[00:01] 3.1.6 [00:02] this is the version [00:02] hrm, you are using an older version, the latest out is 3.2 [00:02] i suggest removing and installing the update version, you can save your vm's harddrives for use with the new install [00:03] removing the Vm is obligatarry [00:03] ? [00:04] or optionnal [00:04] bella-t: you can just save the harddrive and recreate the vm itself and use the old vm's hard drive for the new vm [00:05] and the data will be saved of course [00:06] do you know the command to save the VM [00:06] ? [00:06] plz [00:06] yes, are you aware of how to save the vm drive? [00:06] oh hehe [00:06] you using cli or graphical? [00:07] what is cli? [00:07] command line interface [00:07] some times i use CLI [00:08] and about the saving of VM i've no idea about it [00:09] bella-t: open your home directory [00:09] done [00:10] then? [00:10] open your .vbox dir [00:10] .Virtualbox [00:11] there is no such dir [00:11] have you viewed the hidden directorys [00:11] hit: Ctrl+h [00:12] ok [00:12] then [00:13] you should see a hard drives folder or machines folder [00:13] yes [00:13] hardDisks and Machine [00:13] hard drive folder? [00:14] in the hard disk folder you should see your vm disk [00:14] windowsxp.vdi [00:14] yep thats the one...feel free to copy that somewhere maybe to your desktop [00:15] ok [00:16] thank you veryyy much [00:16] you will have to install vbox from the website [00:17] then the problem will vanish ? [00:17] bella-t: if you really are overly-cautious you can even backup your machine out of the machines folder to your desktop [00:17] bella-t: yes the problem should be gone [00:17] I'am coping all the di .Virtualbox [00:18] to my DD [00:18] lol well that will do the trick also [00:18] hhh [00:18] o_O [00:19] ?? [00:19] you know how to install from website? [00:20] Hi folks, Is it possible to install ubunut on an external HDD, THEN take that hdd to "my gandfathers PC" and plug it in, SO his PC has Ubuntu? OR do I need his PC connected to the HDD while installing. He lifes in another city and I would like to send the "ready to go" HDD to him. So he does not have to do anything BUT plug it an and boot. ?? If so...how can I do that? [00:20] bella-t: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads [00:20] thnk you [00:21] every version has its specefic file to download [00:22] latenite: hey if you install ubuntu to a external harddrive than you will be able to plug in the ext to the "new" computer and ubuntu will boot if you boot to the external drive [00:23] latenite: i tried that before some time ago and i think the only issue i had was the graphics driver [00:23] stlsaint, how would I make sure all his hardware is supported? he s a printer and webcam...und stuff? How do I install it to my external HDD? All i did do far is mount it. [00:24] latenite: just point ubiquity to the external drive [00:25] latenite: hrm with all those extra drivers i would suggest you have the system sent to you and you install it (if thats possible) [00:25] stlsaint, ubiquity??? I run gentoo here and just pluged in HIS external HDD...what would be next? shall I donwload the iso? [00:25] well yea you will need the ubuntu iso [00:25] bella-t: everything going well? [00:26] stlsaint, no cant do taht...is s liek a suprise ... I want to send it to him and suprise him with his NEW linx [00:26] *linux [00:26] stlsaint, and what do I do with the iso? unpack it and dd it the drive? [00:26] yes [00:27] 'im installig virtualbox [00:27] sorry [00:27] why dd? [00:27] downoading vb [00:27] latenite: you will have to burn the iso to a cd and install it to the hard drive [00:27] and copying the dir [00:29] stlsaint, so I would have to shoutr down my system...bozzt the cd and select the external HDD? is there a way doinf the install FROM WITHIN my running gentoo? [00:29] latenite: from what i know, no...that is not possible [00:30] collinp: ping [00:30] I know it can be done with debina and a chroot+debootstrap..is there anything like that? [00:30] Yo. [00:31] collinp: is it possible to install ubuntu to a external drive without booting into the livecd (only thing i can think of is something with wubi) [00:31] latenite: you want to chroot? [00:31] It's certainly possible, but fairly difficult to do. [00:32] collinp: i have never done nor seen it done so i have no idea of how to [00:32] latenite: a chroot wouldnt install to a drive (i dont think) [00:32] In essence, it's not feasible. [00:32] i didnt think so [00:32] collinp, that s ok? would you tell me how?...just the idea of it? In general I nstall gentoo like taht: make a chroot-> mounf hdd-> copy system tree-> install grub-> DONE [00:34] Gentoo and Debian are two different beasts. I have never really gotten deep into the installation process, but I think it's something along the lines of: The installer lays the foundation (kernel and apt), then goes and installs the packages that go into the system. [00:34] Or I could be completely wrong. I've never had to go and install Ubuntu to a system without shutting down and using the livecd. [00:35] I'm at least fairly sure that the CD does not ship binary files explicitly, but they are packaged in .deb files that have to be installed onto the base system. [00:35] nor have i ever installed without livecd [00:35] latenite: tbh in your case google would probably be your best bet [00:36] Let me go find one of my Ubuntu CDs. [00:36] collinp, well imagine a remote sever...You wouldn't have a chance to put a live CD into it...All you have is ssh into SOME sort of live system...you know? [00:36] You deploy remote systems differently than a normal desktop/laptop system. [00:37] Often with imaging, which is putting a image of an already installed system onto the hard drive. [00:37] collinp, well leaving the "image" idea aside...how would ubuntu be installed remotely? [00:37] i'll reboot my system [00:38] Er. [00:38] Yeah. [00:39] You're not copying the CD to the hard drive, because everything is packaged in .deb files which the installer installs onto the base system. [00:39] And, to be honest, I don't know of another system used instead of the "image" system for remote deployment. [00:39] Most everything in a rapid-deployment environment is based around images or something very, very similar to it. [00:40] Err, remote-deployment [00:40] Basically, you would have to go and install each and every .deb file - manually - onto a base system on the hard drive. [00:41] If you were doing this from another operating system. [00:42] nhandler: Ping [00:42] collinp, hmm well. I realy "hate" the idea of having to boot the life cd....for the fact that I could ONLY do that by shutting down my box...thats "iiiaks" somehow [00:43] stlsaint, there is a conflit with virtualbox-ose [00:44] while executinng [00:47] a backup of the hole system will solve the problem ? [00:48] Yes collinp ? [00:48] nhandler: Imaging aside, do you know of another method of installing Ubuntu/Debian without booting into the LiveCD environment? [00:48] Er, more specifically, without rebooting from another operating system at all. [00:49] collinp: Without rebooting? You could use wubi or a VM [00:49] I know very little about the subject. latenite was wanting to install Ubuntu without booting out of their Gentoo install. [00:50] collinp: Well, if they want to do a proper installation, they will want to reboot. Partitioning a HD is rather unsafe if the disk is in-use [00:50] collinp, nhandler RIGHT::: I could boot the iso into a kvm vm...and whe done copy all the files to the external hdd? right? or am I off track here? [00:52] collinp, https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/linux-upgrade.html but i think it is a bit outdated [00:52] latenite: It might work, but I have a feeling it probably won't work well [00:52] nhandler, what could go wrong? any forsight ideas? [00:53] latenite: I can't remember, but I thought Ubuntu did some checks for the type of hardware that is being used to try and make sure things work. All of those checks would get messed up [00:54] latenite: So if you go with that approach, you should probably install something like the ubuntu minimum iso and then add the extra packages you need [00:54] nhandler, taht was my question in the first place..since i ONLY have the HDD....that will GO into a box that s not with me. [00:57] bella-t: did you remove the vbox you had on there? [00:58] yes i've deleted it from the logitheque [01:00] I've fogot a packet [01:00] which is related to vm [01:01] that's why the installation was blocked [01:02] a backup is it able to resolve the problem ? [01:03] sudo apt-get -purge remove virtualbox-3.1 [01:03] unless you jsut removed it from synaptic [01:03] bella-t: a backup? [01:03] yes [01:03] have you gotten the new vbox installed with no errors? [01:05] i've installed the new VBox [01:05] but there is an error [01:05] what error? [01:05] driver not installed [01:05] The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv. Please reinstall the kernel module by executing [01:05] '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' [01:05] as root. Users of Ubuntu, Fedora or Mandriva should install the DKMS package first. This package keeps track of Linux kernel changes and recompiles the vboxdrv kernel module if necessary. [01:06] nhandler, ok another VERY differnet approach: I have a usp pendirve with a INSTALLED (no live iso) ubunut on it. I booted my laptop of it and connected the HDD. Now I miss the "install" button that on a regualr liveCD. Is that be found on my realy (non live) system too? [01:09] so in other words. How to install ubuntu FROM ubuntu? [01:15] bella-t: oh have you not installed dkms yet? [01:15] bella-t: sudo apt-get install dkms [01:15] its whats used to build kernel [01:16] they aren't installed [01:17] I've installed it [01:18] latenite, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux#Without%20CD [01:18] and now should I reboot my system ? [01:18] this may be helpful to you [01:18] because the error still there [01:20] szczur, nice thats just waht I want :) cool [01:21] bella-t: sure [01:22] ok [01:25] back [01:26] stlsaint, the problem persist [01:26] Code d'erreur : [01:26] NS_ERROR_FAILURE (0x80004005) [01:26] Composant : [01:26] Machine [01:26] Interface : [01:26] IMachine {6d9212cb-a5c0-48b7-bbc1-3fa2ba2ee6d2} [01:26] Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908) [01:29] bella-t: can you open synaptic package manager and ensure you have removed the ose version of vbox [01:29] ok [01:32] i've verified and there is any other packet installed but virrtualbox-3.2 [01:33] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [01:35] that needs the root privileges? [01:36] Impossible d'ouvrir le fichier verrou /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission non accordée) [01:36] E: Impossible de verrouiller le répertoire d'administration (/var/lib/dpkg/). Avez-vous les privilèges du superutilisateur ? [01:36] bella-t, close synaptic before doing this [01:36] bella-t: close synaptic then run command [01:36] :) [01:37] it is already closed [01:37] run command and enter password [01:37] ok [01:40] same probleme [01:45] what kernel are you usign? [01:45] uname -a [01:46] Linux sghaier 2.6.32-25-generic #45-Ubuntu SMP Sat Oct 16 19:48:22 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux [01:47] bella-t: have you installed the kernel headers? [01:47] linux-libc-dev [01:47] i've taped the command that you gaved to me [01:51] i've installed the headers [01:55] sudo apt-get update [01:56] whats the error again? [01:56] no error [01:56] with the CLI [01:57] whats error for vm? [01:57] VERR_INTNET_FLT_IF_NOT_FOUND [01:59] Failed to open/create the internal network 'HostInterfaceNetworking-pan0' (you might need to modprobe vboxnetflt to make it accessible) (VERR_INTNET_FLT_IF_NOT_FOUND). [01:59] Unknown error creating VM (VERR_INTNET_FLT_IF_NOT_FOUND). [01:59] Code de résultat : [01:59] NS_ERROR_FAILURE (0x80004005) [01:59] Composant : [01:59] Console [01:59] Interface : [01:59] IConsole {6375231a-c17c-464b-92cb-ae9e128d71c3} [02:04] bella-t: this is a continued interface error [02:04] something is still wrong with your interface file i think [02:05] please show me the contents of it: cat /etc/networking/interface [02:05] please show me the contents of it: cat /etc/network/interface [02:05] ok [02:08] auto lo [02:08] iface lo inet loopback [02:08] auto eth2 [02:08] iface eth2 inet dhcp [02:10] if we add auto eth2 vbox to the file [02:11] the problem could be resolved ? [02:17] i dont think so [02:19] ok [02:19] bella-t: did you ever comment out those lines i asked you to? === PabloRubianes_ is now known as PabloRubianes [02:20] i don't undrestand ! [02:21] i've wrote the commends [02:22] because may be i'll need them later [02:22] is that what you're asking for ? [02:26] yes did you have # next to the last entries [02:29] ya these commands were very helpful for me [02:31] i think the key of this problem is to get back the old version of the /etc/network/interfaces === jledbetter_ is now known as jledbetter [02:34] thats why we comment out the lines you entered yourself [02:37] ok [02:37] is it possible to have a backup of a file in such case [02:38] i've commented the lines that i've added now [02:38] to make a copy of it simply use the cp command as so: [02:39] cp /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces.bak (or .old) [02:41] not a copy but i want to know if it is possible to get an older version of a saved file [02:41] not that im aware of...once you change and save it its pretty much a done deal [02:42] ah ok [02:48] bella-t: hrm [02:48] im not sure why your having a interface issue [02:48] why? [02:50] i think that i've used the interface which was allocated to Vbox while modifying the file interfaces [02:51] probably this is the cause no ? [02:51] bella-t: i would suggest posting a thread on the ubuntu forums in the virtualization section for a more global view on your issue [02:52] ok I'll post the problem in the forums but I hope that i'll find the solution [02:52] i do too [02:53] you may be missing some kernel headers or something but i cant be sure [02:53] yep maybe [02:54] thank you so much for all the time you've passed with me trying to find a solution [02:57] bella-t: sorry i could not be of more help [02:57] no problem if I'll find a solution i'll inform you in this channel [02:57] :) [02:58] is it possible to do a sudo cp -R across an sftp link? [02:59] i.e. I want to copy my netbook stuff across to my desktop [02:59] it is saying it can't locate it [03:15] Cheri703: why not use ssh or scp? [03:15] I don't know how to use ssh to copy from one computer to another [03:15] I am working on another way of doing it, so it's not a huge deal [03:15] well how are you trying to do it then? [03:16] oh alright [03:16] afk [05:12] hi guys :) [05:12] just needed help if someone can direct me to a chennel for benchmark software?\ [05:18] mjeamiguel: What kind of benchmarks? [05:18] hi aveilleux.. dhrystone [05:19] I'm just wondering if there are any channels for benchmarking in general [05:20] mjeamiguel: Not that I'm aware of, it seems too much of a niche thing to me [05:20] mjeamiguel: What do you want to know about Dhrystone? [05:21] I just downloaded it, i wanted to know about it in detail [05:21] the white paper online doesnt say much [05:21] mjeamiguel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhrystone [05:21] lol [05:21] mjeamiguel: When in doubt, wiki it! [05:21] hahahah..did that already but thanks [05:21] :) [05:22] do you think phoronix channel might know? [05:22] i mean [05:22] channels [05:23] mjeamiguel: I'm sure they have a better understanding of it than I do. [05:23] aveilleux cool! thanks so much for your help :) [05:23] mjeamiguel: No problem === karthick87 is now known as Guest52352 [07:18] good morning [07:20] good afternoon UndiFineD [08:29] good morning team [08:41] Puck`: Top of the morning to you :D [08:41] why thank you (: [09:08] /27 [10:36] :) [10:42] :/ [10:43] :\ [10:51] wutz so funny? [11:00] The interwebs [11:13] I'm trying to load the netbook version of Ubuntu on to my Acer One Aspire netbook but it won't boot from a USB stick, any ideas? [11:19] andyport: What did you use to make the USB bootable? [11:20] I followed the instructions on the Ubuntu download site [11:20] my problem is that I cannot select to boot from a USB stick on the netbook [11:20] andyport: Check and make sure that booting from USB is enabled in your bios [11:20] bbl, lunch time now ;) hope you get it working [11:28] andyport: when you boot up with the USB plugged in if you hit F12 it should give you a list of devices to boot from correct? [11:29] yes it does but it lists USB DVD drive, USB FDD but not USB stick that I can see [11:29] I tried USB FDD but it didn't work [11:30] Does selecting the USB DVD drive do anything? [11:30] I've tried creating an ISO DVD from the netbook ISO file but that doesn't work either, it talks to the DVD but nothing happens [11:34] andyport: sorry was just checking some forum posts, no one else is mentioning any problems so looking further [11:34] OK thanks [11:35] andyport: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/ubuntu-netbook-remix-acer-aspire-one-netbook there is a section in about the third paragraph about what you need to do in the bios if that helps [11:36] thanks, I'll take look [11:39] is anyone around who can help me out with the Wiki? [11:39] ubuntu Wiki, login problems [11:41] Puck`: I had some a little while ago wasn't sure if it was just me or not, I reset my password and it let me ok then so not sure [11:43] head_victim: my problem is that everytime i need to log in, i have to choose another username, it doesn't let me in with the same one after logging in through launchpad [11:44] Puck`: yeah that's the error it gave me. It asked me for a password to link the accounts but I couldn't get it right. I wasn't sure if it was just me (as I wasn't sure if I'd logged in on this computer before) so I just reset the password and then it worked ok. [11:45] head_victim: but when i want to reset my password, i get to https://launchpad.net/+forgottenpassword, which is a 404 page, page not found .. [11:48] Puck`: https://login.launchpad.net/+forgot_password [11:48] Try that one [11:56] now i'm getting errors [11:56] oh boy :\ [12:01] i had to read ur nick twice :D [12:02] Good luck Puck` I have to head off for a little bit. [12:04] thx head_victim [12:50] Hi all [12:53] sup [12:53] Doing fine, thanks, and you? [12:53] great, though only here for a brief moment [12:53] Tsar_Evitsa: anything you need assitance with? [12:54] I would like to become a developer/more active in the community and I was advised to check out things here first [12:54] So here I am :P [13:00] Tsar_Evitsa: oh awesome [13:00] could someone direct me to the # that covers panel volume control missing? [13:02] Thanks. It's a bit unclear how to get started though. There is a clear guide on how to register and how to install the tools etc, but not really on how to get involved [13:03] Tsar_Evitsa: started in ubuntu dev? [13:03] dog_: you looking to file a bug? [13:04] Yes there, and the group that does the packaging, that's also interesting to me [13:04] I'm not sure. I installed 1004 from factory disk and when I upgraded to 1010, the volume control in the panel disappeared [13:04] Tsar_Evitsa: well we have a -dev channel but its not dedicated to packaging [13:04] Tsar_Evitsa: maybe interested in the MOTU [13:05] dog_: have you tried adding it back through panel options [13:05] Yes, the dev channel I am also already, I'll find more info on MOTU. Thanks [13:05] I didn't see that listed in panel options. what is it called? [13:08] dog_: it's a part of the indicator applet [13:10] OK,head_victim, I found it. I really appreciate the help [13:10] dog_: we do what we can :) [13:11] Actually, I think this may be the ONLY chat I ever got legitimate information from! Ha! :>) [13:12] ...and you do it well. Thanks again. [13:12] No worries mate [13:12] G'day [13:54] I am having trouble installing (or actually rjunning) google earth in Ubuntu 10.10. I followed instructions via http://labtu.blogspot.com/2010/10/how-to-install-google-earth-in-ubuntu.html and it seems to go ok. It installs Google Earth but when I launch it, it opens for a few seconds and then it closes...any ideas/solutions? [13:59] jappie: I'm not 100% certain myself but post #9 of http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1595339 might give you some hints [14:06] it is amazing os!!! [14:06] Goog_Josh: that it is [14:08] I rush to this operating system [14:18] n_n [14:19] u_u [14:19] T_T [14:19] o_o [14:22] ^_^ [14:42] where can i read about hack iis server? [14:50] Goog_Josh: Uhm? What exactly are you looking for? [15:16] time to do some cooking, back in a few hours [15:17] Hi [15:18] sebsebseb: Hi :) [15:19] nlsthzn: hi [15:25] !network [15:25] Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [15:26] !pastebin [15:26] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. === aveilleux is now known as skriptkiddie === skriptkiddie is now known as aveilleux [15:36] Hello. [15:36] 'lo Silver_Fox_ [15:37] Hello Silver_Fox_ [15:51] Whenever I reboot my tower I have to redefine my multimedia keys(i.e. play/pause, vol +/-) in gnome-keybinding-properties. If I don't redefine them, the pc doesn't respond when I press any of the media buttons. Both before and after I redefine them, the entry under "shortcut" is the same for each key(XF86"Something", such as XF86AudioPlay)...is there something I should be doing to 'keep' the keybindings after a reboot? I should note that no [15:52] vu1kan: are you using kubuntu? [15:53] nope, ubuntu 10.04 [15:53] vu1kan: then asking in #ubuntu would be your best bet [15:53] vu1kan: It should save those immediately after setting them. Maybe you don't have write permissions. [15:54] vu1kan, interesting [15:54] i've asked there, with no response...i popped over here while waiting a decent amount of time to repost my q [15:54] vu1kan: In a terminal, does this command output anything? find . ! -user "$USER" -print [15:54] vu1kan, the entry should look like XF86* -- those are the extra keys on the keyboard [15:54] err, find ~ ! -user "$USER" -print [15:55] geirha: it outputs alot [15:56] vu1kan: That means you have files in your homedir which are not owned by you. A typical reason for that is running something as root (with sudo) that shouldn't be run as root. [15:57] geirha, you rock, great call [15:57] vu1kan: If the directories gnome-keyboard-properties need to save to are not owned by you, it won't manage to save those settings. [15:57] most of the files it was returning are from playing around with UCK [15:59] vu1kan: sudo chown -R "$USER:" "$HOME" #should fix that issue. [15:59] paultag: I'm more into jazz actually ;P [15:59] geirha, :) [16:01] oops! my attention was divided between here and tv, didn't notice I was on #ubuntu-beginners, thought that I was on #kubuntu, sorry vu1kan :) [16:02] geirha: it appeared to resolve correctly...i'm gonna reboot and see if it works [16:02] vu1kan: Logging out and back in again should be sufficient to test. [16:02] that's what i ment [16:02] geekosopher, It's OK. No harm no foul [16:02] bad habits left over from windoze === AbhiJit_ is now known as Abhijit === Abhijit is now known as AbhiJit [16:05] geirha: worked like a charm, thanks much [16:06] vu1kan: Great. :) [16:33] Has anyone came across the problem of your wireless interface just disappearing? [17:13] PhantomString, No, I haven't but you might want to try #ubuntu === JoeSett is now known as JoeMaverickSett [18:10] Goodbye. === yofel_ is now known as yofel === Zach is now known as Guest71964 === Guest71964 is now known as zkriesse [20:58] :) === zkriesse_ is now known as zkriesse [21:28] ping nhandler [21:29] nvm [21:29] LOL [21:29] Cheri703: ! [21:29] Cheri703: My mentee! [21:29] hi [21:29] * zkriesse gives Cheri703 a cookie for showing up [21:30] I lurk most evenings :) [21:38] zkriesse, dude, Cheri703 is online almost every day [21:39] where have you been? :) [21:39] * Cheri703 has no life ;) [21:39] Cheri703, shit, thanks a lot, what does that say about me? [21:39] heh, no comment [21:39] paultag: You? + a life? I don't see the connection.... [21:39]