[01:45] <EricThibault> Is there an admin online I could talk to?
[03:19] <cprofitt> night all
[06:51] <alourie> good morning
[06:54] <UndiFineD> :D
[07:58] <ara> good morning all!
[09:33] <alourie> ara: hello!
[09:33] <ara> good morning alourie
[09:33] <ara> morning jibel
[09:33] <jibel> Good morning ara!
[09:33] <jibel> how was your flight back ?
[09:34] <ara> jibel, it was good, thanks, I slept most of the time
[09:34] <ara> jibel, and yours?
[09:36] <jibel> my flight was okay, only 30 minutes late. There were still strikes in France and I've got the only train to back home. So everything is fine.
[09:36] <ara> good :)
[09:38] <ara> jibel, I am working on mago, so make sure you pull the latests changes quite often
[09:38] <ara> jibel, right now I am fixing the seahorse tests
[09:38] <ara> jibel, and I just merged into trunk a branch that I had pending that makes the code a bit cleaner
[09:41] <jibel> ara, okay. I'm cleaning the maverick-proposed queue and will start working on mago this afternoon.
[09:41] <ara> jibel, cool
[09:55] <alourie> ara: I'd like to get involved in mago related activity. Is there anything beyond following your code?
[09:55] <ara> alourie, you can check the documentation at http://mago.ubuntu.com
[09:56] <alourie> ara: done that
[09:57] <ara> alourie, OK, then you can start writing tests as soon as you can
[09:57] <ara> alourie, branch the code and propose merges when they are ready
[09:58] <alourie> ara: ok :-)
[10:03] <alourie> ara: is there a list of apps that are "must do"?
[10:10] <ara> alourie, I am afraid that there is not, but you can go with any applications in main that are not yet covered
[10:37] <alourie> ara: ok
[10:37] <alourie> thanks
[10:37] <ara> any time
[12:46] <charlie-tca> Good Morning, everybody
[13:07] <jibel> Good morning charlie-tca!
[13:09] <davmor2> morning charlie-tca
[13:10] <charlie-tca> I am glad to see we all made it back home?
[13:26] <Sir_Konrad> g'morning charlie-tca!
[13:26] <cprofitt> morning charlie-tca and Sir_Konrad
[13:31] <Sir_Konrad> good morning cprofitt
[13:54] <charlie-tca> davmor2: missed you at UDS.
[13:55] <davmor2> charlie-tca: Wasn't there only via remote
[14:47] <charlie-tca> cprofitt: I made some updates to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility/doc/StartGuide
[14:47] <charlie-tca> Can you make sure it works with the guidelines for that wiki?
[14:48] <cprofitt> looking now
[14:48] <cprofitt> I was some last night too
[14:49] <cprofitt> what do you mean guidelines?
[14:50] <charlie-tca> That help wiki uses different guides than the developer wiki
[14:50] <cprofitt> well... I am not 100% up on the specifics for that wiki, but it looks fine to me
[14:50] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[14:50] <cprofitt> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DocumentationTemplate
[14:51] <cprofitt> that is the template I am familiar with -- and that page still fits inside that
[14:51] <charlie-tca> yeah, that one
[14:51] <charlie-tca> I can't really find that when I need to
[14:51] <cprofitt> I think we all have that issue
[14:51] <cprofitt> I do it daily
[14:51] <cprofitt> :-)
[14:51] <charlie-tca> heh
[14:52] <charlie-tca> Well, I think it can be used now, anyway
[14:52] <cprofitt> yes, it looks w/in spec to me
[14:52] <cprofitt> and the information is good
[15:06] <ara> hey charlie-tca, it was great to meet you in person at UDS :)
[15:15] <charlie-tca> Same here, ara
[15:15] <charlie-tca> I think I am still in a big of a fog, having gotten to meet so many of the names I know.
[15:16] <charlie-tca> It was GREAT!
[15:19] <ara> yes, it was, indeed :)
[15:24] <fader> charlie-tca: What ara said ;)
[15:27] <ara> hey fader
[15:27] <fader> ara: Hey, did you make it home safely?
[15:28] <ara> fader, yes, thank you. I slept most of the time on the plane, so I recovered much better from jet lag than in my way in
[15:28] <ara> fader, yourself? having fun with so many Canonical people around town?
[15:28] <fader> ara: Glad to hear it :)
[15:28] <charlie-tca> Thanks, fader
[15:29] <fader> charlie-tca: I'm looking forward to seeing the a11y testcases :D
[15:29] <fader> ara: Yeah, I came into the office today and it is quite crowded
[15:30] <charlie-tca> I am working on them, too.
[15:31] <fader> Excellent!
[15:31] <charlie-tca> I got it work, after many attempts, at least.
[15:31] <fader> Yeah, it sounded from our chat like there was a lot of room for improvement
[15:32] <charlie-tca> I think "a lot" leaves a big hole... I will update the documentation as I write testcases. It should be easier that way
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[17:21] <mainerror> so is the qa meeting going to be for the testing team? like it the testing team a sub-team of qa?
[17:38] <charlie-tca> mainerror: yes, testing is a qa team
[17:38] <charlie-tca> yes, we discuss testing at the meeting, also.
[17:40] <mainerror> alright very good
[17:40] <mainerror> thanks
[17:40] <charlie-tca> no problem
[17:41] <mainerror> in my opinion the laptop testing has to be looked at a bit, I'm talking about updating the procedures and so on
[17:42] <mainerror> they seem quite dated
[17:50] <charlie-tca> Things tend to change rapidly. It takes a lot of work to keep things current
[18:06] <cr3> charlie-tca: do you think it would be useful to have test suites, or individual tests even, available on an interface that supported rating? so, good tests would be predominant and bad tests would eventually disappear?
[18:08]  * cr3 is dreaming of a client like the software center presented during uds which supported selection and rating of test suites
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[18:22] <charlie-tca> I hadn't thought about it, but I could see an issue with a test that gets run once every milestone vs tests that get run many times
[18:23] <charlie-tca> Some of the application tests may only be run one time a cycle, but they are as important as the whole disk install which gets run numerous times each milestone