| asac | fta: do you know if skia etc. all have the same contribution agreement? | 10:26 |
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| asac | fta: do you have a URL for that text? | 10:27 |
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| fta | asac, same contribution agreement? what do you mean? | 14:39 |
| asac | fta: chrome has contributor agreement to sign for patches to be landed, right? | 14:47 |
| asac | wonder if skia has something like that and if its the same text | 14:47 |
| fta | i think so but let me check | 15:04 |
| fta | asac, can't find anything, i'd say submit your patches to codereview | 15:13 |
| fta | you can also ask in the chromium dev m-l | 15:13 |
| asac | right thankx | 15:16 |
| fta | dpm, hi | 15:38 |
| dpm | hey fta, on the phone, I'll be back ~17:00 | 15:38 |
| fta | dpm, ok | 15:39 |
| fta | just wanted to say that i'm not sure langpack-o-matic is welcome for chromium.. lang-packs must more at the same speed as the browser | 15:40 |
| fta | -more+move | 15:42 |
| dpm | fta, what do you mean with move? Do you mean language packs should be released with every chromium update? | 15:47 |
| fta | dpm, most of the time, yes. not sure what's in the .pak files beside the strings | 15:48 |
| fta | dpm, grit also does resources, C headers, js files, etc. | 15:49 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: so abrowser is officially going then? | 15:50 |
| fta | also, that would be bad for people using ppa builds, far ahead of stable | 15:50 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - not yet, we still need to provide it. but we will provide it from xulrunner instead | 15:51 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: so, we're going to build it on top of xulrunner then? | 15:53 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - yeah :) | 15:53 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: ok | 15:53 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: still no word back about the artwork | 15:53 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - that's ok, i might have found somebody to work on it | 15:54 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: ok | 15:58 |
| dpm | fta, hm, I cannot think of any easy alternative, other than manually exporting translations from LP on every chromium update, which would basically put more workload on the maintainer, i.e. you | 16:02 |
| fta | dpm, lp auto-exports to bzr daily. During get-orig-source, i fetch that export, and merge with the upstream templates (so i take only the strings needed for that build). so it's no additional work | 16:06 |
| fta | dpm, so far, i ship all the lang packs in a single dedicated deb (upstream ships that with the browser), but lots of users don't even know it exists. otoh, the reason i split it initially is that it's big (1.1M) | 16:10 |
| dpm | fta, what does the langpack deb contain, the .pack files for all available languages? | 16:11 |
| fta | dpm, http://paste.ubuntu.com/525139/ | 16:12 |
| dpm | fta, ah, yeah | 16:12 |
| dpm | fta, if directly distributing the upstream translations with each package update seems a reasonable workflow to you and you think that standard Ubuntu language pack updates would be too slow for distributing the .pak files, then it sounds good to me. | 16:15 |
| dpm | but then again, my area of expertise is more on the translations themselves than on packaging workflow | 16:15 |
| fta | sure | 16:15 |
| fta | i don't plan to contribute strings upstream every day, only once in a while | 16:16 |
| fta | they can also grab the script and fetch everything themselves, i will let them know how once it starts rolling | 16:17 |
| hramrach | Hello | 17:19 |
| hramrach | How do I report bug on firefox4? | 17:19 |
| hramrach | launchpad refusees to accept them | 17:19 |
| hramrach | I'm running firefox4 on Debian and the Extensions page is broken. | 17:19 |
| hramrach | http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=6797 | 17:21 |
| hramrach | nothing works in it anyway | 17:27 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: do we do backports for tbird still? | 18:00 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - sort of | 18:00 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: what does that mean? | 18:00 |
| chrisccoulson | we still officially support TB2 for hardy and karmic | 18:00 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: but thats EOL upstream, right? | 18:00 |
| chrisccoulson | and we did a backport of the security issue last week | 18:00 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, that's long dead upstream | 18:01 |
| chrisccoulson | but 3.0 has also just gone EOL, and we're not going to backport fixes to that for lucid | 18:01 |
| chrisccoulson | we're going to update lucid to 3.1 at the next point release | 18:01 |
| chrisccoulson | (in december) | 18:01 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: ack. thats the right decision | 18:02 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: hardy is EOL April 2011? | 18:02 |
| chrisccoulson | it is :) | 18:02 |
| asac | good | 18:02 |
| chrisccoulson | 2 releases gone in 1 month. that's fantastic :) | 18:02 |
| asac | so nothing to be too bothered about i guess | 18:02 |
| asac | yep | 18:02 |
| asac | dapper was unfortunately slightly shifted to june, so i never experienced that joy ;) | 18:03 |
| chrisccoulson | heh :) | 18:03 |
| asac | davidascher: ^^ | 18:03 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll let you know what that's like in april! | 18:03 |
| asac | i can imagine the joy of pain flowing out of your bones | 18:03 |
| asac | only major version upgrades everywhere ;) ... what a lif | 18:03 |
| asac | e | 18:03 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 18:03 |
| asac | you dont even need a job anymore i guess :-P | 18:03 |
| davidascher | asac: what? | 18:04 |
| asac | davidascher: just FYI .... read a few lines of background. basically is same what i said in chat | 18:04 |
| asac | backlog ;) | 18:04 |
| davidascher | right | 18:04 |
| asac | (background ... /me is really too much in front of a computer) | 18:04 |
| asac | ok i am on a call | 18:06 |
| debfx | chrisccoulson: any news on the firefox kde merge? :) | 18:52 |
| chrisccoulson | debfx, will be this week | 18:52 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm getting FF4 ready to upload now in time for b7 | 18:52 |
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| micahg | chrisccoulson: did you want me to work on abrowser on top of xulrunner or were you going to do that? | 18:59 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - i don't mind, when do you think you'd have time to look at it? | 18:59 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: is it higher priority than thunderbird daily branches? | 18:59 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I was going to try to get that done next week | 18:59 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - no, i'd get the thunderbird dailies done first | 19:00 |
| chrisccoulson | i don't want abrowser to block anything else really ;) | 19:00 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: ok, so before the end of the month I should be able to get to that then | 19:00 |
| chrisccoulson | cool. i might do it before then if i get a chance | 19:00 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I have to finish up the shell wrapper so we can upload thunderbird 3.1.x to lucid, I should be able to have that by mid next week | 19:01 |
| micahg | unless we need it sooner | 19:01 |
| chrisccoulson | i wouldn't mind getting it in there sooner. i've not had a chance to look at it yet though to figure out what we need to do | 19:02 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: the script isn't too bad, it'll be the update testing that's time consuming | 19:03 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm going to make these scripts simpler this week, by writing a more intelligent profile migrator :) | 19:04 |
| chrisccoulson | and hopefully avoid these issues where | 19:04 |
| chrisccoulson | although, that doesn't help us for lucid ;) | 19:05 |
| debfx | chrisccoulson: cool, when is the new beta going to be released? | 19:06 |
| chrisccoulson | debfx - "early november" is all i know. i've not looked at the remaining blockers though to know if that will happen | 19:07 |
| chrisccoulson | but it will be soon | 19:08 |
| chrisccoulson | and i want to get b7 in to natty ASAP :) | 19:08 |
| shirish | chrisccoulson: hi! | 19:08 |
| shirish | chrisccoulson: is b7 already out? | 19:09 |
| chrisccoulson | shirish, not yet | 19:10 |
| shirish | I have a query, I found an addon https-anywhere, the EFF people are behind it | 19:10 |
| shirish | has it been packaged or something within the ubuntu universe. | 19:11 |
| shirish | one way is to download the .xpi file from the site itself but would be nice if the mozillateam has packaged it or something | 19:11 |
| shirish | anybody have any idea? | 19:11 |
| chrisccoulson | we generally don't package extensions anymore, except in exceptional circumstances | 19:12 |
| chrisccoulson | they are a PITA to maintain | 19:12 |
| chrisccoulson | if they're easily installable with a xpi and don't contain binary components, there is no compelling reason to ship it in the archive | 19:12 |
| shirish | chrisccoulson: ah ok, I do understand the PITA comment | 19:13 |
| shirish | and I agree. I asked as I remembered about a year or more ago that was the norm. | 19:13 |
| shirish | chrisccoulson: very true. It was just it was the norm that's why I didn't download it and asked it. | 19:14 |
| shirish | chrisccoulson: any idea about chromium packaging, IIRC it was some people from this team that were also looking at the chromium browser packaging | 19:14 |
| chrisccoulson | that's fta ;) | 19:15 |
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| chrisccoulson | heh :) | 19:16 |
| shirish | fta ? | 19:16 |
| fta | ? | 19:17 |
| shirish | what's fta? | 19:19 |
| fta | eh? | 19:19 |
| shirish | ah, that's name of a person | 19:20 |
| fta | it's me | 19:20 |
| shirish | fta: sorry, couldn't see that, I'm using ircci and it doesn't highlight names | 19:20 |
| shirish | fta: or have different colors for name. | 19:20 |
| micahg | fta: you ok with the new topic? | 19:20 |
| fta | micahg, i don't mind. it's confusing, but i'm used to it now | 19:21 |
| shirish | micahg: what are *Natty* Mozilla builds? What does Natty indicate here? | 19:22 |
| micahg | shirish: Natty is Maverick + 1 | 19:22 |
| === micahg changed the topic of #ubuntu-mozillateam to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Mozilla Team (Chromium too!): | Natty Mozilla Daily builds are broke (see LP: #663294) http://pad.lv/663294 | No updates in http://is.gd/dsudW need testing | Firefox 3.6.12 in Hardy-Maverick | Thunderbird 3.1.x Now in Maverick/Daily PPA, Coming to Stable PPA Soon | Firefox 4.0 Beta PPA http://is.gd/f6TM4 | Report Mozilla PPA bugs here: http://is.gd/dPML | ||
| shirish | micahg: ah ok, apologies then, should have been updated about that. | 19:24 |
| shirish | the names the devs. come up with. | 19:24 |
| micahg | shirish: it's actually sabdfl that comes up with the names | 19:25 |
| shirish | I am guessing sabdfl is the name of our sublime dictator | 19:25 |
| micahg | !sabdfl | shirish | 19:26 |
| ubot2 | shirish: Mark "sabdfl" Shuttleworth is our favourite cosmonaut, the founder of Canonical and the primary driver behind Ubuntu. You can find pieces of his thinking at http://www.markshuttleworth.com | 19:26 |
| shirish | micahg: thanx | 19:27 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: autogenerated control files, nice :) | 19:33 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I'll be borrowing that for Thunderbird :) | 19:34 |
| jcastro | chrisccoulson: xulrunner appmenu done yet? | 19:36 |
| jcastro | :) | 19:36 |
| fta | ok, i seriously doubt the rosetta bugs will get fixed any time soon. i guess i'll see if i can find workarounds | 19:59 |
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| BUGabundo | evening | 21:05 |
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