[00:08] <jcastro> cjohnston: pong!
[00:08] <jcastro> cjohnston: got the configs, much <3
[00:08] <cjohnston> ya man
[02:45] <doctormo> Is it time to stop playing angry birds when your thumb hurts?
[06:28] <dholbach> GOOD MORNING!
[06:34] <doctormo> hey dholbach
[06:34] <dholbach> hi doctormo
[06:34] <doctormo> Anything good happening today dholbach?
[06:35] <dholbach> what kind of question is that? there's always something good happening - especially in the Ubuntu world!
[06:39] <doctormo> dholbach: I should have had dinner with you at UDS, I always seem to miss you there.
[06:40] <doctormo> dholbach: So what glorious happening are we partaking in today?
[06:41] <dholbach> I'll continue writing specs and probably work on some statistics about the sponsorship queue, so we can get an idea if the new approach is going to work or not :)
[06:43] <dholbach> and you?
[06:58] <jussi> my body is still on US time. so this is horrible being up now :(
[06:59] <dholbach> I'm still a bit tired myself, but I'm getting there - I'm almost cured :)
[07:08] <kim0> good morning folks
[07:09] <kim0> nigelb: dholbach o/
[07:09] <dholbach> hey kim0
[07:52] <doctormo> dholbach: Trying to find a solution to my lonelyness issue, 2 years without a job is starting to grate my nerves and sap my motivation.
[07:55] <doctormo> Also drawing some wacom tablets and am egar to hear back from mpt about apt-cat
[08:09] <dpm> good morning everyone!
[08:14] <dholbach> hey dpm, hey ara
[08:14] <ara> morning dholbach, dpm
[08:16] <dpm> good morning dholbach, morning ara!
[08:21] <kim0> dpm: howdy
[08:21] <dpm> heya kim0 :)
[08:32]  * nigelb yawns and waves
[08:32] <nigelb> my sleep cycle is out of whack
[08:35] <doctormo> nigelb: You didn't even come to UDS
[08:35] <nigelb> doctormo: but I was awake last night for 24 hours after 4 hours of sleep the previous night :/
[08:36] <doctormo> er, yea I was asleep for about 14 hours I think. It was hard to tell, it was a long time I know that.
[08:36] <doctormo> From 2am to 6pm... 16 hours.
[08:41] <nigelb> doctormo: I did the opposite.  too much time awake
[08:41] <nigelb> hola kim0 :)
[08:42] <kim0> hey hey :)
[08:42] <nigelb> today I'm late - I just got up an hour ago or so :/
[08:43] <nigelb> doctormo: jcastro is Jorge Castro :p
[08:43] <nigelb> not Jeorge :D
[08:49] <doctormo> nigelb: right right, why does no one allow me to spell their names how I remember mispelling them!
[08:55] <nigelb> doctormo: oh, people are very picky about spelling
[08:55] <nigelb> I get irritated at how my name gets misspelled
[08:56] <nigelb> Its a very common British name but not so much in India.
[09:07] <doctormo> Nigel? do people think it's nay-gal?
[09:37] <nigelb> doctormo: Nygyl,Naigyl are some of the fun spellings
[09:38] <doctormo> nigelb: You say that goodness gracious me with the British guy coming over to India and no one can pronounce his name?
[09:38] <doctormo> saw*
[09:40] <doctormo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU70qAfQAo8
[09:45]  * nigelb clicks
[10:11] <dpm> hi daker
[10:13] <daker> hi dpm
[10:42] <huats> morning
[10:43] <nigelb> morning huats
[10:48] <nigelb> Its wonderful to see people difusing ubuntu-debian tensions in #debian-ubuntu
[10:48] <nigelb> looking back to maybe 1 year back, its definitely become better :)
[11:31] <Pendulum> hiya
[11:41] <czajkowski> Pendulum: wllo
[11:48] <nigelb> czajkowski: across the pond? :)
[11:48]  * nigelb waves to Pendulum 
[11:49] <Pendulum> hiya nigelb
[11:49] <Pendulum> czajkowski: it's weird not to have you here :(
[11:49] <czajkowski> Pendulum: aww *hugs*
[11:49] <czajkowski> I had an hour delay this morning arriving
[11:49] <czajkowski> came home and napped for 3 hours
[11:49] <czajkowski> now to get back up and about again
[11:50]  * Pendulum hugs czajkowski 
[11:50] <czajkowski> luggage was last off as well :(
[11:50] <czajkowski> it's also lashing rain!
[11:50] <Pici> Good morning... I think.
[11:50] <nigelb> czajkowski: rain ehre too.
[11:50] <nigelb> czajkowski: did you finish packing round 2? ;)
[11:51] <Pici> Its raining and rather unpleasant outside here as well.
[11:51] <Pendulum> Pici: here too
[11:52]  * nigelb loves rain.
[11:52] <nigelb> ooh, via mdz: http://www.neatorama.com/2010/11/02/geek-optimism/
[11:58] <czajkowski> nigelb: in the middle of it now
[12:00] <czajkowski> Pendulum: all good your end ?
[12:00] <Pendulum> czajkowski: yep. got home safely. just fairly sick at this point.
[12:00] <czajkowski> :(
[12:05]  * nigelb hugs Pendulum 
[12:06] <Pendulum> better sick here than at disney!
[12:07] <czajkowski> this is true
[12:07] <czajkowski> stil :(
[12:16] <Pendulum> nigelb: I thought you were off for the rest of the week?
[12:22] <nigelb> Pendulum: In a bit.  Finishing up things at work.
[12:28]  * dpm lunches
[12:56] <nigelb> ok, I gotta go.  Catch y'all Monday \o/
[12:56] <nigelb> Its an extended weekend here and I'm gonna have some fun for 3 days away from technology :D
[12:57] <AlanBell> happy diwali
[12:58] <Pendulum> nigelb: get some sleep :P
[12:59] <nigelb> AlanBell: thanks
[12:59] <nigelb> Pendulum: very less likely
[13:00] <nigelb> I will, however, take lots of pictures of the beautiful place I'm going to stay :)
[14:16] <highvoltage> jcastro: I'd like to link to askubuntu.com from the edubuntu website, what's the right way to link there? should I just link directly to the askubuntu.com page or is there some kind of tag or category or section it should link to?
[14:17] <jcastro> highvoltage: is it for something like "ask us edubuntu questions!" or something?
[14:18] <jcastro> you can send them to a page which will pretag it for them with edubuntu or whatever if you want
[14:28] <highvoltage> jcastro: I guess we just want to let our users know that askubuntu.com exists. I think I'll just link to askubuntu.com directly.
[14:28] <jcastro> yeah
[14:29] <jcastro> or you can do "Ask us a question about edubuntu" and take them directly to the question page with an edubuuntu tag already selected
[14:29] <jcastro> up to you
[14:30] <Pendulum> jcastro: is there any way of reporting problems with askubuntu and/or stack exchange in general other than to ask a question? neither site is screen-reader useable :(
[14:31] <Pendulum> (and based on a question asked on stack exchange over the summer, that's actually a regression and stack exchange used to be mostly accessible)
[14:32] <jcastro> If you mail me I'd be more than happy to forward it on to the team
[14:32] <jcastro> (sorry I can't report a bug, I can't use your site, nice one!)
[14:32] <jcastro> :)
[14:33] <Pendulum> I'll find what I know and see what I can pull together
[14:33] <jcastro> Pendulum: so it used to be and it isn't now? I wonder if it's the theme
[14:35] <czajkowski> Peeka boo
[14:36] <popey> knew there was one channel missing
[14:36]  * Pendulum hugs popey 
[14:36] <popey> :)
[14:37] <czajkowski> ohh a saussage sambo, frie egg and a bucket of tea
[14:38] <czajkowski> perfect :D
[14:38] <popey> tonight I'm planning to record 10 screencasts :)
[14:40] <czajkowski> as you do..
[14:40] <czajkowski> crazy loon
[14:40] <czajkowski> want to reply to mails as well on your to do list :D
[14:41] <popey> hah
[14:41] <popey> nahhh
[14:41]  * popey selects all mail
[14:41]  * popey clicks "delete"
[14:41] <popey> what mail?
[14:41]  * czajkowski prods popey I'll be in poking distance in less than 24 hours buddy! 
[14:41] <czajkowski> :)
[14:41] <czajkowski> just sayin'! :)
[14:42] <jcastro> dpm: have you broken down any of your WI into milestones yet?
[14:42] <popey> eek
[14:42]  * jcastro needs an example as I always get the syntax for the titles wrong
[14:42] <paultag> czajkowski, you like poking popey, eh?
[14:42] <jcastro> popey: \o/
[14:43] <dpm> jcastro, no, not yet, but I've got an example from past bps, gimme a sec and I'll link you to them
[14:43] <czajkowski> well one of ye needs to reply to mals, before I get more flack from nixteral :(
[14:43] <paultag> czajkowski, ME?
[14:43] <czajkowski> nice guy though
[14:43] <paultag> czajkowski, I reply to my mail, thank you :)
[14:43] <dpm> jcastro, https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-m-launchpad-translations-reporting-api
[14:44] <jcastro> highvoltage: FYI http://askubuntu.com/questions/ask?tags=edubuntu would do a direct question
[14:44] <jcastro> dpm: perfect, thanks!
[14:44] <czajkowski> paultag: darkwingduck is a cool guy! lotta fun
[14:44] <paultag> czajkowski, he rocks. I keep good friends :)
[14:45] <paultag> czajkowski, He's another UBT guy. Born and bread.
[14:45] <dpm> jcastro, no worries. Here's perhaps a better example with the actual milestones for natty:
[14:45] <dpm>   https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-desktop-n-firefox-4
[14:45] <jcastro> dpm: poor micahg!
[14:45] <dpm> :-)
[14:46] <dpm> at least he'll have the fun to spam everyone to death when completing work items :)
[14:59] <jono> kim0, want to hop on the phone?
[14:59] <kim0> jono: yeah
[14:59] <jono> kim0, lets do skype
[14:59] <kim0> ok
[15:00] <jono> and I am going to make some coffee while we chat if that is ok
[15:00] <kim0> jono: sure thing :)
[15:00] <dpm> jono, we had a call scheduled. Do you want to postpone it until you and kim0 are finished?
[15:00] <dpm> jono, oh, sorry, that's in 1h
[15:00]  * dpm goes back to work...
[15:00] <kim0> dpm: you get the decaf Jono
[15:01] <dpm> :-)
[15:01] <kim0> hehe
[15:01] <kim0> jono: call at will
[15:11] <jcastro> decaf? booooooo.
[15:14] <highvoltage> jcastro: great, thanks
[15:18] <paultag> yo doctormo, you in?
[15:34] <jono> kim0, thanks for putting up with all the coffee making noises at the beginning of the call
[15:34] <jono> and hearing me get more and more energetic as the caffiene started to kick in
[15:35] <czajkowski> heh
[15:35] <czajkowski> can you send some energy over this way please
[15:35] <Pendulum> jono: how many cups of coffee do you have in a day?
[15:35]  * popey looks at the stack of cups next to his laptop
[15:36] <Pendulum> popey: coffee or tea, though?
[15:36] <popey> coffee
[15:36] <Pendulum> odd people
[15:37] <popey> no accounting for tastes huh
[15:37] <czajkowski> yeha though mental note Pendulum not ordering tea again from starbucks that was hard
[15:37] <popey> ordering tea in starbucks is hard?
[15:37] <popey> I love their chai latte
[15:37] <Pendulum> we went to the most incompetant starbucks ever
[15:37] <popey> haha
[15:38] <Pendulum> asked for one grande tea with milk and one tall tea
[15:38] <czajkowski> how they managed to get confused over 2 teas I will never understand
[15:38] <Pendulum> yeah
[15:38] <Pendulum> first they thought the tall tea was a tall coffee
[15:38] <Pendulum> and they thought the grade tea was a chai latte
[15:38] <Pendulum> (this was when ordering)
[15:38] <Pendulum> then got the tea and they had prepared it correctly
[15:38] <popey> who spoke?
[15:39] <Pendulum> me
[15:39] <popey> blimey
[15:39] <czajkowski> HAH!
[15:39] <czajkowski> cheeky
[15:39] <popey> :D
[15:39] <Pendulum> but they'd forgotten to clear out the charges for the things they'd gotten confused over
[15:39] <Pendulum> so wanted to charge almost $8 for 2 teas
[15:39] <duanedesign> afternoon all
[15:39] <popey> dude, _I_ have to watch your mouth when you talk!
[15:39] <Pendulum> it was using a drive-thru, but still shouldn't have been that messy
[15:39] <Pendulum> I order tea at starbucks all the time, just that one didn't understand
[15:39] <czajkowski> paultag: ye keybuk  had a simlar issue
[15:40] <popey> ahh the magic drive through voice-corrupting intercom huh?
[15:40]  * czajkowski makes a mental note to speak slowly in UK!
[15:40]  * popey will be teaching czajkowski the queens english when she comes over
[15:40] <Pendulum> popey: keybuk had to ask her to speak English at one point.
[15:40] <popey> haha
[15:40] <Pendulum> I generally do okay, but I've got CAPD so I 1/2 read lips anyway
[15:40] <czajkowski> yes in between trying to scare me shitless
[15:41] <jono> Pendulum, I have two largish cups each day usually
[15:42] <jono> one in the morning, one at lunch
[15:42] <jono> I used to drink more, but I am transforming into an old man
[15:42] <Pendulum> that's not so bad
[15:42] <jono> so I replace my coffee with vodka and meth
[15:42] <jono> lol
[15:42] <Pendulum> haha
[15:43] <JFo> excellent choice
[15:44] <duanedesign> martin introduced me to some proper english tea at UDS. That stuff was potent. I had half a cup and didnt drink any coffee for the rest the day
[15:44] <czajkowski> pg tips
[15:45] <duanedesign> czajkowski: yep :)
[15:46] <popey> lol
[15:46] <popey> seriously?
[15:46] <czajkowski> I had my barrys I was happy
[15:46] <popey> 15:44:38 < czajkowski> pg tips
[15:46] <popey> oops
[15:46] <czajkowski> jono: enjoying your tea!
[16:53] <jcastro> jono: I'm running late on reorganizing my WI, I told you by lunch today but more like EOD today my time, is that ok?
[16:53] <jcastro> jono: did you want to review them today?
[16:53] <jcastro> like on the phone?
[16:53] <jono> czajkowski, :-)
[16:54] <jono> jcastro, no, I want to review it today
[16:54] <jono> I made it pretty clear I need them completing by the EOB yesterday
[16:54] <jcastro> right that's what I mean, review EOD my time?
[16:54] <jcastro> ok, when do you want to have our call?
[16:54] <jono> jcastro, I don't think we need a call unless you have business to discuss - next step is reviewing the 11.04 strat
[16:55] <jono> ok, I will review your content after you finish
[16:55] <jcastro> ok, I'll have them sorted in an hour
[16:55] <jono> just please get them done ASAP
[16:55] <jcastro> I have them just not milestoned yet. #$%@#$%@#$Q%
[16:55] <jono> thanks
[16:57] <dholbach> ok my friends
[16:57] <dholbach> I call it a day
[16:57] <dholbach> see you tomorrow
[17:04] <duanedesign> i created a map showing the geographic diversity of the Beginners Team. http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/kwcKJKsnHGfWIKUgWgMu6A?feat=directlink
[17:11] <jcastro> jono: ok all set.
[17:26] <jcastro> jono: any idea why our stuff doesn't show up in the graph?
[17:26] <jcastro> http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/natty/all.html
[17:26] <jcastro> same with our team-specific graph
[18:06] <jono> jcastro, you finished all your WI?
[18:07] <jcastro> jono: yessir
[18:07] <jono> thanks jcastro
[18:07] <jono> much appreciated
[18:07] <jcastro> SP is all updated too
[18:07] <jono> I will review then, and then we can see what is going on with the graphs
[18:08] <jcastro> theoretically there should be no work items outside of what I mention
[18:32] <Pendulum> AlanBell: were you in the diversity at UDS session?
[18:35] <AlanBell> no, I think I was in the colour management session in that slot
[18:36] <AlanBell> you were in it though were you not?
[18:36] <Pendulum> yes. just wasn't sure if you'd been there and had taken some notes ;-)
[18:36] <AlanBell> ah no
[18:37] <AlanBell> I was in the roundtable when it was initially discussed I think
[18:38] <jcastro> jono: how am I looking so far?
[18:39] <AlanBell> ^^ hot or not
[18:45] <jono> jcastro, still stuck in a world of shit and email, will check soon
[18:46] <jono> I have a lunch meeting and then I am processing the 11.04 stat
[18:46] <jono> strat
[19:11] <jcastro> good, whatever takes attention off of me
[19:11]  * jcastro continues to stare at the wall
[19:14]  * JFo practices his navel gazing
[19:21] <jcastro> JFo: dan, come up here, and bring your knife
[19:21]  * JFo gets his knife
[19:22] <duanedesign> Pendulum: where you looking for notes from that session (diversity)?
[19:23] <Pendulum> duanedesign: I just wasn't sure if there was anyone who was taking notes who wasn't physically in the room since I got an e-mail looking for notes
[19:24] <duanedesign> ahh, ok
[19:24] <jcastro> Pendulum: you've got mail!
[19:25] <Pendulum> jcastro: erm. I'm not the one with the screen reader (I can access ask ubuntu), but I'll talk to the people who tested it and see what they say
[19:26] <Pendulum> I just keep bringing it up since some one needs to :P
[19:27] <jcastro> Pendulum: yeah I am just trying to connect people together, any help there would be lovely
[19:27] <Pendulum> yeah, i'm going to see what info I can get :)
[19:28]  * jcastro goes off to try unity places so I'll be in and out
[19:30] <jcastro> sense: have you tried to play with the unity sample neil showed at UDS?
[19:31] <sense> jcastro: I haven't had time to do so, I'm preparing for a test week—starting next weekU2014
[19:31] <sense> and I just took over leading Ubuntu NL.
[19:31] <sense> So it has been quite busy here. :)
[19:32] <sense> and I will be quite busy next week as well
[19:32] <jcastro> I am trying it now!
[19:32] <sense> but I sure want to play with Unity Places as soon when I've got time
[19:32] <sense> jcastro: How is it going?
[19:32] <sense> Having fun?
[19:32] <jcastro> I just started, still pulling deps down
[19:32] <jcastro> hopefully by tomorrow/early next week I'll have a video for people to watch
[19:33] <sense> would be nice
[19:33] <jcastro> I would /love/ an imdb place for example
[19:40] <sense> :)
[19:40] <jcastro> ah easy
[19:40] <jcastro> it's just autotools, make, make install
[19:40] <jcastro> all that I need to do is figure out how to run it
[19:43] <sense> Oh god, someone actually started defending his views that there are things men are better in (parking) and women are better in (multi-tasking) in the 5%-women-in-Ubuntu-Members-thread on the Ubuntu NL forums. Sigh...
[19:44] <sense> followed by our only female moderator trying to confirm the fact that women are more sensitive than men
[19:44] <sense> and that men often know it better...
[19:44] <Pendulum> oh dear
[19:44] <Pendulum> *hugs*
[19:46] <Pendulum> jcastro: do you have reputation on meta.stackoverflow.com ?
[19:48] <jcastro> Pendulum: yeah
[19:51] <doctormo> paultag: back, how can I help?
[19:56] <jcastro> sense: ok so it all works, I have it, but I needed to --prefix=/usr it, I've filed a bug
[19:57] <sense> ah!
[19:57] <sense> Do I need to triage it? ;)
[19:57] <jcastro> and one on synergy not working in unity
[19:57] <jcastro> and I'm about to file another one on the dash
[19:57] <jcastro> no I got vandine to confirm it
[19:59] <sense> That probably works better for getting them fixed.
[20:13] <jcastro> woo
[20:13] <jcastro> 3 unity bugs today
[20:14] <jcastro> 2 more and I get a prize!
[20:15] <czajkowski> heh
[20:15]  * AlanBell really wants unity on compiz fairly soon
[20:15] <jcastro> yeah me too
[20:16] <jcastro> I have a 9000-series gforce in this thing and it's already dragging
[20:16] <AlanBell> I keep wanting to look at things with the compiz colourblind simulation filter so flip to compiz then back to unity and it just gets so confused doing that
[20:19] <duanedesign> jcastro: did you install unity-place-files and unity-place-applications?
[20:25] <jcastro> duanedesign: I have those already
[20:25] <Pendulum> jcastro: can you upvote http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/68898/how-accessible-are-the-stack-exchange-sites-for-users-of-screen-reader-software
[20:26] <jcastro> Pendulum: done
[20:27] <Pendulum> thanks :)
[20:27] <Pendulum> IMO needing a script that has to be done every time to make it work is not "accessible"
[20:28] <duanedesign> jcastro: ahh, i thought maybe that was what you were talking about.
[21:44] <jcastro> hah
[21:44] <jcastro> lint for locos
[21:44] <jcastro> nice paultag
[21:44] <paultag> jcastro, it works killer
[21:44] <paultag> jcastro, I'm working on having it let people file bugs too. It's going to be solid after I'm done with it.
[21:45] <Pendulum> paultag: speaking of which did you remember to join the loco council channel? :P
[21:45] <paultag> Pendulum, yes :3
[21:45] <paultag> paultag, thanks :)
[21:46] <czajkowski> lol
[21:46] <Pendulum> czajkowski: :P
[21:47] <czajkowski> deep down paultag you know we love you dearly :p
[21:47] <paultag> czajkowski, Oh pfft, yeah :)
[21:47] <paultag> czajkowski, I don't think you know how much I chuckle to myself in this room :)
[21:48] <czajkowski> heh
[21:51] <Pendulum> :)
[21:52] <paultag> brb
[23:37] <czajkowski> hmm
[23:37] <czajkowski> longest brb ever paultag
[23:38] <paultag> czajkowski, I'm here
[23:38] <paultag> czajkowski, just in other channels and working on loco lint
[23:38] <czajkowski> :D
[23:38] <paultag> :)
[23:39] <Pendulum> heh
[23:39] <czajkowski> I'd like to sleep now
[23:40] <Pendulum> so go sleep
[23:41] <czajkowski> wired
[23:43] <Pendulum> :(