:46] !flash [07:46] To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also !Restricted and !Gnash [07:46] :) np. [07:47] i tried gnash but i got a crash bug alert, and am currently letting the packager dl the debugging symbols to send back. [07:48] gnash never worked for me here [07:48] it will take 18 minutes for all the packages. is that about right with a low end broadband connection? [07:48] for the debugging packages that is [07:49] depends on the size of the download and your speed... [07:50] regardless of the stupid things i have done in root, i have used kubuntu consistently all semester. :) [07:52] i havent had the chance to fill out a crash handler alert before, so it is pretty exciting. [07:52] heh I wouldn't call it exciting :) [07:57] hello can i ask some one something for a sec ? [07:58] i dont think i have a major problem but i can fix it my self [07:59] any one ??? [08:00] just ask already if someone can awnser they will [08:00] grateremo: you have to say what the issue is :) [08:02] well my issue is that i am trying to update my kubuntu from 10.04 to 10.10 and when its done installing to the HD it wont load after i restart my computer [08:03] what do you mean about it not loading? [08:03] stuck at grub? [08:04] no it gets past my computers bios and just shows a blinking line and hangs there [08:04] sounds like it didn't install grub [08:05] have you got a live cd? [08:05] all i did was download the dvd ver of kubuntu 10.10 [08:07] Do you know linux aka you want command line fix or do you want to click fix? [08:08] http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html [08:08] dont matter to me but i have no were to type a command in [08:09] thats why the live cd Question [08:09] i can run off the cd if i have to [08:09] above link shows you how to fix [08:09] ok thanks [08:10] command line just boot goto konsole mount drive, chroot and do a grub-install [08:11] ok and another thing i would like to know befor i install this is how do i change the root password ?? [08:12] sudo passwd in a terminal [08:12] ok thanks thats all i need to know for to night [08:12] sudo passwd root [08:12] but you need to know the original one [08:12] thats fine [08:12] !supportroot [08:12] We do not support having a root password set. See !root and !wfm for more information. [08:13] but thanks again [08:13] good night [08:13] elimental: grateremo, please see above [08:26] ok i have every thing working on my computer now but i still have the same problem that i had in 10.04 which is i can load my gt 220 nvidia driver [08:29] hello ??? [08:30] with multiple monitors, who can I tell which monitor should be the 'master' with the taskbar. I can't set the master to "absolute" position but I can't put the "secondary" on "Above". The opposite is possible tought (which I don't want) [09:33] anyone here? [09:33] how do i alt-tab without the twin view screen 2 [09:34] err what do you want to do? [09:36] wilhart: you can alt-tab by pressing the alt key and the tab key :P [09:36] heh [10:12] After recent upgrade,vlc window has changed to like this - http://imagebin.ca/view/oBwKKre.html What can be wrong? [10:12] Why that black bold line? [10:12] [10:12] sresu: I think that's where the content is supposed to go (in non-fullscreen mode) [10:13] amichair, No it was not like that before [10:13] amichair: Do you use vlc? [10:14] yep [10:14] That's not much of a problem but why mozilla - http://imagebin.ca/view/IgE-zNsl.html ?? [10:14] currently 1.1.4 [10:14] Did you see the change in the mozilla window as well? [10:14] Heya, i have a DNS related problem on ubuntu, can point me in the right direction? [10:15] Ced_: Ubuntu or Kubuntu distro? [10:15] sresu: I don't (FF is quite customizable, so mine might look different in any case) [10:15] amichair: No able to understand why it became dull [10:16] sresu: Ubuntu, but the problem is not gnome or KDE related [10:17] Ced_: For DNS you must contact your ISP, I suppose [10:17] sresu: my vlc as of a recent upgrade shows the construction cone in the middle of the video screen when not playing (it used to be just black). but I think it's all in the configuration somewhere. [10:17] amichair: Yeah, I will find that out.. [10:17] sresu: No, we have a local DNS server, which we can ping on IP, but not on hostname, we can however, nslookup the IP on the hostname, which makes no sense [10:17] amichair: But, what about mozilla? [10:17] Even Reverse lookup works [10:18] sresu: I can't tell how it looked like before the change in your case, so hard to say [10:18] Hold on.. I'll link the image...amichair [10:21] Ced_: Have you tried asking in #ubuntu [10:22] Yes, everyone ignored me :P [10:22] Maybe i should ask in #bind, if there is any, or something similar [10:23] It's a really odd problem [10:24] ping 192.168.30.132 works, ping dc01.combi.local fails, nslookup dc01.combi.local works, nslookup 192.168.30.132 works (reverse lookup) [10:27] Does anyone know a channel i should try? [10:28] Ced_: erhaps #networking [10:28] Perhaps* [10:28] I'll try [10:28] thanks [10:33] amichair: No, its fine.. Thanks :) [10:35] sresu: :) [10:36] hello all [10:37] have a problem on a customers kubuntu 10.04... if he want delete/ move a file to trash, dolphin shows a information that trash is full.. but trash isn't full.. have also checked in ~/.local/share/Trash/files and ~/.local/share/trash/info.. they are empty.. [10:37] any idea?.. [10:38] noaXess: any chance the disk/partition/quota is full? or it actually says there's something in the trash? [10:39] noaXess: or is he using the root account [10:39] amichair: no.. 1TB and about 102GB used.. so enough free space [10:39] not using root acount.. [10:40] of i crate a file over konsole with vi test.txt, write in some text, save it and then delete it, no problem [10:40] just inside kde [10:40] noaXess: deleting in konsole doesn't go through Trash, as far as I know [10:41] noaXess: can you post the exact error you're seeing? [10:41] amichair: it's in german.. wait.. [10:42] thunderbird has also problems to write files to the disc.. hm.. [10:43] but that can be another problem [10:43] noaXess: maybe u can start by running a disk check (fsck) [10:44] ok, message in german: Der Mülleimer hat seine maximale Grösse erreicht. Bitte leeren Sie ihn von Hand... thats says that the trash's size is a max and i need to empty it manually.. but the trash is empty [10:44] it might be permissions on the home dir or ownership [10:44] if i delete a file directly with shift+del.. that works [10:44] hm... [10:44] let me check [10:45] creating files in home works fine [10:45] just move them to trash [10:46] noaXess: another possibility, go to dolphin's Trash settings, make sure the limits are ok [10:46] amichair: allready checked [10:46] 1% of 1TB should be enough [10:47] permissions on trash: http://paste.ubuntu.com/524361/ [10:48] found a solution.. have deleted the content of ~/.local/share/Trash/ and recreated ~/.local/share/Trash/files and ~/.local/share/Trash/info.. now moving to trash works [10:49] noaXess: good solution! [10:50] permissions after: http://paste.ubuntu.com/524363/ [10:52] noaXess: I don't have the additional permissions here... but if it fixed the problem, that's good enough :-) [10:52] amichair: yeah.. now fix the problem with thunderbird.. on fetching mails, i get a write permission error.. seams that there are alos permission problems in tb's profile fodler [10:52] fodler [10:52] hi, just a newbie question...what is the best email client for a dual-boot environment? (windows7 and kubuntu 10.10) [10:52] aaaa.. folder.. sorry [10:53] thunderbird [10:54] yuvankumar: I used Thunderbird on windows back in the day, and now use it in kubuntu. I never used them both concurrently to access the same local mailbox, though. if you're using e.g. IMAP, it should be ok. [10:55] noaXess: maybe a rogue recursive chmod at some point caused the problems? [10:55] thx guys, yeah...was wondering how i could set it up so that it can be shared from linux and windows [10:55] amichair: don't know... the customer is not familiar with this.. hm.. [10:56] yuvankumar: don't do that.. cuase different filesystem types and permissions... [10:56] yuvankumar: depends on how your mail is set up. IMAP or gmail or similar mail configuration which can leave the mail on the server, is probably the easiest and safest solution [10:57] yuvankumar: although theoretically it should be possible to put a local mail directory on the windows/NTFS side and access it also from linux... but you should make a backup and/or test it a bunch to make sure it's a stable configuration [10:58] amichair: thunderbird solved.. was a mail-server imap problem.. mailbox quota ;).. informed the customer.. [10:58] i'll setup thunderbird on kubuntu first, and see if i can get it to work from windows [10:58] thx for the advice guys! [10:58] noaXess: that's 2 for 2 for you! ;-) [10:59] yuvankumar: windows will not be able to access ext2/3/4 partitions (most common in linux) out of the box [11:00] yuvankumar: but k/ubuntu can access NTFS with no problem [11:00] thats true, forgot abt that [11:00] so it's simpler to put shared stuff on the NTFS side [11:00] amichair: yeah.. bbs.. lunchtime.. [11:01] yuvankumar: (but you can still start playing around on the linux side, just configure the data files to be on the NTFS drive somewhere) [11:03] can i use dolphin to acccess the ntfs files? coz i didn't allocate any ntfs space for kubuntu during installation [11:03] i mean, can i access my windows files using dolphin? [11:05] cool! just found out i can [11:05] yuvankumar: yes, I have some NTFS partitions and they show up in dolphin (and the rest of the system) as just another device [11:32] hey does anyone know why gpg can decrypt mail in kmail but i can't encrypt or sign [11:32] i tried a number of things including https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KMailGPGAgent [11:34] including maing a gpg-aget.conf file [11:34] agent === Kalidarn1 is now known as Kalidarn === Kalidarn is now known as zz_Kalidarn === MuzerAway is now known as Muzer === _nertil is now known as nertil === zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn === Kalidarn is now known as zz_Kalidarn [12:38] please help. how to use windows boot loader as defualt boot loader instead of Grub. i am new to kubuntu. [12:39] windows doesnt have a bootloader [12:39] they dont share [12:39] thier boot loader only boots windose [12:41] Thank you elimental. [12:41] so there is no other chance. right? [12:41] I have a single hard disk n i have installed xp n kubuntu in it [12:41] If you want to edit grub to default to windows that you can do [12:42] now i have got an extra harddisk. But the problem is tht after connectin the new hard disk, my pc doesnt boot. plese help me [12:43] I have a single hard disk n i have installed xp n kubuntu in it. now i have got an extra harddisk. But the problem is tht after connectin the new hard disk, my pc doesnt boot. plese help me [12:44] you need to select the other disk as the boot disk in the bios [12:50] uh, where are the kubuntu iso downloads? i want the metalink, but the download page only has torrents [12:51] LjL: mm? [12:51] LjL: Metalink? [12:51] just a moment [12:51] LjL: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download#download-block [12:52] Pici: a metalink is something that includes information about servers (and torrents) from which to download something. it can be used by software such as "aria2" (which i recommend, always wondered why it wasn't being given in #ubuntu-release-party). http://metalinker.org - metalinks are always on releases.ubuntu.com === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway [12:54] Peace-: because there is that "Donload now" button instead of a plain link, i can't find out where the file is actually located, and reach for the metalink in the directory (if there is one) :\ [12:56] LjL: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/10.10/ [12:56] Pici: thanks :) [12:56] LjL: np. === sorgen is now known as Kio-Tokio === muesli_ is now known as muesli [13:22] Howdy [13:24] BluesKaj: hi [13:25] hi geekosopher [13:26] good evening, that is if you are around India :) [13:29] nope , Canada here [13:30] nope italy here [13:30] xD [13:30] good evening geekosopher [13:30] good evening all [13:30] very good evening subhashish , hows diwali celebrations? [13:31] um will buy crackers around tomorrow or day after [13:31] how about u? [13:31] !offtopic | subhashish [13:31] subhashish: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! [13:32] yes [13:32] Peace-: sorry, he was just answering my question :) [13:33] geekosopher, pm? [13:33] sure [13:44] HI , does anyone know how to fix the graphic performance on KDE 4.5 (kubuntu 10.10) for Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller [13:45] Hey guys. I wonder if it is possible to change the blue glow/shadow around windows to maybe a dark-grey or black color? [13:45] ChrisBuchholz: i guess yea [13:46] systemsettings [13:46] Peace-: yeah? [13:46] any ideas ? [13:46] if it takes few i will give some tip ChrisBuchholz [13:46] Peace-: okay, i guess :P [13:47] ChrisBuchholz: ok system settings [13:47] desktop [13:47] go in effetcs [13:47] yeah [13:47] use the filter [13:47] shadow [13:47] Peace-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [13:47]