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judgenIs there any good minimalistic desktop enviroments made with qt like the antico project that is still developed?00:08
Kalidarnhmm for some reason pinentry comes up 3 times and i dont get a change to enter a password00:14
Kalidarnits like it enters one in for me :(00:14
Kalidarn[01:23] <FeasibilityStudy> Anyone having issues with pinentry-qt4 failing with Lucid?  When it pops up, it doesnt give time to enter the password, it just blinks 3 times and says incorrect password.00:15
Kalidarnlooks like im not the ony one00:15
Kalidarnhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pinentry-qt4/+bug/371178 looks like its broken in kubuntu :P00:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 371178 in pinentry-qt4 (Ubuntu) "pinentry-qt4 doesn't prompt for a password when trying to read an encrypted email in Kmail" [Undecided,New]00:19
smoophhi i am looking for a way to shutdown my pc remotly00:23
smoophright now i use ssh with "shutdown -h now" but i think its forcing a hard shutdown where kde isn't turned off correctly00:24
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SCWLstmpHello everyone01:40
gizmobayHi01:40
SCWLstmpDoes anyone have any ideas to print multiple files in one go? Akin to the old KDE 3.x method of selecting multiple, right click, print01:40
SCWLstmpSome basic googling has found people gripping about this functionality no longer being present in KDE, but I haven't found any solutions really.01:41
nbndshi there! i'd like to know if kde 4.5.2 has oficially arrived to 10.10? i did just testd it on fedora 14, its awesome and the  and no more lags!02:26
DarthFrognbnds: It's in the PPA repo.02:26
nbndsmeans add the repo and do apt-get upgrade?02:27
DarthFrogyes.02:27
nbndspeople i'm switching to KDE, really :D02:28
nbndsthx for help cu02:28
DarthFrog sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:28
DarthFrogAll on one line.02:28
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westyvwdebian04:28
westyvweh?04:28
Pavlzhttp://www.gopetition.com/petition/40352.html for untrusted hardware04:41
gr8m8how could hardware be untrusted?04:42
Pavlzwatch http://www.lemote.com/en04:43
Pavlzand in particular the netbook Yeelong04:43
Pavlztotally untrusted with FreeBios04:44
PavlzMips 64 bit, 900 Mhz04:44
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Pavlzon which can runs GNU/linux gNewSense or any other distribution such as GNU/linux Blag or GNU/linux Dragora, GNU/linux cDynebolic, GNU/linux Musix, GNU/linux Trisquel, GNU/linux Ututo, GNU/linux Venenux04:45
Pavlzit is only necessary to build for mips04:45
Pavlzbut i am not interested only to mips, but to any type of architecture04:46
Pavlztotally untrusted04:46
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DarthFrogUntrusted by whom?05:27
Kalidarnbah05:38
Kalidarncpu usage is crazy!05:38
Kalidarngod this is horrible05:41
Kalidarnxorg seems to spike to 30 or so % usage05:41
DarthFrogXorg or apps running in X?05:41
Kalidarnno xorg process05:42
Kalidarnive only got kontact, kopete and quassel open05:42
Kalidarnoh and system monitor05:42
Kalidarnthen it seems to come down a bit05:44
Kalidarnusing nvidia proprietary05:44
Kalidarnwith a GTX 470 with Blur disabled05:44
Kalidarnhttp://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2987/imagepi.png05:44
Kalidarni guess i can try noaveu05:46
Kalidarnand seee if it stops it05:46
Kalidarnhmm05:48
Kalidarnmy machine isn't lagging so much but Xorg is still going from 3% 4% 16% 41% 3% 18% 21% 6% 2% 1% 2% 6% 13% 8%05:49
Kalidarnas soon as i do anything05:49
Kalidarnit spikes05:49
DarthFrogWhy are you fussing about this?05:50
Kalidarnbecause sometimes it gets into a bout05:50
Kalidarnwhere it will get stuck on 30%05:50
Kalidarnlike in the above image and then everything seizes up05:50
Kalidarnyou can see in the graph there05:50
Kalidarnthe firefox, kontact, kopete  system monitor processes remained all normal05:51
Kalidarni know its not kontact or kopete because i only started using them recently was using thunderbird and pidgin :P05:51
Kalidarnand i only started using quassel recently before i was using weechat05:52
nikhil_is there a way to get konversation to minimize to the message indicator just like kopete does?06:13
ubuXubusup...06:27
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ubuXubuMetaBot, are u feeling alright?06:39
ubuXubuu simply click on the Konversation minimized icon and boom, ...06:40
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ChrisBuchholzHey guys. I am just setting up my new kubuntu box (migrated from Ubuntu yesterday) and are wondering if there exists a KDE-specific app like the one i used on Ubuntu called startupmanager, to fix my "startup settings" like colors and screen resolution, or if that one is also the same used on KDE?06:45
elimentalSyste, Settings bottom called Startup and shutdown ChrisBuchholz06:47
elimentalsystem*06:47
elimentalSorry I didnt read entire question I thought you wanted autostart06:49
ChrisBuchholzelimental: oh, no worries;)06:49
ChrisBuchholzelimental: problem is, when i enable my nvidia driver, i get all wrong resolution and only 8 colors on the plymouth screen. I usually fix this with the gnome app startupmanager06:49
elimentalYeah I know... havent found one yet, moved to kde about a week ago :)06:50
elimentalgnome user myself... but Unity forced me to move to kde early :)06:51
geekosopherChrisBuchholz: check the 'display' option in system settings06:51
ChrisBuchholzelimental: oh, funny! I did that too, for exactly the same reasons!!!06:51
ChrisBuchholzgeekosopher: thank you, ill take a look06:51
geekosophercan't say for sure if your changed settings will remain so after rebooting, no experience with nvidia cards (or any card for that matter)06:53
elimentalChrisBuchholz: weat we looking for is http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=7544206:53
elimentalbut its not in 4.5 as it doesnt suport grub 2 yet06:53
ChrisBuchholzelimental: oh...06:53
ChrisBuchholzgeekosopher: the settings seems to be right in there06:54
geekosopherhmm, but the output is not what you expect?06:55
ChrisBuchholzgeekosopher: well, i figure that in system settings > display, it only targets when i am in kde right? I did on gnome anyways. I had to use the startupmanager application, which configure grub, to set specific resolution and colors. I guess what i am looking for is a KDE app to configure grub06:56
ChrisBuchholzit did on gnome*06:57
geekosopheroh, ok06:57
geekosopherChrisBuchholz: sorry i mis-interpreted06:58
ChrisBuchholzgeekosopher: no worries, mate06:58
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geekosopherChrisBuchholz: well i see that startupmanager depends on lot of gnome stuff, but if you don't mind installing it, you are good to go07:12
v1ttuhow do i make hdmi audio work in 10.10?07:33
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geekosopherktorrent had partially downloaded a file when I switched from jaunty to maverick. The file was being saved on another partition so it is intact even after clean fresh install of maverick. What I am wondering is, if i copy the .kde/share/apps/ktorrent of jaunty to maverick, will it resume downloading from where it left?07:37
moetunesinteresting question - only one way to find out I guess :)07:39
danni_geekosopher: Probably07:39
danni_but you might want to copy settings from ~/.kde/share/apps and07:40
danni_~/.kde/share/config as well07:40
danni_oh wait07:40
danni_you don't have those07:40
danni_anyways most likely yes07:41
geekosopherdanni_: ok, trying07:41
geekosophermoetunes: :D07:41
andrewh192ok08:07
andrewh192i have a question for you...08:07
andrewh192I have downloaded and supposedly installed a few themes for my login screen08:07
andrewh192but they won't appear as choices for themes08:08
andrewh192just the default one08:08
andrewh192is available08:08
andrewh192i am a little curious where these files go, so maybe i can try to manually install them08:09
andrewh192via the "insttall new theme" button08:10
jussiandrewh192: where did you down load them?08:12
jussiie. in which program?08:12
andrewh192hey08:13
andrewh192from the login screen  get new themes button08:13
andrewh192Login Screen-System Settings08:14
jussioho? theres a get new themes button on the login screen now? didnt know about that one...08:14
jussioh08:14
andrewh192yeah08:14
jussione sec08:14
andrewh192but, it seems that when i supposedly choose one from the list, and "install" it08:14
jussiI knew there was one in system settings, just thought you meant on the actual login08:14
andrewh192it never shows up on my list to choose from08:15
andrewh192oh08:15
andrewh192yeah08:15
andrewh192that's the one i meant08:15
andrewh192didn't mean at actual login08:15
andrewh192sorry08:15
andrewh192my bad08:15
FloodBotK2andrewh192: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.08:15
andrewh192should have explained that better08:15
andrewh192am i supposed to login as root or something and then change that? because i have been able to successfully change other themes08:16
jussiandrewh192: give me a sec, Im playing - seems I get the same thing08:16
andrewh192but for some reason it won't let me install a new theme for the login screen08:16
andrewh192how do you install a new login screen theme?08:17
nafrihello... which is the best MSN client for linux with webcam support?08:17
jussiandrewh192: first, this is a bug and needs fixing. second, let me try one thing to see if I can sort a work around08:18
jussinafri: I think kopete does a good job of it08:18
nafrijussi: kopete does support webcam but not for msn :(08:19
jussireally? I was pretty sure it did...08:20
andrewh192do you know where those theme files get put?08:21
andrewh192maybe i can install theme manually08:21
jussiandrewh192: it is a bug - please file it if you have time. I also have a workaround for now08:21
andrewh192ok08:21
andrewh192kewl08:22
andrewh192i am all ears08:22
Tm_Tjussi: atleast it did at some point, have to test it if it still does08:22
jussiandrewh192: if you go to kde-look.org and click KDM themes you can download the themes normally from there - then just use the "install new theme" button and choose the downloaded file08:23
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jussiandrewh192: please do go file the bug - are you familiar with how to do that?08:24
andrewh192nope08:24
andrewh192i would assume its somewhere on kubuntu.org?08:24
jussi!bug08:25
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots08:25
jussiandrewh192: filing bugs is a really easy way to help the devs make kubuntu even better - just ask if you need a hand :)08:25
andrewh192it looks like there is several people that have already filed the same bug08:41
andrewh192it appears i don't need to.. unless you think i should anyway....08:42
andrewh192hey08:43
andrewh192how do i find out what version of KDE i am using?08:43
nobarkingandrewh192: any KDE application like Dolphin click Help > About KDE08:45
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ucenik07so e be09:24
ucenik13ej09:25
ucenik13drvar09:25
ucenik07so  e be09:25
ucenik07zelezo09:25
ubuntuhi to everyone09:37
ubuntui hav a problem. I mast to resquey grub boot after win 7 installation09:38
ubuntunow i'm in kubuntu by livee-cd session09:38
moetunes!grub209:39
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Ubuntu 9.10.  For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub209:39
ubuntumoetunes: thanks but i known i can do this even live-cd09:40
ubuntui don't remember how09:40
moetunesthat link will tell09:41
ubuntueven by live-cd09:41
ubuntuah ok thanks09:41
crissi_hello. how i can replace the kubuntu notify popups and use the kde ones (4.5.2)10:03
crissi_i'm running 10.1010:04
James147crissi_: as far as i know kubuntu did use the kde ones10:04
crissi_i have upgraded from lucid10:05
crissi_and karmic, janty before10:05
crissi_which packages i have to install? can put your package list into pastebin (dpkg -l | grep ii)?10:06
crissi_i could use it for diffing10:07
James147crissi_: what makes you think that kubuntu has changed the notify system to its own rather then kdes?10:07
surunverihi10:07
surunveriim using kubuntu 10.04 and somehow managed to hide windows from the taskbar so open programs are not visible tehre but i've no idea how that happened :D is there a way to restore taskbar defaults or anything?10:08
crissi_the ubuntu ones does not work correctly10:08
James147surunveri: add the widget called "task manager" back to the panel10:08
crissi_for example: http://imgpaste.com/tmp/otwfj.png10:09
crissi_i think the notifications are fetched by the unbuntu ones10:09
James147crissi_: :s I would suggest creating a new user and see if they have the same problem10:09
crissi_which packages i have to install? can put your package list into pastebin (dpkg -l | grep ii)?10:10
surunverithx10:10
James147crissi_: you might not nesserly be missing a package... try a new user and see if its a config problem first10:10
crissi_hrr10:11
sonaHello, I just installed kubuntu 10.10, when I try to install quanta I get the following message: http://pastebin.com/8hT4w24s , is there anything I can do about this ?10:11
crissi_do you know where i can configure to use the ubuntu ones or the kde ones?10:11
James147sona: try running "sudo apt-get update" first10:12
sonaJames147: does not help10:12
James147sona: does it give an error?10:13
sonanope10:13
James147sona: and you can install other packages fine?10:14
sonathose files seem to be missing from yes10:14
sonaops10:14
sonayes is the answer10:14
James147sona: then I suggest you try a different mirror10:14
sonacould I easily change to for instance the swedish mirror ?10:15
James147sona: I think kpackagekit can do it easaly10:15
Sysopamoin10:16
ChrisBuchholzHey guys. For some reason, my plasma panel has gone transparent. How do i get the background back? All there is now is the shadow10:16
sonaJames147: problem solved, thanks.10:16
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crissi_James147: yes, new user got kde notifications10:25
crissi_now, tell me how i can change it for my user10:25
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James147crissi_: not sure if this will help, but you could try renaming .kde/share/config/knotifyrc  (and possibally anything else with notifyrc at that location) that should reset to the default settings10:29
crissi_ok, i'll try10:29
James147(then  logout and back in)10:29
Walzmyn(running 10.04) I'm having trouble getting rekonq to load in pandora.com - I am using the new square preview of flash with Firefox, but I don't know if rekonq uses that or it's own install of flash.10:30
ferahgorekonq doesn't use it's own flash, hold on, i'll try10:30
ferahgo"We are deeply, deeply sorry to say that due to licensing constraints, we can no longer allow access to Pandora for listeners located outside of the U.S. "10:31
crissi_James147: interesting.. the new user has no knotifyrc10:31
ferahgoI fear someone else will have to try ;)10:31
James147crissi_: it might be a different config file... mostlikly at that location...10:32
ChrisBuchholzHow do i get proper 256 color support in konsole? I have gotten the right colors in vim inside konsole, but neither konsole doing 'ls' or irssi inside console has the right colors10:46
Walzmynferahgo: didn't see your message. Thanks for trying10:46
Walzmynthat's odd that firefox will load it and re-konq won't10:46
ferahgoi think rekonq does some things badly when it comes to flash, I sometimes have flash frames disappearing when scrolling on them10:47
ferahgoor it's an error in the netscape-api10:47
Peace-ferahgo: and version of rekonq?10:48
ferahgovery latest ppa one10:48
Peace-ok :)10:48
Peace-so i can't help10:48
ferahgoit's some two days old I guess10:48
Peace-yeah10:49
Peace-i used that repo too10:49
ferahgodon't worry itS fine, i just need to remember not to scroll on the videos but right or left to them :D10:49
ubuntusorry someone can regive me the ubuntu's grub page for restore it?10:49
Peace-ferahgo: right now i am usiing chromium10:49
Peace-and rekonq10:49
Peace-waiting rekonq works better10:49
ubuntusorry someone can regive me the ubuntu's grub page for restore it?10:50
ferahgoi dislike chromium for its horrid integration10:50
Peace-ferahgo: you can do it like oxygen10:50
Peace-..10:50
Peace-!grub | ubuntu10:50
ubottuubuntu: grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards.10:51
ferahgohow, Peace-?10:51
ChrisBuchholzferahgo: yeah, its awfull.10:51
ubuntuPeace-: thanks ;)10:51
Peace-ferahgo: i got in this way http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-partitionmanger110:52
Peace-ferahgo: search in google how to integrate chrome into kde or something like that i have to go eat10:53
ferahgoenjoy, thanks10:53
ferahgoi'll come back to you, should I want the next level of niceness10:53
ChrisBuchholzferahgo: can you find anything about integrating chrome with kde?10:56
ChrisBuchholzor... anything useful10:56
ferahgoi didnt't bother searching actually, I am quite happy with rekonq. if anything doesn't work, I use Opera10:56
ferahgowhich is evolving very nicely in its snapshots10:57
ChrisBuchholzferahgo: ah okay ;)10:57
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ferahgoanyone using the daily rekonq ppa version, btw?11:04
Peace-ferahgo: i used some time11:11
Peace-now i use chrome11:11
Peace-xD11:11
Peace-chromium11:11
ferahgoi know, mr gentle11:11
Peace-what's the problem?11:11
ferahgothe urlbar doesn't show up - but only since the recent update11:11
* Peace- still programming with kdenlive11:11
ferahgoand before I report a bug I wanted to check whether I am the one to encounter such11:12
Peace-owow11:12
ChrisBuchholzI wish rekonq came even near to google chrome, opera, firefox and safari when it came to passing w3c standards tests11:13
ChrisBuchholzI would love to use a native browser!11:13
Peace-ChrisBuchholz: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=11778311:14
ChrisBuchholzPeace-: i already found that via omg!ubuntu. Even though it looks native, it isnt :P11:15
Peace-ChrisBuchholz: i mean but ... my screenshot looks orribile?11:15
Peace-i have the latest chromiun via ppa ...11:16
ChrisBuchholzi am especially having trouble with the qt dialogs. If i use the qtcurve stuff so they look native, the font is all too big and i cant change it. If i choose "the other option", i can set font size to fit, but then the style looks something like windows 9811:16
ChrisBuchholzPeace-: i have that too. Chromium / google chromium is awesome. If just it was native.11:17
Peace-ChrisBuchholz: well.. chromium is based on webkit11:17
Peace-wekit = khtml +somestuff11:17
ChrisBuchholzthat is correct, yes11:17
Peace-interface is a little thing11:18
ChrisBuchholzPeace-: ah, not anymore. Webkit is long gone the khtml integration and is now a big big big thing - another thing now.11:18
ChrisBuchholzHas matured greatly to become the best html engine out there11:18
Peace-i used a lots kthml11:19
Peace-expeccially on blip.tv where you dont' need of flash11:19
Peace-:)11:19
Peace-kmplayer and you can see the videos :D11:19
ChrisBuchholzyeah - vimeo is also cool. All videos support html5 video instead of flash now11:19
Peace-i prefer blip.tv cuz it's no time limits11:20
Peace-or somestuff like that11:20
ChrisBuchholzyeah okay. I watch lots of videos on blip.tv too. JSConf stuff and so11:21
Peace-i upload :)11:21
ChrisBuchholznever done that myself11:21
ChrisBuchholzhmm... Anyone know how to get correct 256 color support in konsole?11:22
Peace-ChrisBuchholz: actually i am finishing to program a script. fo kdenlive that support automount videos on kdenlive11:22
ChrisBuchholzPeace-: i dunno what kdenlive is :P Just changed from gnome to KDE yesterday because of all the unity thing which i dont like.11:23
Peace-video editor11:23
ChrisBuchholzah okay :)11:24
wilhartis rork here?11:43
wilhartrork, are you here11:43
rorkyes11:43
wilhartrork, hmm, list windows drop down menu i can't find it11:44
wilhartrork, what version of kde u got?11:44
rork4.4.211:44
wilhartrork, i have Platform Version 4.5.1 (KDE 4.5.1)11:44
wilhartrork, probably has changed that menu11:44
rorkwilhart: I'm afraid so11:45
wilhartrork, hmm, get the new kde?11:46
rorkonly if that is shipped with kubuntu 10.1011:48
ChrisBuchholzHey guys. How do I get proper 256 color support in Konsole?11:49
rorkwilhart: looks like it is, I'll reboot and see if I can find it for you.11:49
wilhartrork, installed new kde?11:52
rorkWilhart: System Settings > Window Behaviour on the main screen the top drop down menu is called "List Windows"11:53
wilhartrork focus,titlebar acttions, window actions, moving, advaned?11:55
wilhartrork, cant find it:P11:55
wilhartrork, ad there task switcher11:56
wilhartrork, current desktop or?11:56
wilhartrork, current desktop grouped by applications11:57
rorkcurrent desktop11:57
wilhartrork, include desktop ?11:57
wilhartrork, nope11:58
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rorkwilhart: that should be the right setting, that is if you're talking about switching windows of one virtual desktop and between twe physical monitors12:02
wilhartrork, yes but i think my workspace is like 3000x1080p12:03
wilhartrork, twin view12:03
rorkwilhart: ok, that explains it12:03
rorkI thought you meant virtual desktops12:03
wilhartrork, it's annoying:P12:04
wilhartnope12:04
rorkisn't it possible to have a different virtual desktop on each monitor?12:04
wilhartrork, dunno.12:05
wilhart"stick window" probably ?12:05
wilhartrork, hmmm......12:08
rorkdoesn't sound like that's it, maybe check "System Settings" > "Display and Monitor" > "Multiple Monitors" but I can't help you with this, I only have one monitor12:08
rorkgot to go12:08
wilhart how do i disclude twin view projector (monitor2) from alt-tab?12:09
jwatthi, I'm trying kubuntu12:14
jwattunfortunately the wireless networking seems to have a problem12:14
jwattif I click on the "WLAN Interface" icon in the taskbar it fails to show me a list of available networks12:15
jwattclicking on "Show More" got me that list (why does that button even exist?)12:17
jwattbut then double clicking on the name of my wireless network does nothing12:17
jwattI expect to be prompted to enter the wireless key12:17
jwattshould that be what happens?12:17
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Peace-jwatt: hi12:25
jwattPeace-: hi12:26
Peace-jwatt: can you go on systemsettings12:26
Peace-jwatt: and select network12:26
jwattPeace-: Network Settings, right?12:27
Peace-yea12:27
jwattok, I'm there12:27
Peace-then select  network connections12:27
Peace-so wireless12:28
Peace-then add12:28
Peace-so scan12:28
jwattneat little map12:28
jwattbut the text is illegible12:28
jwattno I can't see the names of the networks12:29
Peace-jwatt: could make a screenshot12:29
jwattah12:29
jwattthere's a details option12:29
jwattok, I see my network12:29
Peace-:)12:29
jwattdo I need to enter anything for "BSSID"?12:30
Peace-no just double cick on the your network12:30
Peace-shodul be added automatically12:30
jwattok, I've hit OK and Apply all the way out12:31
jwattand it now shows up when I click on the "WLAN Interface" icon in the taskbar12:32
jwattbut still nothing happens when I click on it12:32
jwattdouble click I mean12:32
jwattand I'm not prompted for the network key12:32
Peace-have you some password?12:33
Peace-because if you have not set on the network manager ...12:33
Peace-it iwll not connect12:33
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progre55hi guys. what's virtuoso-t? it's using up my cpu12:34
Peace-progre55: wow12:34
Peace-progre55: kill it12:34
Peace-:)12:34
danni_virtuoso is a file indexing12:34
danni_service12:34
progre55ah, I see12:35
Peace-sysstemsettings and disable indexing12:35
gigirockhi all I installed kubuntu on a laptop using unetbootin and net install....at the end grub was installed on the usb pen and not in the hard disk ...what is the way to install boot on hardisk ?12:35
danni_either that or limit it to folders12:35
danni_where indexing is useful12:35
progre55why have it int he first place if it sucks? )12:35
Peace-!grub | gigirock12:35
ubottugigirock: grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards.12:35
jwatthmm, okay, so in the wireless security tab I don't know what to select12:35
Peace-danni_: to me indexing is not neccesary12:35
jwattit has defaulted to None, for some reason12:36
danni_Well in that case fire away12:36
jwattcan't it detect what type of security is in use on the wireless network automatically?12:36
Peace-jwatt: of course is none by default12:36
Peace-jwatt: ok which is the name of your network?12:36
danni_(You might need it if you use Kontact)12:36
jwattPeace-: why? my mac and windows machines both detected the type of wireless security in use automatically12:37
Peace-jwatt: linux is no windows12:37
progre55Peace-: where do you disable it?12:37
jwattsure12:37
gigirockciao Peace tutto a posto  con gli occhi :)12:37
Peace-jwatt: or you should use an antivirus :)12:37
Peace-gigirock: english please12:37
progre55Peace-: which menu on the systemsettings window? )12:37
Peace-progre55: there is a filter bar... use it :)12:37
gigirockPeace-: ciao everything is ok with your eyes ?12:37
jwattPeace-: I thought Kubuntu was for human beings, no? so I'd really hope if wouldn't need me to enter all these tech details12:38
Peace-gigirock: yea i can say they are ok12:38
Peace-jwatt: linux is always linux12:38
progre55Peace-: doesnt really help)12:38
jwattit should just really show me what wireless networks are available, let me double click on one, enter the network key, and done12:38
Peace-progre55: semantic desktop12:39
* jwatt tries to figure out from his mac what type of encryption is used12:39
Peace-progre55: search for that12:39
Peace-jwatt: well use mac or windows12:39
progre55Peace-: oh, it was "desktop search". thanks =)12:39
Peace-jwatt: you need of some stuff12:40
Peace-jwatt: the name of your interface12:40
Peace-jwatt: to get iwconfig12:40
Peace-should be ath0 wlan0 or something like that12:40
Peace-then12:40
Peace-sudo iwlist wlan0 scan12:40
Peace-or sudo iwlist ath0 scan12:40
Peace-or maybe12:40
Peace-better12:40
Peace-sudo iwlist ath0 scan | grep NAME OF NETWORK12:41
Peace-mm nope12:41
Peace-it' better iwlist ath0 scan12:41
Peace-hten you get some informations about your network12:41
Peace-that you should know anyway...12:41
jwattugh - I really thought "Linux for human beings" meant something12:41
Peace-linux is a performance os12:42
Peace-but performance os it's only for few guys12:42
Peace-not for click click ok guys12:42
Peace-if you dont like it just use mac12:42
Peace-high performance12:43
Peace-*high performance12:43
jwatthaving the OS be smart and figure things out for you does not conflict with being high performance12:44
jwattbut okay12:44
Peace-jwatt: linux is born to be used without interface... that is and for administrators only12:46
Peace-so administrators know specific stuff like psk encryption or wep wpa2 stuff12:47
Peace-or they are not administrators12:47
Peace-:)12:47
jwattPeace-: are you sure you shouldn't be in #slackware ? :)12:50
Peace-jwatt: slacks is only a flavor12:51
Peace-linux it's linux always12:51
AkinrazeMorning everyone12:54
Peace-mornimg12:54
Peace-morning12:55
AkinrazeI am having issues getting video to work properly in Kubuntu 10.10///// can anyone help?12:55
Peace-Akinraze: explain better12:55
Akinrazewell I did a fresh install, then started reading about installng the ATI drivers, so I read several how-tos on how to do so and all attempts fail saying my cards not supported...12:56
Peace-ok12:56
AkinrazeI further searched teh dir's and find no xorg.conf12:57
Peace-Akinraze: using vlc you get the problem ?12:57
Akinrazevlc?12:57
Peace-i cna't understand which is the problem with the video12:57
Akinrazethe video is jarbled.... remnents from windows all about12:58
Peace-you have saind i got a problem with video ... i can't understnad you play a video and it is displayed bad or what?12:58
Akinrazeall the menus are slow and leave trails that stay12:59
Peace-ok so the desktop is slow12:59
Peace-in every aspect12:59
Peace-?12:59
Akinrazeoh yes13:00
Akinrazelol13:00
Peace-well it's the driver13:00
Peace-i guess13:00
Peace-Akinraze: try to go in sysstem settings13:00
Akinrazeindeed13:00
Peace-desktop13:00
Peace-so advanced13:00
Peace-so try to use xrender13:00
Peace-instead of opengl13:00
Peace-Akinraze: i am not english13:01
Akinrazeno problems13:01
Peace-it's the second language sorry13:01
BluesKajhowdy13:03
Peace-BluesKaj: hi13:03
BluesKajhi Peace-13:04
RouninHello! I'm seeing a system tray icon related to kpackagekitd popping up every few minutes and disappearing again, and it's getting really annoying... Is there any way to disable it?13:06
Peace-Rounin: of course13:06
Peace-Rounin: systemsetting notifications13:06
Peace-or right cick on the notifications icon13:07
RouninAh... Thanks, Peace-.. I've killed kpackagekitd more times than I can count now :P13:07
Peace-and the consider to install colibri13:07
Peace-colibri is a nice , to me system of notifications ,13:07
RouninAh... Thanks13:08
ad31nHy! Vki magyar?13:19
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wilhart how do i disclude twin view projector (monitor2) from alt-tab?13:28
Peace-disclude?13:29
BluesKajdisclude? don't you mean exclude13:29
Peace-xD13:30
ChrisBuchholzHey guys. After installing Kubuntu 10.10 on my laptop (i came from Ubuntu 10.10) i experience a much slower internet experience. Webpages takes much longer to load, and a irc channel can take several minutes to join where i am used to almost instant joining. I wonder if this is a known issue with a solution, or? I dont wanna go back to gnome if i can be free :P13:36
moetuneswhat's yhe cpu usage like when doing these things?13:37
moetunes*the13:37
ChrisBuchholzmoetunes: almost none.13:40
ChrisBuchholzmoetunes: it seems at a glance13:40
ChrisBuchholzmoetunes: but it is all time. Hmm, just tried to use a wired connection - i dont have this issue here. It seems to be a problem with my wireless connector. Maybe a bad driver?13:41
moetunesstrange... - there have been issues with diff vid cards using the cou alot ChrisBuchholz13:41
moetunes*cpu13:41
moetunesChrisBuchholz:  I never use wireless so I don't have anything to suggest except keep an eye on the cpu13:42
ChrisBuchholzmoetunes: okay - i will13:43
ChrisBuchholzHow come i cant seem to make the font smaller ALL over KDE?13:43
ChrisBuchholzI have had to change the font to size 7 to make it similar to what i had in ubuntu, but there is still places where it doesnt seem to take effect13:44
parkguyum13:47
parkguyi got a problem13:47
RurouniJonesJust ask13:47
parkguyok13:47
parkguyi installed it through the application13:48
parkguyfrom windwos13:48
parkguywindows*13:48
parkguythen it asked to reboot13:48
parkguyso i did13:48
parkguyand selected it from the boot menu thingy13:48
wilhartis there any othere konsole software13:48
parkguythen13:48
RurouniJonesHmm, anyone installed 10.10 onto an Asus eee PC netbook via usb stick? I just get a syslinux prompt "boot:" and no idea what to do next13:48
wilhartany nice konsole13:48
wilhartnot gnome-terminal13:48
wilhartlike konsole!13:49
parkguythe display was not support13:49
parkguy..13:49
parkguythe image was messed up13:49
parkguyo.o13:49
parkguytried both my gfx card and the one from the motherboard13:49
parkguysupported*13:49
Pici!enter13:49
parkguy:P13:49
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!13:49
parkguylol sorry its a habit13:50
RurouniJonesIt appears to be looking for a kernel but no matches to stuff like mvlinuz13:51
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rorkparkguy: from the boot menu, select "recovery mode", this will give you a commandline, login if neccesary and type `startx`13:56
rorkcouldn't even wait for me to finish my sentence lol13:56
wilhartis there any new konsole like kde default one?13:58
rorkRurouniJones: what do you see if you type `ls` into that prompt?13:58
RurouniJonesCannot find kernel ls13:58
RurouniJonesItis asking for a kernel, not sure why. I am rebuilding the USB using unetbootin instead of the kubuntu one13:59
RurouniJonesif tht fails I go for the alternate cd13:59
jussiRurouniJones: it sounds like you have a corrupted image.14:02
RurouniJonesI am downloading the alternate CD. See if that works14:02
RurouniJonesThe ISO MD5s matched14:03
rorkRurouniJones: do you get into grub?14:03
RurouniJonesNope14:03
RurouniJonesI will see what happens with the alternate and if that buggers up, will be back14:04
rorkok14:04
ChrisBuchholzIs it possible to create trackpad/touchpad gesture KDE?14:08
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wilhartwhat's a good messenger for kubuntu14:55
wilhartit have to have facebook and msn14:55
BluesKajwilhart, amsn, dunno if it does facebook tho ...whynot just use a browser for that15:00
alvinKopete will do both15:01
wilhartBluesKaj, naah i think pidgin is good enough15:01
wilhartAlexZion, kopete doesnt have facebook15:01
alvinYes, it does. Facebook chat = XMPP (=jabber)15:02
wilhartAlexZion, oH?!15:02
AlexZionwhat's wilhart ?15:02
wilhartalvin that's googletalk not facebook15:02
BluesKajbah , what a convoluted way to go to a site ...browsers ftw :)15:02
alvinwilhart: No, facebook too15:03
wilhartoh15:03
alvinhttp://www.facebook.com/sitetour/chat.php, choose 'other'15:03
wilhartalvin jabber hmm15:05
wilhartalvin doesnt connect15:05
wilhartalvin, it doesnt connect to jabber15:08
wilhartalvin resgister new account?15:11
wilhartalvin Unable to create an account on the server. The Jabber ID is probably already in use.15:14
wilhartsomeone help with this kopete15:18
ViviusHey everyone15:37
Viviuswondering if someone could help me, I've downloaded things like Blender3D and xVST, and I can drag the exec to the taskbar for quick loading, but I can't change the icons from the grey cog to identify them like usual programs, any way of doing that?15:38
Peace-wait wait15:39
Peace-reading again15:39
Peace-Vivius: right button doesn't work ?15:39
ViviusI can go into the options, but changing of the icon isn't allowed15:40
Peace-mm i guess i understood15:40
Peace-ok let's go to create a laucher by yourserlf15:40
Viviusok...15:40
Viviushows is that done exactly?15:41
Peace-Vivius: just go on dolphin, or in the desktop if it's in folder view mode , i guess it's not so open dolphin15:41
Peace-right buttoon15:41
Peace-create15:42
Peace-link to application15:42
Peace-and ... so on15:42
Viviusso find the exec i want to add like blender, and right click it in dolphin?15:42
Peace-open dolphin where you want15:44
Peace-create15:44
Peace-link to application15:44
Peace-find where the application is ...15:44
Peace-put your icon15:44
Peace-drag and drop where youe want yoour launcher15:44
Viviusthanks Peace got it now, no icon for xVST but will find one :D15:45
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Viviusreally don't want to go back to Windows15:46
Viviusbeen workin hard to get everything working in Kubuntu, going well so far15:46
ViviusFinally got torrents working full speed, first time ever15:46
* Peace- has finished the script to create automatically kdenlive project for video15:46
* Peace- start to integrate it into dolphin15:46
dmattVivius: if you want to add shortcut to application, just go to menu, find the application, press left mouse button on any application and choose add to panel15:47
Peace-dmatt: that want let you change the icon15:47
Viviusthanks dmatt, but these are programs that arn't in the menu, things I've downloaded15:47
ViviusWhere is the Menu editor btw? I saw it a while back and I can't find it now...15:48
Peace-Vivius: right button in kde icon15:48
Peace-menu editor15:48
Peace-...15:48
Viviuslol15:48
Viviusso simple when you know how :D15:49
Viviusthanks15:49
xywonixзжбс..15:49
dmattVivius: how do you download and install programs?15:50
Peace-blender can be downloand without installation dmatt15:50
dmattif you install from repositories, everything should be in menu15:50
ViviusBlender 2.54 beta isn't in the repos15:50
Peace-it's an application ready to go15:51
Viviusonly 2.4915:51
Peace-:)15:51
* Peace- here fan of kdenlive blender that knows15:51
dmattPeace-: I know, but that is not preferred way for beginners15:51
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ViviusI'm not exactly a beginner, know a little bit, but first time using KDE415:51
Viviuswhich is freakin awesome btw15:51
Vivius:D15:51
Peace-dmatt: well it seems it's not a noob it seems a gnome guys that has switched15:51
Peace-xD15:52
dmattVivius: sorry then ...15:52
Peace-like i imaged15:52
Viviusdmatt: don't be worry, you were just tryin to help, better than ignoring my questions :)15:52
Vivius*sorry15:52
Peace-:P15:52
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ViviusI have to turn off the desktop effects for graphics work :(15:54
Viviusboo15:54
Viviusswish swish15:54
Viviusonly thing I haven't got working yet is my webcamera, QuickCam Messenger15:55
ViviusI'm not too fussed on it though, will give it a go sometime15:55
Peace-Vivius: sudo apt-get install kamoso15:55
Viviuswhats that Peace?15:55
Peace-webcam15:55
Peace-give it a try15:55
Viviusit installs my cam for me?15:55
Peace-Vivius: try :)15:55
Peace-Vivius: sudo apt-get install kamoso && kamoso15:56
Peace-xD15:56
Viviusok well it isn't plugged in atm, can i just plug it in now and see if it works, or does it need to be plugged in before start up?15:56
xywonixпонимающие меня есть ?15:56
Peace-Vivius: try :)))15:56
Viviusha15:56
Viviusrightio15:56
Viviusif this crashes everythin i'll kill ye15:56
Vivius;)15:56
Peace-xD15:56
Peace-boom15:56
Peace-LOL15:56
* Vivius has dropped off due to system crash attributed to Peaceful webcam programs :D15:57
dmattVivius: you can check your camera directly in kopete15:58
Peace-+1 dmatt15:58
Viviusthanks dmatt15:58
Peace-kopete settings webcam15:59
Viviushahahahahaha15:59
Viviuswtf15:59
Viviusthe cam is working15:59
Vivius:D:D:D15:59
Peace-Vivius: tell me you was a ubuntu guys?15:59
Viviuslast time i tried gettin this cam to work in ubuntu 8 or something it wrecked my head15:59
ViviusKDE seems way more advanced than Gnome why does anyone use gnome i dunno16:00
Viviusguess its simplier layout if your focusing on work16:00
Viviuswith all the extras in KDE i don't see much slow down, if anything it does more faster.16:00
Viviusok one question in kopete if my cam works does that mean I can cam2cam with my GF? thats the only reason i have windows on my laptop anymore16:01
Viviuswould love KDE on it :D16:01
ViviusTRY IT right peace16:02
Viviuslol16:02
Viviuswow i'm getting a lot more fixed using this chat thing than the forums :)16:03
dmattVivius: I do not know if there is currently any protocol supported in Kopete which uses video as well (jabber is in works), but you can use skype16:04
Viviuswonder if the mic on the cam works in skype hmm16:04
Viviusi'll give ita  shot16:04
Viviusthanks dmatt16:04
Viviusme and the GF use Skype anyway16:04
Viviusawesome16:04
dmattjust enable partner repositories and install skype from there16:04
Viviushave already downloaded skype from their website16:05
dmattif you haven't done already16:05
dmattI would go for repository version, it is tested and safer16:05
Viviusok...partner repos...16:06
Viviushow do i enable partner repos dmatt?16:07
Peace-kpackagekit16:07
Viviusyup i'm there16:07
Peace-then ..16:07
Viviusdon't see it in the list16:07
Peace-:)16:07
Peace-settings16:07
Viviusthere...16:07
Peace-edit16:08
Viviusahhh ok16:08
Peace-other software16:08
Viviusgot it thanks peace16:08
Peace-Vivius: but was you a gnome guy?16:09
Peace-right?16:09
Viviusah I've dabbled in linux on and off for years, only used ubuntu for like 2 years, doesn't know I know much about using linux tho lol :)16:09
Viviusbut with all these new versions the last few years i thought I'd give it a go see if it would work better for me and get away from windows16:09
Viviuswhich is going well so far16:10
ViviusI've used OpenSUSE, Ubuntu many versions, Kubuntu a few times but not for ages16:10
Viviusetc16:10
Viviusanyone recommend any good books that teach you the core basics of linux and is applicable to Kubuntu?16:11
Peace-Vivius: mm my blog xD it's a bit complicated16:13
Peace-and written bad16:13
Peace-xD16:13
Peace-i hvae no time16:13
Peace-http://nowardev.wordpress.com/16:14
Viviusthanks Peace16:14
Viviusok heres my last, quite vain question16:14
Viviuswhen I first installed Kubuntu16:14
Peace-Vivius: but... i guess16:14
Viviusthe font was really smooth and Mac OSX lookin was sweet16:14
Viviusbut now16:14
Peace-wiki it's the best16:14
Viviusit seems the same font16:14
Viviusbut thinner and not as smooth16:14
FloodBotK2Vivius: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.16:14
Peace-!wiki16:14
ubottuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.16:14
Viviusany ideas what happened?16:14
Peace-Vivius: keep in mind wann reset your user?16:15
Peace-Vivius: rename $HOME/.kde16:15
Peace-upgrading kde you get problem ?16:15
Peace- rename $HOME/.kde16:15
Peace-xD16:15
ViviusI don't know exactly what you mean Peace by that, to solve the font thing?16:16
Peace-it could16:16
Peace-if not ?16:16
Viviusit wasn't from an upgrade, I don't know why it happened, I've instaled a fresh KDE4, but after a few days the font just went funny, but I can tell its the same font.16:16
Peace-rename back that folder16:16
Peace-Vivius: where are you from?16:17
ViviusWhat is the default font when you install Kubuntu? Mine is called Ubuntu atm16:17
ViviusI'm from Ireland, u?16:17
Peace-italy16:17
Peace-wow my english xD can be understood16:17
ViviusNice, dya play assassins creed :D love that game16:17
Viviuswhat does resetting the user do Peace, it won't mess everything up will it, and do i just type what you wrote there and it'll be done?16:18
Peace-Vivius: renaming $HOME/.kde = like you have just installed the system16:21
Viviusok i typed it and the comp is working loads, no m sgs yet16:21
Viviusfingers crossed16:21
Peace-so no customizations16:21
Peace-no passwords16:21
Peace-but hey you want get them back16:22
Viviusnot even the root password? and my app links will be gone?!? :O16:22
Peace-just rename that folder16:22
Peace-Vivius: root password will be kept16:22
Peace-Vivius: ya for liks16:22
Peace-links16:22
ViviusWHAT HAVE YOU MADE ME DO16:23
Viviushehe16:23
Peace-rename back...16:23
Peace-:)16:23
Viviuswell at least I know a new command now if the crap hits the fan, linux always feels to me like an egg you have to be careful with in case you drop lol16:23
Viviusbut I know thats just down to my lack of knowledge :)16:23
Viviusit wont remove all the programs i've installed will it16:24
dmattVivius: this only removes settings for KDE, if KDE is started without settings files, it creates new with defaults ... so removing them means user workspace customisations reser16:26
dmatt*reset16:26
Viviusright ok thanks dmatt16:27
Viviussure is takin a while16:27
dmattVivius: I suggest you explore System Setting, where under pplication Look (or something similar, I have localised version) you find settings for fonts and dithering...16:28
Viviusk thanks :D16:29
dmattVivius: there is lot of other options to customise every aspect of your KDE system16:29
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dmattVivius: just one more tip: use alt-f2 to quickly start any application just typing few starting characters from the name... you will forget about menu very soon :)16:31
Viviusooo nice, thanks dmatt!16:33
Viviusi've tried changing fonts manually there and messing with settings16:33
Viviusit just doesn't look as smooth as before16:33
Viviusbut i know its the same damn font16:33
Viviusit might have happened when i installed something gnome related a while back, but i can't remember now...16:34
wilharttnx got jabber working16:34
dmattVivius: try to play with dithering options16:34
Viviuswhere is dithering options?16:35
dmattjust under the font selection16:36
dmattmaybe it is not dithering, but hinting16:36
dmattSystem Settings/Application Look/Fonts16:37
Viviusthanks dmatt, already checked that, it isn't a big issue, but I swear the fonts looked so perfect and smooth when i first loaded it, just a bit annoying, nothing major :)16:38
dmatttry to boot from livecd and compare16:39
Viviusgood idea!16:40
Viviushow long does this rename thing take, i typed it in, and nothing has happened in konsole, or went back to command line entry16:40
dmattit should take few seconds only, but i never tried it on live system16:42
Viviusok gonan drop off here and reboot and see what happens, hope i'm still here when i get back :D16:42
dmattif you see prompt then it's finished already16:42
Viviusthanks for the help dmatt and Peace-16:42
dmattnp16:42
wilharti really want this procector not to be inclucede in my main display alt-tab!!!!16:47
wilhartshould i put it on top or hmm ?16:47
wilhartstick!?16:48
wilharthmmmmmmmm16:50
geekosophercame to know of kde 4.5.3 being released today, anyone has any idea if it will be backported to maverick?16:56
geekosopheror may be kubuntu-ppa16:56
Peace-geekosopher: some days after16:57
Peace-like 2 o 1 days16:57
Peace-i guess16:57
geekosopheron kubuntu-ppa?16:58
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wilhartgeekosopher, did you get it?17:14
wilhartdid you find the kde 4.5.3 repos17:16
dan__hey guys. i've stumbled upon a problem. i run compiz fusion through emerald. although compiz fusion icon starts at startup(at the same time with KDE) i can't get it to run. i need to run "compiz --replace" for it to be ok. any ideas how i can make this command work at startup aswell?17:16
wilhartdan use kde effects?17:17
dan__well that's the point :) KDE starts with kde effects. but i want it to start directly with the compiz effects17:18
wilhartdan__, just remove that compiz crap17:19
wilhart?17:19
wilhartkde 4.5.3 kubuntu 10.10 ppa17:19
wilharti cant find that in google17:19
dan__no thanks :) i actually like it17:19
dmattwilhart: if you have kubuntu ppa, you will get it automatically when it's ready, i believe17:20
dmattthat's how it worked in past17:21
wilhartdmatt, hmm17:28
wilhartdmatt, dunno i upgraded from 10.04 to 10.1017:28
wilhartdmatt, could you help me installing that17:28
wilhartdmatt, u have that latest version ?17:29
dmattwilhart: do you have 4.5.2?17:29
wilhartdmatt, (KDE 4.5.1)17:29
dmattwilhart: latest as of now is 4.5.2, 4.5.3 expected in short time (few days)17:30
wilhartdmatt, ok17:31
wilharti'll wait17:31
wilhartdmatt, but why doesnt this have 4.5.2 ?17:31
dmattwilhart: open kpackagekit, choose Settings, then Edit origins17:32
dmattbecasu you do not use ppa for 4.5.x updates17:32
wilhartdmatt, that first one ? backports?17:32
wilhartmaverick17:32
wilhartdmatt what is medibuntu and psyke ?17:33
dmattno, wait till i find it17:33
wilhartdmatt, what are those others that is not marked X17:34
wilhartdmatt, i think it's backports17:34
dmattyou should not change any of those17:34
dmattit is different17:34
wilharthmm17:34
wilhartdeb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu maverick main17:35
wilhartthis is it17:35
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wilhartdmatt, do i checkbox this one and? upgrade?17:36
dmattsecond tab "other software" / Add and you add following line:17:36
dmattppa:kubuntu-ppa17:36
wilhartdmatt, ?17:36
dmattit is written also in http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.5.217:37
PiciWhich is i the channel topic.17:37
dmattPici: even better... so it is official :)17:38
wilhartdmatt, hmm17:39
geekosopherwilhart: sorry i was away, and nope I was asking where would I find them17:42
wilhartmmmmmmm17:46
wilhartmeh18:01
wilhartgeekosopher, did you find it? :D18:01
wilhartgeekosopher, got 10.10 ?18:02
dcndrewhi18:08
dcndrewI have a question, have anyone met this before? I don't know what installed on Kubuntu 10.10 what makes this, but if I start Kopete or Konversation, the Kontact starts automatically.18:10
dcndrewGoogle said nothing.18:12
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Peace-dcndrew: nice xD18:17
dcndrewThanx, man. :D18:18
dcndrewOh. I found something about Kolab, but there is no IMAP stuff in Kopete....18:19
leandrodeassiswhen kde 4.5.3 will be in ppa?18:19
Peace-leandrodeassis:  1-3 days18:20
wilhartwhen id this kde 4.5.3 out ?18:21
leandrodeassisPeace-: thanks18:24
wilharthow do i install new kde now18:26
Mitschelwilhart: what "new kde" do you mean and which release do you use? 10.04 or 10.10?18:29
wilhartMitschel, 10.1018:31
Mitschelok18:32
Mitscheldo you mean the 4.5.3 release? if so, first of all you have to wait till the version is packaged for kubuntu18:33
Matissehi18:34
Matisseis there a way to force stereo output to also send data to the subwoofer?18:34
Mitscheland once it is packaged just put this "ppa:kubuntu-ppa" into your repository list https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu18:36
Matisselike mono is forced to stereo18:38
wilhartMitschel, ehmm...18:46
wilhartMitschel, reposity list ?18:46
Mitschelwilhart: did you read that link i posted? its the "other software" window18:48
wilhartMitschel, about18:48
Mitschelwilhart: this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu18:50
wilhartMitschel, hmm18:51
wilhartMichealH, in couple days this upgrades 4.5.3 ?18:51
Mitschelyes as soon as the packaging guys did thier magic, right now theres no easy way to get the 4.5.3 update. you have to wait18:52
wilhartMitschel, my software program doesnt have those18:52
delachey! I'd like to decorate my kde a bit. whitch packages contain more desktop themes (e.g. alternative styles for panel, popups and such)? i already have plenty of window borders and icons and stuff.18:53
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wilhartMichealH, if i put this in sources.list:18:53
wilhartdeb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu maverick main18:53
Mitschelwilhart: yeah just saw that that page is out dated18:54
wilhartMichealH, yep ,some new page plz :D18:54
Mitschelwilhart: just press alt+f2m, enter kpackagekit, click on settings and then on edit origins18:55
Mitschelnow enter "ppa:kubuntu-ppa" and you are done18:55
wilhartMitschel, ok done..18:58
wilhartMitschel, where do i see that source in etc/apt18:58
wilhartMichealH, that's its really tehre18:59
Piciwilhart: It'll get dropped into /etc/apt/sources.list.d/18:59
Matissesolved my problem by changing center and subwoofer cable19:00
wilhartPici, look at this:19:01
wilhartPici, http://pastebin.ca/198090119:01
wilhartPici, something wrong? why i got losta those there19:02
Peace-!offtopic | Peace-19:03
ubottuPeace-, please see my private message19:03
Piciwilhart: Thats fine.19:04
wilhartPici, ok:D19:04
wilhartPici, upgrade kubuntu now19:04
PiciITs because you added things in the past using either that same tool or add-apt-repository.19:04
wilhartPici, puts 4.5.2 ?19:04
Piciwilhart: What?19:04
wilhartPici, dist-upgrade now, it' should put kde 4.5.2 ?19:04
Piciwilhart: If its available.19:04
wilhartPici, so, should i wait on 4.5.3 ? or now install 4.5.2 ?19:05
Piciwilhart: If you have limited download bandwidth, wait for 4.5.3, otherwise it won't hurt to get 4.5.219:06
wilhartPici, i have 10m19:06
WhitePelicanhow do I get 4.5.2? I'm using lucid19:06
wilhartPici, anything nice on 4.5.2 ?19:06
Piciwilhart: I specifically mean a quota.19:06
wilhartPici, yepyep19:06
Piciwilhart: I don't know.  I don't use KDE myself.19:06
WhitePelicancan I get 4.5.2 without upgrading to maverick?19:07
WhitePelicanmy sound is broken on MAverick19:07
wilhartPici, why ? gnome ??19:08
Piciwilhart: Yes.  But I can still help people with desktop agnostic problems.19:08
wilhartPici, ok19:09
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wilhartPici, got any idea why display 2 is in display 1 alt-tab?19:09
WhitePelicanis there anyone here who can answer my question?19:12
Piciwilhart: Sorry, I don't think I can help with that.19:12
MitschelWhitePelican: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.5.2 obviously there is no official support for 4.5.2 in 10.0419:13
Mitschelyou either have to compile it yourself or find e non-official repo where kde 4.5.2 is packaged WhitePelican19:13
WhitePelicans'ok my system is broken enough :)19:14
WhitePelicanthanks for your help tough19:14
WhitePelicanthough*19:15
WhitePelicansorry, I can't type to save my life19:15
wilhartPici, ok19:23
wilhartPlatform Version 4.5.2 (KDE 4.5.2)19:26
wilhart:D19:26
wilhartPici, there?19:27
Piciwilhart: Yes?19:27
wilhartPici, my gdm doenst show anyt login/password just desktop backgroun wallpaper19:27
wilhartPici, and my kdm has login password but keyboard not working!!19:28
wilhartPici, how do i get keyboard working in kdm ?19:28
wilhartPici, something in xorg.conf ?19:28
wilhartPici, #    Driver         "kbd"19:29
wilhartPici, should i remove that # ??19:29
wilhartPici, it didint work either19:32
Piciwilhart: I'm sorry, I need to deal with an issue here at work, perhaps someone else can help you.  Or you can ask in #ubuntu for problems with gdm.19:33
wilhartPici, problem with kdm19:33
wilhartanyone? help?? keyboard doesnt work in kdm19:35
Mitschelsorry wilhart no idea19:38
moetuneswilhart:  check the X log19:40
delacif I do "plasma-desktop -graphicssystem raster", plasma popups (e.g. systrays hidden icons and Kickoff) don't show any content (the popup opens but only as transparent background). any thoughts?19:45
chiiiiizhello19:47
chiiiiizis there a possibility to have an overview of photos in the "Folder view" plasmoid instead of an icon?19:47
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reallovehello. I have a weird issue on my lenovo laptop running Kubuntu 10.10. After upgrading it from 10.04, I only have sound in speakers, and not when I plug in the headphones. Any ideas where to look ? thanks!19:56
moetunesreallove:  in konsole   alsamixer   and turn the headphones up maybe20:01
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reallovemoetunes: huh, looks like I'm not the only one : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/63787320:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 637873 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "Headphones don't play on Lenovo Thinkpad T400s 64bit" [Undecided,Incomplete]20:08
jmichaelxreallove: what audio adapter is used in your laptop?20:11
reallove00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)20:11
realloveif this is what you ask, jmichaelx20:12
jmichaelxreallove: yes.... i have seen in the forums that other people are experiencing the same problem with that adapter20:12
reallovealthough, I haven't tried the fix described in that bug report20:13
realloverebooting now, let's see if it helps me20:13
reallovebrb20:13
jmichaelxreallove: i have rev 02 and have also been having problems, but a different one than yours20:13
wilhartwe need more effects!20:15
reallovejmichaelx: wow. looks like I'm lucky. The fix from that bug report works for me too20:17
jmichaelxreallove: good deal.... did you just have to add an option to your alsa-base.conf?20:20
reallovejmichaelx: correct20:20
reallovenow time to fix the next issue that appeared after upgrading to 10.10... my computer does not go to sleep when I close the lid20:21
jmichaelxreallove: nothing frustrates me more with linux than the constant one step forward, one step backward dance....20:21
reallovejmichaelx: you bet. although, when I upgraded to 10.04 nothing bad happened, only now. hrrrr20:22
jmichaelxreallove: i have had major issues with 10.10... had to revert back to 10.04 on one laptop due to regressions with mobile intel video performance in 10.1020:23
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realloveoh crap, really?20:23
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realloveI just discovered when I got to work that I had a 3rd issue with the upgrade: I am connecting to an external monitor through the docking station, and now the resolution and the monitor management sucks badly20:24
jmichaelxreallove: what video adapter?20:25
realloveI have to admit though that the upgrade brought a new network manager waaaay better than the previous20:25
reallove00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)20:25
jmichaelxreallove: i am thinking that you may be able to get things straightened out with that card... not sure though20:27
reallovebut the most annoying thing is that 'sleep' not working when closing lid.20:27
reallovethis frustrates me more20:27
jmichaelxreallove: mobile intel sucks royally in maverick20:27
realloveheh20:28
reallovejmichaelx: omg, again, I am no the only one having the suspend-to-ram problem20:30
reallovedamn this upgrade20:30
jmichaelxreallove: join the croud of folks who remain very unimpressed with maverick20:33
jmichaelxcrowd*20:33
jmichaelxunimpressed is very much an understatement, in my case20:33
dmattjmichaelx: i do not think it is so bad release20:37
reallovewell dmatt , for me, the score of bad things vs improvements was 3:120:37
dmattjmichaelx: those who have problems always feel there is lot of people with problems, but it is different group each time... you might find 10.4 was big problem for some other people20:38
jmichaelxdmatt: you cannot assess merely by the fact that your harware mixed well with 10.10.... when so many of the most common laptop GPUs on the market are doing so badly, it is a bad thing... even if you are blessed with having something that worls better20:39
dmattjmichaelx: but was it better any previous release? this time nvidia, intel before....20:40
jmichaelxdmatt: well, intel GPUs had done well the last several releases, although there was one (edgy?) that had intel problems20:44
dmattjmichaelx: it was jaunty20:47
jmichaelxdmatt: ok, that sounds more like it20:47
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jmichaelxdmatt: i am not calling maverick a train wreck, but there are in my opinion, some very serious flaws that go beyond the norm20:48
reallovegood, the suspend-to-RAM is fixed by applying the acpitool -s trick20:48
jmichaelxreallove: congrats20:49
reallovethe last issue remains with connecting the external monitor, which I suspect to be the more difficult20:49
reallovejmichaelx: heh thanks, google is my best friend :)20:49
jmichaelxdmatt: edgy was going a bit too far back in time, lol20:51
dmattjmichaelx: no matter what changes in stack, there is allways somebody in pain20:51
delachow can I adjust menu and popup transparency while using compiz?20:52
jmichaelxdmatt: to be sure.... which is the reason linux is never going to "rule the desktop"20:52
dmattjmichaelx: don't be so negative :)20:55
jmichaelxdmatt: i think what i said was more a result of realism than anything. also, i do not think i would like what would have to happen to linux for it to get to the point that it *could* rule the desktop20:56
dmattjmichaelx: I would survive linux rule ... (you could allways fork if things go wrong)21:02
jmichaelxdmatt: it won't happen.... not on the desktop. in order for that to happen, linux distros would have to become much more unifrom... we do not want to go there.....21:03
jmichaelxdmatt: the server room is another case entirely.... linux is slowly taking that realm over. the problem with the desktop is that desktop linux users will always have to be a bit more tech savvy that your average PC user21:04
delacam I asking the right question? what determines the level of opacity on menus and popups? because if I change from kwin to compiz, the level of opacity of the menus and popups is changed drastically21:04
delachow can I adjust those levels?21:05
dmattjmichaelx: nevermind I have not any longing for linux domination, till it works for me ... and is easier to support on my family PC's :D21:07
jmichaelxdmatt: i totally agree..... it is VERY much what i prefer, both at work and at home21:08
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microclusterhow is possible control fan in notebook hp?22:34
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JeroenDeDauwDoes Kubuntu 10.10 come with some tool to scan documents?22:43
delacmicrocluster: most likely there is no way to control the fans. that is true for allmost all laptops. but you can check for yourself: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4273722:44
microclusterdelac: thanks,i'm just reading this page and try it22:47
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microclusterdelac: why isn't possible control fan on laptop?22:56
* KimLaRoux wishes dolphin could read id3 tags.23:30
Dark_Linkhmm why is the gma 950 graphix card seam to be not fully used23:34
Dark_Linkits running flash and games worse than windows23:34

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