[10:26] fta: do you know if skia etc. all have the same contribution agreement? [10:27] fta: do you have a URL for that text? === JanC_ is now known as JanC === asac_ is now known as asac [14:39] asac, same contribution agreement? what do you mean? [14:47] fta: chrome has contributor agreement to sign for patches to be landed, right? [14:47] wonder if skia has something like that and if its the same text [15:04] i think so but let me check [15:13] asac, can't find anything, i'd say submit your patches to codereview [15:13] you can also ask in the chromium dev m-l [15:16] right thankx [15:38] dpm, hi [15:38] hey fta, on the phone, I'll be back ~17:00 [15:39] dpm, ok [15:40] just wanted to say that i'm not sure langpack-o-matic is welcome for chromium.. lang-packs must more at the same speed as the browser [15:42] -more+move [15:47] fta, what do you mean with move? Do you mean language packs should be released with every chromium update? [15:48] dpm, most of the time, yes. not sure what's in the .pak files beside the strings [15:49] dpm, grit also does resources, C headers, js files, etc. [15:50] chrisccoulson: so abrowser is officially going then? [15:50] also, that would be bad for people using ppa builds, far ahead of stable [15:51] micahg - not yet, we still need to provide it. but we will provide it from xulrunner instead [15:53] chrisccoulson: so, we're going to build it on top of xulrunner then? [15:53] micahg - yeah :) [15:53] chrisccoulson: ok [15:53] chrisccoulson: still no word back about the artwork [15:54] micahg - that's ok, i might have found somebody to work on it [15:58] chrisccoulson: ok [16:02] fta, hm, I cannot think of any easy alternative, other than manually exporting translations from LP on every chromium update, which would basically put more workload on the maintainer, i.e. you [16:06] dpm, lp auto-exports to bzr daily. During get-orig-source, i fetch that export, and merge with the upstream templates (so i take only the strings needed for that build). so it's no additional work [16:10] dpm, so far, i ship all the lang packs in a single dedicated deb (upstream ships that with the browser), but lots of users don't even know it exists. otoh, the reason i split it initially is that it's big (1.1M) [16:11] fta, what does the langpack deb contain, the .pack files for all available languages? [16:12] dpm, http://paste.ubuntu.com/525139/ [16:12] fta, ah, yeah [16:15] fta, if directly distributing the upstream translations with each package update seems a reasonable workflow to you and you think that standard Ubuntu language pack updates would be too slow for distributing the .pak files, then it sounds good to me. [16:15] but then again, my area of expertise is more on the translations themselves than on packaging workflow [16:15] sure [16:16] i don't plan to contribute strings upstream every day, only once in a while [16:17] they can also grab the script and fetch everything themselves, i will let them know how once it starts rolling [17:19] Hello [17:19] How do I report bug on firefox4? [17:19] launchpad refusees to accept them [17:19] I'm running firefox4 on Debian and the Extensions page is broken. [17:21] http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=6797 [17:27] nothing works in it anyway [18:00] chrisccoulson: do we do backports for tbird still? [18:00] asac - sort of [18:00] chrisccoulson: what does that mean? [18:00] we still officially support TB2 for hardy and karmic [18:00] chrisccoulson: but thats EOL upstream, right? [18:00] and we did a backport of the security issue last week [18:01] yeah, that's long dead upstream [18:01] but 3.0 has also just gone EOL, and we're not going to backport fixes to that for lucid [18:01] we're going to update lucid to 3.1 at the next point release [18:01] (in december) [18:02] chrisccoulson: ack. thats the right decision [18:02] chrisccoulson: hardy is EOL April 2011? [18:02] it is :) [18:02] good [18:02] 2 releases gone in 1 month. that's fantastic :) [18:02] so nothing to be too bothered about i guess [18:02] yep [18:03] dapper was unfortunately slightly shifted to june, so i never experienced that joy ;) [18:03] heh :) [18:03] davidascher: ^^ [18:03] i'll let you know what that's like in april! [18:03] i can imagine the joy of pain flowing out of your bones [18:03] only major version upgrades everywhere ;) ... what a lif [18:03] e [18:03] lol [18:03] you dont even need a job anymore i guess :-P [18:04] asac: what? [18:04] davidascher: just FYI .... read a few lines of background. basically is same what i said in chat [18:04] backlog ;) [18:04] right [18:04] (background ... /me is really too much in front of a computer) [18:06] ok i am on a call [18:52] chrisccoulson: any news on the firefox kde merge? :) [18:52] debfx, will be this week [18:52] i'm getting FF4 ready to upload now in time for b7 === yofel_ is now known as yofel [18:59] chrisccoulson: did you want me to work on abrowser on top of xulrunner or were you going to do that? [18:59] micahg - i don't mind, when do you think you'd have time to look at it? [18:59] chrisccoulson: is it higher priority than thunderbird daily branches? [18:59] chrisccoulson: I was going to try to get that done next week [19:00] micahg - no, i'd get the thunderbird dailies done first [19:00] i don't want abrowser to block anything else really ;) [19:00] chrisccoulson: ok, so before the end of the month I should be able to get to that then [19:00] cool. i might do it before then if i get a chance [19:01] chrisccoulson: I have to finish up the shell wrapper so we can upload thunderbird 3.1.x to lucid, I should be able to have that by mid next week [19:01] unless we need it sooner [19:02] i wouldn't mind getting it in there sooner. i've not had a chance to look at it yet though to figure out what we need to do [19:03] chrisccoulson: the script isn't too bad, it'll be the update testing that's time consuming [19:04] i'm going to make these scripts simpler this week, by writing a more intelligent profile migrator :) [19:04] and hopefully avoid these issues where [19:05] although, that doesn't help us for lucid ;) [19:06] chrisccoulson: cool, when is the new beta going to be released? [19:07] debfx - "early november" is all i know. i've not looked at the remaining blockers though to know if that will happen [19:08] but it will be soon [19:08] and i want to get b7 in to natty ASAP :) [19:08] chrisccoulson: hi! [19:09] chrisccoulson: is b7 already out? [19:10] shirish, not yet [19:10] I have a query, I found an addon https-anywhere, the EFF people are behind it [19:11] has it been packaged or something within the ubuntu universe. [19:11] one way is to download the .xpi file from the site itself but would be nice if the mozillateam has packaged it or something [19:11] anybody have any idea? [19:12] we generally don't package extensions anymore, except in exceptional circumstances [19:12] they are a PITA to maintain [19:12] if they're easily installable with a xpi and don't contain binary components, there is no compelling reason to ship it in the archive [19:13] chrisccoulson: ah ok, I do understand the PITA comment [19:13] and I agree. I asked as I remembered about a year or more ago that was the norm. [19:14] chrisccoulson: very true. It was just it was the norm that's why I didn't download it and asked it. [19:14] chrisccoulson: any idea about chromium packaging, IIRC it was some people from this team that were also looking at the chromium browser packaging [19:15] that's fta ;) === micahg changed the topic of #ubuntu-mozillateam to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Mozilla Team (Chromium too!): | Natty Mozilla builds are broke (see LP: #663294) http://pad.lv/663294 | No updates in http://is.gd/dsudW need testing | Firefox 3.6.12 in Hardy-Maverick | Thunderbird 3.1.x Now in Maverick/Daily PPA, Coming to Stable PPA Soon | Firefox 4.0 Beta PPA http://is.gd/f6TM4 | Report Mozilla PPA bugs here: http://is.gd/dPML [19:16] heh :) [19:16] fta ? [19:17] ? [19:19] what's fta? [19:19] eh? [19:20] ah, that's name of a person [19:20] it's me [19:20] fta: sorry, couldn't see that, I'm using ircci and it doesn't highlight names [19:20] fta: or have different colors for name. [19:20] fta: you ok with the new topic? [19:21] micahg, i don't mind. it's confusing, but i'm used to it now [19:22] micahg: what are *Natty* Mozilla builds? What does Natty indicate here? [19:22] shirish: Natty is Maverick + 1 === micahg changed the topic of #ubuntu-mozillateam to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Mozilla Team (Chromium too!): | Natty Mozilla Daily builds are broke (see LP: #663294) http://pad.lv/663294 | No updates in http://is.gd/dsudW need testing | Firefox 3.6.12 in Hardy-Maverick | Thunderbird 3.1.x Now in Maverick/Daily PPA, Coming to Stable PPA Soon | Firefox 4.0 Beta PPA http://is.gd/f6TM4 | Report Mozilla PPA bugs here: http://is.gd/dPML [19:24] micahg: ah ok, apologies then, should have been updated about that. [19:24] the names the devs. come up with. [19:25] shirish: it's actually sabdfl that comes up with the names [19:25] I am guessing sabdfl is the name of our sublime dictator [19:26] !sabdfl | shirish [19:26] shirish: Mark "sabdfl" Shuttleworth is our favourite cosmonaut, the founder of Canonical and the primary driver behind Ubuntu. You can find pieces of his thinking at http://www.markshuttleworth.com [19:27] micahg: thanx [19:33] chrisccoulson: autogenerated control files, nice :) [19:34] chrisccoulson: I'll be borrowing that for Thunderbird :) [19:36] chrisccoulson: xulrunner appmenu done yet? [19:36] :) [19:59] ok, i seriously doubt the rosetta bugs will get fixed any time soon. i guess i'll see if i can find workarounds === davida is now known as davidascher [21:05] evening