=== _nertil is now known as nertil [00:08] Is there any good minimalistic desktop enviroments made with qt like the antico project that is still developed? [00:14] hmm for some reason pinentry comes up 3 times and i dont get a change to enter a password [00:14] its like it enters one in for me :( [00:15] [01:23] Anyone having issues with pinentry-qt4 failing with Lucid? When it pops up, it doesnt give time to enter the password, it just blinks 3 times and says incorrect password. [00:15] looks like im not the ony one [00:19] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pinentry-qt4/+bug/371178 looks like its broken in kubuntu :P [00:19] Launchpad bug 371178 in pinentry-qt4 (Ubuntu) "pinentry-qt4 doesn't prompt for a password when trying to read an encrypted email in Kmail" [Undecided,New] [00:23] hi i am looking for a way to shutdown my pc remotly [00:24] right now i use ssh with "shutdown -h now" but i think its forcing a hard shutdown where kde isn't turned off correctly === Kalidarn is now known as zz_Kalidarn === zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn === Kalidarn is now known as zz_Kalidarn === zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn === Kalidarn is now known as zz_Kalidarn [01:40] Hello everyone [01:40] Hi [01:40] Does anyone have any ideas to print multiple files in one go? Akin to the old KDE 3.x method of selecting multiple, right click, print [01:41] Some basic googling has found people gripping about this functionality no longer being present in KDE, but I haven't found any solutions really. [02:26] hi there! i'd like to know if kde 4.5.2 has oficially arrived to 10.10? i did just testd it on fedora 14, its awesome and the and no more lags! [02:26] nbnds: It's in the PPA repo. [02:27] means add the repo and do apt-get upgrade? [02:27] yes. [02:28] people i'm switching to KDE, really :D [02:28] thx for help cu [02:28] sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [02:28] All on one line. === darkness51_ is now known as darkness51 === darkness51_ is now known as darkness51 === Freejack is now known as Freejack` === root is now known as Guest37366 [04:28] debian [04:28] eh? [04:41] http://www.gopetition.com/petition/40352.html for untrusted hardware [04:42] how could hardware be untrusted? [04:43] watch http://www.lemote.com/en [04:43] and in particular the netbook Yeelong [04:44] totally untrusted with FreeBios [04:44] Mips 64 bit, 900 Mhz === muesli_ is now known as muesli [04:45] on which can runs GNU/linux gNewSense or any other distribution such as GNU/linux Blag or GNU/linux Dragora, GNU/linux cDynebolic, GNU/linux Musix, GNU/linux Trisquel, GNU/linux Ututo, GNU/linux Venenux [04:45] it is only necessary to build for mips [04:46] but i am not interested only to mips, but to any type of architecture [04:46] totally untrusted === dan is now known as smartasdan [05:27] Untrusted by whom? [05:38] bah [05:38] cpu usage is crazy! [05:41] god this is horrible [05:41] xorg seems to spike to 30 or so % usage [05:41] Xorg or apps running in X? [05:42] no xorg process [05:42] ive only got kontact, kopete and quassel open [05:42] oh and system monitor [05:44] then it seems to come down a bit [05:44] using nvidia proprietary [05:44] with a GTX 470 with Blur disabled [05:44] http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2987/imagepi.png [05:46] i guess i can try noaveu [05:46] and seee if it stops it [05:48] hmm [05:49] my machine isn't lagging so much but Xorg is still going from 3% 4% 16% 41% 3% 18% 21% 6% 2% 1% 2% 6% 13% 8% [05:49] as soon as i do anything [05:49] it spikes [05:50] Why are you fussing about this? [05:50] because sometimes it gets into a bout [05:50] where it will get stuck on 30% [05:50] like in the above image and then everything seizes up [05:50] you can see in the graph there [05:51] the firefox, kontact, kopete system monitor processes remained all normal [05:51] i know its not kontact or kopete because i only started using them recently was using thunderbird and pidgin :P [05:52] and i only started using quassel recently before i was using weechat [06:13] is there a way to get konversation to minimize to the message indicator just like kopete does? [06:27] sup... === Kalidarn is now known as zz_Kalidarn [06:39] MetaBot, are u feeling alright? [06:40] u simply click on the Konversation minimized icon and boom, ... === zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn [06:45] Hey guys. I am just setting up my new kubuntu box (migrated from Ubuntu yesterday) and are wondering if there exists a KDE-specific app like the one i used on Ubuntu called startupmanager, to fix my "startup settings" like colors and screen resolution, or if that one is also the same used on KDE? [06:47] Syste, Settings bottom called Startup and shutdown ChrisBuchholz [06:47] system* [06:49] Sorry I didnt read entire question I thought you wanted autostart [06:49] elimental: oh, no worries;) [06:49] elimental: problem is, when i enable my nvidia driver, i get all wrong resolution and only 8 colors on the plymouth screen. I usually fix this with the gnome app startupmanager [06:50] Yeah I know... havent found one yet, moved to kde about a week ago :) [06:51] gnome user myself... but Unity forced me to move to kde early :) [06:51] ChrisBuchholz: check the 'display' option in system settings [06:51] elimental: oh, funny! I did that too, for exactly the same reasons!!! [06:51] geekosopher: thank you, ill take a look [06:53] can't say for sure if your changed settings will remain so after rebooting, no experience with nvidia cards (or any card for that matter) [06:53] ChrisBuchholz: weat we looking for is http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=75442 [06:53] but its not in 4.5 as it doesnt suport grub 2 yet [06:53] elimental: oh... [06:54] geekosopher: the settings seems to be right in there [06:55] hmm, but the output is not what you expect? [06:56] geekosopher: well, i figure that in system settings > display, it only targets when i am in kde right? I did on gnome anyways. I had to use the startupmanager application, which configure grub, to set specific resolution and colors. I guess what i am looking for is a KDE app to configure grub [06:57] it did on gnome* [06:57] oh, ok [06:58] ChrisBuchholz: sorry i mis-interpreted [06:58] geekosopher: no worries, mate === Kalidarn is now known as zz_Kalidarn === zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn [07:12] ChrisBuchholz: well i see that startupmanager depends on lot of gnome stuff, but if you don't mind installing it, you are good to go [07:33] how do i make hdmi audio work in 10.10? === evilnhandler is now known as nhandler [07:37] ktorrent had partially downloaded a file when I switched from jaunty to maverick. The file was being saved on another partition so it is intact even after clean fresh install of maverick. What I am wondering is, if i copy the .kde/share/apps/ktorrent of jaunty to maverick, will it resume downloading from where it left? [07:39] interesting question - only one way to find out I guess :) [07:39] geekosopher: Probably [07:40] but you might want to copy settings from ~/.kde/share/apps and [07:40] ~/.kde/share/config as well [07:40] oh wait [07:40] you don't have those [07:41] anyways most likely yes [07:41] danni_: ok, trying [07:41] moetunes: :D [08:07] ok [08:07] i have a question for you... [08:07] I have downloaded and supposedly installed a few themes for my login screen [08:08] but they won't appear as choices for themes [08:08] just the default one [08:08] is available [08:09] i am a little curious where these files go, so maybe i can try to manually install them [08:10] via the "insttall new theme" button [08:12] andrewh192: where did you down load them? [08:12] ie. in which program? [08:13] hey [08:13] from the login screen get new themes button [08:14] Login Screen-System Settings [08:14] oho? theres a get new themes button on the login screen now? didnt know about that one... [08:14] oh [08:14] yeah [08:14] one sec [08:14] but, it seems that when i supposedly choose one from the list, and "install" it [08:14] I knew there was one in system settings, just thought you meant on the actual login [08:15] it never shows up on my list to choose from [08:15] oh [08:15] yeah [08:15] that's the one i meant [08:15] didn't mean at actual login [08:15] sorry [08:15] my bad [08:15] andrewh192: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [08:15] should have explained that better [08:16] am i supposed to login as root or something and then change that? because i have been able to successfully change other themes [08:16] andrewh192: give me a sec, Im playing - seems I get the same thing [08:16] but for some reason it won't let me install a new theme for the login screen [08:17] how do you install a new login screen theme? [08:17] hello... which is the best MSN client for linux with webcam support? [08:18] andrewh192: first, this is a bug and needs fixing. second, let me try one thing to see if I can sort a work around [08:18] nafri: I think kopete does a good job of it [08:19] jussi: kopete does support webcam but not for msn :( [08:20] really? I was pretty sure it did... [08:21] do you know where those theme files get put? [08:21] maybe i can install theme manually [08:21] andrewh192: it is a bug - please file it if you have time. I also have a workaround for now [08:21] ok [08:22] kewl [08:22] i am all ears [08:22] jussi: atleast it did at some point, have to test it if it still does [08:23] andrewh192: if you go to kde-look.org and click KDM themes you can download the themes normally from there - then just use the "install new theme" button and choose the downloaded file === Kalidarn is now known as zz_Kalidarn [08:24] andrewh192: please do go file the bug - are you familiar with how to do that? [08:24] nope [08:24] i would assume its somewhere on kubuntu.org? [08:25] !bug [08:25] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [08:25] andrewh192: filing bugs is a really easy way to help the devs make kubuntu even better - just ask if you need a hand :) [08:41] it looks like there is several people that have already filed the same bug [08:42] it appears i don't need to.. unless you think i should anyway.... [08:43] hey [08:43] how do i find out what version of KDE i am using? [08:45] andrewh192: any KDE application like Dolphin click Help > About KDE === MuzerAway is now known as Muzer === loong is now known as linuxloong === zeroedout_ is now known as zeroedout [09:24] so e be [09:25] ej [09:25] drvar [09:25] so e be [09:25] zelezo [09:37] hi to everyone [09:38] i hav a problem. I mast to resquey grub boot after win 7 installation [09:38] now i'm in kubuntu by livee-cd session [09:39] !grub2 [09:39] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Ubuntu 9.10. For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [09:40] moetunes: thanks but i known i can do this even live-cd [09:40] i don't remember how [09:41] that link will tell [09:41] even by live-cd [09:41] ah ok thanks [10:03] hello. how i can replace the kubuntu notify popups and use the kde ones (4.5.2) [10:04] i'm running 10.10 [10:04] crissi_: as far as i know kubuntu did use the kde ones [10:05] i have upgraded from lucid [10:05] and karmic, janty before [10:06] which packages i have to install? can put your package list into pastebin (dpkg -l | grep ii)? [10:07] i could use it for diffing [10:07] crissi_: what makes you think that kubuntu has changed the notify system to its own rather then kdes? [10:07] hi [10:08] im using kubuntu 10.04 and somehow managed to hide windows from the taskbar so open programs are not visible tehre but i've no idea how that happened :D is there a way to restore taskbar defaults or anything? [10:08] the ubuntu ones does not work correctly [10:08] surunveri: add the widget called "task manager" back to the panel [10:09] for example: http://imgpaste.com/tmp/otwfj.png [10:09] i think the notifications are fetched by the unbuntu ones [10:09] crissi_: :s I would suggest creating a new user and see if they have the same problem [10:10] which packages i have to install? can put your package list into pastebin (dpkg -l | grep ii)? [10:10] thx [10:10] crissi_: you might not nesserly be missing a package... try a new user and see if its a config problem first [10:11] hrr [10:11] Hello, I just installed kubuntu 10.10, when I try to install quanta I get the following message: http://pastebin.com/8hT4w24s , is there anything I can do about this ? [10:11] do you know where i can configure to use the ubuntu ones or the kde ones? [10:12] sona: try running "sudo apt-get update" first [10:12] James147: does not help [10:13] sona: does it give an error? [10:13] nope [10:14] sona: and you can install other packages fine? [10:14] those files seem to be missing from yes [10:14] ops [10:14] yes is the answer [10:14] sona: then I suggest you try a different mirror [10:15] could I easily change to for instance the swedish mirror ? [10:15] sona: I think kpackagekit can do it easaly [10:16] moin [10:16] Hey guys. For some reason, my plasma panel has gone transparent. How do i get the background back? All there is now is the shadow [10:16] James147: problem solved, thanks. === simi is now known as simion314 [10:25] James147: yes, new user got kde notifications [10:25] now, tell me how i can change it for my user === Freejack is now known as Freejack` [10:29] crissi_: not sure if this will help, but you could try renaming .kde/share/config/knotifyrc (and possibally anything else with notifyrc at that location) that should reset to the default settings [10:29] ok, i'll try [10:29] (then logout and back in) [10:30] (running 10.04) I'm having trouble getting rekonq to load in pandora.com - I am using the new square preview of flash with Firefox, but I don't know if rekonq uses that or it's own install of flash. [10:30] rekonq doesn't use it's own flash, hold on, i'll try [10:31] "We are deeply, deeply sorry to say that due to licensing constraints, we can no longer allow access to Pandora for listeners located outside of the U.S. " [10:31] James147: interesting.. the new user has no knotifyrc [10:31] I fear someone else will have to try ;) [10:32] crissi_: it might be a different config file... mostlikly at that location... [10:46] How do i get proper 256 color support in konsole? I have gotten the right colors in vim inside konsole, but neither konsole doing 'ls' or irssi inside console has the right colors [10:46] ferahgo: didn't see your message. Thanks for trying [10:46] that's odd that firefox will load it and re-konq won't [10:47] i think rekonq does some things badly when it comes to flash, I sometimes have flash frames disappearing when scrolling on them [10:47] or it's an error in the netscape-api [10:48] ferahgo: and version of rekonq? [10:48] very latest ppa one [10:48] ok :) [10:48] so i can't help [10:48] it's some two days old I guess [10:49] yeah [10:49] i used that repo too [10:49] don't worry itS fine, i just need to remember not to scroll on the videos but right or left to them :D [10:49] sorry someone can regive me the ubuntu's grub page for restore it? [10:49] ferahgo: right now i am usiing chromium [10:49] and rekonq [10:49] waiting rekonq works better [10:50] sorry someone can regive me the ubuntu's grub page for restore it? [10:50] i dislike chromium for its horrid integration [10:50] ferahgo: you can do it like oxygen [10:50] .. [10:50] !grub | ubuntu [10:51] ubuntu: grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards. [10:51] how, Peace-? [10:51] ferahgo: yeah, its awfull. [10:51] Peace-: thanks ;) [10:52] ferahgo: i got in this way http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-partitionmanger1 [10:53] ferahgo: search in google how to integrate chrome into kde or something like that i have to go eat [10:53] enjoy, thanks [10:53] i'll come back to you, should I want the next level of niceness [10:56] ferahgo: can you find anything about integrating chrome with kde? [10:56] or... anything useful [10:56] i didnt't bother searching actually, I am quite happy with rekonq. if anything doesn't work, I use Opera [10:57] which is evolving very nicely in its snapshots [10:57] ferahgo: ah okay ;) === zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn [11:04] anyone using the daily rekonq ppa version, btw? [11:11] ferahgo: i used some time [11:11] now i use chrome [11:11] xD [11:11] chromium [11:11] i know, mr gentle [11:11] what's the problem? [11:11] the urlbar doesn't show up - but only since the recent update [11:11] * Peace- still programming with kdenlive [11:12] and before I report a bug I wanted to check whether I am the one to encounter such [11:12] owow [11:13] I wish rekonq came even near to google chrome, opera, firefox and safari when it came to passing w3c standards tests [11:13] I would love to use a native browser! [11:14] ChrisBuchholz: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=117783 [11:15] Peace-: i already found that via omg!ubuntu. Even though it looks native, it isnt :P [11:15] ChrisBuchholz: i mean but ... my screenshot looks orribile? [11:16] i have the latest chromiun via ppa ... [11:16] i am especially having trouble with the qt dialogs. If i use the qtcurve stuff so they look native, the font is all too big and i cant change it. If i choose "the other option", i can set font size to fit, but then the style looks something like windows 98 [11:17] Peace-: i have that too. Chromium / google chromium is awesome. If just it was native. [11:17] ChrisBuchholz: well.. chromium is based on webkit [11:17] wekit = khtml +somestuff [11:17] that is correct, yes [11:18] interface is a little thing [11:18] Peace-: ah, not anymore. Webkit is long gone the khtml integration and is now a big big big thing - another thing now. [11:18] Has matured greatly to become the best html engine out there [11:19] i used a lots kthml [11:19] expeccially on blip.tv where you dont' need of flash [11:19] :) [11:19] kmplayer and you can see the videos :D [11:19] yeah - vimeo is also cool. All videos support html5 video instead of flash now [11:20] i prefer blip.tv cuz it's no time limits [11:20] or somestuff like that [11:21] yeah okay. I watch lots of videos on blip.tv too. JSConf stuff and so [11:21] i upload :) [11:21] never done that myself [11:22] hmm... Anyone know how to get correct 256 color support in konsole? [11:22] ChrisBuchholz: actually i am finishing to program a script. fo kdenlive that support automount videos on kdenlive [11:23] Peace-: i dunno what kdenlive is :P Just changed from gnome to KDE yesterday because of all the unity thing which i dont like. [11:23] video editor [11:24] ah okay :) [11:43] is rork here? [11:43] rork, are you here [11:43] yes [11:44] rork, hmm, list windows drop down menu i can't find it [11:44] rork, what version of kde u got? [11:44] 4.4.2 [11:44] rork, i have Platform Version 4.5.1 (KDE 4.5.1) [11:44] rork, probably has changed that menu [11:45] wilhart: I'm afraid so [11:46] rork, hmm, get the new kde? [11:48] only if that is shipped with kubuntu 10.10 [11:49] Hey guys. How do I get proper 256 color support in Konsole? [11:49] wilhart: looks like it is, I'll reboot and see if I can find it for you. [11:52] rork, installed new kde? [11:53] Wilhart: System Settings > Window Behaviour on the main screen the top drop down menu is called "List Windows" [11:55] rork focus,titlebar acttions, window actions, moving, advaned? [11:55] rork, cant find it:P [11:56] rork, ad there task switcher [11:56] rork, current desktop or? [11:57] rork, current desktop grouped by applications [11:57] current desktop [11:57] rork, include desktop ? [11:58] rork, nope === _nertil is now known as nertil [12:02] wilhart: that should be the right setting, that is if you're talking about switching windows of one virtual desktop and between twe physical monitors [12:03] rork, yes but i think my workspace is like 3000x1080p [12:03] rork, twin view [12:03] wilhart: ok, that explains it [12:03] I thought you meant virtual desktops [12:04] rork, it's annoying:P [12:04] nope [12:04] isn't it possible to have a different virtual desktop on each monitor? [12:05] rork, dunno. [12:05] "stick window" probably ? [12:08] rork, hmmm...... [12:08] doesn't sound like that's it, maybe check "System Settings" > "Display and Monitor" > "Multiple Monitors" but I can't help you with this, I only have one monitor [12:08] got to go [12:09] how do i disclude twin view projector (monitor2) from alt-tab? [12:14] hi, I'm trying kubuntu [12:14] unfortunately the wireless networking seems to have a problem [12:15] if I click on the "WLAN Interface" icon in the taskbar it fails to show me a list of available networks [12:17] clicking on "Show More" got me that list (why does that button even exist?) [12:17] but then double clicking on the name of my wireless network does nothing [12:17] I expect to be prompted to enter the wireless key [12:17] should that be what happens? === root is now known as Guest76474 [12:25] jwatt: hi [12:26] Peace-: hi [12:26] jwatt: can you go on systemsettings [12:26] jwatt: and select network [12:27] Peace-: Network Settings, right? [12:27] yea [12:27] ok, I'm there [12:27] then select network connections [12:28] so wireless [12:28] then add [12:28] so scan [12:28] neat little map [12:28] but the text is illegible [12:29] no I can't see the names of the networks [12:29] jwatt: could make a screenshot [12:29] ah [12:29] there's a details option [12:29] ok, I see my network [12:29] :) [12:30] do I need to enter anything for "BSSID"? [12:30] no just double cick on the your network [12:30] shodul be added automatically [12:31] ok, I've hit OK and Apply all the way out [12:32] and it now shows up when I click on the "WLAN Interface" icon in the taskbar [12:32] but still nothing happens when I click on it [12:32] double click I mean [12:32] and I'm not prompted for the network key [12:33] have you some password? [12:33] because if you have not set on the network manager ... [12:33] it iwll not connect [12:34] * jwatt goes back into network connections and edits [12:34] hi guys. what's virtuoso-t? it's using up my cpu [12:34] progre55: wow [12:34] progre55: kill it [12:34] :) [12:34] virtuoso is a file indexing [12:34] service [12:35] ah, I see [12:35] sysstemsettings and disable indexing [12:35] hi all I installed kubuntu on a laptop using unetbootin and net install....at the end grub was installed on the usb pen and not in the hard disk ...what is the way to install boot on hardisk ? [12:35] either that or limit it to folders [12:35] where indexing is useful [12:35] why have it int he first place if it sucks? ) [12:35] !grub | gigirock [12:35] gigirock: grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards. [12:35] hmm, okay, so in the wireless security tab I don't know what to select [12:35] danni_: to me indexing is not neccesary [12:36] it has defaulted to None, for some reason [12:36] Well in that case fire away [12:36] can't it detect what type of security is in use on the wireless network automatically? [12:36] jwatt: of course is none by default [12:36] jwatt: ok which is the name of your network? [12:36] (You might need it if you use Kontact) [12:37] Peace-: why? my mac and windows machines both detected the type of wireless security in use automatically [12:37] jwatt: linux is no windows [12:37] Peace-: where do you disable it? [12:37] sure [12:37] ciao Peace tutto a posto con gli occhi :) [12:37] jwatt: or you should use an antivirus :) [12:37] gigirock: english please [12:37] Peace-: which menu on the systemsettings window? ) [12:37] progre55: there is a filter bar... use it :) [12:37] Peace-: ciao everything is ok with your eyes ? [12:38] Peace-: I thought Kubuntu was for human beings, no? so I'd really hope if wouldn't need me to enter all these tech details [12:38] gigirock: yea i can say they are ok [12:38] jwatt: linux is always linux [12:38]