[17:26] <jmgalloway> can someone tell me what directory the images are stored in the walrus controller?
[17:27] <TeTeT> jmgalloway: /var/lib/eucalyptus/bukkits/
[19:29] <jmgalloway> how can I specify which ports to open when I launch a vm?
[20:29] <marrusl> jmgalloway, this is a great guide:  http://cssoss.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/book_eucalyptus_beginners_guide_uec_edition1.pdf
[20:29] <marrusl> jmgalloway, check chapter 8 for network security management.
[20:32] <marrusl> jmgalloway, and fwiw... this is the best place to go for UEC docs.... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/
[20:34] <jmgalloway> Thanks I will check it out
[20:34] <marrusl> and in no way was that a suggestion to rtfm.  ;-)  just a good link to have.
[20:35] <jmgalloway> I've used that manual a lot.  It has really good info
[20:36] <jmgalloway> I think I jumped ahead to fast and used hybridfox...I am learning to use uec from the command line now
[20:36] <marrusl> indeed.  but yes, the short version is you want to look into the "euca-authorize" command
[20:37] <marrusl> Yup, jmgalloway, I agree.  The best way to do it is the hard way at first and then switch to something like hybridfox.
[20:37] <jmgalloway> yeah, I've been using that, just not declaring a security group when I do
[20:37] <marrusl> when you know the internals, it's going to come in handy when things go wrong off the GUI
[20:37] <jmgalloway> that's true.  Even the uec gui has trouble some times
[20:38] <marrusl> Indeed, and of course, you soon find out that it's only a small fraction of the functionality.
[20:38] <jmgalloway> that's true
[20:38] <marrusl> for the most part, the only thing I do out of the GUI is, a) download my credentials and b) change the default instance sizes.
[20:39] <marrusl> There are other bits, but it has little to do with managing EMIs and managing instances.
[20:39] <jmgalloway> a question...so if I put a user in a security group with specific ports open..each time they launch a vm, only those ports will be open right?
[20:39] <marrusl> Hmm.  It's really the instance that belongs to the security group the way I look at it.
[20:40] <jmgalloway> yeah, ok I see that now.
[20:41] <jmgalloway> euca-run-instances emi-XXXXXXXX -k mykey -g webservers
[20:41] <jmgalloway> webservers is the security group
[20:43] <jmgalloway> is there a way to delete the default security group?
[20:44] <marrusl> Hmm... good question.  never tried. You can always leave it with nothing authorized if not.
[20:46] <jmgalloway> well the reason I ask is because I created 4 admin accounts, then created security groups for all of them.  I am returning back to a single admin account and want to clear those old groups.
[21:14] <marrusl> jmgalloway, sorry, I was away from the keyboard there for a few...  euca-delete-group is the command you are looking for.
[21:15] <marrusl> all the euca2ools are well documented and have good man pages, fwiw.
[21:29] <jmgalloway> yeah I've used that
[21:29] <jmgalloway> it doesnt delete the default groups
[21:33] <jmgalloway> where are the groups located...which directory?
[21:38] <marrusl> jmgalloway, Hm.  interesting.  not sure where that's stored.   you may be running into the same issue as this fellow:
[21:38] <marrusl> http://open.eucalyptus.com/forum/how-delete-removed-users-security-group
[21:38] <marrusl> nobody answered his question, but he's a  colleague of mine.
[21:39] <marrusl> if you ping me back on this channel tomorrow, I can see if he made any progress with that question.
[21:39] <marrusl> perhaps if you recreate the users and try to delete the groups again?  then redelete the users./
[21:41] <marrusl> jmgalloway, actually, he will be on this channel tomorrow probably, his nick is TeTeT.
[21:42] <jmgalloway> ok thanks