[05:15] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I updated the ff4 transition blueprint, feel free to take any rdepends you want, I know you'll be busy with the PGO and Global Menu stuff, so I assigned most of them to myself
[09:26] <Cobalt> Hello. Hmm. Reading the topic saved me a redundant question. Thanks guys.
[14:47] <asac> chrisccoulson: so firefox on ubuntu has bad redirecting issues
[14:47] <asac> have you seen that?
[14:47] <asac> try going to the caribe royal homepage to see it
[14:47] <asac> bah ... usually chrome works, but now even that does not work for the link i have :((
[14:48] <chrisccoulson> asac - yeah, i noticed that it doesn't work on FF4.0
[14:48] <chrisccoulson> it's on my list of things to look at
[14:48] <chrisccoulson> it should be working on 3.6 though
[14:50] <asac> chrisccoulson: i am using 3.6
[14:51] <chrisccoulson> asac - oh, that worked on 3.6 just a few days ago
[14:51] <chrisccoulson> but i got the issue on 4.0
[14:52] <asac> chrisccoulson: http://www.thecaribeorlando.com/caribe-royale/
[14:52] <asac> that link
[14:53] <chrisccoulson> asac- that's working here on 3.6
[14:53]  * chrisccoulson clears cache and tries again
[14:55] <asac> chrisccoulson: i use namaroka dailies and it didnt work since the first day i tried to navigate to that site
[14:55] <asac> so quite a while ago
[14:56] <chrisccoulson> hmmmm, that's strange
[15:20] <micahg> chrisccoulson: did you see my message about the blueprint?
[15:21] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, thanks. i think that was before i was awake ;)
[15:21] <micahg> yeah
[15:23] <nxvl> fta: ping
[15:24] <micahg> chrisccoulson: ok, I just caught up on blueprint email, so, the TB on Ubuntu spec I marked as deferred since we're not doing it this cycle, jcastro said he didn't need it for the work item
[15:24] <jcastro> woo
[15:25] <chrisccoulson> ah, i guess i need to add my work items somewhere else
[15:25] <chrisccoulson> that has 2 of my biggest work items, and they don't show up in the tracker ;)
[15:25] <chrisccoulson> oh
[15:25] <chrisccoulson> hang on
[15:25] <chrisccoulson> wrong blueprint ;)
[15:25] <jcastro> did you commit to the xul menu yet?
[15:25] <micahg> chrisccoulson: right, maybe add it to the indicator one?
[15:26] <chrisccoulson> oh, yeah, there's just one work item for me there
[16:28] <fta> hi
[16:34] <fta> jdstrand, thanks!
[16:35] <jdstrand> fta: sure! I'm sorry it took so long. got sidetracked at UDS, but glad we got some other feedback along the way anyway
[17:14] <fta> jdstrand, now that SRU exception has been granted, which step(s) will we skip/shorten?
[17:22] <jdstrand> fta: still need to build in security ppa, then copy to -proposed, then someone needs to run it through qa-regression-testing. once that is done, can pocket copy to -security and -updates without waiting
[17:23] <jdstrand> fta: basically, give the packages to me for review, then I'll upload, test and publish
[17:23] <fta> ok, so for me, it's all the same
[17:23] <jdstrand> yeah
[17:27] <fta> good
[18:09] <ari-tczew> does Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, firefox | abrowser | www-browser makes sense in natty? firefox is not enough?
[18:09] <chrisccoulson> Why is firefox not enough?
[18:12] <ari-tczew> chrisccoulson: I think that firefox IS enough. does abrowser is needed?
[18:12] <ari-tczew> also, I can't find binary package www-browser
[18:12] <chrisccoulson> ari-tczew, it's a virtual package
[18:13] <ari-tczew> chrisccoulson: I'd like to merge package wysihtml, where fta is last uploader. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wysihtml/0.13-5ubuntu2
[18:13] <ari-tczew> do I need to keep these dependces?
[18:13] <chrisccoulson> yes
[18:14] <fta> ari-tczew, feel free to adopt that package (i don't even remember what i did in there) ;)
[18:14] <ari-tczew> fta: I don't want adopt. I want to merge only. :)
[18:16] <chrisccoulson> right, natty here i come
[18:54] <chrisccoulson> asac - do you still want to maintain ubufox? i'd like to port it to FF4.0 this week :)
[18:55] <asac> chrisccoulson: whats broken? what would it take?
[18:55] <asac> old style extensions dont work anymore, heh?
[18:56] <chrisccoulson> asac - component registration has changed a fair bit
[18:56] <asac> ok
[18:56] <chrisccoulson> the about:home handler also now conflicts with firefox own handler
[18:57] <asac> chrisccoulson: hmm. seems was not so wise decision ;)
[18:57] <asac> we can migrate away i guess
[18:57] <chrisccoulson> yeah, should be ok
[18:57] <asac> chrisccoulson: do you have a pointer on MDC what changed for ffx40 wrt ext writing?
[18:57] <chrisccoulson> also, i want to make it use the new doorhanger notifications for the restart notification
[18:57] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, let me look
[18:58] <asac> will the doorhanger notificaitons stay around? or collapse and become invisible?
[18:59] <asac> i mean once we solve the "ffox goes crazy" issue ... that would be ok if its accessible elsewhere, but as long as firefox is becoming quickly bad we want that to stay on top as a big reminder ;)
[18:59] <chrisccoulson> they don't collapse and become invisible - they require the user to click them away, but the icon remains to the left of the addressbar once they've done that
[18:59] <asac> ah
[18:59] <asac> should be fine
[19:00] <chrisccoulson> i'm not sure if there is any one place with a list of changes for extension writers, but the 2 main changes i've had to deal with already are: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/XPCOM/XPCOM_changes_in_Gecko_2.0
[19:00] <chrisccoulson> and nsIExtensionManager being removed
[19:00] <asac> what icon will you use on the left for the restart required ;)
[19:00] <asac> ?
[19:00] <chrisccoulson> heh, not sure ;)
[19:00] <asac> ask design team for now ;)
[19:00] <asac> or is there evne a spec?
[19:00] <chrisccoulson> i don't think there is a spec
[19:00] <asac> "There are no longer any frozen interfaces; from now on, all interfaces are subject to change. Documentation will be updated as time allows to remove references to interfaces being "frozen" or "unfrozen.""
[19:01] <chrisccoulson> yeah, that's going to be difficult for native stuff
[19:01] <chrisccoulson> the JS interfaces are mostly ok
[19:22] <fta> asac, \o/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates/MicroReleaseExceptions
[20:17] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, i guess i should try to reboot now
[20:18] <chrisccoulson> if i'm not back in a few minutes, then the upgrade didn't go too well ;)
[20:30] <fta> chrisccoulson, :)
[20:30] <chrisccoulson> it worked ;)
[22:27] <ari-tczew> fta: is nspluginwrapper free for merge with Debian?
[22:28] <fta> ari-tczew, hmm.. i think so. iirc, micahg wanted to do something a while ago, not sure it's still standing
[22:28] <micahg> ari-tczew: it's broke ATM and it needs testing before it can be merged
[22:29] <ari-tczew> micahg: are you on it?
[22:29] <micahg> ari-tczew: yes, it was on my list for last cycle, it's dead upstream, 1.3.0 was actually a developement version
[22:29] <fta> i was supposed to add a patch from google.. did i do it?? hmm.. bad memory
[22:29] <micahg> that's why it'll need more testing than a normal merge
[22:30] <micahg> fta: yes, I think that's the ubuntu8 revision
[22:30] <fta> ok, good.
[22:30] <ari-tczew> if this package is on your crosshairs then good
[22:30]  * micahg wants to do away with nspluginwrapper at least for Firefox
[22:31] <micahg> mutliarch FTW (or 64 bit flash)
[22:40] <fta> micahg, we've been talking about multiarch for many years, each time, it evades away due to lack of resources
[22:40] <micahg> fta: slangasek said it's happening this time
[22:41] <fta> micahg, i saw it on the agenda of uds, but didn't listen to this session
[22:42] <fta> but i've attended some in the past, at least 3, each time, it was almost there :)
[22:44] <fta> jcastro, is there a place somewhere with all the recordings from uds? i know only of the miro page which is incomplete
[22:46] <fta> chrisccoulson, isn't it easier to just debug "xulrunner-1.9.2 --gre-version" rather than the full firefox?
[22:47] <chrisccoulson> fta - it doesn't make any difference to me
[22:47] <chrisccoulson> it freezes even before getting to main()
[22:47] <chrisccoulson> if it failed later on, then it might be easier ;)
[22:50] <fta> ok
[22:50] <fta> maybe it's caused by the linker changes. you mix tcmalloc and malloc or something
[22:51] <fta> happened to me a lot with chromium in the past
[22:54] <jcastro> fta: they get uploaded to ubuntudevelopers.blip.tv, I noticed friday hasn't been uploaded yet
[23:04] <fta> jcastro, thanks. is there only 1 video quality? can't find anything in the blip ui to change it :P
[23:05] <chrisccoulson> right, my head feels like it's going to explode
[23:05] <chrisccoulson> too much assembler for one evening