| === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan | ||
| didrocks | good morning | 07:37 |
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| chrisccoulson | good morning | 08:22 |
| didrocks | hey chrisccoulson! | 08:27 |
| didrocks | how was your flight back? | 08:27 |
| chrisccoulson | hi didrocks, how are you? | 08:27 |
| chrisccoulson | my flight was ok, but i have ubuflu now | 08:28 |
| didrocks | totally rested and very fine, thanks! :) | 08:28 |
| didrocks | urgh | 08:28 |
| nigelb | chrisccoulson: ha, ubuflu. Who's the culprit this time? ;) | 08:28 |
| chrisccoulson | not sure, i suppose i could have got it on the flight | 08:28 |
| chrisccoulson | i felt rotten yesterday and even worse today | 08:29 |
| * nigelb hugs chrisccoulson | 08:30 | |
| * chrisccoulson hugs nigelb | 08:30 | |
| didrocks | nigelb: take care, you can catch a cold like this :) | 08:30 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 08:30 |
| nigelb | didrocks: heh, virtual hugs are virtually safe. | 08:31 |
| chrisccoulson | i guess i should start filling out my work items | 08:31 |
| chrisccoulson | at least that won't be too difficult today :) | 08:31 |
| didrocks | nigelb: you never know :) | 08:31 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: yeah! | 08:31 |
| nigelb | didrocks: haha, hence the 'virtually' ;) | 08:31 |
| didrocks | ;) | 08:31 |
| rodrigo_ | morning | 08:53 |
| didrocks | hey rodrigo_ :) | 08:54 |
| rodrigo_ | hi didrocks, how are you? | 08:54 |
| didrocks | rodrigo_: I'm fine, thanks! and you? | 08:54 |
| rodrigo_ | almost a person now, after day of rest :) | 08:55 |
| didrocks | hehe :) | 08:56 |
| bryceh | chrisccoulson, I'm convinced the airlines do not sanitize seats or tray tables between flights, and we pick up the sickie germs of whomever was in the seat before us | 09:21 |
| nigelb | 300+ geeks in one room and you say no chance of diseases? | 09:22 |
| bryceh | nigelb, did I say that? | 09:37 |
| seb128 | hey | 09:42 |
| bryceh | hey | 09:43 |
| didrocks | hey seb128! Had a nice flight back home? | 09:43 |
| didrocks | hello bryceh :) | 09:43 |
| bryceh | hi didrocks | 09:43 |
| seb128 | hello bryceh didrocks | 09:43 |
| seb128 | didrocks, yes, and you? | 09:43 |
| nigelb | bryceh: well, implied :D | 09:44 |
| didrocks | seb128: I had to run at jfk, Paris and Lyon, but free sport isn't bad :) | 09:44 |
| nigelb | lol | 09:44 |
| seb128 | hehehe | 09:44 |
| nigelb | didrocks: I almost read that as you 'had a run at jfo' :p | 09:44 |
| seb128 | I didn't have to run this time | 09:45 |
| didrocks | learnt from that trip: | 09:45 |
| didrocks | - 50 minutes in jfk to change terminal and have to go through the security again is definitively doable | 09:45 |
| didrocks | - 7 minutes to run between terminal 2E and the SNCF train station can also be done :) | 09:46 |
| nigelb | lol | 09:46 |
| didrocks | each time, I arrived between 2 to 5 minutes before closing boarding :) | 09:46 |
| seb128 | lucky for you that the airports were small ones | 09:46 |
| nigelb | its like your travel agency wants to make sure you're keeping fit | 09:47 |
| nigelb | and can manage stress :p | 09:47 |
| seb128 | one hour for connections don't work in some airports | 09:47 |
| didrocks | seb128: jfk is not that small. I just had to force the luck :) | 09:47 |
| seb128 | :-) | 09:47 |
| didrocks | well, it was initially planned 3hours in jfk and 1h30 half in Paris :) | 09:48 |
| didrocks | s/half// | 09:48 |
| seb128 | I see | 09:48 |
| seb128 | didrocks, didn't mterry work on the glib update btw? | 09:49 |
| seb128 | I saw robert_ancell did the update | 09:49 |
| didrocks | seb128: I've pushed one to the ppa IIRC | 09:49 |
| didrocks | let me check | 09:49 |
| didrocks | the gtk was still on my computer as the netbook can't build it | 09:49 |
| didrocks | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/gnome3-builds <- the glib is in the ppa | 09:50 |
| seb128 | right, the new gtk is not in maverick | 09:50 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ok, it should have been uploaded to natty | 09:50 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell did the work again so now it can just be dropped I guess | 09:50 |
| didrocks | seb128: I was thinking we were still focussing on the ppa for the new version | 09:50 |
| seb128 | gtk3 yes | 09:51 |
| seb128 | natty has glib 2.27.1 | 09:51 |
| seb128 | or had, it has 2.27.2 now | 09:51 |
| didrocks | ok | 09:51 |
| didrocks | I'll build and push gtk3 in the ppa later today | 09:51 |
| seb128 | ok thanks | 09:52 |
| didrocks | (I think it still needs some .symbol file love) | 09:52 |
| didrocks | yw | 09:52 |
| seb128 | we need to find a way to make sure we don't dup work | 09:52 |
| seb128 | especially with new team members | 09:52 |
| seb128 | in new timezones | 09:52 |
| didrocks | well, having a glib branch? | 09:52 |
| seb128 | well I'm not sure why those changes didn't land to the vcs | 09:52 |
| didrocks | there is one for gtk3, but didn't find a separate one for glib | 09:52 |
| seb128 | because glib is trunk | 09:52 |
| didrocks | as I was expecting a separate one for the ppa, didn't think it was in natty | 09:52 |
| seb128 | ok, so misunderstanding | 09:53 |
| didrocks | hence the fact I didn't push (and that mterry just sent me a debdiff) | 09:53 |
| seb128 | no worry | 09:53 |
| didrocks | so, should be good then :) | 09:53 |
| seb128 | well mterry is not in the team | 09:53 |
| seb128 | I will add it this week though | 09:53 |
| seb128 | he can't push atm | 09:53 |
| didrocks | yeah, sounds good. but most of the time he proposed a branch even when he can't merge, seemed that he was thinking as I, that it would be a separate branchc | 09:54 |
| didrocks | branch* | 09:54 |
| rodrigo_ | hey seb128 | 09:58 |
| seb128 | hey rodrigo_ | 09:58 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, so, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/gnome3-builds is the PPA for gnome 3 stuff then? | 09:59 |
| seb128 | only the stack | 09:59 |
| seb128 | we didn't start on applications yet and I don't think we should | 09:59 |
| seb128 | we probably want to wait a bit for gtk3 abi to stabilize | 10:00 |
| seb128 | it's not worth the extra work to play catching up with all breakages this early | 10:00 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, right, you told me at uds, so I see glib and gtk/gnome-desktop are there already, so what's missing? | 10:01 |
| seb128 | libcanberra | 10:01 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, ok, and are you working on it? | 10:01 |
| seb128 | gsettings-desktop-schemas | 10:01 |
| rodrigo_ | right | 10:01 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, no, feel free to work on those if you want | 10:01 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, cool | 10:01 |
| seb128 | there is probably some other libs that will be needed later | 10:02 |
| seb128 | like webkit | 10:02 |
| rodrigo_ | yes, I'll check that | 10:02 |
| seb128 | but those are the ones often required and still missing | 10:02 |
| === Bertrand is now known as bl8 | ||
| rodrigo_ | seb128, and are the packages in that PPA in some branch? | 10:03 |
| seb128 | yes, check the control vcs lines | 10:03 |
| rodrigo_ | ok | 10:04 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, just pick a random vcs url until they land in the archive | 10:05 |
| seb128 | we can't use the new source name until it's uploaded | 10:05 |
| seb128 | so I used gtk/ubuntugtk3 | 10:05 |
| seb128 | rather than gtk3/ubuntu | 10:05 |
| seb128 | I will move it to the right vcs when it's uploaded | 10:06 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, ok | 10:06 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, you can do the same for canberra, libcanbera/ubuntugtk3 | 10:07 |
| seb128 | or similar | 10:07 |
| rodrigo_ | hmm, but you mean creating a branch lp:libcanberra/ubuntugtk3, or just use that in the vcs line to fake it? | 10:07 |
| seb128 | no, use ~rodrigo/libcanberra/ubuntugtk3 | 10:09 |
| seb128 | or similar | 10:09 |
| rodrigo_ | ok | 10:09 |
| seb128 | until it's uploaded | 10:09 |
| seb128 | then we can switch to the normal lp:libcanberra3/ubuntu | 10:10 |
| seb128 | but lp:libcanberra3 will be created only when the source is uploaded | 10:10 |
| rodrigo_ | right | 10:10 |
| seb128 | didrocks, 2.27.1.real? | 10:17 |
| seb128 | did I screw the 2.27.1 upload or...? | 10:17 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, I screwed the first upload, sorry | 10:17 |
| didrocks | seb128: for glib, you mean? | 10:18 |
| didrocks | seb128: or gtk? (it's in fact 2.27.2 which wasn't changed by mterry) | 10:18 |
| didrocks | seb128: I'm currently building it | 10:18 |
| seb128 | no glib, I was wondering why we had a .real | 10:18 |
| didrocks | so it will be 2.27.2-0ubuntu1~build1 | 10:19 |
| seb128 | right, I guess we can just upload robert_ancell's version now | 10:19 |
| seb128 | for glib | 10:19 |
| seb128 | ok, waiting for your gtk update | 10:19 |
| didrocks | should be there soon. I'm expecting a FTBFS + change the .symbol file + rebuild and then upload | 10:20 |
| seb128 | ok | 10:20 |
| seb128 | brb | 10:22 |
| huats | morning | 10:37 |
| didrocks | hey huats! | 10:40 |
| huats | hey didrocks ! | 10:40 |
| seb128 | hey mterry | 10:45 |
| mterry | seb128, yo | 10:46 |
| huats | mister seb128 hello ! | 10:46 |
| seb128 | mterry, did you IRC during your sleep now? ;-) | 10:46 |
| seb128 | lut huats | 10:46 |
| seb128 | mterry, it's like a bit before 7am for you or am I doing the maths wrong? | 10:47 |
| mterry | seb128, :) I'm just up early to head into the office. (few things can drag me in, but free lunch pizza is one of them!) | 10:47 |
| seb128 | lol | 10:47 |
| mterry | seb128, you're right on the math | 10:47 |
| seb128 | ok | 10:48 |
| didrocks | seems some people didn't eat enough during UDS :) | 10:50 |
| didrocks | hey mterry | 10:50 |
| mterry | didrocks, hi :) | 11:10 |
| seb128 | nessita, hey | 11:34 |
| nessita | hello seb128! how are you? | 11:38 |
| seb128 | nessita, I'm great, how are you? | 11:39 |
| nessita | pretty good! :-) | 11:39 |
| seb128 | did you have a nice flight back? | 11:40 |
| nessita | seb128: yes, pretty good. A few babies cried like they were being killed, but other than that, good | 11:41 |
| nessita | seb128: how about you? | 11:48 |
| seb128 | nessita, I had a nice fly and slept well on sunday | 11:59 |
| seb128 | I'm back to normal timezone now | 12:00 |
| nessita | seb128: very good. That's important | 12:00 |
| seb128 | there was just an issue with the audio system in the plane though | 12:00 |
| seb128 | one of the speakers for the announces start doing loid noises | 12:01 |
| seb128 | they had to reset the audio system | 12:01 |
| seb128 | it has taken a while | 12:01 |
| seb128 | they had to call the land guys to know what to do | 12:01 |
| rodrigo_ | hi nessita | 12:05 |
| rodrigo_ | btw, in the 2 transatlantic flights I've been thise last week, the video system was linux-based | 12:06 |
| nessita | hi rodrigo_! | 12:06 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, how did you figure that was the case? | 12:09 |
| seb128 | the one we had was winCE based | 12:10 |
| seb128 | (one of the screen was on a scrash screen) | 12:10 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, some were rebooting, and I could clearly see the kernel starting messages | 12:10 |
| rodrigo_ | and a Penguin logo on the terminal :) | 12:10 |
| rodrigo_ | a tux | 12:10 |
| seb128 | nice | 12:11 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, what airline was that? | 12:11 |
| seb128 | lufthansa | 12:11 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, so we should fly on Continental airlines and Aer Lingus (the 2 I flew with) :) | 12:12 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 12:13 |
| seb128 | hey asac | 12:13 |
| rodrigo_ | only "problem" was their chess game, it didn't use gnuchess, so it was somewhat easy to beatit : ) | 12:13 |
| seb128 | mterry, wb | 12:18 |
| seb128 | mterry, I just added you to ubuntu-desktop on launchpad, enjoy | 12:18 |
| mterry | seb128, :) w00t, I'm in ur team, haxing ur PPA | 12:18 |
| seb128 | mterry, ;-) | 12:18 |
| seb128 | you better be nice, I can revoke team subscriptions ;-) | 12:19 |
| * TheMuso waves from Boston. | 12:19 | |
| * mterry waves back at TheMuso from Boston :) | 12:20 | |
| ricotz | seb128, hi | 12:20 |
| seb128 | hey ricotz | 12:20 |
| ricotz | seb128, is there a timeline for gtk+3.0 to be included in the ubuntu repo? | 12:21 |
| seb128 | ricotz, it's in a ppa | 12:21 |
| seb128 | but this week in natty | 12:21 |
| TheMuso | mterry: :) | 12:21 |
| seb128 | ricotz, why? | 12:21 |
| mterry | didrocks, did my gtk3/glib patches end up working? | 12:22 |
| * mterry checks the PPA | 12:22 | |
| didrocks | mterry: not sure about "working", uploaded to the ppa in any case, yeah :) | 12:22 |
| ricotz | seb128, ok, i am just curious since i added it to my ppa which I could drop when it there by default | 12:22 |
| mterry | didrocks, I guess, "applying". I remember there was some oddity and we thought maybe the wrong source had been unpacked | 12:22 |
| ricotz | didrocks, hi, there is gtk3 2.91.3 ;) | 12:23 |
| didrocks | mterry: yeah, I finished that. I was waiting this morning to build it on a laptop rather than a netbook | 12:23 |
| didrocks | ricotz: I know :) just prefered to finish current work first | 12:23 |
| ricotz | didrocks, ok | 12:24 |
| didrocks | mterry: amd64 seems still failing: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/58520011/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-amd64.gtk%2B3.0_2.91.2-0ubuntu1~build1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 12:24 |
| ricotz | didrocks, you can look at ricotz/staging | 12:25 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, bzr: ERROR: Invalid url supplied to transport: "lp:~rodrigo-moya/gsettings-desktop-schemas/ubuntugtk3": No such project: gsettings-desktop-schemas | 12:25 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, where can I push it? | 12:25 |
| didrocks | ricotz: ok, thanks :) I think other people will look at gtk3 before I get some time for it though :) | 12:25 |
| mterry | didrocks, hrm, those are new to .2. I'm assuming that check isn't made on local machines? i.e. it's unique to buildds? Because I didn't get that on my amd64 | 12:26 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, you can use +junk | 12:26 |
| rodrigo_ | ok | 12:26 |
| seb128 | lp:~rodrigo-moya/+junk/gsettings-desktop-schemas | 12:26 |
| didrocks | mterry: I don't know, I didn't have a build log there and I didn't get the issue on i386 | 12:26 |
| ricotz | rodrigo_, hi, are you working on gnome-themes-standard also? | 12:27 |
| mterry | didrocks, the gtk3 devs are so bad about porting their own tests to this-week's-new-API . Don't know why they expect others to keep up when they can't... | 12:27 |
| didrocks | mterry: seb128 is the most knowledgeable on gtk :) | 12:27 |
| rodrigo_ | ricotz, no, gsettings-desktop-schemas, and after that, libcanberra3 | 12:27 |
| ricotz | rodrigo_, can you have a look at ppa:ricotz/staging | 12:27 |
| rodrigo_ | ricotz, yes | 12:27 |
| ricotz | rodrigo_, thanks | 12:28 |
| cyphermox | good morning! | 12:28 |
| rodrigo_ | ricotz, ah, cool, already packaged there | 12:28 |
| TheMuso | rodrigo_: Afaik libcanberra should only require a rebuild once GTK3 is in the archive. | 12:28 |
| TheMuso | Ah sorry no, it needs more than that, but the changes are trivial. | 12:28 |
| rodrigo_ | TheMuso, hmm, I think it requires gtk3 | 12:29 |
| seb128 | we need 2 builds | 12:29 |
| TheMuso | rodrigo_: Yes, thats why I corrected myself. | 12:29 |
| seb128 | we need a version of the lib for each gtk | 12:29 |
| rodrigo_ | yes, it does, so a rebuild for gtk3 is needed | 12:29 |
| seb128 | not only a rebuild | 12:29 |
| seb128 | the build system need to be changed | 12:29 |
| seb128 | to ship 2 binaries | 12:29 |
| seb128 | one for each gtk | 12:29 |
| seb128 | or we need 2 sources | 12:29 |
| rodrigo_ | yeah, right | 12:29 |
| TheMuso | We should be able to do it from the one source. | 12:29 |
| seb128 | didrocks, mterry: the buildds fail on implicit conversions warnings | 12:30 |
| ricotz | seb128, no, just a few more binary packages | 12:30 |
| TheMuso | u/c | 12:30 |
| seb128 | didrocks, mterry: those usually turn to be crashers on 64bit archs | 12:30 |
| seb128 | so the buildds block those and make the build fail | 12:30 |
| ricotz | seb128, it can be build against gtk2 and gtk3 at the same time | 12:30 |
| mterry | seb128, right, likely because they dropped some API that the tests used and didn't port them -- I got the same issue with gtk3 2.91.1 | 12:30 |
| seb128 | welcome to gtk world | 12:30 |
| seb128 | that's why I said we should wait before using it for applications | 12:30 |
| didrocks | seb128: it's not triggered by -Wall? why mterry didn't get it locally? | 12:30 |
| seb128 | it's changing every day right now | 12:31 |
| seb128 | we don't want to play catch up on the application stack yet | 12:31 |
| Sir_Konrad | seb128, what changes? | 12:31 |
| seb128 | Sir_Konrad, ? | 12:31 |
| seb128 | gtk3 | 12:31 |
| Sir_Konrad | ah. | 12:31 |
| Sir_Konrad | seb128, sorry, new here. Doing some work for 11.04. | 12:31 |
| mterry | didrocks, well, it probably warned about it, just didn't do a failure at the end due to it. It's not building with -Werror | 12:31 |
| rodrigo_ | ricotz, do you have those packages in that PPA in branches? | 12:31 |
| ricotz | rodrigo_, no, sorry | 12:32 |
| ricotz | but it might save you some time | 12:32 |
| ricotz | i will be back later | 12:32 |
| bilalakhtar | Anyone seen mvo around here lately? | 12:33 |
| geekosopher | didrocks: that was superfast with bug 659244! :) | 12:33 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 659244 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "Tracks synced to iphone won't play (affects: 21) (dups: 3) (heat: 128)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/659244 | 12:33 |
| didrocks | mterry: not does the buildds | 12:33 |
| mterry | seb128, well, I can fix the amd64 failure, but I might as well also update to .3 while I'm there (which will likely fix those specific errors anyway). Is anyone else working on .3? | 12:34 |
| didrocks | /s/not/nor | 12:34 |
| didrocks | geekosopher: hehe :) | 12:34 |
| seb128 | mterry, I think didrocks is | 12:34 |
| mterry | didrocks, no, but I think the buildd's do a special check at the end for implicit-pointer warnings | 12:34 |
| didrocks | geekosopher: I don't have any ipod/iphone to test, I just ensured that rhythmbox is still working | 12:34 |
| seb128 | bilalakhtar, he has been travelling back from UDS and yesterday was an holiday | 12:34 |
| geekosopher | did(rocks) :) | 12:34 |
| didrocks | seb128: I'm not, if mterry wants to work on it, welcome :) | 12:34 |
| seb128 | bilalakhtar, he has a vac day today as well | 12:34 |
| bilalakhtar | seb128: Can you sponsor the debdiff on bug #636329 ? | 12:34 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 636329 in gimp (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "Gimp: Print preview and printout are blank pages (affects: 31) (dups: 2) (heat: 166)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/636329 | 12:34 |
| bilalakhtar | please :D | 12:34 |
| didrocks | mterry: oh something in dpkg-binarymangler? | 12:34 |
| seb128 | bilalakhtar, subscribe ubuntu-sponsors | 12:34 |
| seb128 | didrocks, no, soyuz | 12:35 |
| bilalakhtar | seb128: yes I did | 12:35 |
| seb128 | bilalakhtar, ok just wait then | 12:35 |
| mterry | didrocks, OK, I'll work on .3. Yeah, I think so. Because the failure is after the "Finished at 20101102-1222" build message | 12:35 |
| bilalakhtar | Thanks thanks! | 12:35 |
| seb128 | bilalakhtar, people have been travelling back from UDS and are jetlaged and need to catch up today | 12:35 |
| seb128 | didrocks, mterry: it's a soyuz thing | 12:35 |
| didrocks | seb128: oh really? it's parsing the log ouptut at the end? Ok, learnt something new today :) | 12:35 |
| seb128 | not a dpkg one | 12:35 |
| didrocks | same with official buildds? | 12:35 |
| seb128 | didrocks, yes | 12:35 |
| seb128 | yes | 12:35 |
| bilalakhtar | okay, yesterday was a holiday for all the Canonical employees! | 12:36 |
| didrocks | seb128: thanks for the explanation :) | 12:36 |
| seb128 | <seb128> didrocks, mterry: the buildds fail on implicit conversions warnings | 12:36 |
| seb128 | <seb128> didrocks, mterry: those usually turn to be crashers on 64bit archs | 12:36 |
| seb128 | so the buildds block those and make the build fail | 12:36 |
| didrocks | I was thinking we had to explicitely use -Wall -Werror for that, nice it's not needed! | 12:36 |
| Cimi | ahah, hi guys | 12:36 |
| Cimi | I slept 15 hours | 12:36 |
| seb128 | bilalakhtar, no it was not but it's a national holiday in several european countries | 12:36 |
| Cimi | :D | 12:36 |
| Cimi | incredible | 12:36 |
| seb128 | hey Cimi | 12:37 |
| bilalakhtar | okay | 12:37 |
| Cimi | hi seb! | 12:37 |
| Cimi | ciao didier! | 12:37 |
| seb128 | didrocks, it's very different, the buildd failure is specific to implicit conversions | 12:37 |
| seb128 | it will not fail on random warnings ;-) | 12:37 |
| didrocks | ok, just cherry picked implicit conversion, got it :) | 12:38 |
| didrocks | hello Cimi! | 12:38 |
| seb128 | debian does the same btw | 12:38 |
| seb128 | didrocks, it's not new, it's doing that for some years | 12:38 |
| seb128 | weird that never ran into that before ;-) | 12:39 |
| didrocks | seb128: apparently I was lucky :) | 12:39 |
| seb128 | yeah | 12:39 |
| didrocks | seb128: is there others soyuz trick I should know? | 12:39 |
| seb128 | mterry, btw no pressure but your gtk upload will land in natty | 12:39 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I don't think so | 12:40 |
| mterry | seb128, :) | 12:40 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok :) | 12:40 |
| seb128 | mterry, I think we are ready for upload there | 12:40 |
| mterry | yar, OK. I will make sure amd64 is all set | 12:40 |
| seb128 | we can still do a ppa upload first to be sure if you want | 12:41 |
| seb128 | didrocks, btw the build log end explain the build failure | 12:41 |
| seb128 | it has a wiki page pointer as well | 12:41 |
| didrocks | seb128: the issue wasn't that I don't know about ImplicitPointer conversion. I saw that in my build sometimes (but I always had -Werror -Wall). My concern was "why we get that in the buildd and not locally" :) | 12:43 |
| seb128 | didrocks, that's explained there as well | 12:44 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 12:44 |
| seb128 | in the debian wiki pointed | 12:44 |
| seb128 | anyway all sorted now | 12:44 |
| seb128 | you will know for the next time ;-) | 12:44 |
| seb128 | didrocks, thanks for the quick rb backport btw | 12:45 |
| seb128 | hey lamalex | 12:45 |
| lamalex | good morning seb128 | 12:45 |
| didrocks | seb128: yw :) | 12:45 |
| didrocks | seb128: right, I know for next time, thanks! :) | 12:45 |
| didrocks | hey lamalex | 12:45 |
| lamalex | hey didrocks | 12:45 |
| chrisccoulson | hi seb128! get back ok? | 12:46 |
| lamalex | seb128, for natty, will we be shipping the gnome-control-center from gtk 3, or the older version- I noticed a lot has changed but I haven't been able to get jhbuild to finish running to test it | 12:46 |
| * bilalakhtar makes an attempt to upgrade Empathy | 12:55 | |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, hey, yes, you? | 12:56 |
| seb128 | lamalex, it's not decided yet | 12:56 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - yeah, but i ended up with ubuflu | 12:56 |
| bilalakhtar | ubuflu? | 12:56 |
| bilalakhtar | Ubuntu flu! | 12:56 |
| seb128 | lamalex, we will start by updating the platform and deal with softwares are they get ready | 12:56 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, :-( | 12:57 |
| lamalex | seb128, ok sounds good | 12:57 |
| pitti | Good morning | 12:59 |
| pitti | hey seb128, how are you? | 12:59 |
| * pitti waves to chrisccoulson | 12:59 | |
| didrocks | hey pitti | 12:59 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks | 12:59 |
| chrisccoulson | hi pitti, how are you? | 12:59 |
| seb128 | hey pitti | 13:00 |
| pitti | pretty well, thanks | 13:00 |
| seb128 | pitti, I'm fine, how are you? | 13:00 |
| * pitti is on a CD space rampage | 13:00 | |
| seb128 | how was your flight? | 13:00 |
| bilalakhtar | Is GTK 3 in natty already? | 13:00 |
| seb128 | bilalakhtar, no, should be by the end of the week | 13:00 |
| bilalakhtar | hmm | 13:00 |
| seb128 | it's in a ppa | 13:00 |
| pitti | seb128: rather short, 4.5 h in total with an hour break in Charlotte | 13:00 |
| seb128 | pitti, you were on time for your plane I guess? | 13:00 |
| * pitti now is looking for someone to review scour in NEW | 13:00 | |
| bilalakhtar | so I will wait for a week before upgrading Empathy in Ubuntu | 13:00 |
| seb128 | pitti, I can do | 13:01 |
| pitti | seb128: in time to watch two more House episodes :) | 13:01 |
| pitti | seb128: security was < 5 min | 13:01 |
| seb128 | bilalakhtar, we don't want to take GNOME 2.91 updates yet | 13:01 |
| pitti | seb128: was it really so bad for you? | 13:01 |
| bilalakhtar | seb128: hmm? why? | 13:01 |
| seb128 | pitti, no, it was one of the shortest security check we had | 13:01 |
| pitti | seb128: that'd be awesome; then I could go on with the SVG compression | 13:01 |
| pitti | seb128: I'm going to file a MIR for it, perhaps you can put it straight to main? | 13:01 |
| seb128 | not sure why people told us to be hours in advances | 13:01 |
| pitti | (should be fine for main, it's small and harmless) | 13:02 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok | 13:02 |
| pitti | seb128: how's your jetlag? | 13:02 |
| didrocks | pitti, seb128: it took at least 50 minutes for dbarth and I just for the security in the morning | 13:02 |
| seb128 | bilalakhtar, because gtk3 is not stable yet and we don't want to play catching up with abi breakages in the archive | 13:02 |
| bilalakhtar | seb128: so when will you begin accepting them? | 13:02 |
| seb128 | dunno yet, end of year | 13:03 |
| seb128 | we plan to land the stack first | 13:03 |
| seb128 | then finish cleaning things to be ready for it | 13:03 |
| seb128 | build some softwares in a ppa | 13:03 |
| bilalakhtar | hmm | 13:03 |
| seb128 | clean the merges list | 13:03 |
| bilalakhtar | thanks for telling me about this | 13:03 |
| bilalakhtar | I am working on merges! | 13:03 |
| seb128 | great | 13:04 |
| seb128 | pitti, should I send a meeting remindeR? | 13:04 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, if you could, thanks | 13:05 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, doing that | 13:05 |
| mterry | Are people running natty yet? | 13:06 |
| pitti | mterry: o/ | 13:07 |
| pitti | works fine here | 13:07 |
| pitti | *suspiciously* fine | 13:07 |
| pitti | the only thing that broke for me after the upgrade was calibre | 13:07 |
| pitti | and that's already fixed | 13:07 |
| mterry | pitti, alright, I'll try too | 13:07 |
| seb128 | mterry, I've a mix, I do have it in my source and apt-get install what I need | 13:08 |
| seb128 | so it's progressive updates | 13:08 |
| mterry | seb128, too practical! :) | 13:09 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 13:09 |
| cyphermox | mterry: aside from things not building anymore, natty runs fine ;) | 13:10 |
| === bilalakhtar_ is now known as bilalakhtar | ||
| seb128 | waouh | 13:12 |
| seb128 | pitti, you signed for 52 work items already? ;-) | 13:13 |
| seb128 | rather 58 with 6 done | 13:13 |
| pitti | seb128: well, Perl elimination is a lot of work.. | 13:13 |
| pitti | I just exploded the list of what's needed there | 13:13 |
| pitti | instead of just one huge "fix 'em all" | 13:13 |
| pitti | easier for keeping track | 13:13 |
| seb128 | right | 13:14 |
| pitti | seb128: I did two unperlizations to get the feeling for it | 13:14 |
| pitti | but I want to start with the binarymangler-ish ones first | 13:14 |
| pitti | seb128: dh_scour works well now :) | 13:14 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, btw | 13:14 |
| seb128 | pitti, "Drop evolution-couchdb from default install, which drops couchdb and erlang (6.7 MB)" | 13:14 |
| seb128 | was that decided? | 13:14 |
| seb128 | I though that was the first option if we need space | 13:14 |
| pitti | seb128: as an option when it's still not enough | 13:14 |
| seb128 | but we would do only if space needed | 13:14 |
| pitti | seb128: so this one can easily be dropped if we get enough through other means | 13:14 |
| seb128 | ok, seems you freaked the u1 guys out | 13:15 |
| seb128 | Chipaca pinged me about that | 13:15 |
| seb128 | you might want to clarify it's a backup solution | 13:15 |
| seb128 | and not a made decision | 13:15 |
| pitti | seb128: *clickyclicky* better no? | 13:15 |
| pitti | now? | 13:15 |
| seb128 | pitti, yes, thank you! | 13:16 |
| * pitti hugs seb128 for early spec review | 13:16 | |
| * seb128 hugs pitti for early spec work start | 13:16 | |
| pitti | seb128: btw, I noticed that yesterday: Remove changelog.gz in pkgbinarymangler (17 MB): DONE | 13:16 |
| pitti | seb128: I wasn't aware that we still had so many upstream changelogs :) | 13:17 |
| * pitti does the CD space dance | 13:17 | |
| didrocks | can someone accept those for natty so that it's shown in the WI tracker: | 13:17 |
| didrocks | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-dx-n-unity-compiz | 13:17 |
| pitti | didrocks: will do | 13:17 |
| didrocks | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-dx-n-2d-experience-fallback | 13:17 |
| didrocks | pitti: thanks :) | 13:17 |
| didrocks | pitti: and congrats for the changelog.gz murder :) | 13:17 |
| Laney | hiya | 13:18 |
| didrocks | good morning Laney | 13:18 |
| pitti | hey Laney, how's it going? | 13:18 |
| Laney | just about over the jet lag :) | 13:18 |
| Laney | can someone merge lp:~laney/+junk/tomboy for me? | 13:19 |
| seb128 | hey Laney | 13:19 |
| seb128 | Laney, ok | 13:19 |
| seb128 | Laney, can't you do that yourself? | 13:19 |
| Laney | i'm not in ~ubuntu-desktop | 13:19 |
| seb128 | well if you have upload rights you have commit rights | 13:19 |
| seb128 | it subteam from main uploaders | 13:19 |
| Laney | no i only have package set upload | 13:20 |
| Laney | doesn't give team bzr commit | 13:20 |
| seb128 | oh right | 13:20 |
| seb128 | I though you had main upload rights | 13:20 |
| Laney | only to the important parts :P | 13:20 |
| seb128 | pitti, bsd sources can be shipped under the apache license? | 13:23 |
| seb128 | (just checking, I'm not sure about non common cases) | 13:23 |
| seb128 | pitti, you probably want to define a license for the debian directory in the copyright? | 13:25 |
| seb128 | otherwise scour seems fine to me | 13:25 |
| pitti | seb128: no, that one source file is bsd, rest is apache | 13:25 |
| pitti | seb128: "Files: *" should include debian/, though? | 13:26 |
| seb128 | good point | 13:26 |
| pitti | seb128: my intention was to ship the packaging under the same license, i. e. apache | 13:26 |
| pitti | just in case I ever write something (like a test suite) which should go upstream | 13:26 |
| seb128 | pitti, NEWed | 13:26 |
| pitti | as I did for optipng | 13:26 |
| pitti | \o/ | 13:26 |
| pitti | cheers | 13:26 |
| seb128 | bah I forgot to promote it | 13:27 |
| seb128 | I will do that when I new the binaries later | 13:27 |
| pitti | seb128: I'll file an MIR now | 13:29 |
| rodrigo_ | hmm, has anything changed related to the debian/*.install files? | 13:29 |
| rodrigo_ | if I add a subpackage (-dev) and 2 .install files, it just adds the docs to both packages | 13:29 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, no, why? | 13:29 |
| seb128 | can you push you work somewhere? | 13:30 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, yes, one minute | 13:30 |
| didrocks | bbiab, need to do some errands | 13:30 |
| seb128 | didrocks, see you | 13:31 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, lp:~rodrigo-moya/+junk/gsettings-desktop-schemas | 13:31 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, ok, checking that | 13:32 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, no hurry, I'm off for lunch now, so take your time :-) | 13:33 |
| * pitti chuckles on the graph on http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/natty/canonical-desktop-team.html -- clearly we had an UDS :) | 13:33 | |
| seb128 | pitti, it's suprising that we have so much green already there | 13:35 |
| pitti | seb128: well, some specs were carried over from maverick | 13:35 |
| pitti | explains why mvo is already at 100% :) | 13:35 |
| Sir_Konrad | ok so we can transfer songs to an iPod Touch on Ubuntu, but they don't appear in the iPod app. | 13:35 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 13:35 |
| Sir_Konrad | can anyone confirm this? | 13:35 |
| seb128 | Sir_Konrad, bug #659244 | 13:36 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 659244 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "Tracks synced to iphone won't play (affects: 21) (dups: 3) (heat: 128)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/659244 | 13:36 |
| seb128 | ? | 13:36 |
| seb128 | it might be fixed by that sru | 13:36 |
| Sir_Konrad | seb128, probably it. I'm going to try working on this bug. Hopefully I might have it fixed for jailbroken ones by the time of 11.04... | 13:36 |
| Sir_Konrad | seb128, it's already fixed? | 13:37 |
| seb128 | Sir_Konrad, we will use banshee as default music player this cycle | 13:37 |
| seb128 | Sir_Konrad, it might yes | 13:37 |
| Sir_Konrad | seb128, ok I'll be looking into it. If it's not fixed I'll see if I can help out. | 13:37 |
| seb128 | ok thank you | 13:37 |
| seb128 | try 0.13.2 to start | 13:38 |
| seb128 | I will do the update for natty today | 13:38 |
| seb128 | if you want to wait | 13:38 |
| Sir_Konrad | Rhythmbox 0.13.2 seb128? | 13:39 |
| seb128 | yes | 13:39 |
| Sir_Konrad | ok. | 13:39 |
| seb128 | Sir_Konrad, see comment #15 on the bug | 13:39 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, you named the files gsettings-desktop-schemas | 13:40 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, with "ttt", 3 t | 13:40 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, typo ;-) | 13:40 |
| Sir_Konrad | ok seb128, looking into it. :) | 13:40 |
| pitti | seb128: scour is in binNEW; I'll promote the source to main | 13:40 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks | 13:41 |
| pitti | seb128: do you have a sec to review? | 13:41 |
| * pitti prepares cdbs integration | 13:41 | |
| seb128 | pitti, yes | 13:41 |
| pitti | seb128: MIR is filed, FTR | 13:41 |
| seb128 | pitti, doing that | 13:41 |
| seb128 | pitti, do you want me to promote those as well? | 13:41 |
| * pitti hugs seb128, sorry for bothering you wit hthat | 13:41 | |
| pitti | seb128: please | 13:41 |
| pitti | I metioned in the MIR that it got pre-promoted | 13:42 |
| seb128 | pitti, no worry, I will make you pay back this week | 13:42 |
| pitti | it's easy to revert | 13:42 |
| seb128 | once gtk3 lands ;-) | 13:42 |
| pitti | heh, yes | 13:42 |
| seb128 | pitti, binaries out of binNEW to main now | 13:48 |
| pitti | *hug* | 13:48 |
| seb128 | *hug* back ;-) | 13:48 |
| * pitti runs a storm attack on SVGs | 13:48 | |
| Sir_Konrad | seb128, rhythmbox 0.13.2 isn't into the default Ubuntu repos yet. | 13:48 |
| seb128 | Sir_Konrad, right, upstream just rolled the tarball | 13:48 |
| pitti | Sir_Konrad: OOI, do you like playing wesnoth? :) | 13:48 |
| seb128 | Sir_Konrad, I will try to do the update today | 13:49 |
| Sir_Konrad | pitti, yeah used to be a huge wesnoth gamer. :P | 13:49 |
| pitti | Sir_Konrad: explains your nick | 13:49 |
| Sir_Konrad | seb128, you're going to put it into the repo? | 13:49 |
| seb128 | Sir_Konrad, in natty | 13:49 |
| seb128 | Sir_Konrad, but I can put it in a ppa for maverick if you want | 13:49 |
| Sir_Konrad | seb128, oh ok. can you put it into lucid? | 13:50 |
| seb128 | I don't think so | 13:50 |
| seb128 | the lucid glib is not recent enough to build it | 13:50 |
| Sir_Konrad | ah... | 13:50 |
| Sir_Konrad | I'm probably going to have tp update to Maverick. | 13:50 |
| mterry | seb128, in this gtk3 .3 update, I want to just use dh_autoreconf instead of updating this darn 070-mandatory-autoreconf.patch every time. Is there any reason not to? | 13:58 |
| seb128 | mterry, no | 13:58 |
| seb128 | just it's not as easy with other sources | 13:58 |
| seb128 | it's an old debhelper source and the rules do several builds | 13:59 |
| seb128 | so you can't only include the autoreconf rules | 13:59 |
| mterry | seb128, yeah. I'm inserting a dh_autoreconf after patching (as it only needs to be done once, AFAIK) and the dh_autoreconf_clean right before the dh_clean call | 14:00 |
| seb128 | seems alright | 14:00 |
| seb128 | if that work great, the autoreconf patch is driving me nuts as well | 14:00 |
| mterry | :) | 14:01 |
| * kenvandine hates all of those autoreconf patches | 14:01 | |
| Laney | dh_autoreconf ♥ | 14:02 |
| pitti | our meeting today is still 1600 UTC, right? | 14:03 |
| seb128 | I've to check on dh-autoreconf though | 14:03 |
| seb128 | pitti, 16:30utc | 14:03 |
| pitti | erm, right | 14:03 |
| seb128 | pitti, in 2:30 | 14:03 |
| pitti | $ date -u | 14:03 |
| pitti | Di 2. Nov 14:03:21 UTC 2010 | 14:03 |
| pitti | right | 14:03 |
| seb128 | 2:26 ;-) | 14:03 |
| * mterry wishes the world ran on UTC time | 14:04 | |
| seb128 | I need to check on dh-autoreconf | 14:04 |
| kenvandine | indeed | 14:04 |
| seb128 | I've the feeling some of the builds run twice | 14:04 |
| Sir_Konrad | pitti, meeting is at 1600UTC? | 14:04 |
| seb128 | or at least configure runs twice | 14:04 |
| pitti | Sir_Konrad: no, 1630 | 14:04 |
| Sir_Konrad | pitti, ok. | 14:04 |
| Laney | dh-autoreconf takes care of cleaning, so double builds shouldn't be a problem | 14:04 |
| seb128 | not sure why though | 14:04 |
| mterry | seb128, they do do multiple configure runs. But I didn't think we needed multiple dh_autoreconf calls | 14:04 |
| Sir_Konrad | Let me figure out what time that is in my time zone pitti. :P | 14:04 |
| seb128 | Laney, mterry: no, I mean simple things like gnome-utils | 14:05 |
| seb128 | dh-autoreconf make them configure twice | 14:05 |
| pitti | seb128: date -d '16:30 UTC' | 14:05 |
| pitti | sorry, Sir_Konrad ^ | 14:05 |
| seb128 | not sure if they build twice | 14:05 |
| Sir_Konrad | pitti, what? | 14:05 |
| seb128 | but I can see the build finish and configure run again | 14:05 |
| seb128 | which doesn't happen when they have an autoreconf patch | 14:05 |
| pitti | Sir_Konrad: that will give you the meeting time in your local time | 14:05 |
| seb128 | rather than using the autoreconf rules | 14:05 |
| Laney | weird | 14:06 |
| Sir_Konrad | ah. | 14:06 |
| Sir_Konrad | thanks. :P | 14:06 |
| Laney | it just runs autoreconf -f -i | 14:06 |
| Sir_Konrad | Hmm... I dunno if I'll be able to attend. :\ | 14:06 |
| Sir_Konrad | Can I get a recap later on? :D | 14:08 |
| seb128 | logs are public and online | 14:08 |
| seb128 | you can find them on the wiki page after the meeting usually | 14:08 |
| Sir_Konrad | ok. | 14:08 |
| didrocks | pitti: when you have some time, any idea why I get only one blueprint on the list and not others even if I updated them this morning? (see http://paste.ubuntu.com/524441/) | 14:09 |
| seb128 | didrocks, which ones are missing? | 14:09 |
| seb128 | oh | 14:09 |
| seb128 | checking | 14:09 |
| seb128 | didrocks, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-dx-n-2d-experience-fallback | 14:10 |
| seb128 | you need to assign it to you | 14:10 |
| seb128 | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-dx-n-unity-compiz | 14:10 |
| seb128 | same | 14:10 |
| seb128 | not sure why https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-desktop-n-bringing-desktop-and-netbook-image-closer is not | 14:10 |
| didrocks | not really my spec for those 2 fist, but I was thinking that the WI tracker will take as I have actions on them | 14:11 |
| seb128 | try deleting the empty line bellow "work items:" | 14:11 |
| pitti | didrocks: what seb128 says | 14:11 |
| pitti | the WI block must be one paragraph | 14:11 |
| pitti | since you can have other stuff around it | 14:11 |
| didrocks | pitti: oh right, sorry for that :) | 14:11 |
| didrocks | but for the first two? it should be an assignee, even if it's not me, isn't it? | 14:12 |
| didrocks | and for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-desktop-n-oneconf, any clue? | 14:12 |
| didrocks | should be accepted to natty I guess | 14:12 |
| pitti | didrocks: ^ done | 14:15 |
| didrocks | pitti: thanks :) | 14:15 |
| didrocks | just need to confirm who should be assignee on the two first spec, but dbarth is away today | 14:16 |
| mterry | seb128, OK, I have a gtk3 package that built successfully in my personal natty PPA (and uses dh-autoreconf). I'll update the ubuntugtk3 branch shortly. Should I push to the GNOME3 PPA or natty? | 14:16 |
| mterry | Hmm, how do I prevent .bzr-builddeb/default.conf from showing up as a local change to the package? | 14:23 |
| didrocks | mterry: do you use bzr bd -S ? | 14:23 |
| mterry | didrocks, oh, that would probably be wise. I was doing debuild | 14:23 |
| didrocks | :) | 14:24 |
| seb128 | mterry, you can probably push to both | 14:26 |
| seb128 | jasoncwarner, hey | 14:26 |
| pitti | hey jasoncwarner | 14:26 |
| seb128 | mterry, do a maverick upload in the gnome3 ppa | 14:26 |
| seb128 | mterry, we will keep that a backport for people doing gtk3 cleaning still on maverick | 14:27 |
| mterry | seb128, k | 14:27 |
| seb128 | mterry, maybe wait for tomorrow in natty, I will do another round of checking today to make sure we are on shape | 14:27 |
| mterry | sure | 14:27 |
| ricotz | seb128, i hope the natty gtk3 package will include introspection? | 14:28 |
| seb128 | ricotz, it will | 14:28 |
| ricotz | good :) | 14:28 |
| seb128 | mterry, is the current version doing that? ;-) | 14:28 |
| seb128 | I turned it on and off during the previous weeks | 14:29 |
| mterry | heh, let me check | 14:29 |
| seb128 | build was failing with gir 0.9.3 | 14:29 |
| ricotz | it builds fine with 0.9.12 | 14:29 |
| seb128 | I commented on the binary in the control and the rules changes | 14:29 |
| seb128 | ricotz, right, I got it to build fine locally | 14:29 |
| seb128 | but the ppa has maverick builds as well | 14:29 |
| didrocks | morning jasoncwarner | 14:29 |
| mterry | seb128, nope, still commented out | 14:30 |
| ricotz | seb128, maverick wont work of course, but natty needs to have it | 14:30 |
| seb128 | mterry, ok, so we need to turn that on before going to natty | 14:30 |
| mterry | seb128, sure | 14:30 |
| seb128 | mterry, I can fix that and upload later today or tomorrow | 14:30 |
| seb128 | mterry, or do you want to do it? | 14:30 |
| seb128 | ricotz, "needs"? | 14:30 |
| seb128 | ricotz, nothing require it yet so no hurry | 14:31 |
| mterry | seb128, I can do it whenever we decide to push to natty | 14:31 |
| seb128 | but we will have it at some point sure | 14:31 |
| seb128 | mterry, well goal is to land that to natty this week | 14:31 |
| seb128 | I would say later today or tomorrow | 14:31 |
| ricotz | seb128, gnome-shell needs it, or i need to ship an extra package :( | 14:31 |
| mterry | seb128, right, that's the timeframe I meant too | 14:31 |
| seb128 | mterry, | 14:32 |
| seb128 | -#dh_girepository -pgir1.0-gtk-3.0 | 14:32 |
| seb128 | +dh_girepository -pgir1.0-gtk-3.0 | 14:32 |
| seb128 | ---enable-introspection=no \ | 14:32 |
| seb128 | +--enable-introspection=yes \ | 14:32 |
| seb128 | gir1.0-gtk-3.0 needs to be in the BINARY_ARCH_PKGS list | 14:34 |
| ricotz | and drop the gir patch | 14:34 |
| seb128 | uncomment the binary in control and the typelib .install | 14:34 |
| jasoncwarner | didrocks: morning! | 14:34 |
| seb128 | mterry, ^ basically what you need | 14:35 |
| mterry | :) ok | 14:35 |
| mterry | thx | 14:35 |
| seb128 | np | 14:35 |
| seb128 | jasoncwarner, thanks for ignoring pitti and me hellos ;-) | 14:36 |
| didrocks | ("continue to ignore" +1 penalty card :-)) | 14:37 |
| chrisccoulson | hi jasoncwarner! | 14:39 |
| Sir_Konrad | ok guys, I'm going to beat it for now. Be back later. ;) | 14:40 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, good morning | 14:40 |
| seb128 | Sir_Konrad, bye | 14:40 |
| didrocks | hey rickspencer3 | 14:41 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, hey | 14:41 |
| Sir_Konrad | see ya later seb128. :) | 14:41 |
| rickspencer3 | hi didrocks, seb128, etc... | 14:41 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, did you make home fine? | 14:42 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128, iou | 14:42 |
| seb128 | oui ;-) | 14:42 |
| pitti | bonjour rickspencer3 | 14:42 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, bien :-) | 14:42 |
| rickspencer3 | mon voyage (eeer, don;'t know how to say "was") tres facile | 14:42 |
| didrocks | était | 14:42 |
| didrocks | good to hear :) | 14:43 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128, et tu? | 14:43 |
| seb128 | "toi" | 14:43 |
| seb128 | j'ai bien voyagé | 14:43 |
| rickspencer3 | hehe | 14:43 |
| rickspencer3 | chouette | 14:43 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 14:44 |
| seb128 | j'ai dormis un peu dans l'avion | 14:44 |
| rickspencer3 | didrocks, comment est Leon? | 14:44 |
| didrocks | "Lyon" (Leon is a first name btw :)) | 14:44 |
| rickspencer3 | </Abusing French> | 14:44 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: je suis encore à Annecy, je déménage à Lyon début décembre | 14:44 |
| rickspencer3 | didrocks, ah, oui | 14:45 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, do you have a schedule for blueprints between now and Feature Definition Freeze? | 14:45 |
| rickspencer3 | avez-vous un schedule? | 14:46 |
| rickspencer3 | hehe | 14:46 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: our plan was to have the list of specs nailed down by today's meeting, and WIs settled by next Tuesday | 14:46 |
| rickspencer3 | aggressive | 14:46 |
| pitti | I know :) | 14:46 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, with plumbers this week, seems a bit hard to nail that down across the board | 14:46 |
| pitti | but feasible IMHO, given that we don't have that many specs this cycle | 14:46 |
| seb128 | I will cover for pitti | 14:46 |
| seb128 | or rather help | 14:46 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: I already got mine written up | 14:46 |
| seb128 | I don't think anybody else is at plumbers in our team | 14:46 |
| pitti | all pending approval | 14:46 |
| rickspencer3 | yeah, I'm thinking of all the teams, though | 14:46 |
| seb128 | so plumbers should not impact on the team | 14:46 |
| pitti | and I can do some reviews during the week | 14:47 |
| seb128 | I think the "this week" was for desktop | 14:47 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: oh, this is just for desktop | 14:47 |
| seb128 | not sure what other teams plan to do | 14:47 |
| rickspencer3 | right, understood | 14:47 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: if other teams need more time, that's up to them from my POV | 14:47 |
| rickspencer3 | in the past, the Desktop team set the pace, so I was going to try to align everyone around the desktop schedule | 14:47 |
| pitti | but I didn't ask people to write complex wiki documents, etc. | 14:47 |
| rickspencer3 | however, I think that other teams may need 1 more week | 14:47 |
| pitti | we did that in the past, but the reason for that is pretty obsolete IMHO | 14:48 |
| seb128 | pitti, imho we should stop doing that | 14:48 |
| seb128 | we didn't really last cycle | 14:48 |
| pitti | I know, and on purpose | 14:48 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, how do you know if you have the "list of specs"? do you set the blueprints with some attribute? | 14:48 |
| seb128 | what we care about is a summary and workitems imho | 14:48 |
| pitti | we also didn't for lucid | 14:48 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+specs?searchtext=desktop | 14:48 |
| pitti | (minus some noise there from ols/dx) | 14:48 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, but do you set them as "Accepted" or so? | 14:49 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: I target them to natty | 14:49 |
| rickspencer3 | Or is it that they are assigned? | 14:49 |
| pitti | and they need an assignee in the desktop team | 14:49 |
| rickspencer3 | So, series goal = Natty | 14:49 |
| rickspencer3 | ? | 14:49 |
| pitti | but for above list, targetting to Natty is the critical point | 14:49 |
| rickspencer3 | and probably should have an assignee | 14:49 |
| pitti | yep | 14:49 |
| pitti | Jason and I went through and made sure that all of them have people assigned and a priority | 14:50 |
| rickspencer3 | ok, I think having teams have that by next Thursday, and then have work items the following Thursday is reasonable | 14:50 |
| rickspencer3 | I'll discuss with the other Engineering Managers | 14:50 |
| rickspencer3 | thanks all! | 14:50 |
| pitti | cheers | 14:51 |
| tkamppeter | jasoncwarner, hi | 14:51 |
| jasoncwarner | tkamppeter: good morning (or afternoon) | 14:52 |
| bilalakhtar | chrisccoulson: As for bug #533652, what do you think would be the proper way to fix? The bug is about removing the cancel button, but you made an attempt to reduce the timeout duration | 14:53 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 533652 in gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "critically low battery dialog "cancel" button is meaningless (affects: 8) (heat: 61)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/533652 | 14:53 |
| bilalakhtar | Can I work on removing the cancel button? Currently the bug is assigned to you, since the last few months | 14:54 |
| chrisccoulson | bilalakhtar, the issue is that notify-osd is displaying the fallback alert | 14:54 |
| chrisccoulson | g-p-m is not adding a cancel button | 14:54 |
| bilalakhtar | chrisccoulson: so notify-osd is displaying that? | 14:54 |
| chrisccoulson | yes | 14:54 |
| bilalakhtar | how come! | 14:54 |
| bilalakhtar | yup, its true | 14:55 |
| bilalakhtar | But shouldn't it display that in a bubble? | 14:55 |
| bilalakhtar | chrisccoulson: ^ | 14:55 |
| chrisccoulson | yes | 14:55 |
| bilalakhtar | so did you revert the change in the package later on? | 14:55 |
| chrisccoulson | bilalakhtar, just looking | 14:56 |
| bilalakhtar | thanks | 14:57 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, oh, didn't see the typo!! | 14:58 |
| bilalakhtar | chrisccoulson: yes, I saw, you removed it | 14:58 |
| bilalakhtar | it went upstream | 14:58 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, wb ;-) | 14:58 |
| bilalakhtar | *reportedly* | 14:59 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, hehe, I didn't spot it immediatly either | 14:59 |
| chrisccoulson | it should never have gone upstream, it's ubuntu specific | 14:59 |
| chrisccoulson | anyway, i can see the issue | 14:59 |
| bilalakhtar | chrisccoulson: thanks, I know how to fix it now | 14:59 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, that's why sometimes it's better to have someone look at the code, I looked everywhere but at the file names :) | 14:59 |
| chrisccoulson | bilalakhtar, it's ok, already fixed ;) | 15:00 |
| bilalakhtar | chrisccoulson: But can't we have a bubble instead? why get notify-osd to display that dialog? | 15:00 |
| bilalakhtar | chrisccoulson: it isn't fixed, the upstream bug was closed as NOTGNOME | 15:00 |
| chrisccoulson | bilalakhtar, i mean, already fixed here | 15:00 |
| bilalakhtar | thanks, go ahead | 15:01 |
| bilalakhtar | I mean, go ahead with your work, I disturbed you quite much :D | 15:02 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, ok, packages build great now, thanks for spotting it! | 15:02 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, should I upload to the PPA? | 15:02 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, yes | 15:03 |
| seb128 | do you have access to it? | 15:03 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, not sure, let me try | 15:05 |
| bilalakhtar | seb128: I want to get a GTK bug fixed, should I work on ubuntugtk3 branch or normal ~ubuntu-desktop one? | 15:07 |
| seb128 | what bug? | 15:08 |
| seb128 | I would say normal gtk | 15:08 |
| seb128 | you probably want it fixed in gtk2 | 15:08 |
| seb128 | gtk3 is not really used yet | 15:08 |
| bilalakhtar | hmm, oka | 15:09 |
| bilalakhtar | Its a tiny bug | 15:09 |
| bilalakhtar | bug #611011 | 15:10 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 611011 in gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Printing to File should go to $XDG_DOCUMENTS_DIR instead of $HOME (affects: 2) (heat: 38)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/611011 | 15:10 |
| seb128 | the patch if you get one will probably apply to both series | 15:10 |
| seb128 | but better to work on upstream code and get it upstream | 15:10 |
| seb128 | so it will go back in the archive with the next update | 15:10 |
| rodrigo_ | bilalakhtar, yes, I guess that looks a nice upstream fix | 15:10 |
| bilalakhtar | hmmmm | 15:10 |
| bilalakhtar | rodrigo_: will forward it upstream, then wait if they accept it soon, else go ahead and poke a sponsor here | 15:11 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, Rejected: | 15:11 |
| rodrigo_ | Signer has no upload rights to this PPA. | 15:11 |
| rodrigo_ | bilalakhtar, yes, GTK developers might not answer too quick now, as they have a full load of work | 15:11 |
| bilalakhtar | hmm, GTK source uncompressed is HUGE! | 15:12 |
| rodrigo_ | bilalakhtar, so, what I'd do is to file the patch in bugzilla.gnome.org, add it to our packages, and then remove it from the packages when it goes upstream | 15:12 |
| bilalakhtar | rodrigo_: that's what I would do definitely, thanks | 15:12 |
| ricotz | bilalakhtar, if it is an easy and understandable patch which you have got as git-patch you could try promoting it on irc | 15:14 |
| rodrigo_ | yeah, also | 15:15 |
| * bilalakhtar has a lot of experience creating patches with git and running behind GNOME devs | 15:15 | |
| bilalakhtar | Rhythmbox, Empathy, Nautilus, I have patched them all | 15:15 |
| rodrigo_ | yeah, some patches from you are in upstream! :) | 15:15 |
| seb128 | re | 15:20 |
| rodrigo_ | hey seb128, not sure if you saw my message, but yeah, no permissions for that PPA | 15:20 |
| seb128 | I saw and added you to the team now | 15:20 |
| rodrigo_ | ah, ok | 15:20 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, that gives you right to push to all desktop packages as well | 15:20 |
| * rodrigo_ dput's | 15:20 | |
| seb128 | but no upload rights to the archive | 15:20 |
| rodrigo_ | so, I can break everything!!! | 15:21 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, we usually don't give commit access before some reviews | 15:21 |
| seb128 | right | 15:21 |
| rodrigo_ | ok :) | 15:21 |
| rodrigo_ | so, I can push to the ~ubuntu-desktop branches now? | 15:21 |
| seb128 | which was going to be my point, please ask for review before touching main archive components | 15:21 |
| seb128 | yes | 15:21 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, but you always go via merge proposals rather than pushing directly? | 15:21 |
| seb128 | but feel free to commit on new components you work on | 15:21 |
| seb128 | or things you usually maintain, tomboy, etc | 15:21 |
| rodrigo_ | yeah | 15:22 |
| rodrigo_ | for the others, I'll send merge proposals | 15:22 |
| seb128 | well if you are unsure just go with merge proposed for a bit | 15:22 |
| rodrigo_ | yes | 15:22 |
| seb128 | it's likely that after a while we will tell you to just commit | 15:22 |
| seb128 | but we usually wait until we are confident you don't do errors | 15:22 |
| seb128 | I just gave you access now because it will make things easier for gtk3 | 15:22 |
| seb128 | you have access to the ppa and new sources this way | 15:23 |
| seb128 | ok? | 15:23 |
| rodrigo_ | yeah, right, I don't want to break anything | 15:23 |
| seb128 | if you are unsure just ask on the channel | 15:23 |
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| bilalakhtar | XDG_DOCUMENTS_DIR doesn't exist usually in the system, then how should the system find the document directory? | 15:38 |
| bilalakhtar | Should it default to $HOME/Documents? | 15:38 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, ok, gsettings-desktop-schemas is in the PPA now | 15:41 |
| rodrigo_ | ricotz, ^^ if you can have a try at it when it's available in the PPA, that would be great | 15:41 |
| didrocks | bilalakhtar: it depends on ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs for the locale handling | 15:41 |
| bilalakhtar | thanks | 15:42 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, great ;-) | 15:42 |
| ricotz | rodrigo_, the version string doesnt look right | 15:44 |
| rodrigo_ | ricotz, hmm, why? | 15:44 |
| ricotz | should be something like 0.1.0-0ubuntu1 | 15:45 |
| rodrigo_ | ah, right | 15:45 |
| ricotz | and add an ~maverick1 or something | 15:45 |
| ricotz | rodrigo_, ^ so it doesnt conflict with the natty upload | 15:46 |
| rodrigo_ | yeah, doing a new upload now with the version changed | 15:46 |
| micahg | ricotz: ~maverick1 is for official backports, it should be something like ~maverick~ppa1 unless it's an official developer backport | 15:47 |
| rodrigo_ | ricotz, so, 01.0-0ubuntu1~maverick~ppa1 ? | 15:47 |
| ricotz | micahg, yeah :P, just wanted to give an exampel | 15:47 |
| rodrigo_ | 0.1.0-0ubuntu1~maverick~ppa1 | 15:47 |
| ricotz | rodrigo_, yes | 15:48 |
| Riddell | what's the Ubuntu Desktop equivalent of "your battery's dying, suspending in 30s, click here to cancel" ? | 15:48 |
| ricotz | rodrigo_, you might want to upload a 0.1.0-0ubuntu1~ppa1 to the natty pocket | 15:49 |
| pitti | ricotz: we don't have a "cancel", but otherwise that's done by gnome-power-manager | 15:49 |
| ricotz | Riddell, ^ | 15:50 |
| jcastro | didrocks: can you idle in #banshee from now on? | 15:53 |
| didrocks | jcastro: I'm idling already :) | 15:53 |
| jcastro | didrocks: also, they started putting together bugs they need to work on for our transition | 15:53 |
| rodrigo_ | ricotz, btw, is it safe to install the packages from your PPA in a maverick install? | 15:56 |
| rodrigo_ | ricotz, that is, there is no glib API changes that might affect other apps, right? | 15:57 |
| * rodrigo_ just created a virtual machine to test the gnome3-builds ppa | 15:57 | |
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| ricotz | rodrigo_, i havent tested this and i wouldnt recommend it | 16:13 |
| rodrigo_ | ricotz, ok | 16:13 |
| rodrigo_ | hmm, is the desktop meeting in 10 minutes, or in 1 hour 10 minutes? evolution just showed me a reminder that it's in 10 minutes, but it used to be at 6:30 my time | 16:21 |
| mterry | 10 min | 16:22 |
| soren | rodrigo_: Lots of places moved away from DST this weekend. | 16:22 |
| micahg | 16:30 UTC is in 10 minutes | 16:22 |
| rodrigo_ | yeah, right | 16:22 |
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| jasoncwarner | 16:30 UTC. Everyone here? | 16:30 |
| jasoncwarner | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2010-11-02 | 16:30 |
| * tremolux waves | 16:30 | |
| didrocks | o/ | 16:30 |
| pitti | o/ | 16:30 |
| * kenvandine waves | 16:30 | |
| * TheMuso is here. | 16:31 | |
| * rodrigo_ is here | 16:31 | |
| seb128 | hey jcastro | 16:31 |
| seb128 | ups | 16:31 |
| mterry | o/ | 16:31 |
| seb128 | hey jasoncwarner | 16:31 |
| jasoncwarner | Ok. I guess we can get started! | 16:32 |
| * pitti gets spammed with more errors in WI definitions -- thanks everyone for being quick with drafting! | 16:32 | |
| kenvandine | :) | 16:33 |
| * pitti checks previous actions in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2010-10-19 -- painfully slow network here | 16:33 | |
| tkamppeter | hi | 16:33 |
| jasoncwarner | Ok, so as I understand post UDS schedules, we should be targeting today as the day we get the blueprints targeted to Natty, is that correct? | 16:34 |
| pitti | so, no outstanding actions AFAICS | 16:35 |
| jasoncwarner | Oh, I was corrected as well. First order of business | 16:35 |
| pitti | I already sent a reminder about this last Friday | 16:35 |
| jasoncwarner | We need to welcome rodrigo to the desktop team! | 16:35 |
| kenvandine | welcome rodrigo_! | 16:35 |
| pitti | basically, is everyone happy with the priorities and the spec list in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+specs?searchtext=desktop ? | 16:35 |
| tremolux | hey rodrigo_ ! | 16:36 |
| * pitti hugs rodrigo_, welcome! | 16:36 | |
| rodrigo_ | hi all!! | 16:36 |
| didrocks | hey rodrigo_ ;) | 16:36 |
| rodrigo_ | thank you, really happy to be on this team | 16:36 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, welcome! | 16:36 |
| didrocks | pitti: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-dx-n-2d-experience-fallback should be essential, but it's not my spec and I can't change | 16:36 |
| pitti | didrocks: done | 16:37 |
| bryceh | welcome rodrigo_! | 16:37 |
| didrocks | thanks :) | 16:37 |
| mterry | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdevs-desktop-n-opportunistic-developer-manual should be targetted for natty, but I can't change that | 16:37 |
| mterry | rodrigo_, hihi | 16:37 |
| pitti | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-desktop-n-oneconf also is new on the list -> Low? (didrocks <-) | 16:37 |
| cassidy | bigon, didrocks, seb128, kenvandine : https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/663535 | 16:37 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 663535 in empathy (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Extreme poor Video Quality in Empathy (jabber) (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] | 16:37 |
| pitti | mterry: done | 16:37 |
| cassidy | would be nice to fix this in Maverick | 16:37 |
| mterry | pitti, thanks | 16:38 |
| didrocks | pitti: low sounds good | 16:38 |
| seb128 | cassidy, hey, thanks, will look after the metting | 16:38 |
| pitti | mterry, rickspencer3: rick as approver is deliberate? | 16:38 |
| kenvandine | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-desktop-n-geoclue | 16:38 |
| kenvandine | should be targeted | 16:38 |
| mterry | pitti, I'm not sure. What are the implications of that? | 16:38 |
| pitti | mterry: as long as rickspencer3 is happy to do that, that's fine | 16:38 |
| pitti | certainly he has a particular interest in that subject :) | 16:39 |
| bigon | cassidy: option A) is the best I guess? | 16:39 |
| mterry | pitti, I can follow up with him about it | 16:39 |
| pitti | kenvandine: are we really going to do that for natty? | 16:39 |
| cassidy | bigon, yeah | 16:39 |
| kenvandine | pitti, that was the plan | 16:39 |
| kenvandine | pitti, in a small way :) | 16:39 |
| pitti | kenvandine: that was already targetted to lucid/m and we postponed because it wasn't ready yet? | 16:39 |
| kenvandine | indicator-datetime needs it | 16:39 |
| pitti | kenvandine: 'k | 16:39 |
| kenvandine | it is ready | 16:39 |
| kenvandine | but we are going in very low key... simple even | 16:39 |
| kenvandine | :) | 16:40 |
| rickspencer3 | maybe set it to jasoncwarner? | 16:40 |
| pitti | kenvandine: is that medium or high? i. e. if it turns out to be broken, do we throw resources at it to fix it or drop it? | 16:40 |
| seb128 | pitti, it's low or medium | 16:40 |
| seb128 | it's a nice to have but we can opt that out easily | 16:40 |
| pitti | jasoncwarner: (sorry for 0wning the meeting ATM, please tell me to STFU if you want to talk about something else first) | 16:41 |
| pitti | seb128: ack | 16:41 |
| seb128 | it's just a "do you want to change your timezone" | 16:41 |
| seb128 | if you travel | 16:41 |
| kenvandine | low | 16:41 |
| kenvandine | and minimal work | 16:41 |
| pitti | cute | 16:41 |
| kenvandine | the package is in good condition | 16:41 |
| pitti | I agree to Low, folks can change it in the panel | 16:41 |
| kenvandine | just need to upload ubuntu-geoip and indicator-datetime | 16:41 |
| seb128 | pitti, you can set me as approver if you want | 16:41 |
| kenvandine | the rest of the "must haves" there is IS :) | 16:42 |
| seb128 | not sure if jasoncwarner wants to approve specs yet | 16:42 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: reviwing the book? didrocks as approver then, perhaps? | 16:42 |
| seb128 | or if he still needs some time to get used to our workflow etc for now | 16:42 |
| pitti | seb128: you are already, sounds fine | 16:42 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, oh? for the book, I can stay approver, whatever | 16:42 |
| pitti | seb128: well, spec review is a typical tech lead responsibility | 16:43 |
| rodrigo_ | who is the tech lead? | 16:43 |
| pitti | the targetting/milestone planning is more of a project mgmt thing, and thus we should all do that (with Jason driving) | 16:43 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: I guess me again, now that I'm back; unless seb128 wants to keep it :) | 16:44 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, pitti | 16:44 |
| rodrigo_ | :) | 16:44 |
| seb128 | pitti, (meeting on friday 6pm are yours :p) | 16:44 |
| pitti | seb128: \o/ | 16:44 |
| rodrigo_ | hehe | 16:44 |
| kenvandine | hehe | 16:44 |
| didrocks | ahah :) | 16:44 |
| tremolux | haha | 16:44 |
| TheMuso | heh | 16:44 |
| kenvandine | seb128, you did a great job :) | 16:44 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, thanks ;-) | 16:44 |
| pitti | with me being in ~ubuntu-release it actually makes sense for me to track our release state, that's fine | 16:45 |
| * pitti hugs seb128 for being an great TL last cycle | 16:45 | |
| * tremolux applauds seb128 | 16:45 | |
| * rodrigo_ applauds too | 16:45 | |
| * seb128 hugs pitti | 16:45 | |
| seb128 | thanks everybody | 16:45 |
| * didrocks hugs seb128 as well :) | 16:45 | |
| kenvandine | :) | 16:45 |
| seb128 | I will still watch on desktop and dx don't worry | 16:45 |
| kenvandine | of course :) | 16:45 |
| seb128 | no whip but I can still assign bugs :p | 16:45 |
| kenvandine | seb128 always sees all | 16:45 |
| * didrocks hopes that his back with all the scars will disappear soon :) | 16:46 | |
| pitti | so, everyone else happy with their assigned specs for natty and their priorities? | 16:46 |
| TheMuso | lol | 16:46 |
| * pitti tries to imagine didrocks without a back | 16:46 | |
| didrocks | pitti: :p | 16:46 |
| kenvandine | haha | 16:47 |
| TheMuso | lol | 16:47 |
| pitti | aaanyway | 16:47 |
| pitti | so, we would like to try and be aggressive with getting our WIs ready for this cycle | 16:47 |
| rodrigo_ | I have no blueprints assigned, although at UDS I talked about me working on a few of them, I guess that's ok, the assignee is the 'driver'? | 16:47 |
| pitti | since we don't have that many BPs this time (yay), I think it sohld be feasible for everyone to get the WIs on their drafted specs ready this week, and set it to "pending approval" | 16:47 |
| pitti | objections? | 16:47 |
| kenvandine | rodrigo_, yeah, you may just get work items from other blueprints | 16:48 |
| rodrigo_ | ok | 16:48 |
| seb128 | pitti, seems fine | 16:48 |
| kenvandine | pitti, wfm, i think i have them all done already :) | 16:48 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: "drafter" is responsible for leading the UDS session, keeping notes, and expanding into work items and documentation; assignee does the implementation | 16:48 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: in a lot of cases that's one and the same person, of course | 16:48 |
| didrocks | pitti: apart from WI, as we discussed that we don't want anymore wiki page, what do we need to fill in the dashboard for you to approve the spec? | 16:48 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: so you'll probably earn some WIs from other people's specs | 16:48 |
| pitti | for review I need | 16:49 |
| rodrigo_ | pitti, ok then | 16:49 |
| pitti | - a detailled enough description to state problem, rationale, and approach to solution | 16:49 |
| pitti | - assignee in the desktop team | 16:49 |
| pitti | - work items must be clear and complete | 16:49 |
| seb128 | \o/ on no wiki | 16:49 |
| * didrocks +1 on \o/ no wiki | 16:50 | |
| pitti | IF the spec is so complex that it needs lots of explanation, feel free to link a wiki page | 16:50 |
| mterry | Wait, you don't want wiki links for blueprints? | 16:50 |
| pitti | but for most specs it shouldn't be required | 16:50 |
| pitti | mterry: well, s/want/require/ | 16:50 |
| seb128 | (I was not sure if somebody would complain about me not asking for wiki summary last cycle) | 16:50 |
| seb128 | (nice to see that others agree) | 16:50 |
| pitti | mterry: many specs are sufficiently well described in terms of detailled WIs | 16:50 |
| kenvandine | mterry, let me guess, you already drafted wiki pages? | 16:50 |
| seb128 | mterry, we just hate paperwork where it'sn not required ;-) | 16:50 |
| pitti | if I may quote my own spec, https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/performance-desktop-n-install-footprint has 56 WIs and clearly states "GOAL" and extra notes | 16:51 |
| bryceh | wow, no wiki writeups? interesting | 16:51 |
| mterry | kenvandine, :) | 16:51 |
| pitti | bryceh: as I said, if you want them as documentation or explanation, please do them | 16:52 |
| pitti | If a spec is not clear enough, I'll certainly follow up and complain :) | 16:52 |
| bryceh | fair enough :-) | 16:52 |
| * kenvandine just wishes the whiteboards in blueprints used wiki formating :/ | 16:52 | |
| kenvandine | or some kind of formating | 16:53 |
| pitti | one request: to allow me to sensibly track the status, please do set the status to "PENDING APPROVAL" once you are done with it and want a review | 16:53 |
| pitti | I WON'T look at specs in "drafting" | 16:53 |
| chrisccoulson | oops, meeting time :/ | 16:53 |
| kenvandine | ok | 16:53 |
| pitti | ok, cool | 16:53 |
| kenvandine | hey chrisccoulson, i think we are done, just assigned all the specs to you :) | 16:53 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 16:53 |
| pitti | anything more on specs from anyone? | 16:53 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks \o/ | 16:53 |
| * pitti hands back mike to jasoncwarner for going on with the agenda | 16:54 | |
| TheMuso | u/c | 16:54 |
| jasoncwarner | pitti: thanks | 16:54 |
| jasoncwarner | that was much crisper than if I had one that ;) | 16:55 |
| pitti | (I guess there's not much of a partner update at this early stage) | 16:55 |
| kenvandine | nope | 16:55 |
| kenvandine | :) | 16:55 |
| kenvandine | planning planning planning | 16:55 |
| kenvandine | moving along :) | 16:55 |
| jasoncwarner | So, high level, we wanted to get the BPs targeted to Natty and all WIs done this week. | 16:55 |
| kenvandine | WIs created, not done :) | 16:56 |
| jasoncwarner | pitti: agreed. Anyone have anything to say on partner update? | 16:56 |
| cyphermox__ | all WIs done this week? eep! ;) | 16:56 |
| pitti | cyphermox__: well, not ": DONE", just written up :) | 16:56 |
| chrisccoulson | it seems that pitti has done most of his already ;) | 16:56 |
| jasoncwarner | sorry, CREATED | 16:56 |
| jasoncwarner | :) | 16:56 |
| kenvandine | hehe | 16:56 |
| jasoncwarner | How about a Kubuntu update, is Riddell here? | 16:56 |
| pitti | with at most three specs each it should be feasible | 16:57 |
| pitti | if you have more stuff to do than you can write down in one week, you *definitively* have too much | 16:57 |
| Riddell | jasoncwarner: certainly am | 16:57 |
| Riddell | currently in the process of collating our Todo list | 16:57 |
| Riddell | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo/Natty is where it'll end up | 16:57 |
| Riddell | the notes from the sessions are up on the proceedings pages and I've tidied them all up now https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/UDSNatty | 16:58 |
| jasoncwarner | Riddell: awesome, thanks. timeframe for todo list? possible to get it settled this week to coincide with creation of work items? | 16:58 |
| Riddell | jasoncwarner: I'm doing it now, should take an hour or so | 16:58 |
| kenvandine | Riddell, can you also get me that bug # we had talked about? | 16:59 |
| pitti | Riddell: do you want me to set up a WI tracker for this, or do you and the Kubuntu community just use the wiki | 16:59 |
| Riddell | probably less, tidying up the session notes is what's taken most time | 16:59 |
| pitti | ? | 16:59 |
| Riddell | pitti: if you could set a WI tracker for that wiki page that would be interesting | 16:59 |
| Riddell | kenvandine: which one was that? | 16:59 |
| kenvandine | the qt one | 16:59 |
| pitti | Riddell: will look into that | 17:00 |
| kenvandine | we talked about on friday night | 17:00 |
| Riddell | kenvandine: which Qt bug? (I'm jet lagged, memory not working so great..) | 17:00 |
| Riddell | kenvandine: oh I know | 17:00 |
| kenvandine | something about the look of qt apps in gtk | 17:00 |
| Riddell | the gnome file dialogue one | 17:00 |
| Riddell | yes I'll find that out | 17:00 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 17:00 |
| kenvandine | thx | 17:00 |
| jasoncwarner | anything else? | 17:00 |
| jasoncwarner | Riddell: you'll work with pitti to setup WI tracker? Is that the approach? | 17:01 |
| pitti | jasoncwarner: sounds like an action for me | 17:01 |
| Riddell | yes | 17:01 |
| jasoncwarner | [ACTION] pitti setup WI tracker for Kubuntu | 17:01 |
| jasoncwarner | Ok. | 17:01 |
| jasoncwarner | There is a big action I guess | 17:01 |
| jasoncwarner | [ACTION] everyone write their specs and get them approved (forgive if I used wrong words ;) ) | 17:02 |
| pitti | jasoncwarner: sounds fine | 17:02 |
| TheMuso | Sounds about right. | 17:02 |
| jasoncwarner | Ok, what did we miss? Pitti? seb128? anything else we need to talk about? | 17:02 |
| pitti | jasoncwarner: nothing from me | 17:03 |
| pitti | no release status yet | 17:03 |
| pitti | since we don't have anything to release yet :) | 17:03 |
| pitti | so, that sounds like a wrap | 17:03 |
| seb128 | jasoncwarner, nothing from me either | 17:03 |
| jasoncwarner | Ok, if nothing else | 17:03 |
| jasoncwarner | I don't have a gavle or anything to officially end a meeting | 17:04 |
| jasoncwarner | so, uh, end of meeting! | 17:04 |
| seb128 | if you have some spare time this week please work on merges and sponsoring | 17:04 |
| pitti | not in this channel | 17:04 |
| * rickspencer3 hands jasoncwarner the gavel | 17:04 | |
| pitti | in #ubuntu-meeting, there is one actually :) (#endmeeting) | 17:04 |
| jasoncwarner | #endmeeting | 17:04 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: did you hand him your whip yet? | 17:04 |
| jasoncwarner | :) | 17:04 |
| TheMuso | heh | 17:04 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, I have kept the whip | 17:04 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: keep it, keep it :) | 17:04 |
| * kenvandine hears whip cracking noises | 17:04 | |
| didrocks | \o/ | 17:04 |
| bryceh | rickspencer3's gonna still need the whip | 17:04 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, merges from debian? | 17:04 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: right, you need it for the entire platform team now, to chase people into sponsoring | 17:05 |
| TheMuso | If anything, rickspencer3 will be thickening it I suspect... | 17:05 |
| pitti | jasoncwarner: sorry, you need to get your own | 17:05 |
| TheMuso | u...and adding a few more strands. | 17:05 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, yes | 17:05 |
| jasoncwarner | ;) | 17:05 |
| seb128 | would be nice to be done with merges early and to clean the sponsoring queue a bit | 17:06 |
| TheMuso | Afaik there are still a lot of new merges on mom | 17:06 |
| rickspencer3 | jasoncwarner, I always said "/me taps gavel" at the end of the meeting, so I could search for it in the logs | 17:06 |
| pitti | didrocks: please fix "u1 team" and "necessita" assignees in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-desktop-n-oneconf | 17:06 |
| rodrigo_ | necessita? :D | 17:06 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah, I'll chase for people now (there is also a dx team) :) | 17:06 |
| jasoncwarner | rickspencer3: good idea, I just searched for #endmeeting, but you're right... | 17:07 |
| pitti | didrocks: same for "armel team" in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-desktop-n-bringing-desktop-and-netbook-image-closer -- please assign to a person; team assignments don't really work for whip cracking :0 | 17:07 |
| jasoncwarner | rickspencer3: perhaps we can wrap the meeting with xml style opening and closing braces <sarcasm> meeting </sarcasm> ? That appropriate? ;) | 17:07 |
| pitti | jasoncwarner: #endmeeting is a mootbot command (like [ACTION], but it's not running here | 17:07 |
| rodrigo_ | didrocks, instead of u1 team, use 'chipaca', and he'll assign it to somebody to do the actual work | 17:07 |
| didrocks | rodrigo_: ok, great! I'll assign to dbarth for dx team as well then :) | 17:08 |
| Chipaca | indeed | 17:08 |
| pitti | didrocks: finally, "charline" doesn't exist in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-desktop-n-coherent-behavior-for-apps-in-messagingmenu | 17:08 |
| rodrigo_ | didrocks, oh, or you can just say 'chipaca' on irc and he shows up :D | 17:08 |
| Chipaca | as if by magic | 17:08 |
| rodrigo_ | yeah | 17:08 |
| kenvandine | magic! | 17:08 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah, same. I wasn't sure it was triggering bugs for you, but I can't find her on LP | 17:08 |
| didrocks | so, it's was more "WIP" | 17:09 |
| seb128 | didrocks, assign to ivanka I guess :p | 17:10 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, let's do that and see what happens :) | 17:10 |
| Riddell | pitti: this has an action item for RAOF, how do I get it onto his WI list? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/multimedia-kubuntu-n-x | 17:11 |
| didrocks | pitti: done done, done and done :) | 17:11 |
| * pitti hugs Riddell | 17:12 | |
| pitti | and didrocks | 17:12 |
| * didrocks hugs pitti back | 17:12 | |
| pitti | Riddell: it should already be | 17:12 |
| didrocks | no objection that I rename "UNE update" to "Unity update" in the meeting template? | 17:12 |
| pitti | Riddell: except that it's "raof" | 17:12 |
| Riddell | pitti: how does it know to include that blueprint? | 17:13 |
| rodrigo_ | kenvandine, ok, so what you needed then in json-glib? | 17:15 |
| didrocks | (I will take it as a "no" :)) | 17:15 |
| kenvandine | rodrigo_, just handle the parsing of it and produce an easier data type to return | 17:24 |
| kenvandine | so now you have to figure out what the root node type is and iterate over it, figuring out if there is nested types, etc | 17:25 |
| kenvandine | so maybe produce a hash table with <string,GLib.Value?> or something | 17:25 |
| ari-tczew | does Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, firefox | abrowser | www-browser makes sense in natty? firefox is not enough? | 17:25 |
| ricotz | rodrigo_, please use debian source format 3.0 for new packages like gsettings-desktop-schemas ;) | 17:25 |
| kenvandine | rodrigo_, where that value could be a nested hash table if needed | 17:26 |
| kenvandine | something like that | 17:26 |
| ari-tczew | chrisccoulson: around? | 17:26 |
| kenvandine | just takes a fair bit of code to figure out the right way to parse the json | 17:26 |
| jcastro | rodrigo_: are you working on the banshee U1 store issues? | 17:26 |
| kenvandine | depending on if the root object is a json array, etc | 17:26 |
| rodrigo_ | kenvandine, ok, I'll have a look at the code and see what can be done | 17:27 |
| kenvandine | ok | 17:27 |
| rodrigo_ | jcastro, no | 17:27 |
| ari-tczew | seb128: are you going to merge gnome* related packages in universe? | 17:28 |
| rodrigo_ | jcastro, but I guess I should, if nobody else does | 17:28 |
| seb128 | ari-tczew, who is you? | 17:28 |
| rodrigo_ | Chipaca, ^^(banshee U1 fixes) | 17:28 |
| seb128 | the team or me? | 17:28 |
| jcastro | rodrigo_: ok, do we have a list of regressions vs. the rhythmbox store? I know it's not exactly a 1 to 1 port. | 17:28 |
| seb128 | ari-tczew, I doubt we will | 17:28 |
| seb128 | well as time depends but we will probably be busy enough | 17:29 |
| rodrigo_ | jcastro, I know of a few bits, but it would be cool if someone did a real test of both to produce a list | 17:29 |
| Chipaca | aquarius has done something like that | 17:29 |
| Chipaca | aquarius: do you have a "list of regressions"? | 17:29 |
| ari-tczew | seb128: what do you want to know about me? MOTU member. I just saw your words: [18:06] <seb128> would be nice to be done with merges early and to clean the sponsoring queue a bit | 17:29 |
| Chipaca | aquarius: in my mind it's just "make the code better, and add u1mslinks" | 17:29 |
| seb128 | ari-tczew, ? not sure to understand the question | 17:30 |
| didrocks | Chipaca: also the dummy mp3 panel if we don't have mp3 support at start to trigger the codec download | 17:30 |
| seb128 | ari-tczew, oh, I was wondering if the "you" in your question was for me or the team | 17:30 |
| seb128 | ari-tczew, I didn't ask who you are ;-) | 17:31 |
| seb128 | sorry if that was not clear | 17:31 |
| ari-tczew | seb128: ok no problem | 17:31 |
| Chipaca | didrocks: and that | 17:31 |
| aquarius | Chipaca, so far it all works, other than u1mslinks, and I am shortly going to try actually buying a record to confirm that that works. Extra work: mp3 codec installer, u1mslinks, tweak to gconf to enable music store by default, add banshee-extension-ubuntuonemusicstore package by default. | 17:31 |
| seb128 | ari-tczew, well, feel free to claim universe merges, there is enough work for everybody | 17:31 |
| didrocks | aquarius: it's the xml file, not gconf to enable it by defaut | 17:32 |
| ari-tczew | seb128: ok. do you want to clean up sponsors queue? | 17:32 |
| aquarius | didrocks, yeah, an xml snippet somewhere, agreed | 17:32 |
| seb128 | ari-tczew, well, not me alone but yes we should clean it | 17:32 |
| Chipaca | jcastro: and, I've asked dobey to look into improving the quality of the plugin where and as needed, and will have mandel (and/or dobey -- it's not for a couple of months) add the missing bits | 17:32 |
| ari-tczew | seb128: I'm also on it. | 17:32 |
| seb128 | ok great | 17:33 |
| jcastro | dobey: ok if you need something fixed in upstream banshee tag it with "ubuntu" in the whiteboard on upstream bgo. | 17:33 |
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| jcastro | ^^ that goes for anyone who finds transition bugs in banshee | 17:34 |
| jcastro | the faster we triage them in upstream bgo the more time we'll have | 17:34 |
| seb128 | jcastro, define transition? | 17:37 |
| seb128 | jcastro, should we tag any bug forwarded from launchpad? | 17:37 |
| seb128 | or just specific ones for things which work in rb and not banshee? | 17:37 |
| jcastro | seb128: transition specific ones, specifically ones which need to have parity with rb. | 17:38 |
| seb128 | ok | 17:38 |
| jcastro | basically the things we discussed at the sessions | 17:38 |
| didrocks | thinking on that, we didn't discuss transitionning library, do we? | 17:38 |
| didrocks | (library as in "music library") | 17:38 |
| jcastro | we've been shipping the importer for like 2/3 releases at least | 17:38 |
| jcastro | that should be "2 or 3", not two-thirds! | 17:39 |
| didrocks | is it working fine? (we should have a look at bad interaction with u1 specifically) | 17:39 |
| jcastro | I think we should test it for sure | 17:39 |
| jcastro | let me add a needs-help wi in the spec for that | 17:39 |
| didrocks | jcastro: thanks :) | 17:39 |
| Riddell | jasoncwarner: our lengthy todo list https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | 17:43 |
| didrocks | jcastro: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdevs-dx-n-unity-places should be targetted to Natty | 17:46 |
| jasoncwarner | Riddell: awesome. Can you update the wiki with a link to that for posterity? thanks. | 17:48 |
| jcastro | didrocks: done | 17:49 |
| didrocks | jcastro: thanks! | 17:50 |
| Riddell | jasoncwarner: update the wiki? it is the wiki | 17:51 |
| jasoncwarner | Riddell: sorry, the team meeting recap wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2010-11-02 under the kubuntu section | 17:53 |
| Riddell | gotcha | 17:54 |
| pitti | Riddell: it knows that raof is a member of the desktop team | 17:55 |
| Riddell | pitti: ok but doesn't it need to be pointed at natty or something? | 17:56 |
| pitti | Riddell: it does, es | 17:56 |
| pitti | "yes" | 17:56 |
| pitti | Riddell: targetted to natty now | 18:04 |
| chrisccoulson | has anyone upgraded to natty yet? | 18:10 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: me | 18:10 |
| cyphermox__ | chrisccoulson, i did | 18:10 |
| pitti | since last Friday evening | 18:10 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, i guess i should do as well :) | 18:10 |
| pitti | but of course nothing really interesting happened yet, by and large some merges and new kernel | 18:11 |
| cyphermox__ | I don't regret it... lots of things seem to not compile | 18:11 |
| pitti | cyphermox__: due to gcc 4.5 being stricter? | 18:12 |
| cyphermox__ | pitti, I guess. | 18:13 |
| cyphermox__ | NM wasn't happy, neither were gtkhtml and evolution-data-server so far | 18:13 |
| didrocks | sport and dinner, see you tomorrow guys :) | 18:14 |
| pitti | night didrocks | 18:14 |
| cyphermox__ | didrocks, night! | 18:14 |
| * pitti throws new cdbs with automatic SVG compression nattywards | 18:14 | |
| cyphermox__ | wooo! | 18:15 |
| didrocks | night pitti, cyphermox__ :) | 18:15 |
| didrocks | pitti: great! | 18:15 |
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| dobey | Chipaca, aquarius: i think there's some odd differences in how it deals with adding stuff to the library, as well | 18:18 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, beside a daily update-apt-xapian-index crash, some annoying python warnings (like in bzr), some weird chromium session breakage, and of course the xul/ff lockdown you know about, natty is fine for me :P | 18:19 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - heh, i'll be using all the mozilla builds from maverick for the time being ;) | 18:19 |
| chrisccoulson | although, i'll probably switch off -pie later to stop the hanging | 18:19 |
| fta | oh, emacs23 weird too, if you use that | 18:20 |
| chrisccoulson | nah, i don't use that | 18:20 |
| chrisccoulson | vim ftw :) | 18:21 |
| chrisccoulson | wooh, over 1GB to download | 18:21 |
| fta | vim for quick edits, emacs for real development | 18:21 |
| mterry | seb128, natty version of gtk3 with gir in PPA (and code in lp:~mterry/+junk/ubuntugtk3) | 18:26 |
| seb128 | mterry, waouh! | 18:28 |
| seb128 | mterry, did you get any luck with the gir question? | 18:28 |
| seb128 | mterry, I will review it tomorrow morning (gtk3) | 18:29 |
| seb128 | if I spot nothing let's upload tomorrow | 18:29 |
| mterry | seb128, no luck | 18:29 |
| mterry | k | 18:29 |
| ricotz | mterry, just a minor thing | 18:31 |
| ricotz | mterry, the libgtk3.0-0.symbols shouldnt include things like "2.91.2-0ubuntu1~build1" | 18:32 |
| mterry | ricotz, I agree. Should be just 2.91.2 | 18:32 |
| ricotz | yes | 18:32 |
| mterry | ricotz, I let some slip in? Hrm | 18:32 |
| Sarvatt_ | ok so tomorrow's the day we should stop updating natty if we want a working system? :) | 18:32 |
| seb128 | Sarvatt_, no, new gtk is a separate version | 18:33 |
| seb128 | nothing will really use it before a month at least | 18:33 |
| seb128 | we will build the stack around it first | 18:33 |
| seb128 | mterry, sorry closed the dialog, did you reply? | 18:33 |
| seb128 | to the gir question | 18:33 |
| ricotz | Sarvatt_, yeah like kernel 2.6.37-rc1 ;-) | 18:33 |
| seb128 | mterry, how do you update the symbol file? | 18:33 |
| mterry | seb128, either by hand or copy the new one over and sed away the suffixes for the versions | 18:34 |
| mterry | seb128, I said "no luck" (re: my gir question) and "k" (re: review/upload tomorrow) | 18:35 |
| seb128 | mterry, you should use dpkg-gensymbols -v | 18:35 |
| seb128 | dpkg-gensymbols -v2.91.2 | 18:35 |
| mterry | seb128, well fancy fancy | 18:35 |
| seb128 | I usually copy the log line when it fails, add the -v and -O | 18:35 |
| seb128 | then debuild binary | 18:35 |
| seb128 | then after the build copy the .symbols over | 18:35 |
| mterry | seb128, ricotz: bzr blame indicts didrocks | 18:36 |
| mterry | I'll fix and push to branch | 18:37 |
| seb128 | thanks | 18:37 |
| mterry | done | 18:38 |
| bryceh | pitti, I think I found your twin: http://www.ted.com/talks/david_bismark_e_voting_without_fraud.html | 19:05 |
| pitti | haha | 19:06 |
| kklimonda_ | seb128: are debian gnome packagers still use cdbs or are they switching to dh7? Or, if I'd like to help them on packaging gtkmm 2.22.0 (which requires me to create a new package for atkm) should I use cdbs, dh7 or just ask the current maintainer? | 19:39 |
| seb128 | better to use the same build system than gtkmm | 19:39 |
| kklimonda_ | ok | 19:39 |
| seb128 | thanks for working on that update | 19:40 |
| seb128 | it's one of the one we didn't do last cycle and which would be nice to get | 19:40 |
| TheMuso | Happy to work on atkmm, as we may end up using it for unity. | 19:42 |
| TheMuso | kklimonda_: Do ou know if there is any existing packaging for atkmm anywhere? | 19:44 |
| kklimonda_ | TheMuso: I couldn't find it anywhere, there is also no ITP bug on bts | 19:45 |
| TheMuso | kklimonda_: ah ok. | 19:46 |
| kklimonda_ | TheMuso: by anywhere I mean their svn repository - I've sent an email to maintainer (and gnome packager group on alioth) asking about it but I didn't get an answer yet so I've decided to ask some initial questions. I'll probably wait till weekend before I do any real work in case if someone has been working on a branch privately. | 19:47 |
| TheMuso | kklimonda_: Fair enough. | 19:48 |
| TheMuso | Worth noting that atkmm used to be part of gtkmm. | 19:50 |
| * TheMuso was able to build it here with little effort. | 19:50 | |
| Sir_Konrad | Ok I'm back. I can view the meeting's transcript on the wiki? | 20:06 |
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| pitti | Sir_Konrad: irc.ubuntu.com has logs | 20:07 |
| Sir_Konrad | ok thanks pitti. Any chance Jono Bacon comes in here? | 20:08 |
| pitti | Sir_Konrad: try #ubuntu-devel | 20:08 |
| Sir_Konrad | ok. Thanks. :) | 20:08 |
| seb128 | he's on this channel... | 20:09 |
| jono | Sir_Konrad, hey | 20:09 |
| Sir_Konrad | Hey jono! | 20:09 |
| jono | hey Sir_Konrad! | 20:09 |
| Sir_Konrad | jono, just wanted to thank you for all the great work you've done, and I have to say FLOSS Weekly isn't worth listening to anymore. :P | 20:10 |
| jono | Sir_Konrad, thanks so much, the work is really the folks in here, not me :-) | 20:11 |
| jono | I just help the community to do their thing :) | 20:11 |
| Sir_Konrad | jono, ah still, you really helped pull me into the art of community. ;) | 20:12 |
| jono | Sir_Konrad, thanks, so much! glad you enjoyed it :-) | 20:13 |
| chmrr | Can someone take a gander at merging https://code.launchpad.net/~broder/gnome-terminal/fix-37767/+merge/39887 ? | 20:14 |
| Sir_Konrad | whoa sorry about that jono and everyone else. o.O | 20:15 |
| Sir_Konrad | yeah anyway jono, thanks again. Can't wait to start working on 11.04 with everyone this go around. | 20:16 |
| jono | Sir_Konrad, awesome, hope to see you participating in Ubuntu :-) | 20:16 |
| Sir_Konrad | Oh I will be jono. I'll be active in a lot of these channels for awhile, so I guess I'll see you around. ;) | 20:17 |
| jono | Sir_Konrad, sweet! | 20:17 |
| jono | have fun! | 20:17 |
| Sir_Konrad | Thanks jono! See ya around. :) | 20:17 |
| jono | bye! | 20:18 |
| Sir_Konrad | Bye. :D | 20:18 |
| Sir_Konrad | I'll brb everyone, switching into Unity | 20:19 |
| Sir_Konrad | eh... something tells me Maverick and Unity are built for eachother. Lucid and Unity... not so much. | 20:33 |
| kenvandine | seb128, can you sponsor lp:~ken-vandine/ubuntu/maverick/x264/maverick-proposed | 21:19 |
| kenvandine | ? | 21:19 |
| kenvandine | for bug 663535 | 21:19 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 663535 in x264 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "Extreme poor Video Quality in Empathy (jabber) (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/663535 | 21:19 |
| * kenvandine heads afk for a bit | 21:20 | |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ok, will do | 21:29 |
| Sir_Konrad | so how do I become part of the desktop team? | 21:36 |
| seb128 | Sir_Konrad, contribute to desktop work there | 21:41 |
| seb128 | work on fixing issues and send patches for those | 21:41 |
| seb128 | or work on updates | 21:41 |
| Sir_Konrad | seb128, ah ok. | 21:41 |
| seb128 | or work on merges from debian | 21:41 |
| Sir_Konrad | thanks seb128 | 21:48 |
| Sir_Konrad | brb | 21:48 |
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| lamalex | evolution keeps segfaulting :\ | 22:40 |
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| robert_ancell | rodrigo_, hey | 22:49 |
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| rodrigo_ | hey robert_ancell | 23:35 |
| Sir_Konrad | hey rodrigo_ | 23:37 |
| rodrigo_ | hi Sir_Konrad | 23:37 |
| Sir_Konrad | what's up? | 23:37 |
| rodrigo_ | nothing really, just checking mail before going to sleep :) | 23:38 |
| Sir_Konrad | rodrigo_, :) | 23:38 |
| robert_ancell | rodrigo_, hey, was wondering what you were doing up :) | 23:59 |
| rodrigo_ | robert_ancell, now? :) | 23:59 |
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