[00:51] <hallo> is there ok installing lucid packages on maverik?
[00:52] <stlsaint> sure
[00:52] <stlsaint> but i wouldnt suggest it on a production system
[00:52] <stlsaint> try your specific package in a vm first to ensure no compatibility issues
[00:55] <hallo> when i use --listpkg there is a Ubuntu/source...what is that?
[01:01] <stlsaint> source is where you are getting your packages/updates from
[01:01] <stlsaint> your server you are pulling from
[01:02] <hallo> the idea is that i'm trying to install ati drivers form the .run installer from ati.com
[01:03] <hallo> must use sudo sh ati_driver.run --buildpkg but there is no support for ubuntu/maverik
[01:04] <stlsaint> hrm, is this your main system? when dealing with video drivers i wouldnt try this on main machine
[01:05] <hallo> yes...it's my main machine
[01:06] <stlsaint> hrm, i would not suggest using a unsupported driver on your system
[01:07] <hallo> i know...but there are no proprietary drivers for my card
[01:08] <stlsaint> :(
[01:08] <Timo_> hallo: did you try the one I told u?
[01:08] <Timo_> because that command -should- work
[01:08] <Timo_> sec. I'm on a ubuntu system now
[01:08] <Timo_> with an ati card
[01:08] <stlsaint> Timo_: that driver is not supported
[01:08] <Timo_> will check what I have
[01:11] <hallo> Timo_: i tried that command and it said there is no package with that name and it was replaced by "fglrx" package
[01:11] <Timo_> hallo: try: sudo apt-get install fglrx
[01:11] <Timo_> yes
[01:12] <Timo_> try the fglrx
[01:12] <Timo_> the one I gave you must've been an old command which is replaced by fglrx
[01:13] <hallo> Timo_: fglrx no longer supports my driver
[01:13] <hallo> Timo_: fglrx no longer supports my card
[01:15] <Timo_> mmm
[01:15] <Timo_> well I don't know then, sorry!
[01:15] <hallo> Timo_: no problem :) thaks anyway
[01:16] <Timo_> you may want to ask in a ubuntu channel
[01:16] <Timo_> as lubuntu repositries are the same as ubuntu's anyways
[01:16] <Timo_> so it -should- work the same
[01:18] <phillw> hallo: there were some cards dropped with 10.10, I've seen one other in here who I've told to use 10.04 instead.
[01:19] <phillw> hallo: it was not a lubuntu decision, it's the new kernel for 10.10.
[01:19] <Timo_> well lads, I'm going to sleep!
[01:19] <Timo_> c u tomorrow!
[01:19] <Timo_> bye
[01:28] <hallo> is there a program similar to daemon tools on windows?
[01:31]  * stlsaint knows little about various windows programs :D
[01:32] <hallo> :))
[01:32] <hallo> something to mount iso files
[01:32] <stlsaint> OOHHHHH
[01:32] <stlsaint> heck yea man
[01:32] <stlsaint> PowerISO
[01:32] <stlsaint> is my favorite
[01:33] <stlsaint> has virtual drives to directly mount iso's as "cd's"
[01:34] <hallo> thanks
[01:34] <szczur> cdemu is open source
[01:35] <szczur> and also creates virtual cd reader
[01:35] <szczur> http://cdemu.sourceforge.net/
[01:36] <stlsaint> szczur: nice
[01:36] <stlsaint> i will have to look into that
[01:37] <szczur> and poweriso for linux can only extract the image (at least this what wiki says about that) :)
[01:38] <hallo> i found Furius ISO Mount Tool under Ubuntu Software Center
[01:40] <phillw> hallo: grub2 can mount iso images (sorry, been in conversation)
[01:41] <szczur> phillw, not when you're running the system :P (but it can boot from them)
[01:41] <szczur> As far as i know
[01:42] <szczur> i like cdemu because it acts as actual cd drive
[01:43] <szczur> it's very useful when you're installing program in Wine or trying to play a game using iso image :)
[01:44] <szczur> i gues furious iso mount just do the same thing as mount -o loop <iso image> <mount point>
[01:44] <phillw> szczur: sorry, I came in late on the coversation.
[01:44] <szczur> but i may be wrong
[01:44] <stlsaint> szczur: oh i thought the op was posting on using it on windows
[01:45] <stlsaint> hallo: if your on linux than go with master iso in repos
[01:45] <stlsaint> master iso package
[01:56] <hallo> thanks for help guys...i'll go get some sleep...c'ya later :)
[01:59] <stlsaint> l8er
[02:05] <phillw> to follow those guidelines.
[03:30] <aaron__> anyone have a tip what to look for as to why my laptop optical drive might not be recognized by Lubuntu, when it works fine in other OS's, including other Ubuntu's?
[03:48] <dadaist> hi i install lubuntu but i cant see windows opening
[03:48] <dadaist> pls help
[03:49] <dadaist> ???
[03:49] <dadaist> ???
[03:51] <dadaist> hey????
[05:15] <yahyai-0> how to make plymouth (text),, (or just edit the name of "lubuntu 10.10")???
[05:36] <bioterror> yahyai-0, not so sure you want to do that
[05:39] <yahyai-0> i hv customize lubuntu for a university  and the only thing that not customizable is plymouth text ,, do you know how to do it
[05:40] <bioterror> sad157@dopethrone:~$ plymouth --help|more
[05:40] <bioterror>   --hide-splash                  Hide splash screen
[05:41] <yahyai-0> i will try it
[05:41] <hyperair> you could grab the sources and see how they do it
[05:41] <hyperair> and possibly edit it
[05:42] <bioterror> yeah, google :D
[05:43] <yahyai-0> i hv got d src,, but there is know name for lubuntu to edit it ,, you got me??
[05:44] <hyperair> it's probably an image
[05:44] <bioterror> yes
[05:45] <hyperair> so you need to get some tool that is used to edit plymouth themes
[05:45] <hyperair> and edit it
[05:45] <bioterror> sad157@dopethrone:/lib/plymouth/themes$ ls
[05:45] <bioterror> default.plymouth  details  lubuntu-logo  text.plymouth  ubuntu-text
[05:45] <yahyai-0> no it isn't image
[05:45] <bioterror> sad157@dopethrone:/lib/plymouth/themes$ ls lubuntu-logo/
[05:45] <bioterror> lubuntu-logo.plymouth  lubuntu-logo.script  progress_dot_off.png
[05:45] <bioterror> lubuntu_logo.png       password_field.png   progress_dot_on.png
[05:46] <bioterror> last time I checked, png was Portable Network Graphics -file
[05:47] <yahyai-0> ubuntu-text.so it has text "ubuntu 10.10" compiled inside u can check by # strings ubuntu-text.so
[08:33] <dipilibupap> hello all
[08:33] <dipilibupap> for those of you who remeber me and my wifi problem
[08:33] <dipilibupap> i think i found a solution which apparently worked for other users with the same problem
[08:33] <dipilibupap> the solution is to discard network manager and install wicd
[08:34] <dipilibupap> the thing is i do not know how to do that..
[08:36] <dipilibupap> ?
[08:36] <dipilibupap> hi bioterror are you there?
[08:39] <dipilibupap> ???
[08:44] <JoeMaverickSett> sudo apt-get install wicd
[08:45] <JoeMaverickSett> dipilibupap: ^ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WICD
[08:45] <dipilibupap> thank you..  do you guys think it could help?
[08:46] <dipilibupap> apparently im not the only one with this problem..
[08:46] <dipilibupap> and i did long research yesterday on my chipset
[08:48] <hyperair> my last experience with wicd was horrendous
[08:48] <hyperair> it didn't end well, but i can't remember exactly what happened.
[08:49] <bioterror> im at school
[08:49] <bioterror> two days of project management
[08:49] <JoeMaverickSett> bioterror: school? :)
[08:49] <bioterror> not much in here
[08:50] <JoeMaverickSett> the dude quit.
[08:50] <bioterror> yeah, im doing school beside my work
[08:50] <JoeMaverickSett> bioterror: cool. :D
[08:50] <bioterror> but if someone asks, you know :D
[08:50]  * JoeMaverickSett waves at hyperair :D
[08:51] <hyperair> hi JoeMaverickSett =)
[08:51] <JoeMaverickSett> hyperair: how are you? :)
[08:51] <bioterror> my employer pays me salary for being in schoold
[08:52] <JoeMaverickSett> bioterror: nice! ;D
[08:52] <bioterror> yeah
[08:53] <hyperair> JoeMaverickSett: really really busy
[08:54] <JoeMaverickSett> hyperair: ah, okie. carry on then. :)
[08:55] <hyperair> thanks
[12:47] <dipilibupap> hello again
[12:47] <dipilibupap> can anyone help me
[12:47] <dipilibupap> i installed wicd network manager..
[12:47] <dipilibupap> and im getting a problem at connection
[14:08] <mir1> hello! anyone know why lubuntu sometimes locks up with 100% cpu usage. I have a CPU monitor on, and I can see the whole thing go green sometimes, but for no discernible reason. there's noting in the Task Manager that shows heavy CPU usage by any program, and I've even had "top" dumping out to a file every few seconds, but there's no indication that any program is really whoring the CPU. anyone know what is going on?
[14:09] <phillw> mir1: run top via lxterminal
[14:09] <phillw> after a few seconds, pastebin the screen up.
[14:10] <phillw> !pastebin  | mir1
[14:10] <mir1> it's not doing it now...
[14:10] <mir1> but i can give you a top log of when it was
[14:11] <phillw> mir1: yeah, just grab it and pastebin it (don't forget to include the link :) )
[14:15] <mir1> hmm, it's doing it again, but this time top is showing firefox taking the cpu ay 97%
[14:16] <mir1> i don't know what it's doing but it wasn't anything very special, it could be a firefox bug then...
[14:16] <phillw> mir1: lubuntu does not firefox, it uses chromium.
[14:16] <phillw> *does not use firefox*
[14:16] <mir1> i know but my mum likes firefox :-/
[14:17] <mir1> but it seems a little on the heavy side for this pc...
[14:18] <mir1> though in general it takes a few % and sometime has an attack and goes to 97%
[14:20] <mir1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/525071/ here is the log from yesterday, it should be every ten secs, but i just noticed a gap around 2:28, which is when the problem started, so maybe top got clobbered by firefox (or whatever it is)
[14:20] <phillw> mir1: you'd have to ask on the forums about that, one of the best people and supported threads is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1193567 lovinglinux is also a really nice guy and will answer personally. Just do let him know you're running lubuntu (it should not make any difference to what he says, but the more information he has the better he can help you).
[14:22] <mir1> thanks :-)
[14:24] <phillw> mir1: 95.2%wa, seems very high
[14:25] <phillw> let me just do a bit of asking for you.
[14:46] <mir1> seems such a long IO time could be caused by a bad disk (it is pretty old). In general, when a process begins winding up the cpu usage, it is the "wa" figure that goes up, and this coincides with filling of the swapfile
[14:52] <phillw> mir1: then maybe you're going to have to get your Mum to like Chromium, it took me a while to get used to it, but it is a decent browser.
[14:53] <phillw> mir1: it will import all the FFox bookmarks, passwords and history for you if you ask it to.
[14:55] <mir1> yeah, i'm having a poke at it now
[14:55] <mir1> seems very snappy
[14:56] <mir1> i'm planning a new harddrive and a stick of ram for this computer anyway, so that may solve it
[14:56] <mir1> thanks for the help
[14:56] <mir1> :-)
[14:56] <phillw> if you have a decent internet link and not capped, the daily builds are pretty darn good :)
[14:57] <phillw> lubuntu ships the 'stable', but there is a beta and then for the adventurous daily builds :)
[14:59] <mir1> i think my mum would like the stable
[15:00] <mir1> but i'm going to switch my laptop (which is also old) over to lubuntu soon, and then we'll see :-)
[15:00] <mir1> turns out xubuntu is full of lies :-p
[15:02] <mir1> but lubuntu is great on this computer, except when something causes it seize up, and that may be fixed with the new drive
[16:33] <geogrand1> hello everyone
[16:33] <geogrand1> just installed lubuntu 10.10
[16:34] <geogrand1> Also installed rhythmbox and I can't for the life of me get it to any mp3's
[16:34] <geogrand1> get an error about bin1 something or orther
[16:35] <geogrand1> removed it and downloaded Amarok, same deal won't play any music
[16:36] <geogrand1> any takes on where i can start fixing this problem
[16:36] <geogrand1> thanks
[16:36] <bioterror> hahahaha
[16:36] <bioterror> ofcoure
[16:36] <bioterror> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[16:36] <geogrand1> bio you having some troubles also
[16:36] <bioterror> gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
[16:36] <geogrand1> already did that
[16:36] <geogrand1> no luck
[16:36] <bioterror> should be
[16:37] <bioterror> becouse those enables the mp3 playback
[16:37] <bioterror> but ofcourse, try another player
[16:37] <bioterror> like mpg321
[16:37] <bioterror> ;9
[16:37] <bioterror> and confirm if the sounds do not work
[16:37] <geogrand1> sound works on the default player
[16:38] <geogrand1> aqualung
[16:38] <geogrand1> thanks for the response
[16:39] <bioterror> well
[16:39] <bioterror> cannot help with rhtymnbox
[16:39] <bioterror> i use MOC myself
[16:39] <geogrand1> cool thanks anyway
[16:40] <geogrand1> is M0C comparable to Rhythmbox?
[16:40] <bioterror> nope, but it does what it should
[16:40] <bioterror> plays music
[16:40] <bioterror> mp3, ogg
[16:43] <geogrand1> funny Amarok plays music but not mp3's
[16:43] <geogrand1> i have installed a few codecs though
[16:49] <hyperair> you want to install xine's stuff.
[17:13] <geogrand1> are you asking me? lol
[17:49] <NativeAngels> can you do a text install of lubuntu
[17:54] <bioterror> NativeAngels, you can
[17:55] <NativeAngels> from the desktop edition ?
[17:55] <bioterror> well
[17:55] <bioterror> we have an alternative version of lubuntu 10.10
[17:55] <bioterror> which uses text installer
[17:55] <NativeAngels> ok
[17:55] <bioterror> it's targetted for the systems below 160MB of RAM
[17:56] <bioterror> becouse that ubiquoiuqwoie1yu2u3e123213 installation software requires thath much RAM
[17:56] <NativeAngels> does it have the wireless drivers tho
[17:56] <bioterror> it has all the same packages as livecd
[17:56] <NativeAngels> ok
[17:56] <NativeAngels> do you have a link
[17:57] <bioterror> yes
[17:57] <bioterror> just a moment
[17:58] <bioterror> hmmm
[17:58] <bioterror> http://phillw.net/lubuntu-10.10-alternate.iso
[17:59] <bioterror> does it work?
[17:59] <bioterror> yes
[17:59] <NativeAngels> ok
[17:59] <NativeAngels> once its installed does it had the same desktop
[18:00] <bioterror> yes
[18:00] <bioterror> it just doesnt use graphical installation
[18:42] <NativeAngels> thats better bioterror
[18:43] <bioterror> works
[18:43] <bioterror> ?
[18:58] <NativeAngels> its more happier installing
[18:58] <bioterror> :-)
[19:52] <Timo_> Hey guys, I've got a question, I want to set WeeChat as a startup application, but I don't see where I can add it.
[19:52] <Timo_> There is startup applications, but there is no option for opening in command line
[19:52] <Timo_> (I'm using Linux Mint 9)
[20:08] <bioterror> what
[20:08] <bioterror> :D
[20:08] <bioterror> it's not that simply thing
[20:09] <bioterror> becouse it's a terminal software
[20:12] <Timo_> mm
[20:12] <Timo_> ok
[20:30] <Newk> hello lubuntus! can someone tell me that when xorg.conf is being written to /etc/X11/xorg.conf lubuntu hangs during bootup (before X starts)
[20:30] <Newk> i mean "why"
[20:31] <bioterror> sumtin wrong in the conf
[20:31] <Newk> i try to get my nvidia card configured for hardware acceleration
[20:32] <Newk> ah so if its not present it fals back to some default settings
[20:33] <Newk> even during the hangup... if i delete it.. it jumps to X
[20:33] <Newk> like its retrying over and over
[20:35] <Newk> i tried configuring nvidia by "nvidia x server settings" and it writes a xorg.conf wich stops the bootup
[20:38] <Newk> in "additional drivers" i've set it to "nvidia_96" for my geForce2 400 MX but it states "This Driver is active but currently not in use"
[20:41] <bioterror> hmm
[20:41] <bioterror> oh no
[20:42] <bioterror> support for that card has been dropped off
[20:42] <bioterror> there's some conversation about that on the mailing list
[20:42] <bioterror> if I remember right
[20:42]  * bioterror summons phillw
[20:43] <phillw> Newk: you may want to try 10.04, the team is committed to support it for 5 years
[20:43] <bioterror> hahaha
[20:43] <bioterror> lurker!
[20:43] <bioterror> phillw, but that wont bring back drivers for that chipset
[20:43] <phillw> bioterror: phillw has just finished his whift
[20:43] <phillw> *shift*
[20:44] <Newk> ah.. but its strange since nvidia_96 package can be installed
[20:44] <phillw> bioterror: I'm not totally sure, but it uses a different repositry than 10.10.
[20:44] <Newk> that packege has support for that card
[20:45] <bioterror> hmmm
[20:45] <phillw> Newk: it is something that has been discussed for the older video cards along with the i586 support.
[20:47] <Newk> so even though it can be loaded.. it will not be used due to the 10.10 kernel?
[20:49] <phillw> Newk: from what i've seen, i think there are problems. we're waiting on people to be able to confirm if it is an issue.
[20:49]  * phillw looks at Newk :)
[20:49] <Newk> anyway i can help out testing the issues?
[20:50] <phillw> Newk: try 10.04 and see if that works would be a great help
[20:50] <Newk> k.. will i have to install it all over or is there a shortcut to revert back?
[20:51] <Newk> i've seen how to upgrade but can it also be used other way around?
[20:52] <phillw> you would need a clean install. don't forget that you can run it as livecd to see if it works without installing it.
[20:53] <Newk> ah ofcourse
[20:53] <Newk> i'll do that :)
[20:54] <phillw> Newk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#10.04
[20:54] <Newk> thanx for the advice.. i'll report if it works.. hope the live cd will run on these 256 mb ram :S
[20:56] <Newk> hmmm it doesnt state nvidia geforce legacyt drivers
[20:56] <phillw> yeah, it will do so, but installation you may want to use the minimal install route https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall
[20:58] <Newk> yes i did with this one.. was no other way
[20:58] <Newk> it works now pretty good exept HW accel
[20:59] <Newk> and it doesnt run programs that want to use opengl 3d
[20:59] <Newk> like blender or armagetronad
[21:00] <phillw> Newk: have a read  / ask on http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=334 let them know you're running 10.04 kernel.
[21:00] <Newk> if it works or if it still doesnt run?
[21:02] <Newk> ah so its not lubuntu specific but ubuntu 10.10 in general?
[21:02] <phillw> they are the people with graphics knowledge, please tag it as lubuntu when you post it, but I feel it is kernel issue.
[21:02] <Newk> k
[21:03] <phillw> Newk: they dropped a fair bit of stuff in 10.10, it's why lubuntu has committed to support the beta 10.04 as if it were a LTS
[21:04] <Newk> cool
[21:05] <Newk> i've got another (a bit better) desktop that runs ubuntu 10.04 with a geforce4.. i could also take out the card there to test it in this setup
[21:18] <llogiq> hi folks.
[21:20] <llogiq> Again, I only got mono sound from aqualung (package from lubuntu 10.04). Is this a bug in aqualung? Can anyone else confirm this?
[21:20] <bioterror> do you get mono sound from mpg321?
[21:22] <Newk> i've got stereo from audacios2
[21:22] <Newk> *audacious2
[21:24] <bioterror> then there's something wrong with aqualung?
[21:25] <Newk> no ive got now also stereo from aqualung
[21:25] <llogiq> bioterror: I don't have mpg321, but mplayer plays stereo.
[21:26] <Newk> lubuntu 10.10 here
[21:27] <llogiq> Strangely, apt-get install --reinstall aqualung warns that it could not authenticate the package.
[21:28] <Newk> weird.. why is aqualung in diffrent colours then all other desktop?
[21:28] <llogiq> Newk, it is using its own themes.
[21:28] <Newk> ah skins
[21:44] <llogiq> cu folks
[22:47] <Newk> hi.. i just popped a gefore4 card into this machine it feels quicker but im not sure if hardware acceleration is working.. what can i do to test it?
[22:48] <bioterror> glxgears
[22:48] <szczur> sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[22:48] <Newk> glxgears gives me an error
[22:48] <szczur> glxgears
[22:48] <szczur> Newk, what error?
[22:48] <bioterror> szczur, jar-jar binks "mesa think drivers" :D
[22:48] <szczur> glxgears is in the mesa-utils package
[22:48] <Newk> "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[22:48] <Newk> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual"
[22:49] <bioterror> well
[22:49] <bioterror> nvidia-glx-96 - Transitional package for nvidia-glx-96
[22:49] <bioterror> could that be a useful
[22:51] <szczur> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1592628
[22:51] <szczur> working drivers for the nvidia 4 series were release dtoday
[22:51] <szczur> so it will take some tim efor packagers to put it in the repositories
[22:52] <szczur> ok, afk for a moment
[22:56] <stlsaint> awesome
[23:04] <Newk> szczur: ah so i can stay with this lubuntu 10.10 with the geforce4 and can use opengl 3d in a short while.. great