[02:49] <AbhiJit> stlsaint, u thr?
[02:50] <stlsaint> AbhiJit: yes
[02:50] <AbhiJit> stlsaint, i have two wishlists you free to triage them?
[02:51] <stlsaint> AbhiJit: heck yea
[02:51] <AbhiJit> ok
[02:53] <AbhiJit> stlsaint, this is one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avant-window-navigator/+bug/670740
[02:53] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 670740 in avant-window-navigator (Ubuntu) "avant launch new terminal (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[02:59] <AbhiJit> stlsaint, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-applets/+bug/670742
[02:59] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 670742 in gnome-applets (Ubuntu) "sticky notes not hiding on startup (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[03:05] <AbhiJit> stlsaint, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-applets/+bug/670745
[03:05] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 670745 in gnome-applets (Ubuntu) "Shortcut to create new note in sticky note (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[03:11] <AbhiJit> stlsaint, ??
[03:12] <stlsaint> AbhiJit: yep, im checking them out now ;)
[03:12] <AbhiJit> ok
[03:31] <stlsaint> alright, the sticky one is ready to be changed to triage ;)
[03:31] <stlsaint> AbhiJit: ^^
[03:31] <AbhiJit> stlsaint, :)
[03:41] <stlsaint> room poke
[03:42] <AbhiJit> stlsaint, is there any different way to submit papercut or just regular way i.e. ubuntu-bug?
[03:43] <stlsaint> i think there is different way
[03:44] <micahg> AbhiJit: papercuts need to be filed against the ubuntu package and then a task added for the hundred papercuts project
[03:44] <AbhiJit> micahg, i have one papercut bug.
[03:44] <AbhiJit> for lucid.
[03:44] <AbhiJit> micahg, can you please help me submit it?
[03:44] <micahg> AbhiJit: papercuts are only for the devel release
[03:44] <micahg> AbhiJit: you can still file a bug against lucid
[03:44] <AbhiJit> micahg, ohhh. so i should file a normal bug then?
[03:44] <stlsaint> AbhiJit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaperCut#How to report a bug for 100 'paper cuts'
[03:45] <AbhiJit> stlsaint, yah
[03:45] <micahg> AbhiJit: yes
[03:45] <AbhiJit> micahg, ok filing. thanks
[03:45] <AbhiJit> micahg, stlsaint i need your help to decide package. let me tell you whole story
[03:46] <stlsaint> AbhiJit: i will have to do get onto other bug tomorrow but both will be triaged
[03:46] <stlsaint> AbhiJit: thank you very much for letting me work on them
[03:47] <AbhiJit> see this is image http://imagebin.ca/view/64RR8e.html in this image folder 'Dil' is selected' this folder is very last folder in the row. now when i press '->' i.e. right arrow it should go to the first folder of the next row. and as i remember this was happening in previos versio of either ubuntu or gnome or something.
[03:47] <AbhiJit> micahg, stlsaint so which package to submit this bug?
[03:47] <AbhiJit> stlsaint, ok
[03:48] <micahg> AbhiJit: xprop | grep CLASS <-- then click on the window
[03:48] <AbhiJit> micahg, what does it do?
[03:49] <stlsaint> AbhiJit: submitt the bug as usual just add the "hundredpapercuts" to it as shown in wiki
[03:49] <AbhiJit> micahg, abhijit@abhi-laptop:~$ xprop | grep CLASS WM_CLASS(STRING) = "nautilus", "Nautilus"
[03:49] <micahg> AbhiJit: there you go
[03:49] <AbhiJit> micahg, ok.i submig against nautilus. thank you.
[03:49] <AbhiJit> submit*
[03:52] <AbhiJit> micahg, according to papercut definition in a default installation of Latest release of Ubuntu or Kubuntu, Desktop Edition. it means maverick? right?
[03:52] <micahg> AbhiJit: no, issues that will affect Natty
[03:53] <AbhiJit> micahg, ok. stlsaing suggesting to add it to papercut. should i?
[03:53] <micahg> AbhiJit: if it's an issue in maverick still, yes, otherwise, no
[03:54] <AbhiJit> micahg, ok. i dont have maverick to test it. so i submit normal bug.
[03:55] <AbhiJit> micahg, sorry to bother you but i am confused to decide the more accurate title: i write this Folder selection not moving to next row can you please suggest more accurate one?
[03:57] <micahg> AbhiJit: nagivation by arrow not intuitive
[03:57] <micahg> AbhiJit: nagivation by right arrow not intuitive
[03:57] <AbhiJit> micahg, ok
[03:59] <AbhiJit> micahg, bug is already reported and fix is released. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/64289 but i still have the  same problem in my ubuntu. what to do?
[03:59] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 64289 in nautilus (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "right end + right key = next row (dups: 1) (heat: 11)" [Wishlist,Fix released]
[03:59] <micahg> AbhiJit: file a new bug and reference that one
[04:00] <AbhiJit> micahg, ok
[04:03] <AbhiJit> micahg, reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/670761
[04:03] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 670761 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Folder selection not moving to next row (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[04:04] <AbhiJit> ahh title not changed wait
[04:04] <AbhiJit> done
[10:19] <geekosopher> requesting to mark bug 670788 as importance=high
[10:19] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 670788 in kubuntu-ppa "Updating KDE 4.5.1 -> 4.5.3 in Kubuntu 10.10 requires removal of necessary packages (affects: 21) (dups: 2) (heat: 130)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/670788
[10:33] <nigelb> geekosopher: we'd like the kubuntu folks to take a call, just ask in #kubuntu-devel
[10:33] <nigelb> geekosopher: also, its a PPA, so not from the official repos.
[10:36] <geekosopher> nigelb: ok
[12:51] <jibel> Hey pedro, ubuflu tried to catch you ?
[12:54] <pedro_> jibel, hey! i did got me :-/
[12:54] <pedro_> jibel, feeling better today though
[13:00] <xelister> should simple things like "quota" work in ubuntu or what?
[13:00] <xelister> found 2 bugs so far
[13:09] <xelister> ok, quotacheck man page is confusing about the need to use  -F vfsv0 . Can we patch the man page in ubuntu? I can provide English text
[13:29] <AbhiJit> hi
[13:29] <AbhiJit> anyone can please triage this bug?
[13:29] <AbhiJit> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/670761
[13:29] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 670761 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "nagivation by right arrow not intuitive (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Low,New]
[13:31] <AbhiJit> !ping
[13:31] <ubot2> pong
[13:31] <pedro_> AbhiJit, looking
[13:31] <AbhiJit> pedro_, ok
[13:33] <pedro_> AbhiJit, that works fine here with Maverick
[13:33] <pedro_> cannot confirm the issue
[13:33] <AbhiJit> pedro_, its in lucid
[13:33] <pedro_> AbhiJit, please try the same on Maverick
[13:33] <AbhiJit> lucid is lts. i m going to stay with lucid.
[13:33] <AbhiJit> no
[13:34] <AbhiJit> i need it in lucid.
[13:34] <AbhiJit> anyone with lucid can confirm it please?
[13:35] <pedro_> i'm trying on Lucid now
[13:35] <AbhiJit> ohh ok
[13:37] <pedro_> AbhiJit, works fine for me on Lucid as well
[13:37] <AbhiJit> :o
[13:37] <pedro_> AbhiJit, did you tried with a new user created on your system? it could be a problem with your configuration rather than a bug
[13:38] <AbhiJit> pedro_, it was working here too. but since last 3-4 months not working. do you know what this may caused?
[13:38] <AbhiJit> ok
[13:38] <pedro_> AbhiJit, no idea, as said i cannot even reproduce the issue
[13:38] <AbhiJit> i wll try with aother user
[13:38] <AbhiJit> ok
[14:32] <charlie-tca> Good Morning, pedro_
[14:32] <pedro_> hello charlie-tca, how are you?
[14:32] <charlie-tca> Doing great! Thanks. Hope you are feeling better now?
[14:32] <charlie-tca> Are we having a bug day?
[14:33] <pedro_> charlie-tca, yes feeling better, darn ubuflu :-/
[14:33] <pedro_> charlie-tca, i don't see anything planned for today
[14:35] <charlie-tca> Okay. That makes my day easier then. Got more than enough to try and get done here.
[14:45] <JFo> charlie-tca, I know what you mean. :)
[14:46] <geekosopher> would you guys won't laugh if I ask what is ubuflu
[14:47] <hggdh> the UBuntu influenza, which usually hits people coming from UDS
[14:47] <hggdh> actually, most of the times it is the common cold, not a real flu
[14:48] <geekosopher> hggdh: ah, ok :)
[14:48] <hggdh> and no, I did not laugh ;-) hurts to do so
[14:48] <geekosopher> hehe
[14:48] <geekosopher> :D
[14:49] <charlie-tca> hggdh: still feeling it, huh?
[14:49] <hggdh> quite so, charlie-tca
[16:06] <Alexqw> Where should I go or who should I poke to get an update on bug 553415?  There's a fix already available and it's just waiting to be pushed to lucid.
[16:06] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 553415 in xorg-server (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 6 other projects) "mouse trapped in box for Open Motif (affects: 29) (dups: 4) (heat: 146)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/553415
[16:10] <paultag> Alexqw, it looks OK here
[16:10] <paultag> Alexqw, fix released upstream, and imported to Mav, from what I can see
[16:10] <Alexqw> Yes, it is on Maverick, but the bug still affects Lucid.
[16:10] <paultag> Ah, Alexqw -- contact Ubutnu Backports
[16:10] <Alexqw> There's a fix in a ppa, and there was talk of backporting xorg-server 1.7.7 to Lucid.
[16:10] <paultag> Alexqw, head over to -MOTU and ask if someone could take a look at backporting it
[16:11] <bdmurray> paultag: I think this qualifies as an SRU for Lucid
[16:11] <paultag> Alexqw, aye -- it might be a big task
[16:11] <Alexqw> paultag: Ahh, ok.  Thanks
[16:11] <paultag> bdmurray, I think so as well, but I'm not sure
[16:11] <paultag> Alexqw, godspeed!
[16:11] <Alexqw> I'm new to the Ubuntu IRC scebne, where's MOTU?
[16:11] <Alexqw> *scene
[16:11] <paultag> Alexqw, #ubuntu-motu
[16:11] <Alexqw> paultag: alright.  Thanks again!
[16:11] <bdmurray> There was some comment about Timo being willing to work on it so I'd check with him.
[16:11] <paultag> Alexqw, sure, thank you :)
[16:12] <bdmurray> comment 53
[16:12] <Alexqw> bdmurray: will do
[16:13] <paultag> someone rolled out a dsc
[16:13] <paultag> he's not MOTU or anything, so I'm warry
[16:14] <paultag> dur, he only uploaded the dsc, not the debdiff
[16:28] <hggdh> pedro_, bdmurray: cyan-spam applied for -control two months ago; there is only one reply to it (that I can see), positive. Isn't it time to approve him?
[16:30] <bdmurray> hggdh: I'll peek in a bit
[16:30] <hggdh> bdmurray: thank you, sir
[18:08]  * Nafallo wonders how he ended up with two bluetooth icons and no battery icon...
[18:11] <persia> Nafallo, Have you had a kernel update since you last rebooted?  That usually breaks the icon selection for me.
[18:11] <Nafallo> persia: nope
[18:12] <Nafallo> and it's fine again now :-P
[18:12] <Nafallo> completely random
[18:13] <JFo> persia, I've had no updates yet my system monitor has decided to position itself on the right of my screen between the clock and the me menu now between boots
[18:13] <JFo> very odd
[18:14] <persia> JFo, positioning on the GNOME panel seems racy to me, for certain sorts of screens.  You can force-lock it, which means it only breaks on xrandr events, rather than because you looked at it funny.  My understanding is that this is a really hard problem.
[18:14] <JFo> I can imagine
[18:14] <persia> (and different to the bluetooth/battery issue, which is entirely inside indicator-applet, rather than being gnome-panel)
[18:14] <JFo> I thought it odd that this was the first I had seen this
[18:15] <JFo> oh of course :)
[18:15] <persia> The heuristics to hide the raciness are pretty good :)
[18:36] <bdmurray> hggdh: I'm having a hard time finding cyan-spam
[18:36] <hggdh> bdmurray: you mean the email to -control?
[18:37] <bdmurray> hggdh: or who the person in launchpad is
[18:37] <hggdh> just a sec
[18:37] <hggdh> bdmurray: https://launchpad.net/~dgtombs
[18:38] <bdmurray> hggdh: those don't seem similar
[18:39] <bdmurray> hggdh: anyway +1 from me
[18:39] <hggdh> bdmurray: they are the same, email address matches
[18:39] <hggdh> bdmurray: I will approve him, then
[18:39] <bdmurray> hggdh: great, thanks!
[18:40] <hggdh> bdmurray: thank you :-)
[19:11] <njin> pedro_: hello fellow how are you ?
[19:11] <pedro_> hi njin, i'm good, thanks. what about you?
[19:12] <njin> pedro_: i'm fine, sorry one moment, learn english to Laura, BBl
[20:32] <njin> pedro_: What can i suggest here (UNR-UNE), he has doubled keyboard layout (Hrv, Bgr, Hrv2, Bgr2), he has tried some fix setxkbmap ecc., but not solve, also revrite xorg.conf, but at reboot they appear again, he found a fix in unlocking gnome -panel http://maketecheasier.com/unlock-gnome-panel-in-ubuntu-netbook-edition-une/2010/04/25 but in Maverick problem is back again
[20:33] <njin> pedro_:bug 486410
[20:33] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 486410 in ubuntu "Additional keyboard layout appears after boot in Ubuntu 9.10 (affects: 3) (heat: 21)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/486410
[21:02] <blemish> Could somebody take a look at a bug I've been struggling with for weeks?
[21:03] <persia> Which bug?
[21:09] <blemish> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-utils/+bug/670626
[21:09] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 670626 in alsa-utils (Ubuntu) "No sound from the speakers (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[21:09] <blemish> this one
[21:10] <persia> blemish, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems is the best place to start for that.
[21:10] <persia> Looks like it needs to be run through the whole suite, based on the docs in the bug.
[21:11] <persia> It's worth looking also at the links at the bottom: there's lots of good stuff there.
[21:22] <njin> can someone triage this bug 387269, Thanks
[21:22] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 387269 in gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) "If I am using the battery and want to brighten the screen as soon as I increase the brightness level the level indicator continues to flash, even if I only adjust it by one click/level. This also locks me out of some functions, such as turning the computer of via my login, or the system/apllication pull down menus (affects: 3) (heat: 18)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38
[21:23] <njin> bug 387269
[21:23] <njin> i'm conected?
[21:24] <persia> Your're connected
[21:25] <njin> persia: Thanks
[21:25] <njin> bug 387269
[21:25] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 387269 in gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) "If I am using the battery and want to brighten the screen as soon as I increase the brightness level the level indicator continues to flash, even if I only adjust it by one click/level. This also locks me out of some functions, such as turning the computer of via my login, or the system/apllication pull down menus (affects: 3) (heat: 18)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38
[21:25] <persia> ETITLETOOLONGNEEDSTOMESHORTENEDANDMOREPUTINTHEDESCRIPTIONALREADY
[21:25] <njin> ubot is tired?
[21:26] <njin> ah, ok
[21:30] <njin> bug 387269
[21:30] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 387269 in gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) "On battery if brightening the screen as soon as I increase the level indicator continues to flash, even if I only adjust it by one click. This locks shutdown and menus (affects: 3) (heat: 18)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387269
[21:32] <njin> can someone triage this ^^
[21:36] <njin> can someone triage bug 669787 thanks
[21:36] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 669787 in wpasupplicant (Ubuntu) "Latest security update renders wired and wireless connects inoperable (affects: 1) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/669787
[21:37] <bdmurray> njin: whne you say triage do you mean set the status to triaged or something else?
[21:37] <njin> bdmurray, status and importance
[21:42] <bdmurray> njin: shouldn't it be tagged regression-update?
[21:44] <njin> bdmurray:yes, sorry
[21:45] <bdmurray> njin: and why do you suspect wpasupplicant as the package?
[21:45] <njin> bdmurray: Nov 1 20:48:30 Acer150 NetworkManager: <info> (wlan0): supplicant manager state: down -> idle <---wpa ??
[21:46]  * micahg sees no security update for that package
[21:50] <bdmurray> Also the kernel version is from lucid not maverick so the maverick tag is incorrect.
[21:56] <njin> bdmurray: i've corrected, but the package is right or wrong? Thanks
[21:57] <bdmurray> njin: well since there have been no updates to wpasupplicant I'd suspect something else
[21:58] <njin> ok
[22:02] <bdmurray> probably the kernel maybe if they still have the old one installed they could boot it and see what happens?
[22:27] <njin> bdmurray: sorry, i was looking in kernel security updates, but now is too late for me and i go to sleep, i look well tomorrow, thanks
[22:27] <BUGabundo> evening
[22:28] <blemish> persia: I created a new bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/671178 according to instructionin sound triubleshooting guides
[22:28] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 671178 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "[CA0106 - CA0106] ALSA test tone not correctly played back (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[22:28] <persia> blemish, OK.  Were you able to determine cause, or just collect more information?
[22:29] <blemish> I just collected more information. No cause known so far :-(
[22:30] <persia> OK.  We're one step closer.  I'd recommend setting your old bug as a duplicate of the new one.
[22:30] <persia> And then we just need to wait for someone who can dig into it more.
[22:32] <blemish> ok, let me see how to do that...
[22:34] <blemish> ok, done
[22:46] <persia> blemish, Excellent.  Thanks for helping to triage the bug.  Unfortunately, the closer it gets to triaged, the more expertise is required to continue to push it.  If you're up for learning more, it can go further, or you can hope someone else has time.
[23:42] <real_ate> how do I nominate a bug fix for a release?
[23:43] <persia> real_ate, So, in which channel do you want to discuss this?
[23:43]  * persia prefers here, but sees traffic about that there
[23:47] <real_ate> persia: sorry for the confusion, I was only following your suggestion :)
[23:47] <persia> Yeah, you were just in two places :)
[23:47] <real_ate> persia: but the discussion is on #ubuntu-devel now
[23:47] <real_ate> persia: multi tasking :D
[23:47]  * persia pokes yofel
[23:47] <persia> Sure, but it's confusing to folk helping you.
[23:48] <persia> I suspect yofel is right.
[23:48] <yofel> real_ate: right - see http://blog.launchpad.net/general/new-features-for-bug-supervisors (or just bug 114766)
[23:48] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 114766 in malone "Only bug supervisor should be able to nominate a bug for a release (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 16)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114766
[23:48] <persia> Which bug do you want nominated where?
[23:48] <real_ate> well this seems to invalidate the SRU rules here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[23:49] <real_ate> I want to nominate bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/459695
[23:49] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 459695 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "KDE has not Shutdown/Restart buttons if started from GDM (affects: 10) (dups: 4) (heat: 74)" [Undecided,Invalid]
[23:49] <persia> No, it just limits execution such that it requires cooperation of bug control
[23:49] <yofel> IMHO SRUs are specific enough that you can just ask someone in -motu about it
[23:50] <real_ate> oh ok... then maybe can i file a change request that adds a "suggest for bug control to suggest for release" ? :P
[23:50] <persia> In this case, apachelogger would be the best person to get to nominate
[23:50] <persia> Since you've been working with him on it before.
[23:50] <real_ate> :P
[23:50] <persia> yofel, Every use of Nominate for Release is part of an SRU process.
[23:50]  * yofel agrees
[23:50] <real_ate> this is brill! its like full circle!
[23:51] <persia> real_ate, I hope we're not frustrating you.  This changed 6 days ago, so we're still getting used to it.
[23:51] <real_ate> persia: no its ok, i'm just glad you guys actually have a system
[23:51]  * real_ate has a workplace that is "ineffective" with bug tracking
[23:51] <persia> It's under continual development (just like the OS), but we try :)
[23:51] <real_ate> :P
[23:51] <yofel> persia: really? Just asking as I found that button to be a bit confusing in the past, never used it for anything else than SRUs myself though
[23:53] <real_ate> btw thanks you guys for your help
[23:53] <real_ate> i'm away off to bed now
[23:54] <persia> It's only meaningful for SRUs and Release-Critical bugs (basically pre-SRUs during release freeze).
[23:54] <real_ate> but tonight has been preety successful for me i think. very smooth bug/dev experience :D
[23:54] <yofel> makes sense
[23:57] <persia> real_ate, That's great to hear.  I've seen you get bounced all around, and always worry that the multiplicity of communications channels scares folk, but I'm glad to hear you feel you've chatted with the right people.
[23:59] <real_ate> persia: well that was really helped by the fact that people directed me to the right places in the first place