[00:08] cjohnston: pong! [00:08] cjohnston: got the configs, much <3 [00:08] ya man [02:45] Is it time to stop playing angry birds when your thumb hurts? [06:28] GOOD MORNING! [06:34] hey dholbach [06:34] hi doctormo [06:34] Anything good happening today dholbach? [06:35] what kind of question is that? there's always something good happening - especially in the Ubuntu world! [06:39] dholbach: I should have had dinner with you at UDS, I always seem to miss you there. [06:40] dholbach: So what glorious happening are we partaking in today? [06:41] I'll continue writing specs and probably work on some statistics about the sponsorship queue, so we can get an idea if the new approach is going to work or not :) [06:43] and you? [06:58] my body is still on US time. so this is horrible being up now :( [06:59] I'm still a bit tired myself, but I'm getting there - I'm almost cured :) [07:08] good morning folks [07:09] nigelb: dholbach o/ [07:09] hey kim0 [07:52] dholbach: Trying to find a solution to my lonelyness issue, 2 years without a job is starting to grate my nerves and sap my motivation. [07:55] Also drawing some wacom tablets and am egar to hear back from mpt about apt-cat [08:09] good morning everyone! [08:14] hey dpm, hey ara [08:14] morning dholbach, dpm [08:16] good morning dholbach, morning ara! [08:21] dpm: howdy [08:21] heya kim0 :) [08:32] * nigelb yawns and waves [08:32] my sleep cycle is out of whack [08:35] nigelb: You didn't even come to UDS [08:35] doctormo: but I was awake last night for 24 hours after 4 hours of sleep the previous night :/ [08:36] er, yea I was asleep for about 14 hours I think. It was hard to tell, it was a long time I know that. [08:36] From 2am to 6pm... 16 hours. [08:41] doctormo: I did the opposite. too much time awake [08:41] hola kim0 :) [08:42] hey hey :) [08:42] today I'm late - I just got up an hour ago or so :/ [08:43] doctormo: jcastro is Jorge Castro :p [08:43] not Jeorge :D [08:49] nigelb: right right, why does no one allow me to spell their names how I remember mispelling them! [08:55] doctormo: oh, people are very picky about spelling [08:55] I get irritated at how my name gets misspelled [08:56] Its a very common British name but not so much in India. [09:07] Nigel? do people think it's nay-gal? [09:37] doctormo: Nygyl,Naigyl are some of the fun spellings [09:38] nigelb: You say that goodness gracious me with the British guy coming over to India and no one can pronounce his name? [09:38] saw* [09:40] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU70qAfQAo8 [09:45] * nigelb clicks [10:11] hi daker [10:13] hi dpm [10:42] morning [10:43] morning huats [10:48] Its wonderful to see people difusing ubuntu-debian tensions in #debian-ubuntu [10:48] looking back to maybe 1 year back, its definitely become better :) [11:31] hiya [11:41] Pendulum: wllo [11:48] czajkowski: across the pond? :) [11:48] * nigelb waves to Pendulum [11:49] hiya nigelb [11:49] czajkowski: it's weird not to have you here :( [11:49] Pendulum: aww *hugs* [11:49] I had an hour delay this morning arriving [11:49] came home and napped for 3 hours [11:49] now to get back up and about again [11:50] * Pendulum hugs czajkowski [11:50] luggage was last off as well :( [11:50] it's also lashing rain! [11:50] Good morning... I think. [11:50] czajkowski: rain ehre too. [11:50] czajkowski: did you finish packing round 2? ;) [11:51] Its raining and rather unpleasant outside here as well. [11:51] Pici: here too [11:52] * nigelb loves rain. [11:52] ooh, via mdz: http://www.neatorama.com/2010/11/02/geek-optimism/ [11:58] nigelb: in the middle of it now [12:00] Pendulum: all good your end ? [12:00] czajkowski: yep. got home safely. just fairly sick at this point. [12:00] :( [12:05] * nigelb hugs Pendulum [12:06] better sick here than at disney! [12:07] this is true [12:07] stil :( [12:16] nigelb: I thought you were off for the rest of the week? [12:22] Pendulum: In a bit. Finishing up things at work. [12:28] * dpm lunches [12:56] ok, I gotta go. Catch y'all Monday \o/ [12:56] Its an extended weekend here and I'm gonna have some fun for 3 days away from technology :D [12:57] happy diwali [12:58] nigelb: get some sleep :P [12:59] AlanBell: thanks [12:59] Pendulum: very less likely [13:00] I will, however, take lots of pictures of the beautiful place I'm going to stay :) [14:16] jcastro: I'd like to link to askubuntu.com from the edubuntu website, what's the right way to link there? should I just link directly to the askubuntu.com page or is there some kind of tag or category or section it should link to? [14:17] highvoltage: is it for something like "ask us edubuntu questions!" or something? [14:18] you can send them to a page which will pretag it for them with edubuntu or whatever if you want [14:28] jcastro: I guess we just want to let our users know that askubuntu.com exists. I think I'll just link to askubuntu.com directly. [14:28] yeah [14:29] or you can do "Ask us a question about edubuntu" and take them directly to the question page with an edubuuntu tag already selected [14:29] up to you [14:30] jcastro: is there any way of reporting problems with askubuntu and/or stack exchange in general other than to ask a question? neither site is screen-reader useable :( [14:31] (and based on a question asked on stack exchange over the summer, that's actually a regression and stack exchange used to be mostly accessible) [14:32] If you mail me I'd be more than happy to forward it on to the team [14:32] (sorry I can't report a bug, I can't use your site, nice one!) [14:32] :) [14:33] I'll find what I know and see what I can pull together [14:33] Pendulum: so it used to be and it isn't now? I wonder if it's the theme [14:35] Peeka boo [14:36] knew there was one channel missing [14:36] * Pendulum hugs popey [14:36] :) [14:37] ohh a saussage sambo, frie egg and a bucket of tea [14:38] perfect :D [14:38] tonight I'm planning to record 10 screencasts :) [14:40] as you do.. [14:40] crazy loon [14:40] want to reply to mails as well on your to do list :D [14:41] hah [14:41] nahhh [14:41] * popey selects all mail [14:41] * popey clicks "delete" [14:41] what mail? [14:41] * czajkowski prods popey I'll be in poking distance in less than 24 hours buddy! [14:41] :) [14:41] just sayin'! :) [14:42] dpm: have you broken down any of your WI into milestones yet? [14:42] eek [14:42] * jcastro needs an example as I always get the syntax for the titles wrong [14:42] czajkowski, you like poking popey, eh? [14:42] popey: \o/ [14:43] jcastro, no, not yet, but I've got an example from past bps, gimme a sec and I'll link you to them [14:43] well one of ye needs to reply to mals, before I get more flack from nixteral :( [14:43] czajkowski, ME? [14:43] nice guy though [14:43] czajkowski, I reply to my mail, thank you :) [14:43] jcastro, https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-m-launchpad-translations-reporting-api [14:44] highvoltage: FYI http://askubuntu.com/questions/ask?tags=edubuntu would do a direct question [14:44] dpm: perfect, thanks! [14:44] paultag: darkwingduck is a cool guy! lotta fun [14:44] czajkowski, he rocks. I keep good friends :) [14:45] czajkowski, He's another UBT guy. Born and bread. [14:45] jcastro, no worries. Here's perhaps a better example with the actual milestones for natty: [14:45] https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-desktop-n-firefox-4 [14:45] dpm: poor micahg! [14:45] :-) [14:46] at least he'll have the fun to spam everyone to death when completing work items :) [14:59] kim0, want to hop on the phone? [14:59] jono: yeah [14:59] kim0, lets do skype [14:59] ok [15:00] and I am going to make some coffee while we chat if that is ok [15:00] jono: sure thing :) [15:00] jono, we had a call scheduled. Do you want to postpone it until you and kim0 are finished? [15:00] jono, oh, sorry, that's in 1h [15:00] * dpm goes back to work... [15:00] dpm: you get the decaf Jono [15:01] :-) [15:01] hehe [15:01] jono: call at will [15:11] decaf? booooooo. [15:14] jcastro: great, thanks [15:18] yo doctormo, you in? [15:34] kim0, thanks for putting up with all the coffee making noises at the beginning of the call [15:34] and hearing me get more and more energetic as the caffiene started to kick in [15:35] heh [15:35] can you send some energy over this way please [15:35] jono: how many cups of coffee do you have in a day? [15:35] * popey looks at the stack of cups next to his laptop [15:36] popey: coffee or tea, though? [15:36] coffee [15:36] odd people [15:37] no accounting for tastes huh [15:37] yeha though mental note Pendulum not ordering tea again from starbucks that was hard [15:37] ordering tea in starbucks is hard? [15:37] I love their chai latte [15:37] we went to the most incompetant starbucks ever [15:37] haha [15:38] asked for one grande tea with milk and one tall tea [15:38] how they managed to get confused over 2 teas I will never understand [15:38] yeah [15:38] first they thought the tall tea was a tall coffee [15:38] and they thought the grade tea was a chai latte [15:38] (this was when ordering) [15:38] then got the tea and they had prepared it correctly [15:38] who spoke? [15:39] me [15:39] blimey [15:39] HAH! [15:39] cheeky [15:39] :D [15:39] but they'd forgotten to clear out the charges for the things they'd gotten confused over [15:39] so wanted to charge almost $8 for 2 teas [15:39] afternoon all [15:39] dude, _I_ have to watch your mouth when you talk! [15:39] it was using a drive-thru, but still shouldn't have been that messy [15:39] I order tea at starbucks all the time, just that one didn't understand [15:39] paultag: ye keybuk had a simlar issue [15:40] ahh the magic drive through voice-corrupting intercom huh? [15:40] * czajkowski makes a mental note to speak slowly in UK! [15:40] * popey will be teaching czajkowski the queens english when she comes over [15:40] popey: keybuk had to ask her to speak English at one point. [15:40] haha [15:40] I generally do okay, but I've got CAPD so I 1/2 read lips anyway [15:40] yes in between trying to scare me shitless === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [15:41] Pendulum, I have two largish cups each day usually [15:42] one in the morning, one at lunch [15:42] I used to drink more, but I am transforming into an old man [15:42] that's not so bad [15:42] so I replace my coffee with vodka and meth [15:42] lol [15:42] haha [15:43] excellent choice [15:44] martin introduced me to some proper english tea at UDS. That stuff was potent. I had half a cup and didnt drink any coffee for the rest the day [15:44] pg tips [15:45] czajkowski: yep :) [15:46] lol [15:46] seriously? [15:46] I had my barrys I was happy [15:46] 15:44:38 < czajkowski> pg tips [15:46] oops [15:46] jono: enjoying your tea! [16:53] jono: I'm running late on reorganizing my WI, I told you by lunch today but more like EOD today my time, is that ok? [16:53] jono: did you want to review them today? [16:53] like on the phone? [16:53] czajkowski, :-) [16:54] jcastro, no, I want to review it today [16:54] I made it pretty clear I need them completing by the EOB yesterday [16:54] right that's what I mean, review EOD my time? [16:54] ok, when do you want to have our call? [16:54] jcastro, I don't think we need a call unless you have business to discuss - next step is reviewing the 11.04 strat [16:55] ok, I will review your content after you finish [16:55] ok, I'll have them sorted in an hour [16:55] just please get them done ASAP [16:55] I have them just not milestoned yet. #$%@#$%@#$Q% [16:55] thanks [16:57] ok my friends [16:57] I call it a day [16:57] see you tomorrow [17:04] i created a map showing the geographic diversity of the Beginners Team. http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/kwcKJKsnHGfWIKUgWgMu6A?feat=directlink [17:11] jono: ok all set. [17:26] jono: any idea why our stuff doesn't show up in the graph? [17:26] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/natty/all.html [17:26] same with our team-specific graph [18:06] jcastro, you finished all your WI? [18:07] jono: yessir [18:07] thanks jcastro [18:07] much appreciated [18:07] SP is all updated too [18:07] I will review then, and then we can see what is going on with the graphs [18:08] theoretically there should be no work items outside of what I mention [18:32] AlanBell: were you in the diversity at UDS session? [18:35] no, I think I was in the colour management session in that slot [18:36] you were in it though were you not? [18:36] yes. just wasn't sure if you'd been there and had taken some notes ;-) [18:36] ah no [18:37] I was in the roundtable when it was initially discussed I think [18:38] jono: how am I looking so far? [18:39] ^^ hot or not [18:45] jcastro, still stuck in a world of shit and email, will check soon [18:46] I have a lunch meeting and then I am processing the 11.04 stat [18:46] strat [19:11] good, whatever takes attention off of me [19:11] * jcastro continues to stare at the wall [19:14] * JFo practices his navel gazing [19:21] JFo: dan, come up here, and bring your knife [19:21] * JFo gets his knife [19:22] Pendulum: where you looking for notes from that session (diversity)? [19:23] duanedesign: I just wasn't sure if there was anyone who was taking notes who wasn't physically in the room since I got an e-mail looking for notes [19:24] ahh, ok [19:24] Pendulum: you've got mail! [19:25] jcastro: erm. I'm not the one with the screen reader (I can access ask ubuntu), but I'll talk to the people who tested it and see what they say [19:26] I just keep bringing it up since some one needs to :P [19:27] Pendulum: yeah I am just trying to connect people together, any help there would be lovely [19:27] yeah, i'm going to see what info I can get :) [19:28] * jcastro goes off to try unity places so I'll be in and out [19:30] sense: have you tried to play with the unity sample neil showed at UDS? [19:31] jcastro: I haven't had time to do so, I'm preparing for a test week—starting next weekU2014 [19:31] and I just took over leading Ubuntu NL. [19:31] So it has been quite busy here. :) [19:32] and I will be quite busy next week as well [19:32] I am trying it now! [19:32] but I sure want to play with Unity Places as soon when I've got time [19:32] jcastro: How is it going? [19:32] Having fun? [19:32] I just started, still pulling deps down [19:32] hopefully by tomorrow/early next week I'll have a video for people to watch [19:33] would be nice [19:33] I would /love/ an imdb place for example [19:40] :) [19:40] ah easy [19:40] it's just autotools, make, make install [19:40] all that I need to do is figure out how to run it [19:43] Oh god, someone actually started defending his views that there are things men are better in (parking) and women are better in (multi-tasking) in the 5%-women-in-Ubuntu-Members-thread on the Ubuntu NL forums. Sigh... [19:44] followed by our only female moderator trying to confirm the fact that women are more sensitive than men [19:44] and that men often know it better... [19:44] oh dear [19:44] *hugs* [19:46] jcastro: do you have reputation on meta.stackoverflow.com ? [19:48] Pendulum: yeah [19:51] paultag: back, how can I help? [19:56] sense: ok so it all works, I have it, but I needed to --prefix=/usr it, I've filed a bug [19:57] ah! [19:57] Do I need to triage it? ;) [19:57] and one on synergy not working in unity [19:57] and I'm about to file another one on the dash [19:57] no I got vandine to confirm it [19:59] That probably works better for getting them fixed. [20:13] woo [20:13] 3 unity bugs today [20:14] 2 more and I get a prize! [20:15] heh [20:15] * AlanBell really wants unity on compiz fairly soon [20:15] yeah me too [20:16] I have a 9000-series gforce in this thing and it's already dragging [20:16] I keep wanting to look at things with the compiz colourblind simulation filter so flip to compiz then back to unity and it just gets so confused doing that [20:19] jcastro: did you install unity-place-files and unity-place-applications? [20:25] duanedesign: I have those already [20:25] jcastro: can you upvote http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/68898/how-accessible-are-the-stack-exchange-sites-for-users-of-screen-reader-software [20:26] Pendulum: done [20:27] thanks :) [20:27] IMO needing a script that has to be done every time to make it work is not "accessible" [20:28] jcastro: ahh, i thought maybe that was what you were talking about. [21:44] hah [21:44] lint for locos [21:44] nice paultag [21:44] jcastro, it works killer [21:44] jcastro, I'm working on having it let people file bugs too. It's going to be solid after I'm done with it. [21:45] paultag: speaking of which did you remember to join the loco council channel? :P [21:45] Pendulum, yes :3 [21:45] paultag, thanks :) [21:46] lol [21:46] czajkowski: :P [21:47] deep down paultag you know we love you dearly :p [21:47] czajkowski, Oh pfft, yeah :) [21:47] czajkowski, I don't think you know how much I chuckle to myself in this room :) [21:48] heh [21:51] :) [21:52] brb [23:37] hmm [23:37] longest brb ever paultag [23:38] czajkowski, I'm here [23:38] czajkowski, just in other channels and working on loco lint [23:38] :D [23:38] :) [23:39] heh [23:39] I'd like to sleep now [23:40] so go sleep [23:41] wired [23:43] :(