[00:08] <zebastianortis> ( www.freedomainradio.com ) I have a problem, I installed lubuntu and I can't find the necessary keyboard layout configuration settings, namely I need a pan-scandinavian keyboard for icelandic, one that allows me to accent every vowel, how can i get this?
[00:10] <Timo_> what's the website link for?
[00:14] <zebastianortis> the greatest philosophical conversation in the world, giving an understanding of why everything is broken and how you can break free, but I still dont know how to change my keyboard language to icelandic
[00:30] <phillw> zebastianortis: the only way to modify the keyboard layout with a GUI is to install lxkeymap, it's in the Lubuntu PPA for 10.10
[00:31] <zebastianortis> sudo apt-get what?
[00:31]  * phillw phew, that some digging up :)
[00:32] <phillw> have you got the ppa?
[00:32] <zebastianortis> how do i check from the cli
[00:32] <phillw> or even, are you running 10.10?
[00:32] <zebastianortis> yes
[00:33] <szczur> sudo apt-get install lxkeymap
[00:34] <phillw> zebastianortis: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa && sudo apt-get update
[00:34] <phillw> thanks szczur  I was just coming to call you :D
[00:34] <zebastianortis> can you modify that though
[00:34] <zebastianortis> i typed sudo bash and entered my pw at the begining
[00:35] <szczur> phillw, i  won't be helpful today :)
[00:35] <phillw> zebastianortis: lxkeymap is for mapping keyboards :)
[00:35] <szczur> gaah not here
[00:35]  * szczur facepalms
[01:01] <zebastianortis> takka Þér fyrir
[01:02] <zebastianortis> ( / www.schoolsucksproject.com )
[01:02] <zebastianortis> bless
[01:29] <Slurpee> Has anyone ever dealt with BPAV folders?
[01:52] <phillw> !pastebin
[03:11] <ghostnik11> how can i enable quicksearch bar to work in synaptic package manager in lubuntu 10.10 as it is grayed out
[03:15] <phillw> ghostnik11: it was a design decision to disable it by default because or the extra resources it uses
[03:15] <ghostnik11> i got, it sorry about that just had to type: sudo apt-get install apt-xapian-index
[03:16] <phillw> ghostnik11: you may also need sudo apt-get install libept-dev
[03:16] <ghostnik11> phillw: okay will do that right now
[03:17] <phillw> if you just click on the magnifying galss to the right, you can use the inbuilt search.
[03:17] <phillw> *glass*
[03:17] <ghostnik11> phillw: okay, well i am installing right now the libept-dev
[03:18] <ghostnik11> so i should get the quicksearch bar back
[03:18] <phillw> ghostnik11: yeah, you may have to log off and back on for it take effect though.
[03:19] <ghostnik11> phillw: okay, thats cool as long as i get it to work
[03:20] <phillw> ghostnik11: do pop back on and let me know, I'm waiting to write it up on our documents area.
[03:21] <ghostnik11> okay, should i do a full restart to make sure
[03:21] <ghostnik11> or the log out and log back on is good enough
[03:21] <phillw> log off and on should be enough, if that does not work then do a reboot. let me know which one works.
[03:25] <ghostnik11> phillw: it works but it seems like it doesn't when i actually type something in the quick search bar
[03:25] <phillw> ghostnik11: hmmm..... what happens?
[03:26] <ghostnik11> phillw: for ex. in my ubuntu 10.04 when i type something in quicksearch bar in synaptic it eliminates based on the letters in the quick search bar but in lubuntu 10.10 on my dell optiplex gx240 nothing changes, for ex. i typed ftp and i expected to see ftp show up first but nothing changed
[03:27] <phillw> JoeMaverickSett: COME HERE !!!!!!!
[03:28] <JoeMaverickSett> phillw: i'm here! :'(
[03:28] <ghostnik11> phillw: the synaptic does blink once and the the mouse cursor changes to the time watch indicating the computer is reading but nothing occurs
[03:28] <ghostnik11> phillw: will test agian right now to see if i get the same result for third time
[03:29] <ghostnik11> phillw: it works,
[03:29] <JoeMaverickSett> ghostnik11: so it's solved now? yes? :D
[03:29] <phillw> ghostnik11: JoeMaverickSett can reset his VNC,
[03:30] <ghostnik11> phillw: i don't get it, after the log out and log back in it didn't work tried 2 then i closed it told you about it and then opened it again and now it works on 3rd and 4th attempt
[03:30] <JoeMaverickSett> phillw: i've apt-xapian-index, libept1 and libept-dev if that helps. :D
[03:30] <JoeMaverickSett> ghostnik11: ^
[03:30] <phillw> ghostnik11: it does take up resources, which is why it was disabled by default.
[03:30] <JoeMaverickSett> i never needed to log in log out, just close the synaptic manager and open it agian, it works.
[03:31] <JoeMaverickSett> ghostnik11: ^
[03:31] <ghostnik11> phillw: well its perfect now, maybe it was because of my network and not the computer the first 2 attempts
[03:31] <JoeMaverickSett> phillw: can i go now? :D
[03:32]  * phillw removes the death sentance from JoeMaverickSett
[03:32]  * JoeMaverickSett *sighs*!
[03:32] <phillw> ghostnik11: I threatened to kill him if his instructions broke your computer :D
[03:33]  * JoeMaverickSett thanks ghostnik11 's computer and lubuntu! ;D
[03:33] <ghostnik11> phillw: i have lubuntu now it can't break, the best thing since the invention of butter and bread
[03:35] <phillw> ghostnik11: pop onto #lubuntu-offtopic  It's just a general chat area
[03:36] <ghostnik11> phillw: okay cool
[03:49] <phillw> !pastebin
[10:00] <head_victim> Is Glenn or Zoltan from the mailing list around at the moment?
[12:55] <llogiq> Can someone give me a hint which Lubuntu 10.04 package contains the alsa headers (as used in lxpanel/src/plugins/volumealsa)?
[12:59] <llogiq> Or where else I can get it?
[14:33] <llogiq> Ah, it seems to be libasound2-dev
[14:39] <bioterror> are u compiling something?
[14:50]  * llogiq compiles lxpanel.
[14:51] <bioterror> install checkinstall
[14:51] <bioterror> before make install
[14:51] <bioterror> it will make a ,deb and use dpkg
[14:51] <llogiq> Also does aqualung play mono only for anyone else? I get sound only on the right headphone, while with mplayer plays in stereo.
[14:53] <llogiq> bioterror, oops, just installed anyway.
[14:53]  * llogiq apt-gets checkinstall.
[14:53] <bioterror> that way you can remove and install it on another etc
[14:54] <bioterror> if u know what i mean
[14:54] <bioterror> if you do make install
[14:54] <bioterror> removing that lxpanel is more difficult
[14:56] <bioterror> away i go, laters
[15:05] <llogiq> Does anyone else here use aqualung?
[16:11] <phillw> !language
[16:19] <llogiq> phillw, that is always a good idea, not only in this channel...
[16:23] <phillw> llogiq: it's available on any channel with a ubot
[16:24] <phillw> but is also covered in our Terms and conditions when you log on here or #lubuntu-offtopic :)
[16:30] <llogiq> phillw, do you listen to audio on Lubuntu? And if so, what program do you use?
[17:41] <NativeAngels> hello
[18:02] <NativeAngels> hello
[18:03] <bioterror> hi
[18:03] <NativeAngels> what is lubuntu like on old hardware
[18:03] <bioterror> depends
[18:04] <bioterror> might be fast, might be the best option
[18:04] <NativeAngels> an old dell latitude
[18:04] <bioterror> what's old dell latitude
[18:04] <bioterror> D600?
[18:04] <NativeAngels> l400
[18:05] <bioterror> Pentium 3
[18:05] <bioterror> go for it
[18:05] <bioterror> it will be fast
[18:07] <NativeAngels> what speed should i burn it at
[18:09] <bioterror> FULL SPEED! ;D
[18:09] <bioterror> faster you burn, faster you get to use lubuntu
[18:09] <bioterror> ;)
[18:10] <NativeAngels> ive tried zenwalk on it but its so long winded
[18:10] <bioterror> you didnt find zen from that walk?
[18:11] <NativeAngels> not quite
[18:11] <bioterror> few zenwalk dev's moved to their own Salix OS project
[18:11] <NativeAngels> i tried that also but the dell dont like it
[18:12] <NativeAngels> ive also looked at pepermintos but again it gets stuck
[18:13] <bioterror> hahaha
[18:13] <bioterror> there's no idea in that
[18:13] <bioterror> mint already has lxde version
[18:13] <bioterror> "but this one is cloude oriented!";D
[18:14] <NativeAngels> lets see it lubuntu detects the wireless card
[18:14] <bioterror> what kind of card you have?
[18:14] <NativeAngels> trendnet
[18:14] <NativeAngels> pimcia
[18:15] <mir1> hi! could someone please point me to the sound configuration in lubuntu?
[18:18] <bioterror> mir1, what's your problem?
[18:20] <mir1> i have no sound
[18:20] <bioterror> what says "lspci"?
[18:21] <mir1> Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs [SB Live! Value] EMU10k1X
[18:22] <mir1> and Input device controller: Creative Labs [SB Live! Value] Input device controller (but I haven't tried the microphone yet)
[18:23] <mir1> alsamixer seems to have the card correct (Dell SOund Blaster Live!)
[18:24] <bioterror> hmmm
[18:26] <bioterror> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/658951
[18:27] <mir1> aha
[18:28] <NativeAngels> ok wireless card detected
[18:29] <NativeAngels> now lets see how long for full install
[18:29] <bioterror> Changing two things in the /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf file and then kicking alsa (restart alsa, altho im not sure what kick it really needs alsa-utils restart / alsa-utils reset, try whatever or reboot)
[18:29] <bioterror> defaults.pcm.compat 0
[18:29] <bioterror> defaults.pcm.minperiodtime 5000 # in us
[18:29] <bioterror> remove those two things from that file and kick alsa and things will work again, digital and analog output both work again on my sblive value.
[18:30] <bioterror> Well, I may have been wrong about what fixed what exactly. Just to push the issue further, I added back those config options and rebooted and everything is still working.
[18:30] <bioterror> I can only guess at this point, that it was enough of the alsa-utils reset / alsact store alsa-utils restart that kicked the cards settings back into the right place.
[18:30] <bioterror> interesting :D
[18:31] <mir1> hmmm, done it, but it didn't work, so i'll reboot
[18:31] <mir1> back in a tick!
[18:33] <mir1> jaysus lubuntu is quick to restart
[18:34] <bioterror> yeah
[18:34] <mir1> but still no sound...
[18:34] <mir1> back in a (longer) tick, i'm just going to check windows partition to see if it has sound (maybe someones naffed up the speakers since I last used it)
[18:45] <mir1> bioterror: more pressing problem now: grub's got no windows boot option and there's no /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[18:46] <bioterror> really
[18:46] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install os-prober
[18:46] <bioterror> sudo os-prober
[18:46] <bioterror> sudo grub-update
[18:47] <mir1> it can't find the grub-update command, which package is that in?
[18:47] <bioterror> gilir, os-prober should be added to basic installation
[18:47] <bioterror> update-grub
[18:47] <Mohan_chml> MichealH, are you in Lubuntu 10.10?
[18:48] <Mohan_chml> aww mir1*
[18:48] <Mohan_chml> bioterror, do not reverse update-grub ;)
[18:49] <mir1> still not menu.lst, has that been moved or something?
[18:49] <Mohan_chml> mir1, the GRUB files got changed from menu.lst to grub.cfg after 9.04
[18:49] <mir1> o...
[18:49] <Mohan_chml> look for /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[18:49] <mir1> thanks
[18:49] <Mohan_chml> yw =]
[18:50] <mir1> brb, windoze
[18:51] <Mohan_chml> mir1, wait
[18:51] <Mohan_chml> lol
[18:51] <Mohan_chml> late
[18:51] <bioterror> :D
[18:52] <bioterror> you're too slow
[18:52] <Mohan_chml> :o
[18:54] <mir1> ok, windows has a _lot_ of sound, since i turned the speakers up... :-s
[19:04] <mir1> bioterror: got it, thanks for your help, it was a setting to the far far right of alsamixer
[19:06] <bioterror> okay
[19:22] <head_victim> gilir: great idea for a place to put things (releasenotes). I'll move things across later on today when I get home from work.
[19:24] <gilir> head_victim, that's the goal of the release notes :)
[19:25] <head_victim> Yeah sorry I'm not overly technical so I forget the basics on that end. I'm a bit like phillw more able to do documentation and admin work. Happy to be told how to make things better though.
[19:25] <head_victim> Alright, work calls. I'll see you in about 14 hours ;)
[20:05] <mir1> bioterror: i can't get the music player(s) to make sound, but i can see they are playing since the graphic equaliser is moving. I saw the audio output option in mplayer, it is set to "alsa", but I tried "pulse" and the others. websites have sounds, and mplayer in the terminal also doesn't work so it isn't gnome gunking it up. any ideas?
[20:06] <bioterror> if you go to youtube, you get sounds?
[20:07] <mir1> yep
[20:08] <bioterror> players are messed up then
[20:09] <szczur> use moc :)
[20:09] <Timo_> hi!
[20:09] <szczur> hi Timo_
[20:09] <szczur> 'sup?
[20:09] <bioterror> szczur, says the words of wisdom
[20:10] <Timo_> :D
[20:10] <Timo_> doing good
[20:10] <Timo_> and how r u guys?
[20:10] <bioterror> tired
[20:10] <szczur> very good :)
[20:11] <szczur> mir1, or i recommend Audacious
[20:11] <szczur> too
[20:11] <szczur> because moc is the most awesome :)
[20:12] <szczur> however it is terminal based
[20:12] <mir1> tried it just now, it doesn't work
[20:12] <szczur> so some people may not like this
[20:12] <szczur> hmm :/
[20:12] <szczur> weird
[20:12] <mir1> (this install is for my mum, i'm taking a risk giving her linux, but XP SP£ is killing her computer)
[20:12] <mir1> terminal will not go down well
[20:12] <mir1> :-p
[20:12] <mir1> but i like it
[20:13] <szczur> deadbeef
[20:13] <mir1> i think the problem is less the choice of player and more the problem that none of them are owrking
[20:14] <szczur> i know, but maybe some will work :P
[20:18] <mir1> hmm alsamixer doesn't seem to be altering the sound level of the youtube video. i ran "alsamixer" and changed the master volume - this should change my volume right?
[20:18] <szczur> try changing the PCM
[20:19] <mir1> o yeah, that works
[20:19] <mir1> :-)
[20:19] <friTTe|> =)
[20:19] <friTTe|> now go install Deadbeef for mum
[20:19] <friTTe|> and add all her music
[20:19] <mir1> means alsa in in charge of the audio, so why won't audio palyers make sound?
[21:18] <hallo> 'ello people
[21:19] <szczur> hey hi hallo
[21:19] <szczur> :)
[21:19] <hallo> so...i've got a little problem...how do i install ati drivers? :D
[21:21] <Timo_> hallo: you wanna use the 'hardware drivers' application
[21:21] <Timo_> I think
[21:21] <Timo_> or doesn't it detect the drivers?
[21:22] <hallo> Timo_ when i start Additional Drivers it doesn't detect the drivers
[21:24] <hallo> i've installed Ubuntu Software Center and when i search "ati" is shows me that Additional Drivers (jockey-gtk) is installed
[21:24] <Timo_> yes
[21:24] <Timo_> well the program is installed, but it just doesn't detect your drivers
[21:25] <Timo_> so we might need to install them by hand
[21:25] <Timo_> what vid card do you use?
[21:27] <hallo> ati radeon 9550
[21:28] <Timo_> alright
[21:35] <Timo_> let me check for you
[21:36] <Timo_> okay
[21:36] <Timo_> open up a terminal
[21:37] <Timo_> hallo: and type this in it:
[21:37] <Timo_> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[21:37] <MichealH> Mohan_chml: Nope, But Id like to help
[21:59] <hallo> Timo_ it sais there is no package with this name...and that this package was replaced by "fglrx"
[22:00] <hallo> sorry for the delay...i was on the phone :D
[22:00] <hallo> so...should i go sudo apt-get install fglrx ?
[22:05] <hblount> hi. i am trying to tether my android smartphone to my lubuntu laptop for mobile broadband. i got this link that shows it for Ubuntu and i tried it, but it doesnt work. does this not work lubuntu or did i just do something wrong? link: http://www.humans-enabled.com/2009/12/how-to-tether-your-verizon-droid-as.html
[23:00] <NativeAngels> hello
[23:01] <mark76> Hi
[23:02] <NativeAngels> finishing an install on an old dell latitude
[23:03] <mark76> Goodo
[23:03] <mark76> How's it going so far?
[23:04] <NativeAngels> ok
[23:04] <mark76> Cool
[23:04] <NativeAngels> i have tried zenwalk but its a pain to configure
[23:04] <NativeAngels> xubuntu was slugish
[23:06] <mark76> Probably all the Gnome stuff they insist on ladening it with
[23:06] <NativeAngels> puppy was ok but not very practical
[23:06] <mark76> How come?
[23:07] <NativeAngels> it did work out of the box tho
[23:07] <mark76> It does indeed
[23:07] <NativeAngels> alot of the lite distros dont detect the wireless card
[23:08] <mark76> Ah. The wireless card. The Achilles heel of all lightweight distros
[23:09] <NativeAngels> after a stack of old pcs etc from  freecycle trying to find a lite distro to bring them back to life
[23:10] <NativeAngels> i use normal ubuntu on more powerful pcs
[23:11] <mark76> Fair enough
[23:11] <NativeAngels> this old dell is chugging along with lubuntu install
[23:11] <NativeAngels> not bad for a freebee though
[23:12] <mark76> That's excellent news
[23:12] <mark76> What are the specs?
[23:12] <NativeAngels> its an old p3
[23:12] <NativeAngels> dell latitude l400
[23:13] <NativeAngels> suprisingly for its age the batterys ok
[23:13] <mark76> RAM?
[23:13] <NativeAngels> i can say atm
[23:17] <mark76> sudo apt-get install sysinfo
[23:18] <NativeAngels> lubuntu is still installing
[23:18] <mark76> Oh right
[23:18] <mark76> Heh
[23:18] <NativeAngels> am using another laptop on here
[23:19] <mark76> Oh okay
[23:34] <mir1> hi bioterror: just thought i'd drop back and say thanks for your help earlier, everything is working great now!