[00:32] <Thermi> gn8
[00:57] <johnny77> I added a submenu to the applications menu. It works, but the icons for the submenu are not appearing. Any ideas?
[00:59] <johnny77> When I login, in the sessions menu, I have a choice for XFCE and Xubunut. What is the difference?
[01:00] <charlie-tca> johnny77: the difference is the customizations done for Xubuntu.
[01:02] <johnny77> charlie-tca: Customizations I did? Or was made to XFCE as it was packaged into Xubuntu?
[01:03] <charlie-tca> customizations the Xubuntu Development Team does
[01:04] <charlie-tca> You can try each session to see what it looks like.
[01:54] <xGrind> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-media/+bug/652444
[01:58] <charlie-tca> yes, that is closed. Are you having an issue similar to that?
[01:59] <xGrind> charlie-tca; me?
[01:59] <charlie-tca> yes
[01:59] <xGrind> yes.
[01:59] <charlie-tca> xGrind: yup
[02:00] <xGrind> I went back to 10.04
[02:01] <charlie-tca> So... it is no longer valid for you?
[02:01] <charlie-tca> That report is formatted in a way that is very difficult for developers to read. That's why we ask for the new report
[02:02] <xGrind> the sound is bad. arrives to crash the system
[02:02] <charlie-tca> Did you file the report like I asked earlier?
[02:03] <xGrind> yes
[02:03] <charlie-tca> Great! Maybe we can get it fixed then.
[02:04] <xGrind> I read that kill pulseaudio and restart it solves the problem
[02:06] <charlie-tca> Sometimes we have to compare many reports side-by-side to find the actual issue. It may turn out to be a single line of code causing the problem.
[02:26] <xGrind> charlie-tca; and if I remove the pulseaudio?
[02:49] <charlie-tca> pulseaudio is a sound server. It allows more than one input to the sound card at a time if needed.
[02:49] <charlie-tca> Example, in Virtualbox installs, I can have sound from both the host and the guest at the same time using pulse audio
[02:50] <charlie-tca> If I don't use pulseaudio, I can have sound from either the host or the guest, but not both
[02:51] <charlie-tca> Removing it will simply change the controls to alsa instead of pulse audio. It is a valid workaround for some issues
[02:53] <xGrind> but
[02:53] <charlie-tca> ??
[02:53] <charlie-tca> Try removing it. It is easy to reinstall
[02:54] <xGrind> and if installand if I remove and install the pulseaudio mixer again?
[02:54] <xGrind> Ouvir
[02:54] <xGrind> Ler foneticamente
[02:54] <xGrind> and if I remove and install the pulseaudio mixer again?*
[02:54] <charlie-tca> If you don't need it, it could work
[02:55] <charlie-tca> The other one that sometimes works is to reinstall "alsa-base" or "alsa-utils"
[02:56] <xGrind> ok
[02:56] <charlie-tca> I am trying to pin down another bug now, involving sound disappearing completely.
[02:57] <xGrind> you are programming team of xubuntu?
[02:57] <charlie-tca> no, I don't program
[02:57] <charlie-tca> I am the bug triage guy and the testing guy
[02:58] <charlie-tca> I also triage the accessibility bugs, kernel bugs, and test accessibility
[03:03] <charlie-tca> xGrind: I pretty much look at every bug filed against Xubuntu, and get to help a user once in a while
[03:04] <xGrind> i tI help to translate the xfce
[03:04] <xGrind> =]
[03:04] <xGrind> i help to translate the xfce
[03:04] <charlie-tca> Great! I admire the translators a lot
[03:04] <xGrind> \o
[03:04] <charlie-tca> It is very hard to be able to do translations
[03:19] <charlie-tca> Well, that's it tonight. Going to bed now.
[03:24] <xGrind> charlie-tca; good night
[03:24] <xGrind> \o
[05:02] <Balsaq> good morning engineers, coders, technicians, software junkies and casual observers....
[08:08] <Kenran> hi
[08:08] <Kenran> I'm having a problem with my xubuntu which I installed yesterday
[08:09] <Kenran> I use xubuntu dually to Win7
[08:10] <Kenran> and yesterday evening, everything still worked fine. when restarting, I could choose what OS to boot
[08:10] <Kenran> but right now I started my computer, and I just got a GRUB error
[08:13] <Kenran> everything I saw then was a prompt where I didn't know what to type
[08:14] <moetunes> !grub2
[08:14] <Kenran> hm okay, I'm gonna try this, thank you
[16:59] <delirus> is anyone else having a problem with the buggy beta nvidia drivers?
[17:00] <moetunes> lots of ppl are apparently
[17:01] <delirus> :\
[17:02] <delirus> ah, I suppose that means it'll be fixed soon then
[17:02] <moetunes> "could" be - nvidia make no money from it tho
[17:03] <delirus> could be that it's clearly marked "beta" and shouldn't have been included in ubuntu? :\
[17:04] <moetunes> aren't all there linux drivers betas...
[17:04] <moetunes> *their
[17:12] <delirus> there are plenty of stable nvidia drivers to choose from
[17:13] <moetunes> it seems to work for most folk going back the opensource drivers when the nvidia ones don't work
[17:14] <Sysi> there's no 3D acceleration but otherly no problems with nouveau
[17:14] <Sysi> even dualhead works great
[17:16] <delirus> erm
[17:16] <delirus> yeah.... but what if one actually got their nvidia cards sothey could... y'know... use 'em for 3D? :\
[17:18] <Sysi> if you got old nvidia, nvidia don't want that you use it
[17:18] <delirus> ?
[17:19] <Sysi> downside of propietary
[17:19] <Sysi> business
[17:19] <delirus> never had a problem with (stable) nvidia drivers here
[17:19] <Sysi> i had
[17:20] <Sysi> i think i reinstalled my system about three times for that
[17:20] <Sysi> fourth time was success, on kubuntu
[17:20] <Sysi> now i would like to update but i really don't dare
[17:21] <Sysi> (first time it happened i fixed it on more linux way but couldn't now find solution)
[19:22] <factran> hi, I've got a wifi problem with my xubuntu.
[19:22] <factran> the interface wifi0 is up,
[19:23] <factran> network manager doent'connect : it stay gree, trying to connect.
[19:23] <factran> the passwords are corret
[19:23] <factran> Have you an idea ?
[19:24] <likemindead> You can see the network you want to connect to?
[19:24] <factran> no, i have to pass throught "connect to an invisble network"
[19:24] <factran> that is strange.
[19:25] <likemindead> Is it a hidden network?
[19:25] <factran> no
[19:25] <factran> sudo iwlist scan says "wifi0 : no scan result"
[19:25] <likemindead> !wireless
[19:25] <factran> thks
[19:31] <factran> arf. It works sudenly and I don't know why :/
[19:33] <likemindead> Hmm... You might try using Wicd as an alternative.
[19:33] <likemindead> !wicd
[19:33] <likemindead> http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[19:37] <factran> while i was updating, i saw taht my pc was completely out of date. I think I should upgrade
[19:38] <mark76> Is it a Pentium III?
[19:43] <charlie-tca> Update before upgrading , please. It can mess things up pretty bad trying to update old packages
[19:43] <charlie-tca> rather trying to upgrade old packages
[21:26] <rikmor18> how do i clear a bios password on an HP dc7100?  it doesn't have the jumper cable on the cmos/password terminal.  i can't load a live cd because the bootpath looks in the hard drive first, and I can't change it without a bios password.
[21:27] <delirus_> any clean way to get the nvidia drivers that came with 10.04, into 10.10?
[21:27] <Sysi> reinstall them?
[21:27] <delirus_> erm
[21:27] <Sysi> rikmor18: take bios battery off for a moment
[21:27] <delirus_> if I reinstall them, then I'll still have the ones from 10.10
[21:27] <Sysi> i guess there should be same drivers available
[21:28] <delirus_> the ones provided with 10.10 are buggy to the point of being criminal
[21:28] <Sysi> different version?
[21:28] <rikmor18> sysi: for how long?  and would it matter if that cmos/password jumper isnt installed? in other words, do i need that jumper o nthere for the computer to run properly?
[21:28] <delirus_> ooooh yeah
[21:28] <delirus_> a version that I read cases permanent damage to graphics cards :p
[21:28] <delirus_> I was shocked when I saw the version number
[21:28] <Sysi> rikmor18: i know nothing about jumpers, not very long
[21:29] <rikmor18> not very long?
[21:29] <rikmor18> oh the battery. got it.
[21:29] <rikmor18> I'll try that. thanks.
[21:49] <sinisterstuf> I installed SLIM now my computer doesn't start anymore, what can I do?
[21:50] <likemindead> It doesn't start at all?
[21:50] <sinisterstuf> well it does
[21:50] <sinisterstuf> but it seems to be frozen
[21:51] <sinisterstuf> there is a black screen with a white 'underline' cursor  which usually flashes until the login screen loads
[21:51] <sinisterstuf> it isn' flashing, it just does nothing
[21:51] <sinisterstuf> I tried rebooting twice
[21:51] <likemindead> You removed GDM and installed SLiM?
[21:51] <sinisterstuf> and I've left it like that for 5 hours no still no change
[21:51] <sinisterstuf> GDM is not removed, it told me I can have 2 lopgin managers installed but only once can work at once so I selected SLIM
[21:51] <sinisterstuf> GDM is still there
[21:52] <sinisterstuf> just isn't used
[21:52] <sinisterstuf> *login managers
[21:53] <likemindead> Can you Alt-Ctrl-F2 to get a CLI login?
[21:53] <sinisterstuf> nope
[21:54] <likemindead> You might read up on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery ...
[21:55] <sinisterstuf> hehe thanks!
[21:56] <sinisterstuf> I just pressed Ctrl+Alt+Backspace and that seems to have done something
[21:56] <sinisterstuf> now I can Ctrl+Alt+F2
[21:56] <sinisterstuf> very strange
[22:10] <sinisterstuf> fixed it by reconfiguring to use gdm, shame that slim doesn't work
[23:30] <mlsmith> My laptop screen doesn't turn off when I shut the lid but I do have it set up to do that. Any thoughts? It's set to turn the display off after 15 minutes but I haven't seen that happen either.
[23:30] <mlsmith> Sorry if somebody answered me on Sunday when I asked this the first time..my Internet was acting wonky.