[00:08] <judgen> Is there any good minimalistic desktop enviroments made with qt like the antico project that is still developed?
[00:14] <Kalidarn> hmm for some reason pinentry comes up 3 times and i dont get a change to enter a password
[00:14] <Kalidarn> its like it enters one in for me :(
[00:15] <Kalidarn> [01:23] <FeasibilityStudy> Anyone having issues with pinentry-qt4 failing with Lucid?  When it pops up, it doesnt give time to enter the password, it just blinks 3 times and says incorrect password.
[00:15] <Kalidarn> looks like im not the ony one
[00:19] <Kalidarn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pinentry-qt4/+bug/371178 looks like its broken in kubuntu :P
[00:23] <smooph> hi i am looking for a way to shutdown my pc remotly
[00:24] <smooph> right now i use ssh with "shutdown -h now" but i think its forcing a hard shutdown where kde isn't turned off correctly
[01:40] <SCWLstmp> Hello everyone
[01:40] <gizmobay> Hi
[01:40] <SCWLstmp> Does anyone have any ideas to print multiple files in one go? Akin to the old KDE 3.x method of selecting multiple, right click, print
[01:41] <SCWLstmp> Some basic googling has found people gripping about this functionality no longer being present in KDE, but I haven't found any solutions really.
[02:26] <nbnds> hi there! i'd like to know if kde 4.5.2 has oficially arrived to 10.10? i did just testd it on fedora 14, its awesome and the  and no more lags!
[02:26] <DarthFrog> nbnds: It's in the PPA repo.
[02:27] <nbnds> means add the repo and do apt-get upgrade?
[02:27] <DarthFrog> yes.
[02:28] <nbnds> people i'm switching to KDE, really :D
[02:28] <nbnds> thx for help cu
[02:28] <DarthFrog>  sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:28] <DarthFrog> All on one line.
[04:28] <westyvw> debian
[04:28] <westyvw> eh?
[04:41] <Pavlz> http://www.gopetition.com/petition/40352.html for untrusted hardware
[04:42] <gr8m8> how could hardware be untrusted?
[04:43] <Pavlz> watch http://www.lemote.com/en
[04:43] <Pavlz> and in particular the netbook Yeelong
[04:44] <Pavlz> totally untrusted with FreeBios
[04:44] <Pavlz> Mips 64 bit, 900 Mhz
[04:45] <Pavlz> on which can runs GNU/linux gNewSense or any other distribution such as GNU/linux Blag or GNU/linux Dragora, GNU/linux cDynebolic, GNU/linux Musix, GNU/linux Trisquel, GNU/linux Ututo, GNU/linux Venenux
[04:45] <Pavlz> it is only necessary to build for mips
[04:46] <Pavlz> but i am not interested only to mips, but to any type of architecture
[04:46] <Pavlz> totally untrusted
[05:27] <DarthFrog> Untrusted by whom?
[05:38] <Kalidarn> bah
[05:38] <Kalidarn> cpu usage is crazy!
[05:41] <Kalidarn> god this is horrible
[05:41] <Kalidarn> xorg seems to spike to 30 or so % usage
[05:41] <DarthFrog> Xorg or apps running in X?
[05:42] <Kalidarn> no xorg process
[05:42] <Kalidarn> ive only got kontact, kopete and quassel open
[05:42] <Kalidarn> oh and system monitor
[05:44] <Kalidarn> then it seems to come down a bit
[05:44] <Kalidarn> using nvidia proprietary
[05:44] <Kalidarn> with a GTX 470 with Blur disabled
[05:44] <Kalidarn> http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2987/imagepi.png
[05:46] <Kalidarn> i guess i can try noaveu
[05:46] <Kalidarn> and seee if it stops it
[05:48] <Kalidarn> hmm
[05:49] <Kalidarn> my machine isn't lagging so much but Xorg is still going from 3% 4% 16% 41% 3% 18% 21% 6% 2% 1% 2% 6% 13% 8%
[05:49] <Kalidarn> as soon as i do anything
[05:49] <Kalidarn> it spikes
[05:50] <DarthFrog> Why are you fussing about this?
[05:50] <Kalidarn> because sometimes it gets into a bout
[05:50] <Kalidarn> where it will get stuck on 30%
[05:50] <Kalidarn> like in the above image and then everything seizes up
[05:50] <Kalidarn> you can see in the graph there
[05:51] <Kalidarn> the firefox, kontact, kopete  system monitor processes remained all normal
[05:51] <Kalidarn> i know its not kontact or kopete because i only started using them recently was using thunderbird and pidgin :P
[05:52] <Kalidarn> and i only started using quassel recently before i was using weechat
[06:13] <nikhil_> is there a way to get konversation to minimize to the message indicator just like kopete does?
[06:27] <ubuXubu> sup...
[06:39] <ubuXubu> MetaBot, are u feeling alright?
[06:40] <ubuXubu> u simply click on the Konversation minimized icon and boom, ...
[06:45] <ChrisBuchholz> Hey guys. I am just setting up my new kubuntu box (migrated from Ubuntu yesterday) and are wondering if there exists a KDE-specific app like the one i used on Ubuntu called startupmanager, to fix my "startup settings" like colors and screen resolution, or if that one is also the same used on KDE?
[06:47] <elimental> Syste, Settings bottom called Startup and shutdown ChrisBuchholz
[06:47] <elimental> system*
[06:49] <elimental> Sorry I didnt read entire question I thought you wanted autostart
[06:49] <ChrisBuchholz> elimental: oh, no worries;)
[06:49] <ChrisBuchholz> elimental: problem is, when i enable my nvidia driver, i get all wrong resolution and only 8 colors on the plymouth screen. I usually fix this with the gnome app startupmanager
[06:50] <elimental> Yeah I know... havent found one yet, moved to kde about a week ago :)
[06:51] <elimental> gnome user myself... but Unity forced me to move to kde early :)
[06:51] <geekosopher> ChrisBuchholz: check the 'display' option in system settings
[06:51] <ChrisBuchholz> elimental: oh, funny! I did that too, for exactly the same reasons!!!
[06:51] <ChrisBuchholz> geekosopher: thank you, ill take a look
[06:53] <geekosopher> can't say for sure if your changed settings will remain so after rebooting, no experience with nvidia cards (or any card for that matter)
[06:53] <elimental> ChrisBuchholz: weat we looking for is http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=75442
[06:53] <elimental> but its not in 4.5 as it doesnt suport grub 2 yet
[06:53] <ChrisBuchholz> elimental: oh...
[06:54] <ChrisBuchholz> geekosopher: the settings seems to be right in there
[06:55] <geekosopher> hmm, but the output is not what you expect?
[06:56] <ChrisBuchholz> geekosopher: well, i figure that in system settings > display, it only targets when i am in kde right? I did on gnome anyways. I had to use the startupmanager application, which configure grub, to set specific resolution and colors. I guess what i am looking for is a KDE app to configure grub
[06:57] <ChrisBuchholz> it did on gnome*
[06:57] <geekosopher> oh, ok
[06:58] <geekosopher> ChrisBuchholz: sorry i mis-interpreted
[06:58] <ChrisBuchholz> geekosopher: no worries, mate
[07:12] <geekosopher> ChrisBuchholz: well i see that startupmanager depends on lot of gnome stuff, but if you don't mind installing it, you are good to go
[07:33] <v1ttu> how do i make hdmi audio work in 10.10?
[07:37] <geekosopher> ktorrent had partially downloaded a file when I switched from jaunty to maverick. The file was being saved on another partition so it is intact even after clean fresh install of maverick. What I am wondering is, if i copy the .kde/share/apps/ktorrent of jaunty to maverick, will it resume downloading from where it left?
[07:39] <moetunes> interesting question - only one way to find out I guess :)
[07:39] <danni_> geekosopher: Probably
[07:40] <danni_> but you might want to copy settings from ~/.kde/share/apps and
[07:40] <danni_> ~/.kde/share/config as well
[07:40] <danni_> oh wait
[07:40] <danni_> you don't have those
[07:41] <danni_> anyways most likely yes
[07:41] <geekosopher> danni_: ok, trying
[07:41] <geekosopher> moetunes: :D
[08:07] <andrewh192> ok
[08:07] <andrewh192> i have a question for you...
[08:07] <andrewh192> I have downloaded and supposedly installed a few themes for my login screen
[08:08] <andrewh192> but they won't appear as choices for themes
[08:08] <andrewh192> just the default one
[08:08] <andrewh192> is available
[08:09] <andrewh192> i am a little curious where these files go, so maybe i can try to manually install them
[08:10] <andrewh192> via the "insttall new theme" button
[08:12] <jussi> andrewh192: where did you down load them?
[08:12] <jussi> ie. in which program?
[08:13] <andrewh192> hey
[08:13] <andrewh192> from the login screen  get new themes button
[08:14] <andrewh192> Login Screen-System Settings
[08:14] <jussi> oho? theres a get new themes button on the login screen now? didnt know about that one...
[08:14] <jussi> oh
[08:14] <andrewh192> yeah
[08:14] <jussi> one sec
[08:14] <andrewh192> but, it seems that when i supposedly choose one from the list, and "install" it
[08:14] <jussi> I knew there was one in system settings, just thought you meant on the actual login
[08:15] <andrewh192> it never shows up on my list to choose from
[08:15] <andrewh192> oh
[08:15] <andrewh192> yeah
[08:15] <andrewh192> that's the one i meant
[08:15] <andrewh192> didn't mean at actual login
[08:15] <andrewh192> sorry
[08:15] <andrewh192> my bad
[08:15] <FloodBotK2> andrewh192: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:15] <andrewh192> should have explained that better
[08:16] <andrewh192> am i supposed to login as root or something and then change that? because i have been able to successfully change other themes
[08:16] <jussi> andrewh192: give me a sec, Im playing - seems I get the same thing
[08:16] <andrewh192> but for some reason it won't let me install a new theme for the login screen
[08:17] <andrewh192> how do you install a new login screen theme?
[08:17] <nafri> hello... which is the best MSN client for linux with webcam support?
[08:18] <jussi> andrewh192: first, this is a bug and needs fixing. second, let me try one thing to see if I can sort a work around
[08:18] <jussi> nafri: I think kopete does a good job of it
[08:19] <nafri> jussi: kopete does support webcam but not for msn :(
[08:20] <jussi> really? I was pretty sure it did...
[08:21] <andrewh192> do you know where those theme files get put?
[08:21] <andrewh192> maybe i can install theme manually
[08:21] <jussi> andrewh192: it is a bug - please file it if you have time. I also have a workaround for now
[08:21] <andrewh192> ok
[08:22] <andrewh192> kewl
[08:22] <andrewh192> i am all ears
[08:22] <Tm_T> jussi: atleast it did at some point, have to test it if it still does
[08:23] <jussi> andrewh192: if you go to kde-look.org and click KDM themes you can download the themes normally from there - then just use the "install new theme" button and choose the downloaded file
[08:24] <jussi> andrewh192: please do go file the bug - are you familiar with how to do that?
[08:24] <andrewh192> nope
[08:24] <andrewh192> i would assume its somewhere on kubuntu.org?
[08:25] <jussi> !bug
[08:25] <jussi> andrewh192: filing bugs is a really easy way to help the devs make kubuntu even better - just ask if you need a hand :)
[08:41] <andrewh192> it looks like there is several people that have already filed the same bug
[08:42] <andrewh192> it appears i don't need to.. unless you think i should anyway....
[08:43] <andrewh192> hey
[08:43] <andrewh192> how do i find out what version of KDE i am using?
[08:45] <nobarking> andrewh192: any KDE application like Dolphin click Help > About KDE
[09:24] <ucenik07> so e be
[09:25] <ucenik13> ej
[09:25] <ucenik13> drvar
[09:25] <ucenik07> so  e be
[09:25] <ucenik07> zelezo
[09:37] <ubuntu> hi to everyone
[09:38] <ubuntu> i hav a problem. I mast to resquey grub boot after win 7 installation
[09:38] <ubuntu> now i'm in kubuntu by livee-cd session
[09:39] <moetunes> !grub2
[09:40] <ubuntu> moetunes: thanks but i known i can do this even live-cd
[09:40] <ubuntu> i don't remember how
[09:41] <moetunes> that link will tell
[09:41] <ubuntu> even by live-cd
[09:41] <ubuntu> ah ok thanks
[10:03] <crissi_> hello. how i can replace the kubuntu notify popups and use the kde ones (4.5.2)
[10:04] <crissi_> i'm running 10.10
[10:04] <James147> crissi_: as far as i know kubuntu did use the kde ones
[10:05] <crissi_> i have upgraded from lucid
[10:05] <crissi_> and karmic, janty before
[10:06] <crissi_> which packages i have to install? can put your package list into pastebin (dpkg -l | grep ii)?
[10:07] <crissi_> i could use it for diffing
[10:07] <James147> crissi_: what makes you think that kubuntu has changed the notify system to its own rather then kdes?
[10:07] <surunveri> hi
[10:08] <surunveri> im using kubuntu 10.04 and somehow managed to hide windows from the taskbar so open programs are not visible tehre but i've no idea how that happened :D is there a way to restore taskbar defaults or anything?
[10:08] <crissi_> the ubuntu ones does not work correctly
[10:08] <James147> surunveri: add the widget called "task manager" back to the panel
[10:09] <crissi_> for example: http://imgpaste.com/tmp/otwfj.png
[10:09] <crissi_> i think the notifications are fetched by the unbuntu ones
[10:09] <James147> crissi_: :s I would suggest creating a new user and see if they have the same problem
[10:10] <crissi_> which packages i have to install? can put your package list into pastebin (dpkg -l | grep ii)?
[10:10] <surunveri> thx
[10:10] <James147> crissi_: you might not nesserly be missing a package... try a new user and see if its a config problem first
[10:11] <crissi_> hrr
[10:11] <sona> Hello, I just installed kubuntu 10.10, when I try to install quanta I get the following message: http://pastebin.com/8hT4w24s , is there anything I can do about this ?
[10:11] <crissi_> do you know where i can configure to use the ubuntu ones or the kde ones?
[10:12] <James147> sona: try running "sudo apt-get update" first
[10:12] <sona> James147: does not help
[10:13] <James147> sona: does it give an error?
[10:13] <sona> nope
[10:14] <James147> sona: and you can install other packages fine?
[10:14] <sona> those files seem to be missing from yes
[10:14] <sona> ops
[10:14] <sona> yes is the answer
[10:14] <James147> sona: then I suggest you try a different mirror
[10:15] <sona> could I easily change to for instance the swedish mirror ?
[10:15] <James147> sona: I think kpackagekit can do it easaly
[10:16] <Sysopa> moin
[10:16] <ChrisBuchholz> Hey guys. For some reason, my plasma panel has gone transparent. How do i get the background back? All there is now is the shadow
[10:16] <sona> James147: problem solved, thanks.
[10:25] <crissi_> James147: yes, new user got kde notifications
[10:25] <crissi_> now, tell me how i can change it for my user
[10:29] <James147> crissi_: not sure if this will help, but you could try renaming .kde/share/config/knotifyrc  (and possibally anything else with notifyrc at that location) that should reset to the default settings
[10:29] <crissi_> ok, i'll try
[10:29] <James147> (then  logout and back in)
[10:30] <Walzmyn> (running 10.04) I'm having trouble getting rekonq to load in pandora.com - I am using the new square preview of flash with Firefox, but I don't know if rekonq uses that or it's own install of flash.
[10:30] <ferahgo> rekonq doesn't use it's own flash, hold on, i'll try
[10:31] <ferahgo> "We are deeply, deeply sorry to say that due to licensing constraints, we can no longer allow access to Pandora for listeners located outside of the U.S. "
[10:31] <crissi_> James147: interesting.. the new user has no knotifyrc
[10:31] <ferahgo> I fear someone else will have to try ;)
[10:32] <James147> crissi_: it might be a different config file... mostlikly at that location...
[10:46] <ChrisBuchholz> How do i get proper 256 color support in konsole? I have gotten the right colors in vim inside konsole, but neither konsole doing 'ls' or irssi inside console has the right colors
[10:46] <Walzmyn> ferahgo: didn't see your message. Thanks for trying
[10:46] <Walzmyn> that's odd that firefox will load it and re-konq won't
[10:47] <ferahgo> i think rekonq does some things badly when it comes to flash, I sometimes have flash frames disappearing when scrolling on them
[10:47] <ferahgo> or it's an error in the netscape-api
[10:48] <Peace-> ferahgo: and version of rekonq?
[10:48] <ferahgo> very latest ppa one
[10:48] <Peace-> ok :)
[10:48] <Peace-> so i can't help
[10:48] <ferahgo> it's some two days old I guess
[10:49] <Peace-> yeah
[10:49] <Peace-> i used that repo too
[10:49] <ferahgo> don't worry itS fine, i just need to remember not to scroll on the videos but right or left to them :D
[10:49] <ubuntu> sorry someone can regive me the ubuntu's grub page for restore it?
[10:49] <Peace-> ferahgo: right now i am usiing chromium
[10:49] <Peace-> and rekonq
[10:49] <Peace-> waiting rekonq works better
[10:50] <ubuntu> sorry someone can regive me the ubuntu's grub page for restore it?
[10:50] <ferahgo> i dislike chromium for its horrid integration
[10:50] <Peace-> ferahgo: you can do it like oxygen
[10:50] <Peace-> ..
[10:50] <Peace-> !grub | ubuntu
[10:51] <ferahgo> how, Peace-?
[10:51] <ChrisBuchholz> ferahgo: yeah, its awfull.
[10:51] <ubuntu> Peace-: thanks ;)
[10:52] <Peace-> ferahgo: i got in this way http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-partitionmanger1
[10:53] <Peace-> ferahgo: search in google how to integrate chrome into kde or something like that i have to go eat
[10:53] <ferahgo> enjoy, thanks
[10:53] <ferahgo> i'll come back to you, should I want the next level of niceness
[10:56] <ChrisBuchholz> ferahgo: can you find anything about integrating chrome with kde?
[10:56] <ChrisBuchholz> or... anything useful
[10:56] <ferahgo> i didnt't bother searching actually, I am quite happy with rekonq. if anything doesn't work, I use Opera
[10:57] <ferahgo> which is evolving very nicely in its snapshots
[10:57] <ChrisBuchholz> ferahgo: ah okay ;)
[11:04] <ferahgo> anyone using the daily rekonq ppa version, btw?
[11:11] <Peace-> ferahgo: i used some time
[11:11] <Peace-> now i use chrome
[11:11] <Peace-> xD
[11:11] <Peace-> chromium
[11:11] <ferahgo> i know, mr gentle
[11:11] <Peace-> what's the problem?
[11:11] <ferahgo> the urlbar doesn't show up - but only since the recent update
[11:11]  * Peace- still programming with kdenlive
[11:12] <ferahgo> and before I report a bug I wanted to check whether I am the one to encounter such
[11:12] <Peace-> owow
[11:13] <ChrisBuchholz> I wish rekonq came even near to google chrome, opera, firefox and safari when it came to passing w3c standards tests
[11:13] <ChrisBuchholz> I would love to use a native browser!
[11:14] <Peace-> ChrisBuchholz: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=117783
[11:15] <ChrisBuchholz> Peace-: i already found that via omg!ubuntu. Even though it looks native, it isnt :P
[11:15] <Peace-> ChrisBuchholz: i mean but ... my screenshot looks orribile?
[11:16] <Peace-> i have the latest chromiun via ppa ...
[11:16] <ChrisBuchholz> i am especially having trouble with the qt dialogs. If i use the qtcurve stuff so they look native, the font is all too big and i cant change it. If i choose "the other option", i can set font size to fit, but then the style looks something like windows 98
[11:17] <ChrisBuchholz> Peace-: i have that too. Chromium / google chromium is awesome. If just it was native.
[11:17] <Peace-> ChrisBuchholz: well.. chromium is based on webkit
[11:17] <Peace-> wekit = khtml +somestuff
[11:17] <ChrisBuchholz> that is correct, yes
[11:18] <Peace-> interface is a little thing
[11:18] <ChrisBuchholz> Peace-: ah, not anymore. Webkit is long gone the khtml integration and is now a big big big thing - another thing now.
[11:18] <ChrisBuchholz> Has matured greatly to become the best html engine out there
[11:19] <Peace-> i used a lots kthml
[11:19] <Peace-> expeccially on blip.tv where you dont' need of flash
[11:19] <Peace-> :)
[11:19] <Peace-> kmplayer and you can see the videos :D
[11:19] <ChrisBuchholz> yeah - vimeo is also cool. All videos support html5 video instead of flash now
[11:20] <Peace-> i prefer blip.tv cuz it's no time limits
[11:20] <Peace-> or somestuff like that
[11:21] <ChrisBuchholz> yeah okay. I watch lots of videos on blip.tv too. JSConf stuff and so
[11:21] <Peace-> i upload :)
[11:21] <ChrisBuchholz> never done that myself
[11:22] <ChrisBuchholz> hmm... Anyone know how to get correct 256 color support in konsole?
[11:22] <Peace-> ChrisBuchholz: actually i am finishing to program a script. fo kdenlive that support automount videos on kdenlive
[11:23] <ChrisBuchholz> Peace-: i dunno what kdenlive is :P Just changed from gnome to KDE yesterday because of all the unity thing which i dont like.
[11:23] <Peace-> video editor
[11:24] <ChrisBuchholz> ah okay :)
[11:43] <wilhart> is rork here?
[11:43] <wilhart> rork, are you here
[11:43] <rork> yes
[11:44] <wilhart> rork, hmm, list windows drop down menu i can't find it
[11:44] <wilhart> rork, what version of kde u got?
[11:44] <rork> 4.4.2
[11:44] <wilhart> rork, i have Platform Version 4.5.1 (KDE 4.5.1)
[11:44] <wilhart> rork, probably has changed that menu
[11:45] <rork> wilhart: I'm afraid so
[11:46] <wilhart> rork, hmm, get the new kde?
[11:48] <rork> only if that is shipped with kubuntu 10.10
[11:49] <ChrisBuchholz> Hey guys. How do I get proper 256 color support in Konsole?
[11:49] <rork> wilhart: looks like it is, I'll reboot and see if I can find it for you.
[11:52] <wilhart> rork, installed new kde?
[11:53] <rork> Wilhart: System Settings > Window Behaviour on the main screen the top drop down menu is called "List Windows"
[11:55] <wilhart> rork focus,titlebar acttions, window actions, moving, advaned?
[11:55] <wilhart> rork, cant find it:P
[11:56] <wilhart> rork, ad there task switcher
[11:56] <wilhart> rork, current desktop or?
[11:57] <wilhart> rork, current desktop grouped by applications
[11:57] <rork> current desktop
[11:57] <wilhart> rork, include desktop ?
[11:58] <wilhart> rork, nope
[12:02] <rork> wilhart: that should be the right setting, that is if you're talking about switching windows of one virtual desktop and between twe physical monitors
[12:03] <wilhart> rork, yes but i think my workspace is like 3000x1080p
[12:03] <wilhart> rork, twin view
[12:03] <rork> wilhart: ok, that explains it
[12:03] <rork> I thought you meant virtual desktops
[12:04] <wilhart> rork, it's annoying:P
[12:04] <wilhart> nope
[12:04] <rork> isn't it possible to have a different virtual desktop on each monitor?
[12:05] <wilhart> rork, dunno.
[12:05] <wilhart> "stick window" probably ?
[12:08] <wilhart> rork, hmmm......
[12:08] <rork> doesn't sound like that's it, maybe check "System Settings" > "Display and Monitor" > "Multiple Monitors" but I can't help you with this, I only have one monitor
[12:08] <rork> got to go
[12:09] <wilhart>  how do i disclude twin view projector (monitor2) from alt-tab?
[12:14] <jwatt> hi, I'm trying kubuntu
[12:14] <jwatt> unfortunately the wireless networking seems to have a problem
[12:15] <jwatt> if I click on the "WLAN Interface" icon in the taskbar it fails to show me a list of available networks
[12:17] <jwatt> clicking on "Show More" got me that list (why does that button even exist?)
[12:17] <jwatt> but then double clicking on the name of my wireless network does nothing
[12:17] <jwatt> I expect to be prompted to enter the wireless key
[12:17] <jwatt> should that be what happens?
[12:25] <Peace-> jwatt: hi
[12:26] <jwatt> Peace-: hi
[12:26] <Peace-> jwatt: can you go on systemsettings
[12:26] <Peace-> jwatt: and select network
[12:27] <jwatt> Peace-: Network Settings, right?
[12:27] <Peace-> yea
[12:27] <jwatt> ok, I'm there
[12:27] <Peace-> then select  network connections
[12:28] <Peace-> so wireless
[12:28] <Peace-> then add
[12:28] <Peace-> so scan
[12:28] <jwatt> neat little map
[12:28] <jwatt> but the text is illegible
[12:29] <jwatt> no I can't see the names of the networks
[12:29] <Peace-> jwatt: could make a screenshot
[12:29] <jwatt> ah
[12:29] <jwatt> there's a details option
[12:29] <jwatt> ok, I see my network
[12:29] <Peace-> :)
[12:30] <jwatt> do I need to enter anything for "BSSID"?
[12:30] <Peace-> no just double cick on the your network
[12:30] <Peace-> shodul be added automatically
[12:31] <jwatt> ok, I've hit OK and Apply all the way out
[12:32] <jwatt> and it now shows up when I click on the "WLAN Interface" icon in the taskbar
[12:32] <jwatt> but still nothing happens when I click on it
[12:32] <jwatt> double click I mean
[12:32] <jwatt> and I'm not prompted for the network key
[12:33] <Peace-> have you some password?
[12:33] <Peace-> because if you have not set on the network manager ...
[12:33] <Peace-> it iwll not connect
[12:34]  * jwatt goes back into network connections and edits
[12:34] <progre55> hi guys. what's virtuoso-t? it's using up my cpu
[12:34] <Peace-> progre55: wow
[12:34] <Peace-> progre55: kill it
[12:34] <Peace-> :)
[12:34] <danni_> virtuoso is a file indexing
[12:34] <danni_> service
[12:35] <progre55> ah, I see
[12:35] <Peace-> sysstemsettings and disable indexing
[12:35] <gigirock> hi all I installed kubuntu on a laptop using unetbootin and net install....at the end grub was installed on the usb pen and not in the hard disk ...what is the way to install boot on hardisk ?
[12:35] <danni_> either that or limit it to folders
[12:35] <danni_> where indexing is useful
[12:35] <progre55> why have it int he first place if it sucks? )
[12:35] <Peace-> !grub | gigirock
[12:35] <jwatt> hmm, okay, so in the wireless security tab I don't know what to select
[12:35] <Peace-> danni_: to me indexing is not neccesary
[12:36] <jwatt> it has defaulted to None, for some reason
[12:36] <danni_> Well in that case fire away
[12:36] <jwatt> can't it detect what type of security is in use on the wireless network automatically?
[12:36] <Peace-> jwatt: of course is none by default
[12:36] <Peace-> jwatt: ok which is the name of your network?
[12:36] <danni_> (You might need it if you use Kontact)
[12:37] <jwatt> Peace-: why? my mac and windows machines both detected the type of wireless security in use automatically
[12:37] <Peace-> jwatt: linux is no windows
[12:37] <progre55> Peace-: where do you disable it?
[12:37] <jwatt> sure
[12:37] <gigirock> ciao Peace tutto a posto  con gli occhi :)
[12:37] <Peace-> jwatt: or you should use an antivirus :)
[12:37] <Peace-> gigirock: english please
[12:37] <progre55> Peace-: which menu on the systemsettings window? )
[12:37] <Peace-> progre55: there is a filter bar... use it :)
[12:37] <gigirock> Peace-: ciao everything is ok with your eyes ?
[12:38] <jwatt> Peace-: I thought Kubuntu was for human beings, no? so I'd really hope if wouldn't need me to enter all these tech details
[12:38] <Peace-> gigirock: yea i can say they are ok
[12:38] <Peace-> jwatt: linux is always linux
[12:38] <progre55> Peace-: doesnt really help)
[12:38] <jwatt> it should just really show me what wireless networks are available, let me double click on one, enter the network key, and done
[12:39] <Peace-> progre55: semantic desktop
[12:39]  * jwatt tries to figure out from his mac what type of encryption is used
[12:39] <Peace-> progre55: search for that
[12:39] <Peace-> jwatt: well use mac or windows
[12:39] <progre55> Peace-: oh, it was "desktop search". thanks =)
[12:40] <Peace-> jwatt: you need of some stuff
[12:40] <Peace-> jwatt: the name of your interface
[12:40] <Peace-> jwatt: to get iwconfig
[12:40] <Peace-> should be ath0 wlan0 or something like that
[12:40] <Peace-> then
[12:40] <Peace-> sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[12:40] <Peace-> or sudo iwlist ath0 scan
[12:40] <Peace-> or maybe
[12:40] <Peace-> better
[12:41] <Peace-> sudo iwlist ath0 scan | grep NAME OF NETWORK
[12:41] <Peace-> mm nope
[12:41] <Peace-> it' better iwlist ath0 scan
[12:41] <Peace-> hten you get some informations about your network
[12:41] <Peace-> that you should know anyway...
[12:41] <jwatt> ugh - I really thought "Linux for human beings" meant something
[12:42] <Peace-> linux is a performance os
[12:42] <Peace-> but performance os it's only for few guys
[12:42] <Peace-> not for click click ok guys
[12:42] <Peace-> if you dont like it just use mac
[12:43] <Peace-> high performance
[12:43] <Peace-> *high performance
[12:44] <jwatt> having the OS be smart and figure things out for you does not conflict with being high performance
[12:44] <jwatt> but okay
[12:46] <Peace-> jwatt: linux is born to be used without interface... that is and for administrators only
[12:47] <Peace-> so administrators know specific stuff like psk encryption or wep wpa2 stuff
[12:47] <Peace-> or they are not administrators
[12:47] <Peace-> :)
[12:50] <jwatt> Peace-: are you sure you shouldn't be in #slackware ? :)
[12:51] <Peace-> jwatt: slacks is only a flavor
[12:51] <Peace-> linux it's linux always
[12:54] <Akinraze> Morning everyone
[12:54] <Peace-> mornimg
[12:55] <Peace-> morning
[12:55] <Akinraze> I am having issues getting video to work properly in Kubuntu 10.10///// can anyone help?
[12:55] <Peace-> Akinraze: explain better
[12:56] <Akinraze> well I did a fresh install, then started reading about installng the ATI drivers, so I read several how-tos on how to do so and all attempts fail saying my cards not supported...
[12:56] <Peace-> ok
[12:57] <Akinraze> I further searched teh dir's and find no xorg.conf
[12:57] <Peace-> Akinraze: using vlc you get the problem ?
[12:57] <Akinraze> vlc?
[12:57] <Peace-> i cna't understand which is the problem with the video
[12:58] <Akinraze> the video is jarbled.... remnents from windows all about
[12:58] <Peace-> you have saind i got a problem with video ... i can't understnad you play a video and it is displayed bad or what?
[12:59] <Akinraze> all the menus are slow and leave trails that stay
[12:59] <Peace-> ok so the desktop is slow
[12:59] <Peace-> in every aspect
[12:59] <Peace-> ?
[13:00] <Akinraze> oh yes
[13:00] <Akinraze> lol
[13:00] <Peace-> well it's the driver
[13:00] <Peace-> i guess
[13:00] <Peace-> Akinraze: try to go in sysstem settings
[13:00] <Akinraze> indeed
[13:00] <Peace-> desktop
[13:00] <Peace-> so advanced
[13:00] <Peace-> so try to use xrender
[13:00] <Peace-> instead of opengl
[13:01] <Peace-> Akinraze: i am not english
[13:01] <Akinraze> no problems
[13:01] <Peace-> it's the second language sorry
[13:03] <BluesKaj> howdy
[13:03] <Peace-> BluesKaj: hi
[13:04] <BluesKaj> hi Peace-
[13:06] <Rounin> Hello! I'm seeing a system tray icon related to kpackagekitd popping up every few minutes and disappearing again, and it's getting really annoying... Is there any way to disable it?
[13:06] <Peace-> Rounin: of course
[13:06] <Peace-> Rounin: systemsetting notifications
[13:07] <Peace-> or right cick on the notifications icon
[13:07] <Rounin> Ah... Thanks, Peace-.. I've killed kpackagekitd more times than I can count now :P
[13:07] <Peace-> and the consider to install colibri
[13:07] <Peace-> colibri is a nice , to me system of notifications ,
[13:08] <Rounin> Ah... Thanks
[13:19] <ad31n> Hy! Vki magyar?
[13:28] <wilhart>  how do i disclude twin view projector (monitor2) from alt-tab?
[13:29] <Peace-> disclude?
[13:29] <BluesKaj> disclude? don't you mean exclude
[13:30] <Peace-> xD
[13:36] <ChrisBuchholz> Hey guys. After installing Kubuntu 10.10 on my laptop (i came from Ubuntu 10.10) i experience a much slower internet experience. Webpages takes much longer to load, and a irc channel can take several minutes to join where i am used to almost instant joining. I wonder if this is a known issue with a solution, or? I dont wanna go back to gnome if i can be free :P
[13:37] <moetunes> what's yhe cpu usage like when doing these things?
[13:37] <moetunes> *the
[13:40] <ChrisBuchholz> moetunes: almost none.
[13:40] <ChrisBuchholz> moetunes: it seems at a glance
[13:41] <ChrisBuchholz> moetunes: but it is all time. Hmm, just tried to use a wired connection - i dont have this issue here. It seems to be a problem with my wireless connector. Maybe a bad driver?
[13:41] <moetunes> strange... - there have been issues with diff vid cards using the cou alot ChrisBuchholz
[13:41] <moetunes> *cpu
[13:42] <moetunes> ChrisBuchholz:  I never use wireless so I don't have anything to suggest except keep an eye on the cpu
[13:43] <ChrisBuchholz> moetunes: okay - i will
[13:43] <ChrisBuchholz> How come i cant seem to make the font smaller ALL over KDE?
[13:44] <ChrisBuchholz> I have had to change the font to size 7 to make it similar to what i had in ubuntu, but there is still places where it doesnt seem to take effect
[13:47] <parkguy> um
[13:47] <parkguy> i got a problem
[13:47] <RurouniJones> Just ask
[13:47] <parkguy> ok
[13:48] <parkguy> i installed it through the application
[13:48] <parkguy> from windwos
[13:48] <parkguy> windows*
[13:48] <parkguy> then it asked to reboot
[13:48] <parkguy> so i did
[13:48] <parkguy> and selected it from the boot menu thingy
[13:48] <wilhart> is there any othere konsole software
[13:48] <parkguy> then
[13:48] <RurouniJones> Hmm, anyone installed 10.10 onto an Asus eee PC netbook via usb stick? I just get a syslinux prompt "boot:" and no idea what to do next
[13:48] <wilhart> any nice konsole
[13:48] <wilhart> not gnome-terminal
[13:49] <wilhart> like konsole!
[13:49] <parkguy> the display was not support
[13:49] <parkguy> ..
[13:49] <parkguy> the image was messed up
[13:49] <parkguy> o.o
[13:49] <parkguy> tried both my gfx card and the one from the motherboard
[13:49] <parkguy> supported*
[13:49] <Pici> !enter
[13:49] <parkguy> :P
[13:50] <parkguy> lol sorry its a habit
[13:51] <RurouniJones> It appears to be looking for a kernel but no matches to stuff like mvlinuz
[13:56] <rork> parkguy: from the boot menu, select "recovery mode", this will give you a commandline, login if neccesary and type `startx`
[13:56] <rork> couldn't even wait for me to finish my sentence lol
[13:58] <wilhart> is there any new konsole like kde default one?
[13:58] <rork> RurouniJones: what do you see if you type `ls` into that prompt?
[13:58] <RurouniJones> Cannot find kernel ls
[13:59] <RurouniJones> Itis asking for a kernel, not sure why. I am rebuilding the USB using unetbootin instead of the kubuntu one
[13:59] <RurouniJones> if tht fails I go for the alternate cd
[14:02] <jussi> RurouniJones: it sounds like you have a corrupted image.
[14:02] <RurouniJones> I am downloading the alternate CD. See if that works
[14:03] <RurouniJones> The ISO MD5s matched
[14:03] <rork> RurouniJones: do you get into grub?
[14:03] <RurouniJones> Nope
[14:04] <RurouniJones> I will see what happens with the alternate and if that buggers up, will be back
[14:04] <rork> ok
[14:08] <ChrisBuchholz> Is it possible to create trackpad/touchpad gesture KDE?
[14:55] <wilhart> what's a good messenger for kubuntu
[14:55] <wilhart> it have to have facebook and msn
[15:00] <BluesKaj> wilhart, amsn, dunno if it does facebook tho ...whynot just use a browser for that
[15:01] <alvin> Kopete will do both
[15:01] <wilhart> BluesKaj, naah i think pidgin is good enough
[15:01] <wilhart> AlexZion, kopete doesnt have facebook
[15:02] <alvin> Yes, it does. Facebook chat = XMPP (=jabber)
[15:02] <wilhart> AlexZion, oH?!
[15:02] <AlexZion> what's wilhart ?
[15:02] <wilhart> alvin that's googletalk not facebook
[15:02] <BluesKaj> bah , what a convoluted way to go to a site ...browsers ftw :)
[15:03] <alvin> wilhart: No, facebook too
[15:03] <wilhart> oh
[15:03] <alvin> http://www.facebook.com/sitetour/chat.php, choose 'other'
[15:05] <wilhart> alvin jabber hmm
[15:05] <wilhart> alvin doesnt connect
[15:08] <wilhart> alvin, it doesnt connect to jabber
[15:11] <wilhart> alvin resgister new account?
[15:14] <wilhart> alvin Unable to create an account on the server. The Jabber ID is probably already in use.
[15:18] <wilhart> someone help with this kopete
[15:37] <Vivius> Hey everyone
[15:38] <Vivius> wondering if someone could help me, I've downloaded things like Blender3D and xVST, and I can drag the exec to the taskbar for quick loading, but I can't change the icons from the grey cog to identify them like usual programs, any way of doing that?
[15:39] <Peace-> wait wait
[15:39] <Peace-> reading again
[15:39] <Peace-> Vivius: right button doesn't work ?
[15:40] <Vivius> I can go into the options, but changing of the icon isn't allowed
[15:40] <Peace-> mm i guess i understood
[15:40] <Peace-> ok let's go to create a laucher by yourserlf
[15:40] <Vivius> ok...
[15:41] <Vivius> hows is that done exactly?
[15:41] <Peace-> Vivius: just go on dolphin, or in the desktop if it's in folder view mode , i guess it's not so open dolphin
[15:41] <Peace-> right buttoon
[15:42] <Peace-> create
[15:42] <Peace-> link to application
[15:42] <Peace-> and ... so on
[15:42] <Vivius> so find the exec i want to add like blender, and right click it in dolphin?
[15:44] <Peace-> open dolphin where you want
[15:44] <Peace-> create
[15:44] <Peace-> link to application
[15:44] <Peace-> find where the application is ...
[15:44] <Peace-> put your icon
[15:44] <Peace-> drag and drop where youe want yoour launcher
[15:45] <Vivius> thanks Peace got it now, no icon for xVST but will find one :D
[15:46] <Vivius> really don't want to go back to Windows
[15:46] <Vivius> been workin hard to get everything working in Kubuntu, going well so far
[15:46] <Vivius> Finally got torrents working full speed, first time ever
[15:46]  * Peace- has finished the script to create automatically  kdenlive project for video
[15:46]  * Peace- start to integrate it into dolphin
[15:47] <dmatt> Vivius: if you want to add shortcut to application, just go to menu, find the application, press left mouse button on any application and choose add to panel
[15:47] <Peace-> dmatt: that want let you change the icon
[15:47] <Vivius> thanks dmatt, but these are programs that arn't in the menu, things I've downloaded
[15:48] <Vivius> Where is the Menu editor btw? I saw it a while back and I can't find it now...
[15:48] <Peace-> Vivius: right button in kde icon
[15:48] <Peace-> menu editor
[15:48] <Peace-> ...
[15:48] <Vivius> lol
[15:49] <Vivius> so simple when you know how :D
[15:49] <Vivius> thanks
[15:49] <xywonix> зжбс..
[15:50] <dmatt> Vivius: how do you download and install programs?
[15:50] <Peace-> blender can be downloand without installation dmatt
[15:50] <dmatt> if you install from repositories, everything should be in menu
[15:50] <Vivius> Blender 2.54 beta isn't in the repos
[15:51] <Peace-> it's an application ready to go
[15:51] <Vivius> only 2.49
[15:51] <Peace-> :)
[15:51]  * Peace- here fan of kdenlive blender that knows
[15:51] <dmatt> Peace-: I know, but that is not preferred way for beginners
[15:51] <Vivius> I'm not exactly a beginner, know a little bit, but first time using KDE4
[15:51] <Vivius> which is freakin awesome btw
[15:51] <Vivius> :D
[15:51] <Peace-> dmatt: well it seems it's not a noob it seems a gnome guys that has switched
[15:52] <Peace-> xD
[15:52] <dmatt> Vivius: sorry then ...
[15:52] <Peace-> like i imaged
[15:52] <Vivius> dmatt: don't be worry, you were just tryin to help, better than ignoring my questions :)
[15:52] <Vivius> *sorry
[15:52] <Peace-> :P
[15:54] <Vivius> I have to turn off the desktop effects for graphics work :(
[15:54] <Vivius> boo
[15:54] <Vivius> swish swish
[15:55] <Vivius> only thing I haven't got working yet is my webcamera, QuickCam Messenger
[15:55] <Vivius> I'm not too fussed on it though, will give it a go sometime
[15:55] <Peace-> Vivius: sudo apt-get install kamoso
[15:55] <Vivius> whats that Peace?
[15:55] <Peace-> webcam
[15:55] <Peace-> give it a try
[15:55] <Vivius> it installs my cam for me?
[15:55] <Peace-> Vivius: try :)
[15:56] <Peace-> Vivius: sudo apt-get install kamoso && kamoso
[15:56] <Peace-> xD
[15:56] <Vivius> ok well it isn't plugged in atm, can i just plug it in now and see if it works, or does it need to be plugged in before start up?
[15:56] <xywonix> понимающие меня есть ?
[15:56] <Peace-> Vivius: try :)))
[15:56] <Vivius> ha
[15:56] <Vivius> rightio
[15:56] <Vivius> if this crashes everythin i'll kill ye
[15:56] <Vivius> ;)
[15:56] <Peace-> xD
[15:56] <Peace-> boom
[15:56] <Peace-> LOL
[15:57]  * Vivius has dropped off due to system crash attributed to Peaceful webcam programs :D
[15:58] <dmatt> Vivius: you can check your camera directly in kopete
[15:58] <Peace-> +1 dmatt
[15:58] <Vivius> thanks dmatt
[15:59] <Peace-> kopete settings webcam
[15:59] <Vivius> hahahahahaha
[15:59] <Vivius> wtf
[15:59] <Vivius> the cam is working
[15:59] <Vivius> :D:D:D
[15:59] <Peace-> Vivius: tell me you was a ubuntu guys?
[15:59] <Vivius> last time i tried gettin this cam to work in ubuntu 8 or something it wrecked my head
[16:00] <Vivius> KDE seems way more advanced than Gnome why does anyone use gnome i dunno
[16:00] <Vivius> guess its simplier layout if your focusing on work
[16:00] <Vivius> with all the extras in KDE i don't see much slow down, if anything it does more faster.
[16:01] <Vivius> ok one question in kopete if my cam works does that mean I can cam2cam with my GF? thats the only reason i have windows on my laptop anymore
[16:01] <Vivius> would love KDE on it :D
[16:02] <Vivius> TRY IT right peace
[16:02] <Vivius> lol
[16:03] <Vivius> wow i'm getting a lot more fixed using this chat thing than the forums :)
[16:04] <dmatt> Vivius: I do not know if there is currently any protocol supported in Kopete which uses video as well (jabber is in works), but you can use skype
[16:04] <Vivius> wonder if the mic on the cam works in skype hmm
[16:04] <Vivius> i'll give ita  shot
[16:04] <Vivius> thanks dmatt
[16:04] <Vivius> me and the GF use Skype anyway
[16:04] <Vivius> awesome
[16:04] <dmatt> just enable partner repositories and install skype from there
[16:05] <Vivius> have already downloaded skype from their website
[16:05] <dmatt> if you haven't done already
[16:05] <dmatt> I would go for repository version, it is tested and safer
[16:06] <Vivius> ok...partner repos...
[16:07] <Vivius> how do i enable partner repos dmatt?
[16:07] <Peace-> kpackagekit
[16:07] <Vivius> yup i'm there
[16:07] <Peace-> then ..
[16:07] <Vivius> don't see it in the list
[16:07] <Peace-> :)
[16:07] <Peace-> settings
[16:07] <Vivius> there...
[16:08] <Peace-> edit
[16:08] <Vivius> ahhh ok
[16:08] <Peace-> other software
[16:08] <Vivius> got it thanks peace
[16:09] <Peace-> Vivius: but was you a gnome guy?
[16:09] <Peace-> right?
[16:09] <Vivius> ah I've dabbled in linux on and off for years, only used ubuntu for like 2 years, doesn't know I know much about using linux tho lol :)
[16:09] <Vivius> but with all these new versions the last few years i thought I'd give it a go see if it would work better for me and get away from windows
[16:10] <Vivius> which is going well so far
[16:10] <Vivius> I've used OpenSUSE, Ubuntu many versions, Kubuntu a few times but not for ages
[16:10] <Vivius> etc
[16:11] <Vivius> anyone recommend any good books that teach you the core basics of linux and is applicable to Kubuntu?
[16:13] <Peace-> Vivius: mm my blog xD it's a bit complicated
[16:13] <Peace-> and written bad
[16:13] <Peace-> xD
[16:13] <Peace-> i hvae no time
[16:14] <Peace-> http://nowardev.wordpress.com/
[16:14] <Vivius> thanks Peace
[16:14] <Vivius> ok heres my last, quite vain question
[16:14] <Vivius> when I first installed Kubuntu
[16:14] <Peace-> Vivius: but... i guess
[16:14] <Vivius> the font was really smooth and Mac OSX lookin was sweet
[16:14] <Vivius> but now
[16:14] <Peace-> wiki it's the best
[16:14] <Vivius> it seems the same font
[16:14] <Vivius> but thinner and not as smooth
[16:14] <FloodBotK2> Vivius: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:14] <Peace-> !wiki
[16:14] <Vivius> any ideas what happened?
[16:15] <Peace-> Vivius: keep in mind wann reset your user?
[16:15] <Peace-> Vivius: rename $HOME/.kde
[16:15] <Peace-> upgrading kde you get problem ?
[16:15] <Peace->  rename $HOME/.kde
[16:15] <Peace-> xD
[16:16] <Vivius> I don't know exactly what you mean Peace by that, to solve the font thing?
[16:16] <Peace-> it could
[16:16] <Peace-> if not ?
[16:16] <Vivius> it wasn't from an upgrade, I don't know why it happened, I've instaled a fresh KDE4, but after a few days the font just went funny, but I can tell its the same font.
[16:16] <Peace-> rename back that folder
[16:17] <Peace-> Vivius: where are you from?
[16:17] <Vivius> What is the default font when you install Kubuntu? Mine is called Ubuntu atm
[16:17] <Vivius> I'm from Ireland, u?
[16:17] <Peace-> italy
[16:17] <Peace-> wow my english xD can be understood
[16:17] <Vivius> Nice, dya play assassins creed :D love that game
[16:18] <Vivius> what does resetting the user do Peace, it won't mess everything up will it, and do i just type what you wrote there and it'll be done?
[16:21] <Peace-> Vivius: renaming $HOME/.kde = like you have just installed the system
[16:21] <Vivius> ok i typed it and the comp is working loads, no m sgs yet
[16:21] <Vivius> fingers crossed
[16:21] <Peace-> so no customizations
[16:21] <Peace-> no passwords
[16:22] <Peace-> but hey you want get them back
[16:22] <Vivius> not even the root password? and my app links will be gone?!? :O
[16:22] <Peace-> just rename that folder
[16:22] <Peace-> Vivius: root password will be kept
[16:22] <Peace-> Vivius: ya for liks
[16:22] <Peace-> links
[16:23] <Vivius> WHAT HAVE YOU MADE ME DO
[16:23] <Vivius> hehe
[16:23] <Peace-> rename back...
[16:23] <Peace-> :)
[16:23] <Vivius> well at least I know a new command now if the crap hits the fan, linux always feels to me like an egg you have to be careful with in case you drop lol
[16:23] <Vivius> but I know thats just down to my lack of knowledge :)
[16:24] <Vivius> it wont remove all the programs i've installed will it
[16:26] <dmatt> Vivius: this only removes settings for KDE, if KDE is started without settings files, it creates new with defaults ... so removing them means user workspace customisations reser
[16:26] <dmatt> *reset
[16:27] <Vivius> right ok thanks dmatt
[16:27] <Vivius> sure is takin a while
[16:28] <dmatt> Vivius: I suggest you explore System Setting, where under pplication Look (or something similar, I have localised version) you find settings for fonts and dithering...
[16:29] <Vivius> k thanks :D
[16:29] <dmatt> Vivius: there is lot of other options to customise every aspect of your KDE system
[16:31] <dmatt> Vivius: just one more tip: use alt-f2 to quickly start any application just typing few starting characters from the name... you will forget about menu very soon :)
[16:33] <Vivius> ooo nice, thanks dmatt!
[16:33] <Vivius> i've tried changing fonts manually there and messing with settings
[16:33] <Vivius> it just doesn't look as smooth as before
[16:33] <Vivius> but i know its the same damn font
[16:34] <Vivius> it might have happened when i installed something gnome related a while back, but i can't remember now...
[16:34] <wilhart> tnx got jabber working
[16:34] <dmatt> Vivius: try to play with dithering options
[16:35] <Vivius> where is dithering options?
[16:36] <dmatt> just under the font selection
[16:36] <dmatt> maybe it is not dithering, but hinting
[16:37] <dmatt> System Settings/Application Look/Fonts
[16:38] <Vivius> thanks dmatt, already checked that, it isn't a big issue, but I swear the fonts looked so perfect and smooth when i first loaded it, just a bit annoying, nothing major :)
[16:39] <dmatt> try to boot from livecd and compare
[16:40] <Vivius> good idea!
[16:40] <Vivius> how long does this rename thing take, i typed it in, and nothing has happened in konsole, or went back to command line entry
[16:42] <dmatt> it should take few seconds only, but i never tried it on live system
[16:42] <Vivius> ok gonan drop off here and reboot and see what happens, hope i'm still here when i get back :D
[16:42] <dmatt> if you see prompt then it's finished already
[16:42] <Vivius> thanks for the help dmatt and Peace-
[16:42] <dmatt> np
[16:47] <wilhart> i really want this procector not to be inclucede in my main display alt-tab!!!!
[16:47] <wilhart> should i put it on top or hmm ?
[16:48] <wilhart> stick!?
[16:50] <wilhart> hmmmmmmmm
[16:56] <geekosopher> came to know of kde 4.5.3 being released today, anyone has any idea if it will be backported to maverick?
[16:56] <geekosopher> or may be kubuntu-ppa
[16:57] <Peace-> geekosopher: some days after
[16:57] <Peace-> like 2 o 1 days
[16:57] <Peace-> i guess
[16:58] <geekosopher> on kubuntu-ppa?
[17:14] <wilhart> geekosopher, did you get it?
[17:16] <wilhart> did you find the kde 4.5.3 repos
[17:16] <dan__> hey guys. i've stumbled upon a problem. i run compiz fusion through emerald. although compiz fusion icon starts at startup(at the same time with KDE) i can't get it to run. i need to run "compiz --replace" for it to be ok. any ideas how i can make this command work at startup aswell?
[17:17] <wilhart> dan use kde effects?
[17:18] <dan__> well that's the point :) KDE starts with kde effects. but i want it to start directly with the compiz effects
[17:19] <wilhart> dan__, just remove that compiz crap
[17:19] <wilhart> ?
[17:19] <wilhart> kde 4.5.3 kubuntu 10.10 ppa
[17:19] <wilhart> i cant find that in google
[17:19] <dan__> no thanks :) i actually like it
[17:20] <dmatt> wilhart: if you have kubuntu ppa, you will get it automatically when it's ready, i believe
[17:21] <dmatt> that's how it worked in past
[17:28] <wilhart> dmatt, hmm
[17:28] <wilhart> dmatt, dunno i upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10
[17:28] <wilhart> dmatt, could you help me installing that
[17:29] <wilhart> dmatt, u have that latest version ?
[17:29] <dmatt> wilhart: do you have 4.5.2?
[17:29] <wilhart> dmatt, (KDE 4.5.1)
[17:30] <dmatt> wilhart: latest as of now is 4.5.2, 4.5.3 expected in short time (few days)
[17:31] <wilhart> dmatt, ok
[17:31] <wilhart> i'll wait
[17:31] <wilhart> dmatt, but why doesnt this have 4.5.2 ?
[17:32] <dmatt> wilhart: open kpackagekit, choose Settings, then Edit origins
[17:32] <dmatt> becasu you do not use ppa for 4.5.x updates
[17:32] <wilhart> dmatt, that first one ? backports?
[17:32] <wilhart> maverick
[17:33] <wilhart> dmatt what is medibuntu and psyke ?
[17:33] <dmatt> no, wait till i find it
[17:34] <wilhart> dmatt, what are those others that is not marked X
[17:34] <wilhart> dmatt, i think it's backports
[17:34] <dmatt> you should not change any of those
[17:34] <dmatt> it is different
[17:34] <wilhart> hmm
[17:35] <wilhart> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu maverick main
[17:35] <wilhart> this is it
[17:36] <wilhart> dmatt, do i checkbox this one and? upgrade?
[17:36] <dmatt> second tab "other software" / Add and you add following line:
[17:36] <dmatt> ppa:kubuntu-ppa
[17:36] <wilhart> dmatt, ?
[17:37] <dmatt> it is written also in http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.5.2
[17:37] <Pici> Which is i the channel topic.
[17:38] <dmatt> Pici: even better... so it is official :)
[17:39] <wilhart> dmatt, hmm
[17:42] <geekosopher> wilhart: sorry i was away, and nope I was asking where would I find them
[17:46] <wilhart> mmmmmmm
[18:01] <wilhart> meh
[18:01] <wilhart> geekosopher, did you find it? :D
[18:02] <wilhart> geekosopher, got 10.10 ?
[18:08] <dcndrew> hi
[18:10] <dcndrew> I have a question, have anyone met this before? I don't know what installed on Kubuntu 10.10 what makes this, but if I start Kopete or Konversation, the Kontact starts automatically.
[18:12] <dcndrew> Google said nothing.
[18:17] <Peace-> dcndrew: nice xD
[18:18] <dcndrew> Thanx, man. :D
[18:19] <dcndrew> Oh. I found something about Kolab, but there is no IMAP stuff in Kopete....
[18:19] <leandrodeassis> when kde 4.5.3 will be in ppa?
[18:20] <Peace-> leandrodeassis:  1-3 days
[18:21] <wilhart> when id this kde 4.5.3 out ?
[18:24] <leandrodeassis> Peace-: thanks
[18:26] <wilhart> how do i install new kde now
[18:29] <Mitschel> wilhart: what "new kde" do you mean and which release do you use? 10.04 or 10.10?
[18:31] <wilhart> Mitschel, 10.10
[18:32] <Mitschel> ok
[18:33] <Mitschel> do you mean the 4.5.3 release? if so, first of all you have to wait till the version is packaged for kubuntu
[18:34] <Matisse> hi
[18:34] <Matisse> is there a way to force stereo output to also send data to the subwoofer?
[18:36] <Mitschel> and once it is packaged just put this "ppa:kubuntu-ppa" into your repository list https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[18:38] <Matisse> like mono is forced to stereo
[18:46] <wilhart> Mitschel, ehmm...
[18:46] <wilhart> Mitschel, reposity list ?
[18:48] <Mitschel> wilhart: did you read that link i posted? its the "other software" window
[18:48] <wilhart> Mitschel, about
[18:50] <Mitschel> wilhart: this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[18:51] <wilhart> Mitschel, hmm
[18:51] <wilhart> MichealH, in couple days this upgrades 4.5.3 ?
[18:52] <Mitschel> yes as soon as the packaging guys did thier magic, right now theres no easy way to get the 4.5.3 update. you have to wait
[18:52] <wilhart> Mitschel, my software program doesnt have those
[18:53] <delac> hey! I'd like to decorate my kde a bit. whitch packages contain more desktop themes (e.g. alternative styles for panel, popups and such)? i already have plenty of window borders and icons and stuff.
[18:53] <wilhart> MichealH, if i put this in sources.list:
[18:53] <wilhart> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu maverick main
[18:54] <Mitschel> wilhart: yeah just saw that that page is out dated
[18:54] <wilhart> MichealH, yep ,some new page plz :D
[18:55] <Mitschel> wilhart: just press alt+f2m, enter kpackagekit, click on settings and then on edit origins
[18:55] <Mitschel> now enter "ppa:kubuntu-ppa" and you are done
[18:58] <wilhart> Mitschel, ok done..
[18:58] <wilhart> Mitschel, where do i see that source in etc/apt
[18:59] <wilhart> MichealH, that's its really tehre
[18:59] <Pici> wilhart: It'll get dropped into /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[19:00] <Matisse> solved my problem by changing center and subwoofer cable
[19:01] <wilhart> Pici, look at this:
[19:01] <wilhart> Pici, http://pastebin.ca/1980901
[19:02] <wilhart> Pici, something wrong? why i got losta those there
[19:03] <Peace-> !offtopic | Peace-
[19:04] <Pici> wilhart: Thats fine.
[19:04] <wilhart> Pici, ok:D
[19:04] <wilhart> Pici, upgrade kubuntu now
[19:04] <Pici> ITs because you added things in the past using either that same tool or add-apt-repository.
[19:04] <wilhart> Pici, puts 4.5.2 ?
[19:04] <Pici> wilhart: What?
[19:04] <wilhart> Pici, dist-upgrade now, it' should put kde 4.5.2 ?
[19:04] <Pici> wilhart: If its available.
[19:05] <wilhart> Pici, so, should i wait on 4.5.3 ? or now install 4.5.2 ?
[19:06] <Pici> wilhart: If you have limited download bandwidth, wait for 4.5.3, otherwise it won't hurt to get 4.5.2
[19:06] <wilhart> Pici, i have 10m
[19:06] <WhitePelican> how do I get 4.5.2? I'm using lucid
[19:06] <wilhart> Pici, anything nice on 4.5.2 ?
[19:06] <Pici> wilhart: I specifically mean a quota.
[19:06] <wilhart> Pici, yepyep
[19:06] <Pici> wilhart: I don't know.  I don't use KDE myself.
[19:07] <WhitePelican> can I get 4.5.2 without upgrading to maverick?
[19:07] <WhitePelican> my sound is broken on MAverick
[19:08] <wilhart> Pici, why ? gnome ??
[19:08] <Pici> wilhart: Yes.  But I can still help people with desktop agnostic problems.
[19:09] <wilhart> Pici, ok
[19:09] <wilhart> Pici, got any idea why display 2 is in display 1 alt-tab?
[19:12] <WhitePelican> is there anyone here who can answer my question?
[19:12] <Pici> wilhart: Sorry, I don't think I can help with that.
[19:13] <Mitschel> WhitePelican: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.5.2 obviously there is no official support for 4.5.2 in 10.04
[19:13] <Mitschel> you either have to compile it yourself or find e non-official repo where kde 4.5.2 is packaged WhitePelican
[19:14] <WhitePelican> s'ok my system is broken enough :)
[19:14] <WhitePelican> thanks for your help tough
[19:15] <WhitePelican> though*
[19:15] <WhitePelican> sorry, I can't type to save my life
[19:23] <wilhart> Pici, ok
[19:26] <wilhart> Platform Version 4.5.2 (KDE 4.5.2)
[19:26] <wilhart> :D
[19:27] <wilhart> Pici, there?
[19:27] <Pici> wilhart: Yes?
[19:27] <wilhart> Pici, my gdm doenst show anyt login/password just desktop backgroun wallpaper
[19:28] <wilhart> Pici, and my kdm has login password but keyboard not working!!
[19:28] <wilhart> Pici, how do i get keyboard working in kdm ?
[19:28] <wilhart> Pici, something in xorg.conf ?
[19:29] <wilhart> Pici, #    Driver         "kbd"
[19:29] <wilhart> Pici, should i remove that # ??
[19:32] <wilhart> Pici, it didint work either
[19:33] <Pici> wilhart: I'm sorry, I need to deal with an issue here at work, perhaps someone else can help you.  Or you can ask in #ubuntu for problems with gdm.
[19:33] <wilhart> Pici, problem with kdm
[19:35] <wilhart> anyone? help?? keyboard doesnt work in kdm
[19:38] <Mitschel> sorry wilhart no idea
[19:40] <moetunes> wilhart:  check the X log
[19:45] <delac> if I do "plasma-desktop -graphicssystem raster", plasma popups (e.g. systrays hidden icons and Kickoff) don't show any content (the popup opens but only as transparent background). any thoughts?
[19:47] <chiiiiiz> hello
[19:47] <chiiiiiz> is there a possibility to have an overview of photos in the "Folder view" plasmoid instead of an icon?
[19:56] <reallove> hello. I have a weird issue on my lenovo laptop running Kubuntu 10.10. After upgrading it from 10.04, I only have sound in speakers, and not when I plug in the headphones. Any ideas where to look ? thanks!
[20:01] <moetunes> reallove:  in konsole   alsamixer   and turn the headphones up maybe
[20:08] <reallove> moetunes: huh, looks like I'm not the only one : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/637873
[20:11] <jmichaelx> reallove: what audio adapter is used in your laptop?
[20:11] <reallove> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[20:12] <reallove> if this is what you ask, jmichaelx
[20:12] <jmichaelx> reallove: yes.... i have seen in the forums that other people are experiencing the same problem with that adapter
[20:13] <reallove> although, I haven't tried the fix described in that bug report
[20:13] <reallove> rebooting now, let's see if it helps me
[20:13] <reallove> brb
[20:13] <jmichaelx> reallove: i have rev 02 and have also been having problems, but a different one than yours
[20:15] <wilhart> we need more effects!
[20:17] <reallove> jmichaelx: wow. looks like I'm lucky. The fix from that bug report works for me too
[20:20] <jmichaelx> reallove: good deal.... did you just have to add an option to your alsa-base.conf?
[20:20] <reallove> jmichaelx: correct
[20:21] <reallove> now time to fix the next issue that appeared after upgrading to 10.10... my computer does not go to sleep when I close the lid
[20:21] <jmichaelx> reallove: nothing frustrates me more with linux than the constant one step forward, one step backward dance....
[20:22] <reallove> jmichaelx: you bet. although, when I upgraded to 10.04 nothing bad happened, only now. hrrrr
[20:23] <jmichaelx> reallove: i have had major issues with 10.10... had to revert back to 10.04 on one laptop due to regressions with mobile intel video performance in 10.10
[20:23] <reallove> oh crap, really?
[20:24] <reallove> I just discovered when I got to work that I had a 3rd issue with the upgrade: I am connecting to an external monitor through the docking station, and now the resolution and the monitor management sucks badly
[20:25] <jmichaelx> reallove: what video adapter?
[20:25] <reallove> I have to admit though that the upgrade brought a new network manager waaaay better than the previous
[20:25] <reallove> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[20:27] <jmichaelx> reallove: i am thinking that you may be able to get things straightened out with that card... not sure though
[20:27] <reallove> but the most annoying thing is that 'sleep' not working when closing lid.
[20:27] <reallove> this frustrates me more
[20:27] <jmichaelx> reallove: mobile intel sucks royally in maverick
[20:28] <reallove> heh
[20:30] <reallove> jmichaelx: omg, again, I am no the only one having the suspend-to-ram problem
[20:30] <reallove> damn this upgrade
[20:33] <jmichaelx> reallove: join the croud of folks who remain very unimpressed with maverick
[20:33] <jmichaelx> crowd*
[20:33] <jmichaelx> unimpressed is very much an understatement, in my case
[20:37] <dmatt> jmichaelx: i do not think it is so bad release
[20:37] <reallove> well dmatt , for me, the score of bad things vs improvements was 3:1
[20:38] <dmatt> jmichaelx: those who have problems always feel there is lot of people with problems, but it is different group each time... you might find 10.4 was big problem for some other people
[20:39] <jmichaelx> dmatt: you cannot assess merely by the fact that your harware mixed well with 10.10.... when so many of the most common laptop GPUs on the market are doing so badly, it is a bad thing... even if you are blessed with having something that worls better
[20:40] <dmatt> jmichaelx: but was it better any previous release? this time nvidia, intel before....
[20:44] <jmichaelx> dmatt: well, intel GPUs had done well the last several releases, although there was one (edgy?) that had intel problems
[20:47] <dmatt> jmichaelx: it was jaunty
[20:47] <jmichaelx> dmatt: ok, that sounds more like it
[20:48] <jmichaelx> dmatt: i am not calling maverick a train wreck, but there are in my opinion, some very serious flaws that go beyond the norm
[20:48] <reallove> good, the suspend-to-RAM is fixed by applying the acpitool -s trick
[20:49] <jmichaelx> reallove: congrats
[20:49] <reallove> the last issue remains with connecting the external monitor, which I suspect to be the more difficult
[20:49] <reallove> jmichaelx: heh thanks, google is my best friend :)
[20:51] <jmichaelx> dmatt: edgy was going a bit too far back in time, lol
[20:51] <dmatt> jmichaelx: no matter what changes in stack, there is allways somebody in pain
[20:52] <delac> how can I adjust menu and popup transparency while using compiz?
[20:52] <jmichaelx> dmatt: to be sure.... which is the reason linux is never going to "rule the desktop"
[20:55] <dmatt> jmichaelx: don't be so negative :)
[20:56] <jmichaelx> dmatt: i think what i said was more a result of realism than anything. also, i do not think i would like what would have to happen to linux for it to get to the point that it *could* rule the desktop
[21:02] <dmatt> jmichaelx: I would survive linux rule ... (you could allways fork if things go wrong)
[21:03] <jmichaelx> dmatt: it won't happen.... not on the desktop. in order for that to happen, linux distros would have to become much more unifrom... we do not want to go there.....
[21:04] <jmichaelx> dmatt: the server room is another case entirely.... linux is slowly taking that realm over. the problem with the desktop is that desktop linux users will always have to be a bit more tech savvy that your average PC user
[21:04] <delac> am I asking the right question? what determines the level of opacity on menus and popups? because if I change from kwin to compiz, the level of opacity of the menus and popups is changed drastically
[21:05] <delac> how can I adjust those levels?
[21:07] <dmatt> jmichaelx: nevermind I have not any longing for linux domination, till it works for me ... and is easier to support on my family PC's :D
[21:08] <jmichaelx> dmatt: i totally agree..... it is VERY much what i prefer, both at work and at home
[22:34] <microcluster> how is possible control fan in notebook hp?
[22:43] <JeroenDeDauw> Does Kubuntu 10.10 come with some tool to scan documents?
[22:44] <delac> microcluster: most likely there is no way to control the fans. that is true for allmost all laptops. but you can check for yourself: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42737
[22:47] <microcluster> delac: thanks,i'm just reading this page and try it
[22:56] <microcluster> delac: why isn't possible control fan on laptop?
[23:30]  * KimLaRoux wishes dolphin could read id3 tags.
[23:34] <Dark_Link> hmm why is the gma 950 graphix card seam to be not fully used
[23:34] <Dark_Link> its running flash and games worse than windows