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Riddell** testers needed for 4.5.3 on 10.1000:09
e_t_Riddell: packages or source/compile?00:25
Riddelle_t_: packages00:31
Riddelljoin #kubuntu-devel if interested00:31
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mikesplacehey guys, my kubuntus been drinkin`.. I rebooted my box I input my username and password and it blinked red as if i put the wrong password in the field, when I try to login via console everything works ok01:30
mikesplacehey guys, my kubuntus been drinkin`.. I rebooted my box I input my username and password and it blinked red as if i put the wrong password in the field, when I try to login via console everything works ok01:32
DeliriumTremenswhere is the wallpaper setting?  Not under Desktop, as I imagined it would be.02:28
moetunesright click anywhere on the desktop02:34
davesnothere_anyone here who might be able to assist with a wireless card issue?03:11
e_t_davesnothere: that rather depends on the wireless card issue. If it's on fire, we can't help with that ;)03:19
davesnothere_e_t_ I actually think I may have figured it out myself.03:35
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sintheteki was hoping to obtain some help with my three main issues (which seem to be kind of a pain to google).04:11
sinthetekFirst, for some reason kdm seems to crash any time i logout. Second, my mic doesn't seem to work and i'm not sure how to debug it or where the source of the problem is (it's unmuted in alsamixer, plugging in an external mic doesn't work and output works fine). Finally, i cannot control brightness and most of my fn keys don't seem to work04:13
sinthetekall of these are relatively minor issues that i can live with but i was hoping to resolve at least a couple (primarily the mic and kdm problem)04:15
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claydohsinthetek: for the mic problem, try installing pavucontrol (assuming you are running 10.10 Maverick), it provides a better control for pulseaudio and devices04:21
claydohsinthetek: the brightness issue might be specific to your hardware04:22
claydohbut I don't know what that is ;)04:22
claydohsinthetek: and as to the kdm crash on logout, I remember  a bugreport on this, will look and see if I can locate it04:23
claydohsinthetek:  bug 642671 and bug 65129404:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 642671 in xorg (Ubuntu) "[Maverick beta] Xorg crash at KDE logout (dup-of: 651294)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/64267104:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 651294 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "X crash on KDM logout (still - yes, really)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65129404:29
sinthetekclaydoh: thanks for the pavucontrol suggestion. i'll try it out now04:41
sinthetekas for brightness, i saw forum posts on it before and found out i could adjust it with fn from bios, hence it not bugging me too much atm :P04:42
NeurotrophinWhat's the package name for get apache rewrite engine?04:42
sinthetekkdm: i saw a bug report but it was from a few weeks ago. i assumed they [thought they?] fixed it and i might be experiencing a different bug04:43
sinthetekNeurotrophin: libapache2-mod-proxy-html - Apache2 filter module for HTML links rewriting04:44
sinthetekis that it?04:44
Neurotrophinnope..04:45
Neurotrophinthere's one enabling to put rewrite rules in .htaccess files or in apache config..04:45
Neurotrophinthat looks like a proxy thingy04:45
sinthetekjust checking. i never messed with rewrites much (or apache on debian/ubuntu for that matter)04:45
sinthetekyeah, i know but i figured since rewrites are often used for some sort of proxying (in one sense or another) that might be it04:46
sinthetekanyway, sorry if i was mistaken04:46
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k0sЗдрав05:23
k0s12305:25
k0shelp05:25
moetunesk0s:  you need to say what you need help with ...05:33
k0ssank u05:34
k0sis it who05:35
sresuGood to know about muon package manager inclusion in Maverick but does it give information about the memory of packages being installed?05:37
weecolguys05:54
* weecol want code to read05:55
weecolwhere to start reading to re aqwaint with old skills05:56
weecolany guys need coding help05:58
nocturnaDoes anyone know if the kde 4.5.3 packages are broken atm? I did a dist-upgrade..and didn't realize it removed kdm, along with other packages.  I got stuck in a terminal..and couldn't get kubuntu-desktop installed. Gives me a broken packages error.06:21
moetunesnocturna:  you could try   sudo apt-get install -f06:22
nocturnaTried that, no such luck.06:23
nocturnaMy errors are mostly like:  Depends: libkfile4 (>= 4:4.5.3) but 4:4.5.2a-0ubuntu1~ppa2 is to be installed Looks like it's trying to install 4.5.2 or something weird.06:23
moetunesdid you update before upgrading after adding the ppa?06:24
nocturnaYes, I believe so06:26
moetunes4.5.3 was just released yesterday iirc06:27
nocturnaYeah..I'm thinking maybe something is missing in the repo. I installed ubuntu-desktop without a problem.06:28
moetunesurghh gnome06:29
nocturnamoetunes: I agree ;(. Lol06:29
noaXessgood morning06:29
noaXessis there any way to start two different folders, if i start dolphin in splitt mode?06:29
sresuHow to find keyboard shortcuts in KDE?06:30
nocturnaAhh okay I got it, definitely is something with the ppa repo. I commented those out, and tried and it worked.06:31
nocturnaNow I'm getting 4.5.1..but oh well o.o06:32
sresu!Shortcuts06:32
ubottuKeyboard shortcuts can be set in System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts.06:32
sresu!Shortcuts KDE06:32
sresuAh-ok06:33
Kalidarnhmm if kubuntu updates is that going to mean my DBG packages don't work?06:35
Kalidarnhmm nocturna then i might wait06:37
Kalidarnbefore doing dist update :)06:37
Kalidarn few days ;P06:37
nocturnaKalidarn: Yeah, that's what I'd do..to be safe.06:38
nocturnaI may have done something wrong, but I don't think how I could have. Haha06:38
nocturnasee*06:38
sresuIs there any command for locking screen like we have for shutdown in CLI?06:38
nocturnaGoogle tells me qdbus org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver /ScreenSaver Lock . You could try it.06:40
sresuOk thanks06:43
sresunocturna: Usually Ctrl+Alt+L licks the screen, that would be a keyboard shortcut. I was searching for one line command for locking screen06:44
sresu*locks06:44
zegenie_I'm pretty sure the kde sc 4.5.3 updates are not supposed to want to remove packages like plasma-desktop, kdeworkspace-bin and kubuntu-desktop07:13
dog_hi guys, i've a computer under a lan at home and i would like to connect to it using krfb on a computer at work. I've to create a vpn?07:20
Kalidarntrue, i haven't upgraded yet zegenie_07:47
KalidarnThe following packages will be REMOVED:07:47
Kalidarn  kde-window-manager kdebase-apps kdebase-bin kdebase-workspace kdebase-workspace-bin kdepasswd kdeplasma-addons kdeplasma-addons-dbg kdm kinfocenter konqueror ksysguard kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts libplasmaclock4b plasma-dataengines-workspace plasma-desktop plasma-netbook plasma-wallpapers-addons plasma-widgets-addons07:47
Kalidarn  plasma-widgets-workspace rekonq07:47
FloodBotK1Kalidarn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.07:47
zegenie_same here07:47
zegenie_seems weird since the releaes announ07:47
zegenie_stupid enter key07:47
Kalidarnhmm07:47
zegenie_seems weird since the release announcement is out on kubuntu.org to have such obvious packaging bugs07:48
Kalidarni am not updating because i'm concerned that it will break something07:48
Kalidarnyeah07:48
Kalidarnzegenie_: it will break it too07:48
Kalidarn[17:01:51] <nocturna> Ahh okay I got it, definitely is something with the ppa repo. I commented those out, and tried and it worked.07:48
zegenie_what ppa repo?07:49
Kalidarn[16:51:12] <nocturna> Does anyone know if the kde 4.5.3 packages are broken atm? I did a dist-upgrade..and didn't realize it removed kdm, along with other packages.  I got stuck in a terminal..and couldn't get kubuntu-desktop installed. Gives me a broken packages error.07:49
zegenie_exactly07:49
Kalidarnsounds like what would happen if you said yes to apt-get ;)07:49
zegenie_not something you'd want to do ;)07:49
Kalidarnso they're certainly broken07:49
nebulahelp07:49
nebulakdm:07:49
nebula  Depends: libkio5 (>=4:4.5.3) but 4:4.5.2a-0ubuntu1~ppa2 is to be installed07:49
nebula Depends: libkworkspace4 but it is not going to be installed07:49
FloodBotK1nebula: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.07:49
Kalidarnlol :P someone just broke their system07:49
Kalidarndo not upgrade to the ppa at the moment, it seems to break things07:50
nebula0_o07:52
alvinHmm, I just arrived. aptitude full-upgrade isn't pretty today07:54
alvinSomeone already filed bug 67078807:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 670788 in Kubuntu PPA "Updating KDE 4.5.1 -> 4.5.3 in Kubuntu 10.10 requires removal of necessary packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67078807:59
bigbrovarhas anyone been able to  upgrade to kde 4.5.3 on kubuntu 10.10? I am getting some dependency errors when I try to upgrade http://pastebin.com/gKJjWzkQ08:28
rapidsphi08:30
rapidsptryed to install 4.5.3 - didnt install kdm... :)08:30
rapidspanybody tryed this?08:31
bigbrovarrapidsp: I am getting some deps error too when I tried upgrading08:32
bigbrovarso I don't think u are alone http://pastebin.com/gKJjWzkQ08:32
rapidspbigbrovar: ppa or backports? or both?08:34
bigbrovarI have just the kubuntu ppa enabled08:35
bigbrovarI don't have backport enabled08:35
bigbrovarrapidsp: .08:35
rapidspok... understand08:35
rapidspdo you know, how check updates for this?08:36
nebulahttp://img202.imageshack.us/i/screenshotwj.png/08:37
nebulahelp08:37
nebulabigbrovar,  help08:38
nebulahelp08:38
rapidspnebula: i removed ppa, then manually reinstall pkgs by kubuntu-desktop deps, then installed kubuntu-desktop08:40
rapidspnow i have 4.5.1......08:40
nebularapidsp,  ok08:41
rapidspwaiting for repos fix :)08:42
bigbrovarrapidsp: I didn't get that.08:43
bigbrovaru mean u reinstalled kubuntu-desktop? and that fixed the problem?08:43
rapidspyea08:43
bigbrovarhmmm08:44
rapidspbut 4.5.108:44
bigbrovarso its not a problem with the repo then?08:44
bigbrovaroh ok08:44
bigbrovaroh u mean u downgraded to 4.5.108:44
rapidspyes08:44
bigbrovarahh that was after kdm could not install after u tried upgrading to 4.5.308:45
bigbrovarget u now08:45
bigbrovaram just glad its a general problem and am not alone08:45
rapidsp)08:45
nebulakubuntu-desktop:08:45
nebula Depends: kde-window-manager but it is not going to be installed08:45
nebula Depends: kdebase-workspace-bin but it is not going to be installed08:45
nebula Depends: ksysguard but it is not going to be installed08:45
nebula Depends: plasma-desktop but it is not going to be installed08:45
FloodBotK1nebula: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.08:45
nebula Depends: plasma-netbook but it is not going to be installed08:45
rapidspheh08:46
Kalidarnhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/67078808:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 670788 in Kubuntu PPA "Updating KDE 4.5.1 -> 4.5.3 in Kubuntu 10.10 requires removal of necessary packages" [Undecided,Confirmed]08:46
alvinbug 67078408:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 670784 in Kubuntu PPA "Desktop environment does not load after KDE SC 4.5.3 update" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67078408:47
Kalidarnaren't they duplicates alvin08:47
alvinKalidarn: No, but you could see them as duplicates because the first bug is the cause of the problems in the second bug.08:48
Kalidarntrue.08:48
Kalidarni hope they're fixed soon08:49
alvinDifferent solutions will apply for both bugs08:49
bigbrovargreat misery loves company :)08:49
Kalidarnfor now i'm staying on 4.5.2 :P till they are cleared08:49
Kalidarnim soo lucky i didn't upgrade :P08:49
Kalidarni had begun to08:49
bigbrovarKalidarn: yeah but that would still give some problems if u want to install some kde packages08:50
alvinIf I see 2 pages of output from aptitude it's a 'no'.08:50
bigbrovaras it stands kubuntu repo is kinda broken cus apt has tasted new packages and would reply on the newer libraries08:50
Kalidarnbigbrovar: that's good point actually08:50
bigbrovarrely*08:51
Kalidarnfortunately i've installed all of KDE :P08:51
Kalidarnincluding dbg08:51
rapidspi confirmed :)08:51
Kalidarni guess though anyone on a production system should not be using ppa :)08:52
Kalidarnnot unless they have a spare computer08:52
Kalidarnfor doing their work on08:52
alvinThat's a pity, because the ppa's are mainly monthly bugfixes in the case of KDE08:53
alvinKDE 4.5.3 has no new features08:54
Kalidarnyeah08:54
Kalidarnim sure there will be a fix soon08:54
Kalidarnits usually why i don't upgrade 0day :P08:54
Kalidarni wait a couple of days08:54
illunaticanyone know how to get the pid using a udp port?09:18
illunaticto find which process is connecting on that port09:18
illunaticoops meant for OT09:19
geraldrhawkhello all09:20
geraldrhawkk,khkjh09:21
naftilos76hi i just tried to upgrade to KDE 4.5.2 from ppa and kpackagekit did obviously something nasty and i am now in a konsole. Packages of  KDE were removed. I tried doing 'sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop' and tried installing it again but i keep getting messages like: Following packages have unsolved dependencies (translation fm my lang) and starts fm 'kubuntu-desktop' saying : Depends on ark but will not be installed and keeps saying that09:21
naftilos76 for lots of other pkgs.09:21
geekosopherupdating to 4.5.3 from kubuntu-ppa requires removal of kubuntu-desktop, plasma-desktop, kde-window-manager, and such other 17 (important) packages - will it be safe to upgrade?09:22
geraldrhawkdam... that is crazy...09:22
alvinnaftilos76: bug 670788 and bug 670784 Maybe someone can set those in the topic?09:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 670788 in Kubuntu PPA "Updating KDE 4.5.1 -> 4.5.3 in Kubuntu 10.10 requires removal of necessary packages" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67078809:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 670784 in Kubuntu PPA "Desktop environment does not load after KDE SC 4.5.3 update" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67078409:22
naftilos76ok, what can i do now? is there a solution?09:23
Kalidarnppa currently has broken packages09:24
geekosophernaftilos76: you confirmed my fears, its the 4.5.3 that it is trying to upgrade to which was released yesterday09:24
Kalidarnwait till fix, or go back to 4.5.1 is the only thing you can do09:24
naftilos76shall i search for pkgs that must be removed first and then do 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' ?09:24
Kalidarnafaik09:24
Kalidarnsee the two bugs09:24
naftilos76i tried to upgrade to 4.5.3 not 4.5.2...sorry09:24
Kalidarnbug 670788 and bug 67078409:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 670788 in Kubuntu PPA "Updating KDE 4.5.1 -> 4.5.3 in Kubuntu 10.10 requires removal of necessary packages" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67078809:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 670784 in Kubuntu PPA "Desktop environment does not load after KDE SC 4.5.3 update" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67078409:24
geraldrhawkthat means 4.5.3 doesnt work...lol09:25
Kalidarncorrect09:25
Kalidarn:P09:25
Kalidarni hope they fix it soon09:25
geraldrhawkuse 4.5.1... right?09:25
Kalidarnyeah09:26
Kalidarnmake sure you remove the ppa from /etc/apt/source.d09:26
Kalidarn/etc/apt/sources.list.d/ rather09:26
naftilos76can i force the installation of kubuntu-desktop 4.5.2?09:26
Kalidarnpossibly but i don't know if that will work09:26
geraldrhawkusing *ubuntustudio**...lol09:27
geraldrhawkhad a hell of a time getting that to work w/ broadcom wifi... but go er done... :P09:29
Kalidarni thought it was as simple as installing one package09:29
Kalidarnfwcutter for broadcom09:29
geraldrhawkyeah but when all u have is wireless internet had to go to brothers house to use ethernet internet...09:30
Kalidarnoh :P09:30
Kalidarnyeah09:30
geraldrhawkthen dl drivers... then there is no network manager on this version...09:31
Kalidarnhmm09:31
geraldrhawkwhich is very sad indeed...09:31
geraldrhawkso i had to apt-get gnome-network-manager....09:31
geraldrhawkand it also didnt have ubuntu software package....09:32
geraldrhawkso had to manually get that as well...09:32
geraldrhawkother than that installing it on my laptop took 2 hours before all that craziness...09:33
geraldrhawkfound out that it refuses to boot live from a USB...09:33
geraldrhawkso had to use k3b to make a dam disk before i did all that too....LOL09:33
naftilos76how do i uninstall all pkgs that were install from ppa? that way i can go back to KDE 4.5.1...09:34
naftilos76anyone?09:34
naftilos76can i do that with a single command?09:34
geraldrhawki am not sure myself how to do that one in terminal.... always used software center to uninstall... prob should learn tho09:36
geraldrhawki will get the info 4 u if no-one else responds...09:38
naftilos76dpkg could probably do that09:38
naftilos76i will see the man page09:38
geekosopherdoes kpackagekit reconfirm (after cliking apply) while upgrading packages especially if it involves removal of some packages? Atleast the initial screen listing the packages to be upgraded does not warn about removal of packages09:38
geekosophernaftilos76: i guess you can tell09:39
geraldrhawkguess its as simple as: sudo apt-get remove <packagename>09:40
Peace-#kubuntu-offtopic09:42
bigbrovarnaftilos76: yeah u can use a tool call ppa-purge09:43
bigbrovaru have to install it though09:43
bigbrovarsudo apt-get install ppa-purge09:44
geekosopherbigbrovar: cool tool!09:44
geekosopherbigbrovar: thanks for that info :)09:45
bigbrovarand to go back to kde 4.5.1 packages which are the officially supported packages for 10.10. just do "ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ppa"09:45
bigbrovarwithout the quotes of cause09:46
naftilos76geekosopher: the solution was => sudo dpkg -r $(dpkg -l | grep 4.5.3 | grepp ii)09:46
bigbrovarthis would disable the kubuntu-ppa repo and downgarde all its packages back to official repo packages (i.e kde 4.5.1)09:47
geekosophernaftilos76: did that work? are you back to 4.5.1?09:47
bigbrovarsomeone whosuld remove the infor about the upgrade from kubuntu.org or add a caveat09:48
naftilos76of course not it just removed 4.5.3 packages09:48
bigbrovarso as not to mislead people unaware of the problem09:48
geekosopherbigbrovar: +109:48
geekosophernaftilos76: anyways, what i actually wanted to know from you was, did you try upgrade using kpackagekit?09:50
geraldrhawkdum dum dum09:52
Mamarokgeraldrhawk: behave, please!09:52
geraldrhawki am being good...09:53
naftilos76yes unfortunately yes - i knew that kpackage is along way from being anything close to 'reliable' but i did it. I even tried 'sudo apt-get upgrade' in a konsole which as i remember indicated that it will remove lots of kde stuff but will update them accordingly. Dam kpackagekit indicated that it will only remove them! that was my mistake. There is a chance that if i upgraded through apt-get it would have worked...I think!09:54
geraldrhawk:P09:55
geekosophernaftilos76: thanks, just wanted to know that (that whether kpackagekit warns about removing packages) :)09:55
naftilos76i have now removed all 4.5.2 and 4.5.3 packages and after doing 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' i see a proper response from apt-get. That is, i see a bunch of packages ready to install. I get right to it...09:55
geekosophernaftilos76: all the best09:56
naftilos76i have removed ppa from the sources09:56
geraldrhawkthis chatroom is better than geek squad... :P! kubuntu ftw09:59
geraldrhawkany1 want some scotch?10:02
geraldrhawkno takers?10:04
geraldrhawk...this is a tough crowd...10:05
geraldrhawkwell u all have a good night...and i will make sure i drink one for all of you tonight...10:08
naftilos76cheers10:09
ussher_i have an issue with FTP, hope this is the right place.  I got blocked from my rental server.  FTP access went down, email went down, access through firefox went down.  The server tech unblocked me.  Now i have firefox access, email access, but No FTP access. my firend can access with the username/password details from a different location.  but from here i get "530 login authentication failed."  any ideas as to what could be causing it?10:28
ussher_Tried Konqueror FTP, Firefox FTP and also wget FTP but no access from this location10:30
Peace-wow+10:30
moetunesussher_:  that would be a question for the server host10:30
moetunesafaik10:30
ussher_moetunes: yeah we spent an hour on chat trying to figure it out.  but since FTP was working to other boxes on that network and FTP was working for everyone else the only idea we could come up with was ISP.  so kind of stumped.10:31
moetunesussher_:  tried with a diff user on that box?10:33
ussher_yeah we changed the user | changed the password | tried from a different pc here (incase it was a rogue proceess on my machine)10:34
kyubutsubut you believe the problem is at the box ..10:35
ussher_tried 'wget ftp://ussher:thepassword@sitename.org/test'10:35
ussher_I feel like the issue is at the box because i did get blocked on all access paths then the access was re-allowed on email and firefox.  But the tech support completely disabled the firewall and i still coulnt acceess.10:36
moetunescan you ftp from another site?10:36
moetuneslike kernel.org or something10:36
ussher_I can FTP into my all my other domains hosted with that same host.  (i have a resellers account with many domains and this was into the VPS box that ive lost FTP access)10:37
kyubutsuthere are more active speakers at ##linux that might have an idea about your issue, moetunes10:37
ussher_to me it looks like the username/pass is wrong because its a "530 login authenticaion failed."10:38
kyubutsujust a thought10:38
moetuneskyubutsu:  I have no issues 'cept not getting paid enough..10:38
ussher_cheers kyubutsu10:38
ussher_im the one with the weirdness frustration today.10:38
moetunesheh10:38
kyubutsuright..10:39
kyubutsuwell.. that was for ussher_ really10:39
ussher_I figure ill just wait until my ISP re-assigns me a new IP address and see if that might have been the issue.  Just cant think of anything else10:39
ussher_:)10:39
ussher_Thanks guys.10:40
verycznDoes Ibus works well on Kubuntu 10.10?10:46
barrapontoanyone having issues with kopete?10:46
barrapontoveryczn: i'm having no issues with ibus, so far10:47
verycznKopete does not support Gtalk10:47
barrapontoveryczn: what?10:48
verycznWhat "what" ?10:48
barrapontoveryczn: i'm connected to gtalk10:49
barrapontoveryczn: i have been using kopete on archlinux for 2 years, and had no issues with gtalk.10:49
barrapontoveryczn: i am having some issues with kopete on kubuntu, but i have not tested disabling the gtalk account.10:50
verycznYes. I doesn't work10:50
barrapontoit connects and sends/receives messages10:51
verycznI know that.10:51
moetuneswhat we have here is a failure to communicate...10:52
barrapontomoetunes: some men you just can't reach10:55
moetunesheh thnx for playing :))10:55
barrapontomoetunes: i was trying to remember the intro to that song yesterday10:55
ussher_before it was a song, it was a  movie, think it was "cool hand luke"10:56
moetunesbarraponto:  my line was from a movie  cool hand luke10:56
barrapontogood to know, let's download the movie10:57
moetunesthat's the way he wanted it - that's the sort of man he is10:57
wilhartegm11:15
wilhartkubuntu upgrade failed11:15
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liquidatThe Kubuntu PPA-KDE 4.5.3 upgrade failed here horribly...11:56
liquidatAnyone knows why not all packages were upgraded and pushed to the repos properly?11:57
moetunesit's a known bug - give it a day or so11:57
collabraliquidat: they wern't upgraded and pushed properly because 10.10 started upgraded and was 'pushed' to the repos before it was debuggeed properly and the people at kubuntu didn't want to suprise anyone by putting out a decent product...  :)12:04
liquidatcollabra: Erm... whut? Strange...12:05
Peace-i am here with kubuntu 4.4.2 and i am happy12:05
Peace-.12:05
Peace-no upgrading= stable system12:05
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collabraliquidat: don't mind my rant,... 10.10 sucks thoroughly enough to leave you dry... in my opinion.12:06
moetunesnewest isn't always best...12:06
collabraliquidat: 10.10 is a piece of sh!t12:06
liquidatcollabra: Well, it worked for me pretty well - and my problems didn't even come up with the regular 10.10, but with a Beta channel.12:07
collabramoetunes: yeah,... we'll the 64 bit edition of 10.10 kubuntu,... is horribly flawed and has no buisness 'acting' as a distro.12:08
moetunescollabra:  this is a family friendly channel12:08
collabrathe 32 bit version isn't much better12:08
collabrathese 'developers' really ought to feign a few weeks of debugging before a release,...12:10
collabra10.10 is a disaster12:10
Picicollabra: Do you actually have a support question?12:10
collabraPici: yeah,... when will 10.10 64 bit actually run on my computer?12:11
collabrastable,...and with little trouble.?12:11
Picicollabra: I don't know, I don't see that you've explained any issues that you've been having.12:11
moetunescollabra:  you can return it and get your money back if you want12:12
collabraPici: I've already explained my issues,... and the answer is NEVER will 10.10 run on my computer...:)12:12
collabraI haven't the patience for all the bugs....12:13
Picicollabra: This isn't the 'Lets complain about K/Ubuntu channel'12:13
collabraPici: NO,..and i'm not treating the channel as such,... but yes, i do have some residual anger for kubuntu 10.10 wasting my time.12:14
moetunescollabra:  I'm sorry it isn't working for you - have you filed bug reports?12:15
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collabramoetunes: i really haven't bothered with bug reports,... i need a computer that works,... i don't have time to submit bug reports that they'll get to a week or two later.12:18
moetunescollabra:  sorry but every now and again these things happen with the latest releases, it is a process that will always need fine tuning - newest is not always the best for a production machine]12:20
elimentalIs there a way to configure KDE Netbook to use double click instead on single click to launch apps in Search and launch?12:20
Peace-elimental: of course12:32
Peace-systemsettings12:32
Peace-input stuf12:32
Peace-mouse12:32
FloodBotK1Peace-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.12:32
Peace-2 click instead of one12:33
Peace-i guess12:33
elimentalPeace-:  thanx I also thought so, doesnt work12:34
Kalidarnokay i updated, time to try and dist-upgrade i guess12:38
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Riddell4.5.3 out http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.5.312:57
SentynelAnybody know what's going on with the KDE 4.5.3 update in kubuntu-ppa? An announcement about it went up a while ago, but half the packages don't seem to be there yet.12:57
RiddellSentynel: this has now been fixed12:57
Riddellsorry for the hassle12:57
Sentynelheh, that was good timing12:57
gunsofbrixtonare there 4.5.3 packages for kubuntu 10.04?13:00
BluesKajhiyas13:00
zegenie_gunsofbrixton: no, only 10.1013:04
zegenie_4.5.2 and 4.5.3 are 10.10 only13:04
gunsofbrixtonzegenie_: ok coll tnx13:04
gunsofbrixton*cool13:04
moetunes10.04 used to have 4.5.2 ppa didn't it?13:20
xyvhello13:23
moetuneshello13:24
BluesKajmoetunes, yes , the ppas I added were kubuntu-ppa/backports and kubuntu-ppa13:24
xyvI am not able to connect to my wifi network .(knetworkmanager) It is detecting the card and I am feeding the right info!13:25
xyvI not having this problem with nm applet13:25
xyvcan anyone tell me why ,please?13:25
moetunesBluesKaj:  so folk using the lts still have access to 4.5.2 then great I'll remember that - it gets asked from time to time thnx13:26
BluesKajxyv, have you checked the settings ..I have to ask13:26
xyvyep mine is wep , open system with passphrase13:27
xyvi am not having this problem with nm applet13:27
BluesKajmoetunes, sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports && sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa13:27
moetunesthnxs BluesKaj13:28
huca2can someone help me with a problem since uprgradeing from 10.4 to 10.10?13:28
xyvi even checked my router to ensure that my passphrase was correct13:28
moetunesadded to my list of well used links :)13:28
BluesKajmoetunes, then  uou'll have to update of course13:29
moetunesBluesKaj: yep :) - I don't use kde - just for those that ask13:29
huca2anyone know why since upgrading to 10.10 i now have no privilages to do anything?13:30
BluesKajxyv, nm applet and knetwork manager are very similar , if you still have gnome on youre pc then use nm13:30
huca2i cant make any changes even when running a file manager in root13:31
xyvno gnome only kde13:31
BluesKajmoetunes, then you should really be asking in #ubuntu , not here13:31
Sentynelsweet, on kde 4.5.313:32
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xyvhow to get nm applet on kubuntu13:33
huca2......13:33
xyvI guess I will have figure it out , anyways thankyou :)13:36
BluesKajxyv, install network-manager after removing knetworkmanager first ...it used to work13:36
SentynelI use wicd myself; seems to have fewer issues than knetworkmanager13:36
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xyv<BluesKaj>, <Sentynel> ok will try, thankyou for your suggestions13:37
moetunesBluesKaj:  sorry for confusing you - earlier someone asked about 4.5.2 in 10.04 - I was just checking for future reference - I don't use ubuntu anything13:38
BluesKajSentynel, depends on your wifi chip, wicd doesn't work well with some rt drivers13:38
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BluesKajmoetunes, so which desktop environment do you use?13:40
huca2executable files that i once could run with ease in 10.04 wont run in 10.10 and i cant seem to make any changes even running a root console13:40
huca2any ideas?13:40
BluesKajhuca2, how did you upgrade?13:41
huca2exactly how the website told me to13:41
moetunesBluesKaj:  fluxbox on Archlinux - this channel is abondware at times so I help where I can]13:41
huca2with update manager13:42
BluesKajhow many users are registered on the pc , huca2 ?13:42
huca2but when i try to run an exe file it keeps giving me some crap about executable bits  and non trusted sources13:42
huca2only 113:42
huca2me13:42
BluesKajbrb, breakfast13:43
huca2anyone?13:45
moetuneshuca2:  running them in wine of course?13:45
huca2yeah13:46
huca2everything worked flawlessly, untill i upgraded13:46
huca2now i dont have permissions to do anything i want to do13:47
huca2and i cant run exe files without some crap about executable bits coming up13:47
huca2it even tells e i have limited permissions when i log onto the system and that i cant save any changes lol13:47
BluesKajhuca2, try sudo chmod +x ~/home13:48
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BluesKaj huca2, if you're running windows executables in wine then you need purge wine and reinstall it ..the permissions are obviously not transferred. I assumed you were talking about linux apps permissions which are sometimes referred to as executables as well13:59
bzstevensls14:01
bzstevens大家好14:01
moetunes!cn14:01
ubottuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk14:01
moetunesor is that japanese - I am semi illiterate14:02
Sentynelmoetunes: it's chinese for "hello everybody", and he's already gone14:02
moetunesSentynel:  thnx - I have join/parts turned off here14:04
huca2i can run windows executeables in wine,  as long as they are in my wine c drive,  it will not let me run them from any other area ( like my windows drive)   without telling me it has no executeable bit,  and using a root file manager it will not let me "allow the file to be run as an executeable"  and even when i log in it tells me right off the bat i have limited privilages and cant make or save any changes14:04
moetuneshuca2:  that is prob a question for the wine channel14:06
moetunes!wine14:06
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu14:06
BluesKajhuca2, I think you have to go into the windows drive to make sure the permissions are recreated ,, windows sees the hew Linux OS as a new user without permissions14:07
huca2and what if it was doing the same thing on say a cd?14:08
huca2or a usb stick?14:08
Sentynelhuca2: have you tried just chmod +x on the windows exes you're trying to run?14:09
huca2im sorry i am fairly new to linux but in 10.04 everything was so simple to get working, then i upgrade to 10.10 and i cant do squat lol14:09
huca2no14:09
huca2i will try that tho once im at my linux pc14:09
BluesKajhuca2, if you wan to run windows apps , run them in windows or find the linux equivalent or version14:10
Sentynelyou ought to also be able to start windows exes that aren't chmodded with wine program.exe14:11
huca2i dont want to run windows and i know its possible to do lucid had no problems with this14:11
huca2but every documentation ive read is basically saying that in 10.10 you cannot run anything that didnt come from a trusted source and ther is apparently no way around that which i think is worse than windows,  at least windows gives you the option to run it anyway14:12
huca2all in an effort to protect against malware lol14:13
BluesKajhuca2, then run the apps in windows , are they games ?14:13
huca2some are some arent14:13
SentynelI'm pretty sure that's nonsense... wine works fine in 10.10 for me14:14
huca2are you running files that arent in your wine drive?14:14
Sentynelyes14:14
huca2did you upgrade from 10.04 or clean install14:15
Kalidarnhmm anyone able to print in okular?14:15
Sentynelupgrade14:15
huca2then wtf14:15
Kalidarni can print from say kate but i can't print from okular14:15
huca2its not like id come here and just start lying lol14:15
BluesKajSentynel, he's not on kubuntu , he's runnining archlinux ...I think the permission system is different14:15
Kalidarnit's rather annoying :(14:15
huca2no14:15
huca2im on kubuntu14:15
Sentynelif he was on arch what exactly would he be doing in #kubuntu...14:15
huca2lol14:15
BluesKajjust a while ago you said you were on archlinux14:15
huca2no i didnt that was someone else14:16
BluesKajoops :)14:16
huca2lol14:16
huca2so is it possible something got screwed during the update14:16
Sentynelanyway my guess is that the wine program loader's started enforcing that windows exes are chmod +x in order to run them14:16
Peace-Kalidarn: mm nice checck if you have some problem on the printer14:17
Peace-:)=14:17
huca2so how should i fix my whole problem14:17
huca2just chmod everything to +x14:17
KalidarnPeace-: from what ive read there's heaps of problems printing from a pdf in okular14:17
Sentynelchmod any windows execs yeah14:17
wilharthey my kdm and gdm doenst have my KDE4 in it! session!14:17
wilhartwhy not?14:17
Kalidarnhttp://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3106402.0 tried that and it didn't work :P14:18
wilharti'm stuck with gnome :P14:18
BluesKajwell, I suggested chmod +x ~/home \14:18
huca2ok well i will try that14:18
Kalidarnsomeone here said in bug 471738 that they couldn't get okular to work either14:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 471738 in cups (Ubuntu) "client-error-bad-request printing _any_ PDF from any program" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/47173814:18
huca2but is that not the same as changing permission of a file using a root filemanager?14:18
wilharthmm14:18
Sentynelyou shouldn't need root to chmod files in your home dir14:18
BluesKajwilhart, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop14:18
Kalidarnhttp://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-help-here/applications/405026-printing-problems-okular.html im not sure if it's still broken14:18
wilhartBluesKaj, yea i did dist-upgrade noticed there was packages not installed!!14:19
huca2but thats the thing, the file im running is not in my home dir14:19
huca2its on my windows drive14:19
Sentynelhm14:19
Sentynelinteresting14:19
Sentynelntfs right?14:19
huca2yep14:19
BluesKajSentynel, agreed but ....wwhat else is there14:19
wilhartBluesKaj, heh kde 4.5.3 had some issues in the morning they fiexd it!14:19
Sentynelbecause windows file systems don't *have* permissions14:19
Sentyneleverything's treated as chmod +77714:20
Sentyneler, chmod 77714:20
BluesKajSentynel, the users have permissions on windows files14:20
BluesKajanyway , I still think he needs to purge wine and reinstall it14:21
Sentynelyeah I'd try purging wine first14:21
Sentyneland install it from wine's ppa if it isn't already14:21
huca2but why would 10.04 have no issues with this but 10.10 does ?14:21
huca2ok so remove and reinstall wine then14:22
huca2ill try that14:22
BluesKajhuca2, dunno14:22
SentynelI think something might have screwed up with your upgrade14:22
BluesKajI don't use upgrade manager , the cli is best IMO14:22
Sentynelif just purging and reinstalling wine doesn't work try booting off a 10.10 liveusb or something... if that behaves itself you may need to reinstall the os14:22
SentynelBluesKaj: well the command line upgrade and the gui are the same program with a different frontend14:23
BluesKajyes Sentynel I'm aware of that but why bother with a clunky front end gui14:23
Sentynelit's entirely irrelevant whether you use it or not14:24
Sentynelone gives you buttons to press on the screen, the other on the keyboard14:24
huca2ok i jsut read something on a forums of a guy with the exact same problem14:24
huca2and hes pretty sure it has something to do with permissions of the drive itself14:25
Sentyneloh14:25
Sentynelthis rings a bell14:25
Sentynelcan you open fstab?14:25
huca2like its being mounted with noexec14:25
Sentynelyeah14:25
SentynelI had a similar issue a few years back thinking about it14:25
SentynelUUID=6C105FE9105FB932       /media/disk     ntfs    auto,exec,rw,suid    0   014:25
Sentynelthat's my fstab line for my windows drive14:26
huca2apparently if he copies the file in question to his desktoop he can make it executable, if he copies it back the execute bit goes away etc.14:26
huca2hmm14:26
huca2ok14:26
huca2dammit i wish i was at home so i coudl try it, but at least now i have a good idea what the problem is14:26
huca2unless of course my line looks the same lol14:26
Sentyneldo sudo nano /etc/fstab and add ,exec,rw to the line for your windows drive14:27
huca2so to be sure,  10.04 might have had exec in the fstab for my win drive but when i upgraded to 10.10 it made a new fstab??14:27
Sentynelswap nano for your text editor of choice if preferred14:27
SentynelI'd guess something like that happened yeah14:27
huca2ok14:27
huca2thanks for your help14:28
Sentynelif you've edited conf files manually it'll keep them, but if they're autogenerated it can change them which can occasionally have interesting results14:28
huca2right14:28
BluesKajirrelavent eh, launchpad has alot of bugs related to the so called update manager , Sentynel14:29
huca2so any idea on my other problem,  why kde is telling me i have no privilages when i log on??14:29
Sentynelhuca2: I'd look at the permission modes and ownership for your dir in /home14:30
BluesKajhuca2, when you upgraded were you asked for a pw / username , do you recall ?14:31
Sentynelif it's somehow not owned by your user or you haven't got +rw on all files and +x on directories, that could be causing the issues14:32
huca2no the uprgade didnt askk me for credentials14:34
huca2ok so the suggestion of chmod ~/home +x would maybe fix it then?14:35
Sentynelhuca2: not exactly; ~ points to /home/youruser so there won't be a ~/home14:36
Sentynelbut the sentiment may be in the right place, if /home/youruser isn't chmod +x14:36
SentynelI assume that was a typo14:36
huca2yeah im not a whiz with the commands, im logging this so i can refer to it when i get to my pc14:37
Sentyneland no, upgrade doesn't ask for credentials as part of the upgrade process, it doesn't change anything like that14:37
SentynelBluesKaj: it doesn't matter whether you're using the graphical or cli frontend to do-release-upgrade, you'll get the same bugs 'cos it's the same program...14:38
BluesKajwell, I guees we have to agree to disagree, , Sentynel14:40
geekosopheryay! got 4.5.3 \0/14:40
BluesKajgeekosopher, yeah I beleive it came down the pipe today , if you have the ppas14:41
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EvilRoeyHello!14:43
EvilRoeyhi,..  do I need nspluginwrapper 1.2.2-0ubuntu7 to view Flash on my x86_64 system?  I keep seeing npviewer.bin pegging my CPU at a stupidly high rate14:43
BluesKajanyway, stuff to do ...no rest eve in retirement14:43
BluesKajeven14:43
sresuPlasma error: http://pastebin.com/8iXQkVDj How to fix it?14:44
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SentynelEvilRoey: nspluginwrapper is what allows i386 netscape plugins to be run on x6414:45
Sentynelthe cpu usage you're seeing is just flash being a cpu hog14:46
EvilRoeySentynel:  aye14:46
EvilRoeySentynel:  issuing "killall npviewer.bin" seems to solve that for me (just have to do it every half an hour :P)14:47
Sentynelhm, you've got a glitch somewhere if that's still running after any flash plugins have gone away14:48
EvilRoeySentynel:  is Flash's behavior the result of accumulated memory leaks?14:48
EvilRoeySentynel:  I kill Flash and then continue browsing, so I only assume some page starts it back up.14:48
SentynelEvilRoey: might be worth using a fx addon like noscript to block unwanted flash plugins starting up14:49
EvilRoeySentynel:  I use this at work, in fact ;)  Normally though I use Chromium-browser, for which I could not find a NoScript extension14:50
SentynelEvilRoey: yeah, there isn't one; one of the reasons I don't use chromium more14:50
moetunesnoscript ftw14:50
EvilRoeyahhh14:50
EvilRoeyhey moetunes14:50
Sentynelafaik it's a limitation of the chromium plugin architecture14:50
EvilRoeyI love how chromium's windows pop up instantly14:51
moetuneshey there EvilRoey14:51
EvilRoeywish Fx did that14:51
Sentynelyeah I use chromium if I need to check something quickly or whatever14:51
EvilRoeySentynel:  really? I thought it's political14:51
Sentynelbut for regular browsing firefox and a suite of addons is where it's at14:51
EvilRoeylike, on /any/ machine I've seen, it takes > 2 seconds to open Fx from a cold start14:51
EvilRoeylike14:51
EvilRoeywithout having any other Fx processes running14:52
Sentynelwell, you may speculate on political reasons for chrome's extensions not being able to block flash plugins and stuff all you like14:52
EvilRoeyok14:52
Sentynelpersonally, yes, I think it's because google is an advertising company14:52
Sentynelbut whatever the reasons it can't be done14:52
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SCWLstmpoops for autojoin, see you all later.15:46
BenPAhi all ... looking for a program to install on a dual boot Linux/Windows like smb4k so that a non computer type can access window files15:48
KukuNutKubuntu Lucid 10.04 LTS didn't get the 4.5.2 and  4.5.3 either.  :(15:49
KukuNutso what does Kubuntu LTS means?15:50
tsimpson|n800BenPA: you should use the "Network" entry in dolphin15:52
tsimpson|n800!lts | KukuNut15:52
ubottuKukuNut: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04)15:52
alvinIf I'm not mistaken, supported is mainly about security updates. KDE 4.5.x are bug fixes, but not security related.15:53
KukuNutlol  Kubuntu 10.04 is not even a year and no longer gets updates15:53
macobugfixes go in15:54
macobut we don't have clearance (yet, its being worked on) to upload new point releases of kde wholesale15:54
macowe can only take individual patches and backport them15:54
macosecurity and bugfix updates will happen on 10.04 until 2013 for kubuntu though15:55
BenPAtsimpsonjn800: not sure what you mean15:55
alvinOh, that's a pity. I use Kubuntu LTS in the company. One server has 10 users and always several zombie processes (nepomuk) while that bug has been fixed a long time ago, it's not in the official packages.15:55
alvinI have a no-ppa policy on all computers but mine15:56
macodo you know what commit fixed it? it sounds SRU-worthy to me15:56
alvinmaco: Hmm, might be interesting. I'll look the bug up.15:57
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alvinmaco: It's bug 59008816:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 590088 in soprano (Ubuntu) "nepomukservices[2448]: segfaults error 4 in libsoprano.so.4.3.0" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59008816:00
KukuNutmaco: thanks for caring though16:00
LonewulfHi all I am having difficulties installing 10.04 on a CQ50-110US any one have on of these laptops?16:10
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kotsoshi there i am new16:21
LonewulfHi welcome.16:21
kotsoscan i get some help with dual booting win 7 and ubuntu16:21
kotsos:)16:21
LonewulfI can try. What is the problem16:22
kotsosfirst there is no problem16:22
kotsosi just wanna change the boot options16:22
LonewulfOh Ok16:22
LonewulfHow do you want to change them?16:23
DarthFrogWhat options?  Check /etc/default/grub to see what's set.16:23
kotsosi wanna have win 7 as the default option16:23
kotsoswhen booting and not last16:23
LonewulfOh one sec i can find that out..16:23
DarthFrogYeah, that's set in /etc/default/grub.16:23
LonewulfYeah i could not remember that. Also witch version of ubuntu?16:24
DarthFrogMine is set to GRUB_DEFAULT=016:24
kotsosthat would be 10.04 x8616:25
kotsoshad a little problem with the 64 bit16:25
LonewulfYeah if it is set to GRUB_DEFAULT=0 it should boot into windows by default.16:26
kotsosmine is 0 as well16:26
LonewulfWhat problem with the x64.16:26
DarthFrogChange the "0" to whatever order Win7 is presented in.  i.e. if Win7 is the 4th option in the GRUB screen when booting, change "0" to "3" for Win7 to be the default.16:26
kotsosbut boots ubuntu first16:26
kotsosSimplescalar wasnt working16:26
kotsosthanks!16:26
DarthFrogkotsos: After editing that file, you have to run "update-grub" before it'll take effect.16:27
kotsosdo i change the backround image here too?16:27
LonewulfOh. DeathFrog is right. I use vista and i was able to set my default to boot vista first. I think it might be differnent with 7.16:27
DarthFrogkotsos: Probably but I don't see an option for it.16:28
LonewulfNo to change you "bootsplash" you need a program like BUM or some such.16:28
kotsosi ll google that bum thing then16:29
DarthFrogLonewulf: I don't think he's talking about bootsplash, rather the background for the GRUB menu.16:29
kotsosthanks guys!16:29
LonewulfOh i think it can change that to.16:29
xyvhello16:30
LonewulfBUM stands for Boot Up Manager. FYI16:30
kotsosactually i wanna change the screen where i choose what to boot16:30
LonewulfYeah i am pretty sure BUM can do that. Are you using Kubuntu or Ubuntu?16:31
kotsosubuntu (tried the kde but i didnt really like it so i unistalled it after half an hour of use)16:32
LonewulfOh I was wondering because KDE has a progam built in by default to do that.16:35
DarthFrogWhat didn't you like about Kubuntu?16:35
kotsosi tried only kde (downloaded the package)  i use ubuntu16:36
kotsosbut it just didnt feel right16:36
kotsosi like gnome better- seems like better working to me anyway16:37
LonewulfCant get my Nvidia 8200M G graphics card to work right.16:38
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LonewulfWill not do screen affects.16:39
DarthFrogWhich driver are you using?  /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell you what's being loaded.16:40
kotsosthanks everybody16:40
kotsosbye!16:40
LonewulfWell i dont have it installed right now but when i did it said something about nouvea...What ever that is.16:42
DarthFrogThat's probably the issue.  Nouveau isn't quite ready for prime-time yet, I gather.16:43
LonewulfWell i tryed installing the Nvidia driver but that didnt work.16:43
DarthFrogNouveau is open-source Nvidia 3D driver.16:43
DarthFrogThere are more than one Nvidia 3D driver.  Try 'em all, they're cheap. :-)16:44
LonewulfI even tryd the driver from the nvidia site16:44
DarthFrogOh, and they come with a money-back guarantee. :-)16:44
Lonewulfalso my Atheros 5007 wifi card does not work.16:45
Peace-Lonewulf: ?16:46
LonewulfYes.16:46
Peace-ok atheros i can help you16:46
LonewulfCool16:46
Peace-iwconfig16:46
Peace-in the terminal16:46
Peace-!paste16:46
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.16:46
Lonewulfyeah it said ath5k but it will not so any networks. Or even give me the optoin to turn the thing on.16:47
Peace-Lonewulf: iwconfig16:48
Peace-please16:48
Peace-give me the ouput16:48
LonewulfWell  i am trying to trouble shoot it now so i can install Kubuntu. i am in vista right now.16:48
Peace-well16:49
Peace-the issue about your card is this16:49
Peace-rebooting ath5k driver doesn't reset well your card16:49
Peace-so after that you can't use it16:49
Peace-the trick is this16:49
Peace-turn off your computer16:49
Peace-unplug the voltage16:49
Peace-click on power button16:50
Peace-10 second16:50
Peace-plug the voltage16:50
Peace-start the pc16:50
FloodBotK1Peace-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.16:50
Peace-that to use ath5k16:50
Peace-if you are bored about that you can use another driver16:50
Peace-madwifi16:50
LonewulfOk I will trye that16:50
Peace-Lonewulf: you can find the stuff in my blog16:51
LonewulfWhat is the adress.16:51
Peace-Lonewulf: this is my card atheros 5006 but it shoudl be the same for yours16:51
Peace-Lonewulf: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2009/05/06/kubuntu-904-atheros-communications-inc-ar242x-80211abg-wireless-pci-express-adapter-rev-01/16:51
Peace-xD it's sound crazy but i use ath5k driver xD16:52
DarthFrog!nouveau | Lonewulf16:52
ubottuLonewulf: nouveau is an open-source nvidia driver included by default in 10.04. Currently 3D rendering is unsupported. More information can be found in http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/ - See also !nvidia16:52
DarthFrogLonewulf: Also, why are you installing 10.04?  10.10 is the current version.16:53
Peace-DarthFrog: well 10.04 it's a bit more stable to me16:54
Peace-.16:54
Peace-and supported for 3 years16:54
LonewulfYeah that is true.16:55
DarthFrogPeace-: Good reasons.  But I was wondering why Lonewuld was installing that version, if it's causing him trouble.16:55
Peace-wifi atheros is very evil to me16:56
LonewulfBecause it seems to be persistant even in 10.1016:56
Peace-never worked  well16:56
Peace-infact...16:56
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DarthFrogYeah, 10.04 is LTS so if the atheros bug is fixed, it should be back-ported to Lucid.16:56
LonewulfYeah i thought of that.. I could not find it in the backports.16:57
LonewulfI am almost tempted to stick with Wnblows Vista16:58
DarthFrogLonewulf: An OS is a tool, not a religious choice. :-)  Use what works for you.16:59
LonewulfThis is true but i am way more comfortable in Ubuntu or Kubuntu.16:59
LonewulfI am not so worried about viruses.17:00
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DarthFrogWell, you've been given the work-arounds for both your issues with Kubuntu.17:03
LonewulfYeah now i just need to try them. good bye all.17:03
DarthFrogHave fun.17:04
plan_richwhen i try to activate the additional desktop effects of kde, kwin claims that it cannot enable any of the default desktop effects? also i cannot find any desktopeffects listed. how would i enable these effects?17:08
snarksterwhats this i hear about no kubuntu next release?17:08
jussisnarkster: not true.17:09
snarksterok cool17:09
snarksterjust saw that in the ubuntu channel17:09
wilkie_catI have installed Ubuntu-Desktop on top of Kubuntu. Do I need to keep it? Or can I uninstall it?17:10
snarksterim trying to dd a 160gb hd to an img, but keep ending up with only 210mb. can anyone explain why that is happening17:11
Space_Manwilkie_cat: I would uninstall ubuntu-desktop it's not needed17:11
wilkie_catThe package manager tells you not to uninstall Ubuntu Desktop.17:12
Space_Manoh well17:13
Space_Manit may be a ubuntu package manager which is deliberately misleading you :P17:14
Space_Mansome kind of fifth columnist17:15
snnhi have a problem with my flash17:18
snndisk17:18
wilkie_catI can't get mobile broadband to work. The device is recognized and it all appears to connect, but I cannot access the Internet. I am at present using the machine by connecting it via Ethernet to another machine. Any ideas?17:19
snnis linux have a program like EAsus data recovery ?17:19
snnor data recovery tool ?17:19
DarthFrog!purekde | wilkie_cat17:27
ubottuwilkie_cat: If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »17:27
dmattsnn: start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery17:28
wilkie_catYes ubottu, got that!17:28
Peace-dmatt: xD17:32
Lars_GAh so good I can finally ask 10.10 stuff here...18:15
Lars_GQuestion, KDE's power off toolbar icon let's me only "log out" while in gnome and xfce I can log out, reboot, power off or suspend... where can I activate all other options for kde too?18:15
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Tm_TLars_G: using kdm or gdm?18:16
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Lars_GTm_T: gdm18:19
Tm_Tthat might explain, try kdm18:19
Lars_GI'll try.18:22
IncarusHi. Kubuntu guys shipped a wrong update D:18:28
Incarushttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/61586518:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 615865 in Kubuntu PPA "Blackscreen after login, after update to kde 4.5" [Undecided,Confirmed]18:30
rrhhello18:38
rrhi've got problems after upgrade to 4.5.318:39
rrhsystem stalls at kdm18:39
Incarusrrh, known problem: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/61586518:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 615865 in Kubuntu PPA "Blackscreen after login, after update to kde 4.5" [Undecided,Confirmed]18:39
Incarususe "sudo apt-get update", then "sudo apt-get upgrade" and then: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"18:40
Incarusbrb, reboot ;D18:41
rrhIncarus: let me see :)18:41
rrhIncarus: man, you've saved my nerves. Thanks :)18:45
bigbrovarHi guys earlier this morning when packages for kde 4.5.3 was released for kubuntu 10.10 there were some dependencies issues which caused upgrading to do bad things to a kubuntu installation. has things been sorted out now?18:46
bigbrovarhas anyone been able to successfully upgrade to kde 4.5.3 without any issue what so ever?18:46
rrhbigbrovar yes18:47
geekosopherbigbrovar: yes... it is good now18:47
geekosopherbigbrovar: i upgraded to 4.5.3 about an hour ago18:48
Incarusrrh, re. fixed?18:49
bigbrovargreat so em hope all is well? my particular concern is with nepomuk / strigi dolphin searching functionality which I rely on alot but which can be very very unstable and seems to hate upgrades :(18:49
geekosopherbigbrovar: that doesn't sound like packaging issue but a software issue18:51
geekosopherbigbrovar: you would like to read the release notes and changelog to see if these packages have any changes18:51
bigbrovaru mean the nepomuk instability issue? well it really makes no different with me anyway :)18:51
bigbrovarI always read the release notes. usually issues like that are always associated with regressions than anything and are not likely included in the release notes18:52
geekosopherbigbrovar: likely disadvantages of living on the cutting edge? :P18:54
bigbrovaru can say that again18:55
wilharthmm all my programs open in display 2 !! where was this check box?19:35
reeppeephi guys, something's been bothering me but i can't seem to figure it out. how do i disable the switching from one workpace to another by scrolling with the mouse on the desktop. gets quite annoying with a ouchpad19:39
wilhartanyone?19:43
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bhkf_i am unable to find xchat20:34
wilhartemm, where do i enable autologin from gdm20:42
wilhartot kdm20:42
Space_Manbhkf_: sudo apt-get install xchat should install it20:42
wilharti want this to autologin20:42
Space_Manif you can't find the shortcut, open the konsole and type xchat to launch it20:43
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skafti_hey how do i open a hd which was on ntfs system }20:45
skafti_did not do safe remove drive20:45
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skafti_so kubuntu wont open it20:45
skafti_someone20:46
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wilharthow do i auto-login kdm20:49
d_edwilhart: systemsettings->Login Screen->Convenience20:52
microclusterhallo,waht about frequently freeze of kubuntu20:54
d_edskafti_: sorry, what's the issue?20:57
wilhartd_ed, works20:58
skafti_cant open usb (ntfs mounted) hd20:59
d_edok, how are you trying to mount it? What happens when you do it?21:00
skafti_just get warning could not set locale to.....EXT21:04
lonewulfHello evryone my WiFi will not work need help it is supposed to use ath5k but i get nothing.21:04
skafti_I just tryed to open it like a normal drive21:04
skafti_i really suck at this....21:04
lonewulfDarthFrog I am in my Kubuntu 10.10 and this is the output of wiconfig lo        no wireless extensions.21:05
lonewulfeth0      no wireless extensions.21:05
lonewulfwlan1     IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:off/any21:05
lonewulf          Mode:Managed  Access Point: Not-Associated   Tx-Power=off21:05
lonewulf          Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off21:05
FloodBotK1lonewulf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.21:05
lonewulf          Encryption key:off21:05
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lonewulfMy WiFi will not work this is from wiconfig http://paste.ubuntu.com/525966/ any ideas.21:09
huca2how do i find the uuid of a partition?21:14
turboshieldhuca2 what?21:14
turboshielduuid ??? may be rfid?21:15
huca2im tryng to add an ntfs partition to my fstab21:15
huca2any help would be great21:15
lonewulfNeed help with Atheros AR500721:15
wilhartmy smplayer has transparent window and video is running? hm21:24
nuschhuca2: blkid21:26
nuschin command line21:26
huca2yeah ive done that now im having a new problem21:30
huca2i want my drive to be called windows 7   not windows7  and fstab wont let me use spaces in the the mount point name21:30
huca2how is ubuntu auto mounting my drives by default?  because there was no entry for that partition in my fstab21:31
huca2and when ubuntu automounts it i have no execute permissions21:31
huca2am i going about this the wrong way or is there a better way than fstab to get exec permissions?21:31
microclusterhallo freinds, something about kubuntu freeze on notebook?21:53
Chat5981wine is better witH directX?22:05
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User2I'm looking for help with trouble I have an occasional pc crash22:37
lonewulfCan anyone help with Atheros 5007 driver Not functioning.22:46
frogonwheelslonewulf: Is that a wireless-N car?22:46
frogonwheelscard?22:46
lonewulfNo it is a built in b/g card22:47
microclustersomeone knows something about kubuntu freeze?22:47
lonewulf<microcluster> What kind of freezing?22:48
dmattmicrocluster: mine does not freeze22:48
lonewulfmicrcluster If you meen freezing during boot it could be an incompatabale graphics card.22:51
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