[00:17] <cjwatson> CarlFK: different
[00:18] <CarlFK> cjwatson: ah - I was expecting the same.
[00:21] <cjwatson> CarlFK: if the .configs were the same, there'd be little point in providing separate kernels ...
[00:21] <cjwatson> the .config is what makes them different
[00:50] <owh> I've just had a router decide for itself that when I told it that all traffic from a particular host needed to go to a particular WAN port, I was just kidding. Is there a way that I can force my server to cease sending traffic if it's going out via the wrong link?
[01:02] <clayd> i just installed vsftpd and went to stop the service and it is telling me "service unknow"  i am using "sudo service vsftpd stop"  anythoughts?
[01:03] <Nafallo> clayd: running from xinetd?
[01:03] <clayd> running from command line
[01:04] <clayd> i am also looking up xinetd right now :)
[01:05] <clayd> so what i am reading is it is another version of init?
[01:13] <latenite> Hi folks, Is there a way to istall ubuntu FROM a running ubuntu? I cant shut the system down to boot a love cd. What I miss on my runng system is the wellknow "install" button on the desktop!
[01:16] <clayd> are you currently running from a live cd, or and installed system?
[01:18] <latenite> an installed system. If it was a live CD i had the install button...can I install from my system too?
[01:20] <clayd> the reason i ask that is you question isn't very clear.  what are you trying to install?  A complete reinstall of the OS, or just a portion.  Also this channel is for ubuntu-server and generally there is not a GUI instlalled.
[01:24] <ChmEarl> latenite, do a parallel install into another partition using debootstrap (while in primary OS), then finish the new install via chroot
[01:30] <dj-ineedateam> Hello
[01:31] <latenite> ChmEarl, ahh ok..cool thanks..that sjust like debian
[01:31] <latenite> ok
[01:39] <ChmEarl> latenite, the debootstrap in lucid supports all Ubuntu and Debian
[01:40] <ScottK> For later Ubuntu releases you'll need one from lucid-backports, IIRC.
[01:44] <ChmEarl> latenite, dpkg -L debootstrap -> ./scripts/maverick squeeze lenny lucid etc
[01:47] <dj-ineedateam> Would this be ok for a mc server?
[01:47] <dj-ineedateam> Operating System
[01:47] <dj-ineedateam> MS Windows XP Media Center Edition Professional 32-bit SP3
[01:47] <dj-ineedateam> CPU
[01:47] <dj-ineedateam> Intel Pentium 4
[01:47] <dj-ineedateam> Northwood 0.13um Technology
[01:47] <dj-ineedateam> RAM
[01:47] <dj-ineedateam> 512MB Dual-Channel DDR @ 166MHz (2.5-3-3-7)
[01:47] <dj-ineedateam> Motherboard
[01:47] <dj-ineedateam> Dell Computer Corp. 02Y832 (Microprocessor)
[01:47] <dj-ineedateam> Graphics
[01:47] <dj-ineedateam> Default Monitor @ 1024x768
[01:47] <dj-ineedateam> 64MB GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X (nVidia)
[01:47] <dj-ineedateam> Hard Drives
[01:47] <dj-ineedateam> 59GB IC35L060AVV207-0 (PATA) 28 °C
[01:47] <dj-ineedateam> Optical Drives
[01:47] <dj-ineedateam> HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8481B
[01:47] <dj-ineedateam> NEC DVD+RW ND-1100A
[01:48] <latenite> ChmEarl, kool I am right at it now...thank you for pointing me in the right direction :)
[01:52] <twb> What did he mean, "mc server"?
[02:49] <raubvogel> ChmEarl, I thought dm_mod was built into the kernel since 9.04
[02:51] <ChmEarl> raubvogel, oh I might have needed to include dm_mod in initrd in custom kernel
[02:51] <raubvogel>  ChmEarl, I think you are close to the issue though.
[02:52] <raubvogel> It does sound like it is not loading the lvm crap
[02:52] <raubvogel> But, once it is up and running I can mount the lvs all day
[03:05] <_Neytiri_> can anyone help me fix this error
[03:05] <_Neytiri_> Enter LDAP Password:
[03:05] <_Neytiri_> ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49)
[03:06] <_Neytiri_> i am working off of this tutorial and this is a fresh install
[03:06] <_Neytiri_> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html
[03:07] <YankDownUnder> Anyone know why after doing an update, why my smb shares spit out a DBUS error and I can't view 'em?
[06:15] <BuenGenio> hello
[06:15] <BuenGenio> trying to setup dovecot (postfix already setup), but get this in my log
[06:16] <BuenGenio> 2010-11-04 14:11:20 deliver(root@mydomain.com): Error: userdb lookup: connect(/var/run/dovecot/auth-master) failed: No such file or directory
[08:40] <SirFiChi> hi folks
[08:43] <SirFiChi> i have problems to install ubuntu server 10.10 on a hp proliant ml370 server. if i use the amd_64bit cd, the installation stops, because i must use the x86 install-medium, and if i use the x86_32bit cd, it stops while the formating of the raid 5...
[08:43] <SirFiChi> any hints how to get ubuntu 10.10 to work...
[08:55] <kinygos> hi...my ubuntu server is remote, i can only get to it by ssh...i'm trying to add /dev/null to the list of shells so i can assign it to nobody, but i'm getting permission denied...what am i doing wrong?
[08:55] <kinygos> i'm getting permission denied for $ sudo echo "/dev/null" >> /etc/shells
[09:01] <dubphil> Hi all
[09:06] <jpds> kinygos: sudo -i; and then echo
[09:06] <jpds> kinygos: Or: echo "/dev/null" | sudo tee -a /etc/shells
[09:07] <twb> That's probably not a good idea; use /bin/false instead
[09:07] <twb> Or simply lock the account
[09:07] <kinygos> jpds: i managed to edit the file with nano...i must have done something peculiar
[09:08] <twb> nobody:x:65534:65534:nobody:/nonexistent:/bin/sh
[09:08] <twb> The "x" means locked
[09:08] <kinygos> twb: i read somewhere that using /dev/null would mean that an attacker couldn't be sure if a user account existed on the server, whereas they would with /bin/fals
[09:08] <jpds> kinygos: The shell treats the redirection (">>") as your local user, not sudo; hence the permission denied.
[09:09] <twb> Maybe you should investigate that before actioning it
[09:09] <kinygos> jpds: awesome, thank you very much...i thought i was making a mistake
[09:10] <kinygos> twb: you're absolutely right...i was trying to understand why my /var/log/auth.log was filling up with  pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0)
[09:10] <twb> kinygos: uh, those are caused by cron.
[09:10] <twb> Nothing you do to the nobody account will affect those log entries
[09:10] <kinygos> twb: and came across a few different places where it was recommended that the shell for the nobody account be set to /dev/null "as a precaution"
[09:11] <kinygos> twb: indeed...i hadn't yet got to figure out what that line was about yet....i know it's cron but that's as far as i got before being sidetracked
[09:11] <twb> kinygos: that suggestion might date back to the days of identd and rsh -- I don't know
[09:12] <twb> vixie cron's /etc/crontab takes a target user (to run each job as).  The cron.hourly/daily/monthly jobs run as root, which is why pam_unix reports cron opening a session from root to root.
[09:12] <kinygos> twb: indeed...one article was from 2007
[09:13] <kinygos> twb: so it's normal behaviour?
[09:13] <twb> the crontab logs are, yes
[09:13] <twb> I've never seen /dev/null used as a login shell on a modern system
[09:15] <kinygos> ok, so going to your earlier point, i didn't need to change it's login shell because it was locked....
[09:15] <kinygos> (it being the nobody account)
[09:16] <twb> I suppose it might depend on the pam implementation and suchlike
[09:16] <twb> Or if you e.g. told sshd not to use pam, and it was reading shadow(5) directly
[09:19] <kinygos> twb: awesome, thank you very much for your time and help
[09:19] <twb> Well, I *am* a genius.
[09:19] <twb> Tell your friends!
[09:19] <kinygos> :)
[10:49] <Tombar> Hi room, I've just deploy a ubuntu image in amazon (ami- a403f7cd) and i'm unable to connect into it although security settings are ok, any idea?
[11:09] <TeTeT> Tombar: can you see the console output with ec2-get-console-output <instance id>?
[11:30] <yann2> henkjan, you around?
[11:37] <Makere> Hi
[12:02] <pmatulis> Makere: hi
[12:04] <Makere> why can't I ssh my UEC instances
[12:04] <Makere> connection reset by peer
[12:04] <pmatulis> Makere: no address assigned maybe
[12:05] <pmatulis> Makere: note that there is a cloud channel (#ubuntu-cloud)
[12:05] <Makere> oh
[12:05] <Makere> using addressing private
[12:06] <tgwoollard> Good afternoon all. Would anynone please be able to advise on how i can configure remote connections to an Ubuntu 9.10 Server so that i can connect remotely at a login prompt and not to take over an existing session? Many thanks in advance
[12:07] <Makere> what the
[12:08] <Makere> it started working
[12:08] <otaku_coder> hi, im having some issues with configuring snmptrapd on ubuntu maverick server. I've followed as many guides as I can find but keep getting this in the syslog: No access configuration - dropping trap and Warning: Unknown token: authCommunity.
[12:11] <TeTeT> Makere: maybe the sshd was not up on the instance
[12:14] <henkjan> yann2: yes
[13:24] <yann2> henkjan, you replied on the kernel issue bug on launchpad about a sun fire x4140, "cpu locked"
[13:25] <yann2> henkjan, you replied a bios upgrade fixed this issue
[13:25] <yann2> can you confirm the bios upgrade fixed it?
[13:25] <yann2> see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/353070
[13:50] <elb0w> what is a good vnc server?
[14:00] <_ruben> what is with vnc related questions these days in here?
[14:27] <JenniferB2> hi folks.. I want a script to run on login.. but not for all logins.. only for a user. i have created a script in /etc/profile.d/Startup.sh ... but this seems as if it's run from everywhere.. i want it to run only for one user
[14:28] <henkjan> yann2: i've upgraded to a newer kernel
[14:29] <yann2> henkjan, because the bios upgrade didnt fix it?
[14:29] <yann2> I cant upgrade, its my zimbra server, only supported on 8.4 :/
[14:29] <henkjan> 2.6.32-020632-generic from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[14:30] <henkjan> yann2: only installing a newer kernel won't break your zimbra install
[14:30] <yann2> ah so you didnt upgrade completely, still using 8.4
[14:30] <yann2> so you've been using that kernel for a while and it works fine on that server?
[14:32] <yann2> wait you put a 2.6.32 on hardy? mmmh
[14:35] <yann2> are you confident that's safe?
[14:36] <yann2> I see you're in the ubuntu server group, but still it seems like a risky thing to do on a mail server :x
[14:41] <henkjan> yann2: no risk at al
[14:41] <henkjan> install the .deb from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[14:42] <yann2> I ll see with zimbra team if they wouldnt drop my support
[14:42] <yann2> thanks
[14:42] <henkjan> and you can stil boot your old 2.6.24 kernel
[14:44] <yann2> true, just afraid to lose my support if I dont run a vanilla
[14:44] <yann2> then I dont have to tell them and can go back if I have additional issues
[14:45] <henkjan> if you are experiencing zimbra problems you can always reboot to an older kernel and try to reproduce the problems.
[14:46] <ericb> need help, apache2 on ubuntu10.4 downloads my php5 file instead of rendering, any idea why this happens?
[14:48] <_ruben> ericb: sudo a2enmod php5 ; sudo restart apache2
[14:58] <dubphil> anyone knows where the squid init script is ? (it is no longuer in /etc/init.d/)
[15:00] <ericb> _ruben: already done that, when i try enabling the php5 module again, it says that its already enabled
[15:01] <_ruben> dubphil: probably in /etc/init then
[15:01] <_ruben> ericb: not sure how smart restart it, perhaps a stop + start does the trick
[15:01] <_ruben> (been ages since i hit a similar snag)
[15:03] <dubphil> _ruben: ah yes never notice that it was an init folder in /etc/
[15:04] <dubphil> how we deal with this files in /etc/init ?
[15:04] <ericb> _ruben: i think the problem is with the userdir module, when i try running a phpfile on my /var/www/ i dont get the same problem that i get when running a file on my public_html
[15:05] <_ruben> dubphil: those are handled by upstart .. use: sudo stop/start/restart servicename
[15:05] <_ruben> ericb: dunno about that one, can't remember when i last used userdirs :)
[15:05] <ericb> :))
[15:06] <ericb> anyway thanks, will hit google maybe i'll find a blog or forum post regarding this one
[15:09] <dubphil> ericb take a look in /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.conf
[15:09] <dubphil> _ruben: thanks I understand now
[15:10] <ericb> dubphil: yeah, i remembered what i did last time, need to comment out the <IfModule mod_userdir.c> block
[15:10] <ericb> thanks
[15:47] <yann2> rah the samba/kerberos documentation used to be very good now it's an absolute mess, what a shame :'(
[15:59] <ewook> ivoks: hey. Noticed I've followed the "Extend mail stack in Ubuntu-server". When did you decide to implement ldap-based user config?
[16:00] <SpamapS> yann2: do you mean the server guide?
[16:01] <yann2> its a mix of both...
[16:01] <yann2> the community page sends you to page on the samba wiki, to pages on the kerberos wiki, then its divided into 3 pages...
[16:02] <yann2> there are inconsistencies, a lot of "i also needed that", things that dont make sense (how can you set the dns and reverse for a server that you actually want to use DHCP)
[16:02] <ivoks> ewook: you mean, when is it planned?
[16:03] <ScottK> When ivoks has free time.  Don't hold your breath.
[16:03] <yann2> ultimately got it sorted though, wasnt as difficult as I remembered :)
[16:03] <ivoks> ewook: anyway... once i have enough time to do it and we have ubuntu ldap tree
[16:03] <ivoks> ScottK: :) thanks
[16:04] <\sh> ivoks: ubuntu ldap tree?
[16:04] <ewook> ivoks: nono, when the decision was made :)
[16:05] <ewook> oh, there's a ubu-tree comming?
[16:05] <ivoks> decision? oh, when i saw ldap for the first time
[16:05] <ivoks> long before ubuntu :D
[16:05] <ivoks> \sh: DIT
[16:05] <ewook> lol
[16:06] <ewook> ivoks: I've must have missed that part before.
[16:06] <\sh> ivoks: AH :)
[16:07] <hggdh> smoser: should cloud-init bugs be routed to the server team?
[16:09] <kinygos> hi...i'm trying to install gcc on my ubuntu server 10.04...but i'm getting the error Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing
[16:09] <kinygos> any idea what i may have done wrong?
[16:10] <kinygos> or perhaps, what i should do...it's an LTS, so worried about updating anything really :(
[16:10] <elb0w> damn you messed something up
[16:10] <elb0w> that sucks
[16:10] <kinygos> elb0w: is that directed at me???? :(
[16:11] <ScottK> kinygos: Check and make sure you're on the network.  That's the most common cause for that kind of problem.
[16:12] <kinygos> ScottK: i am...it's a remote server, doing this over SSH
[16:12] <elb0w> kinygos, I think he means does that remote server have internet acess
[16:12] <elb0w> access*
[16:12] <elb0w> it can be dns issues as well
[16:12] <elb0w> try to ping google.com
[16:13] <ScottK> DNS would be the next thing to check.  Yes.
[16:13] <kinygos> the previous command was a wget to pull a tar down from pypi
[16:13] <smoser> hggdh, well, yes. but i get them one way or another.
[16:13] <smoser> where do they go now ?
[16:13] <hggdh> apart from you getting a copy, to the limbo
[16:13] <hggdh> (a few users, but no team)
[16:15] <kinygos> the output is http://www.fpaste.org/9oAu/ but i can ping gb.archive.ubuntu.com from my server
[16:15] <jpds> kinygos: Hi.
[16:16] <kinygos> jpds: hi :)
[16:16] <jpds> kinygos: Please run: sudo apt-get update
[16:16] <kinygos> should i do that on an LTS server?
[16:16] <jpds> Yes, it just updates the package listings.
[16:16] <jpds> Yours seem to be out-of-date, hence the 404 errors.
[16:19] <kinygos> ok, to be sure i understand what i'm doing before i do it...sudo apt-get update just updates the package index so that when i try and install a new package, apt-get can find the 10.04LTS version...it won't upgrade any packages...is this correct?
[16:19] <jpds> apt-get update - will not upgrade your packages installed.
[16:20] <hggdh> smoser: done, the server team is subscribed
[16:21] <ScottK> kinygos: That's correct, but you ought to install any updated packages that are available as all that is put into the repository are security changes and important bug fixes.
[16:21] <ScottK> Upgrading to a newer release is done an entirely different way
[16:21] <kinygos> that seems to have worked a treat...is that normal workflow?  if install fails due to 404s, update index and try again?  i installed fail2ban yesterday using apt-get
[16:21] <kinygos> i didn't get any errors yesterday
[16:21] <Pici> Agreed, thats the main 'feature' of an LTS release, package upgrades (mostly security related)for 5 years.
[16:22] <Pici> kinygos: Perhaps there were no upgrades for fail2ban that would have required a new package index to be grabbed.
[16:22] <ScottK> kinygos: A standard server install will, IIRC, update it's package index once per day.
[16:23] <ScottK> You do want to install the available updates.
[16:23] <kinygos> ScottK: how do i get security changes and important bug-fixes for stuff i've installed already?  (that's not described in the apt-get.html doc i'm reading on ubuntu.com)
[16:24] <Pici> I find it handy to install  apt-listchanges so that you know exactly what fixes are going to be applied.
[16:24] <ScottK> kinygos: sudo apt-get upgrade or sudo apt-get dist-upgrade if new packages are needed (don't let the name scare you)
[16:24] <Pici> !dist-upgrade
[16:24] <kinygos> ScottK, Pici: awesome, thank you both very much for your time...i'll investigate further :)
[16:25] <Pici> kinygos: you're welcome :)
[16:25]  * jpds hugs gb.a.u.c.
[16:25] <savid> Hi, I'm trying to run "sudo apache2 -S" to test my vhost conf,  and I'm getting this error:  apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}
[16:25] <savid> Is there a different command I should be using?
[16:25] <jpds> savid: sudo apache2ctl configtest ?
[16:26] <savid> Ah, thanks
[16:58] <zul> JamesPage: sorry i finally got around to ibmasm-utils
[16:59] <JamesPage> zul: thanks - no rush as it was for natty....
[17:29] <SpamapS> ugh.. mod_pagespeed is.. a giant ball of unreleased dependencies
[17:46] <panfist> when rebooting, some of my nfs shares are failing to mount and it does not proceed to boot the system from there
[17:51] <panfist> i used to be able to press 's' to skip mounting and continue to boot but that's not working
[18:00] <heypig> Question: I have a machine that, when i ssh in or use webmin, my samba shares crash and my network looses its networked drives. Any idea what could be causing this?
[18:04] <pmatulis> jpds: wow, hugging a mirror
[18:06] <panfist> i'm trying to use the showmount command, but no matter what i try, it keeps returning "clnt_create: RPC: Program not registered" not a lot of info via google on the problem
[18:06] <hallyn> heypig: i would suspect one of your pam modules...
[18:07] <hallyn> if samba really crashes, ubuntu-bug should send up helpful logs for helping figure out what happened
[18:07] <heypig>   mmmk
[18:09] <heypig> hallyn can i open a chat with you?
[18:14] <hallyn> heypig: you can pm me if (/msg hallyn) if there is sensitive info, but otherwise it behooves you to keep it here bc chances are someone else here will know what your problem is much faster than I
[18:15] <heypig> hallyn ok, well should I try to re-install the pam modules? ubuntu-bug isnt installed on the machine in question (server distro)
[18:23] <heypig> sudo apt-get purge libpam-modules  ?
[18:24] <hallyn> not sure that would help.  does anyone here know about samba-related pam modules?
[18:25] <hallyn> heypig: what is the distro installed?
[18:25] <heypig> 10.04.1
[18:25] <hallyn> server edition you say?
[18:25] <heypig> yeah
[18:26] <heypig> it was not a fresh 10.04.1 install though
[18:26] <hallyn> one that that might help woudl be to find the pid of the parent sshd process, and do 'strace -f -o/tmp/ssh.log -p <thatpid>' while you try to log in
[18:26] <heypig> it was upgraded from 7.10 )lol)
[18:29] <heypig> ok ill try that hallyn
[18:30] <heypig> gimme a few and ill post the log
[18:37] <yann2> d????????? ? ?    ?       ?                ? .gvfs
[18:37] <yann2> am having this issue more and more often with always the same folder
[18:37] <yann2> does it ring a bell to anyone?
[18:39] <hallyn> yann2: haven't seen that
[18:39] <yann2> second time I got that, 10.4 server.... I thought it was due to likewise open first, but this is on a vm that havent that
[18:39] <yann2> hasn't
[18:41] <yann2> http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=%22d%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F+%3F+%3F++++%3F+++++++%3F++++++++++++++++%3F+.gvfs%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8  am not the only one it seems :)
[18:41] <dbowlby> Hello all.  I'm running ubuntu server 10.10 with the virtualization package installed.  I have a host that has allocated -m 1024 but is taking 1770972K
[18:41] <dbowlby> how can that be?
[18:42] <cole> yann2: look at bug id 534284 on bugzilla.gnome.org
[18:42] <yann2> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493565  mmmmh
[18:42] <cole> i think same issue
[18:43] <yann2> love the last comment "The underlying mount command that is hanging does not hang for users that belong to the 'video' system group."
[18:43] <yann2> would sound a bit silly on a server but well :P
[18:47] <heypig> hallyn, unfortunatly im not gong to be able to crash it again (its actually a big fileserver for an engineering company) right now, but i will run the log  tonight after work and hopefully i can catch you again tomarrow
[18:54] <dbowlby> I just read about a "balloon" feature with KVM
[18:55] <dbowlby> could this be causing my memory allocation woes?
[19:01] <hallyn> heypig: ok.  and maybe someone more knowledgeable will have a moment then too
[19:11] <hdon> i am sshing from Ubuntu gnome-terminal into a Solaris system at work. keys like control+arrowkey don't work. how do i start to troubleshoot this problem? it's been causing me a lot of grief
[19:14] <RoyK> hdon: ctrl+arrowkeys?
[19:14] <hdon> RoyK, yeah, like ^[[1;5D for Control+Left
[19:14] <RoyK> AFAIK that stuff doesn't work too well on solaris termcap
[19:15] <RoyK> no idea why, though
[19:15] <RoyK> ctrl+a/e works, though
[19:15] <RoyK> and in bash, 'set -o vi' might be a friend
[19:15] <hdon> hmm
[19:16] <hdon> hmm, my bash doesn't acknowledge -o i in "help set"
[19:17] <RoyK> heh - seems to be missing
[19:17] <RoyK> try it - it'll turn your shell into vi
[19:17] <hdon> RoyK, thanks for the help anyway. i do use ^a but i'm in screen all the time, so it's ^a,a
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[19:18]  * hdon lols
[19:18] <hdon> oh man
[19:18] <hdon> that's crazy
[19:18]  * RoyK has been using vi for 15 years and isn't going to stop
[19:18]  * hdon uses vim
[19:19] <RoyK> then use -o vi :)
[19:19] <hdon> yeah this is great actually
[19:19] <hdon> i can b and w
[19:19] <RoyK> obviously, I'm also using vim - old vi sucks pretty hard
[19:19] <hdon> and e
[19:19] <hdon> heh
[19:19] <hdon> RoyK, thanks very much for the tip :)
[19:20] <RoyK> bash is pretty neat at times :)
[19:20] <RoyK> bourne again, obviously.....
[19:21] <hdon> pressing v takes me to a vi(m?) with my line to edit
[19:21] <hdon> looks like vi
[19:22] <hdon> and shift+i and shift+a
[19:22] <hdon> this is great
[19:23] <RoyK> seems it doesn't support stuff like 'gf'
[19:23] <RoyK> but still - a better shell :)
[19:29]  * RoyK suspects effj might be swedish
[19:32] <effj> yup, that's correct
[19:33] <ComPorTeD> How exactly does one use sredird to redirect your comport?
[19:34] <RoyK> sredird??
[19:34] <RoyK> hm
[19:34] <RoyK> never used that one
[19:34] <RoyK> looks interesting, though
[19:36] <RoyK> ComPorTeD: for what do you use those comports?
[19:37] <ComPorTeD> Well i have a device that I want to get GPS off of
[19:37] <ComPorTeD> That machine is running ubuntu
[19:37] <ComPorTeD> 10.04
[19:37] <RoyK> wouldn't that be easier to do locally and just export the result with http or something?
[19:37] <ComPorTeD> it connects via serial
[19:38] <ComPorTeD> and I want to be able to essentially open a putty session with the device from my remote windows machine as if it was connected to my local com port there
[19:39] <ComPorTeD> RoyK: well there are more options than just GPS, and i would like to be able to use those options
[19:39] <RoyK> dunno, really, never used sredird - well - never heard of it before now
[19:39] <ComPorTeD> RoyK: think of it like you were connecting a cisco router that connects via serial... you would want to be able to do all the commands
[19:39] <ComPorTeD> RoyK: what about with socat?
[19:40] <RoyK> I haven't done serial over IP - ever
[19:40] <ComPorTeD> oh :(
[19:40] <RoyK> but it seems like a good thing
[19:40] <RoyK> we have tons of instruments at work only connecting over serial, so ...
[19:41] <ComPorTeD> nice
[19:41] <ComPorTeD> yeah it would be very nice
[19:42] <ComPorTeD> socat seemed like a good way to go... you can create bidirectional byte streams of data
[19:42] <ComPorTeD> think netcat but much more powerful
[19:42] <RoyK> k
[19:43] <RoyK> we're building some new loggers these days
[19:43] <RoyK> allowing them to present the serial port directly over IP would be neat
[19:46] <darkk^> I used socat to send NMEA over UDP stream (due to unstable GPRS link) - worked like charm.
[19:47] <ComPorTeD> darkk^: any idea how you might just make the actual serial port available
[19:47] <darkk^> ComPorTeD, do you need flow control and/or ring/carrier-detect, etc?
[19:47] <ComPorTeD> darkk^: or if you could help me figure out this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/create-socat-connection-parse-output-842006/ that would be awesome
[19:48] <ComPorTeD> darkk^: shhouldn't need flow control
[19:48] <ComPorTeD> not sure what ring/carrier-detect is
[19:50] <_Techie_> whats the easiest way to set a static mount point for a new drive so that it mounts during boot?
[19:50] <_Techie_> other than using mount in a cron job
[19:56] <_ruben> _Techie_: edit /etc/fstab
[19:57] <darkk^> ComPorTeD, READLINE in terms of socat is not `read` from bash that reads single line. I'm sorry, can't give you more detailed answer, it's already 2am here :)
[19:58] <ComPorTeD> darkk^: alrihgt: :)... you think if you get a chance maybe you could post on that forum. i have met a lot of people interested in how to do similar things, but you are the first person i have met in a LONG time
[19:58] <ComPorTeD> that even knows what socat is
[20:26] <osmosis> im having an issue with running a win2k3 guest on ubuntu lucid w/ kvm.  Im doing a fresh install, but after first boot I get 99% cpu use and a blank screen.
[20:33] <osmosis> this was a dependable behavior in karmic. Now ive upgraded to lucid, and it broken. I filed a bug, but it got marked as priority low. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/668042
[20:59] <kinygos> hi...i'm using fail2ban to ban ip addresses...i don't want to unban them, i want them to stay banned....is the correct way to do this to comment out the actionunban in the appopriate .conf file?
[21:03] <osmosis> just filed a bug for the virtualization bug I have been banging my head against for the last week. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu-kvm/+bug/671163
[21:19] <sledgez> anyone know if there is an ubuntu HCL for 10.04
[21:19] <sledgez> i run a few ubuntu servers....and i would like to get a sata raid card for one...but i want to be sure its supported
[21:19] <sledgez> anyone have good luck with specific brands....etc
[21:20] <ComPorTeD> RoyK: so i was able to access my serial port over my network
[21:22] <RoyK> nice
[21:22] <RoyK> over TCP or UDP?
[21:22] <ComPorTeD> telnet
[21:22] <RoyK> ok
[21:22] <ComPorTeD> using ser2net
[21:23]  * RoyK googles
[21:35] <ComPorTeD> RoyK: what did you find about ser2net
[21:43] <_ruben> sledgez: we're pretty happy with our adaptec raid controller (from low to high-end ones)
[21:44] <sledgez> cool....ive had good luck with adaptec in the past....
[21:44] <sledgez> _ruben, can they be made bootable
[21:44] <_ruben> kinygos: even if you disable the unban action, blocks wont survive a reboot (or iptables flush). perhaps fail2ban does have some persistency option somewhere though
[21:45] <_ruben> sledgez: yes
[21:51] <hallyn> jdstrand: so on the failed libvirt 0.8.5 compile, i'm getting:
[21:51] <hallyn> /usr/include/linux/fs.h:37:2: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'uint64_t'
[21:53] <hallyn> (weird since even on natty i don't see uint64_t there)
[21:57] <hallyn> feh, now it is - recent update
[22:31] <Acs> hello
[22:31] <Acs> can anyone please tell me how I can make a file get the group of the directory?
[22:31] <EvilPhoenix> yeah, chown
[22:31] <EvilPhoenix> i think
[22:32] <EvilPhoenix> if i understand your question, that is
[22:32] <Acs> yes but how can I make the process automatically ? Like if user X creates a file instead of the file getting the users group it would get the group of the folder
[22:32] <Acs> as soon as it was created
[22:32] <EvilPhoenix> oh...
[22:32] <EvilPhoenix> not sure
[22:33] <erichammond> Acs: If you want files in the directory to automatically get the directory group:  chmod g+s DIRECTORY
[22:33] <Acs> thanks
[22:34] <khussein> Hi guys. Can someone please tell me where can I see the list of blueprints or features that are planned for the next release?
[22:34] <khussein> Like approved ones.
[22:35] <EvilPhoenix> you might ask this in #ubuntu+1
[22:35] <EvilPhoenix> they would know
[22:46] <Acs> is it possible to restore files/folders to their original permissions. I accidentally set every file in a dir to 777
[22:46] <Acs> I want to remove the x but only on the dirs
[22:46] <Acs> ops
[22:46] <Acs> only on the files
[22:46] <Acs> so that I can still access the directories
[22:51] <yann2> find /path/to/folder -type f -exec chmod a-x {} \;
[22:51] <Acs> wow thanks
[22:51] <yann2> you might want to chmod the files 644 though, not 666
[22:52] <Acs> yeah rw r r
[22:52] <Acs> ok
[22:52] <Acs> thanks
[22:52] <yann2> find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;
[22:52] <yann2> but replace the dot with the path :)
[22:52] <Acs> type f ?
[22:52] <yann2> file
[22:52] <Acs> isn't f for folder?
[22:52] <Acs> oohh right
[22:52] <Acs> ok ok
[22:52] <yann2> find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
[22:52] <yann2> thats for directories
[22:53] <Acs> right right sorry
[22:53] <Acs> thanks again
[22:53] <yann2> but beware to replace the . by the path to the folder
[22:53] <yann2> or go in the right folder :)
[22:53] <Acs> sure
[22:53] <Acs> :)
[23:17] <SpamapS> jcastro: starting to see why you'd like to replace the launchpad questions system with stackexchange..launchpad has a long way to go to catch up to them.
[23:23] <jcastro> SpamapS: :D
[23:23] <SpamapS> My favorite part is when I convert a bug to a question and it says "This bug could not be converted to a question.<br>This bug was converted to a question."
[23:34] <erichammond> smoser: Regarding https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-on-ec2/+bug/670161/comments/4
[23:35] <erichammond> smoser: Releasing a new AMI seems different to me than releasing an update for Ubuntu.  An SRU affects installed systems that are upgrading in place.  An AMI only affects the people who decide to start new instances of that AMI.
[23:36] <erichammond> smoser: It's sort of like deciding to bundle Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid with a different piece of hardware that has different disk/memory configurations. The Technical board would not need to approve an SRU for that.
[23:36] <erichammond> smoser: Or am I completely missing something here?
[23:43] <erichammond> smoser: Ok, catching up with the rest of the ticket and linked mailing list thread... Looks like you are working towards that end and Mark Shuttleworth supports it.
[23:54] <kinygos> hi..i've been afk...just seen _ruben's comment which sparked some googling....does anyone know if fail2ban on ubuntu supports negative bantime setting to give "permanent" ban (iptable flush notwithstanding) ?