[00:02] <sarvatt> the whole pae split was painful on nvidia too, starting to see the worth in just dropping non-pae completely
[00:23] <RAOF> sarvatt: I'm assigning myself the work-items associated with making r300g/r300c do the right thing, as I don't think you've got a burn-down chart to track them?
[00:28] <sarvatt> RAOF: yeah man I was just giving you crap at UDS, I don't mind at all! they probably could use being cleaned up anyway
[00:29] <sarvatt> http://sarvatt.com/downloads/patches/radeon-gallium.patch I think that was the latest gallium default on one I had, not on that PC at the moment
[00:30] <sarvatt> hmm
[00:30] <sarvatt> http://sarvatt.com/downloads/patches/radeon-gallium-default-off.patch
[00:30] <sarvatt> i uploaded way too many patches here, confusing myself
[00:31] <RAOF> :)
[00:32] <jcristau> you want to ship both drivers?
[00:33] <sarvatt> yeah with r300c only used for UMS for one cycle
[00:39] <RAOF> jcristau: Because we need space on the CD it's imperative that we ship both!
[00:39] <RAOF> Uuuuuuh… :)
[00:40] <sarvatt> my thoughts exactly :)
[00:41] <RAOF> Well, it won't be hard to end up being at least space-neutral.
[00:41] <sarvatt> btw I'm pretty sure not having r300 as the dri driver name for gallium is going to screw up egl so those patches need fixing up for sure so that its r300 by default and something else for the classic one
[00:42] <RAOF> That was my thinking: r300_dri & r300_classic_dri, or somesuch.
[00:45] <sarvatt> sis is the only other dri driver i think we could even remotely think about pulling out of the stock package, it's extremely specific to certain sis chipsets and doesn't run on most of them
[00:46] <sarvatt> I still see tons of savage and mga mesa bug reports
[00:46] <RAOF> As I count it, we could pretty happily lose mga, savage, sis, tdfx & unichrome.
[00:47] <RAOF> Where by “lose” I mean - not ship on the CD, and have jockey magic to install them.
[00:48] <sarvatt> that'd probably make the livecd experience even better given how buggy they are :)
[00:48] <RAOF> Right.
[00:49] <RAOF> Do they even support Unity?  I don't think so.
[00:49] <RAOF> So they'll be getting the 2D experience on the LiveCD *anyway* 
[00:50] <sarvatt> mga sure as heck doesn't like compiz
[00:50] <sarvatt> but it still tries to run
[00:50] <RAOF> Heh.
[00:51] <sarvatt> and our compiz launching stuff doesn't kill gtk-window-decorator when it decides it can't support compiz which causes the panel to be all screwed up on mga
[00:51] <RAOF> Does any of that hardare ever *have* pixel shaders?
[00:52] <sarvatt> you know the answer to that :)
[00:55] <RAOF> :)
[07:47] <ricotz> RAOF, hi, https://bugs.launchpad.net/docky/+bug/543859 - might be worth looking into updating the ati driver in maverick?
[07:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 543859 in docky "Black bar in 3D mode (affects: 15) (dups: 5) (heat: 87)" [Low,Invalid]
[16:24] <bjsnider> tseliot1, i discovered an issue with nvidia-current while packaging it for the ppa
[16:26] <bjsnider> the amd64 version that has links to the 32-bit libs has broken links to libXvMCNVIDIA.so.xxx because that file is not being installed in the rules file.
[16:26] <Alexqw> Where should I go or who should I poke to get an update on bug 553415?  It's fixed in Maverick but still affects Lucid.  There's a PPA with the fix for xorg-server 1.7.6 for lucid, but there was some talk about backporting all of xorg-server 1.7.7.  Comment 53 in the bug says Timo might be willing to sponsor this fix, but there's been no update on this for awhile.  Can anyone shed some light on this?
[16:26] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 553415 in xorg-server (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 6 other projects) "mouse trapped in box for Open Motif (affects: 30) (dups: 4) (heat: 143)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/553415
[16:34] <Wubbbi> Hi guys ;D
[16:35] <jcristau> tjaalton: ^^^
[16:46] <tseliot1> bjsnider: do you mean thee 32bit libXvMCNVIDIA.so.xxx?
[16:58] <bjsnider> tseliot1, that's right
[17:29] <tjaalton> Alexqw: yeah, totally forgot about that one...
[17:31] <tjaalton> Alexqw: I'll have a look today or tomorrow
[17:44] <tseliot1> bjsnider: can you file a bug report, please? I'll have a look at it when I'm back home (I'm still in the US)
[17:54] <Alexqw> tjaalton: great!  Thanks for looking at it
[18:01] <ludens> hi all, anyone who could help with synaptics touchpad on debian squeeze?
[18:05] <ScottK> ludens: I think you want #debian on oftc.
[18:06] <ludens> ScottK: ok thx, someone told me ppl were knowledgeable here :)
[18:07] <ludens> should def try #debian tho
[18:07] <ScottK> ludens: But about Ubuntu.  Support for Debian is somewhat off topic.
[18:08] <ludens> yes
[18:08] <ludens> thanks anyway
[18:09] <paddy2706> today i hit a weird problem - didnt update anything, no conf changes, but my X froze at least 10 times today. i always hat firefox running and pidgin, most of the times flash player was active. heres the backtrace from Xorg.log.0.old: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/jWYXe6xU
[19:12] <Sarvatt__> X talk starting at plumbers if anyones watching remotely, theres a camera here but im not sure if its streamed
[19:40] <bryceh> Sarvatt__, what's the talk about?
[19:57] <Sarvatt__> the death of anything not using KMS/GEM :)
[20:02] <Sarvatt__> jcristau: that 7.9 merge looks good to me outside of libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental using a glob, would need to build it to be sure the right drivers are getting in there but can't until later tonight
[20:02] <bryceh> of course
[20:06] <jcristau> Sarvatt__: hmm, i thought i'd made it just nouveau_dri.so
[20:18] <sarvatt> jcristau: oh sorry, you're right, I looked at the diff wrong and saw ours where we were deleting things we didnt want before installing for some reason
[20:19] <jcristau> 'git diff HEAD..origin/ubuntu-maverick -- debian/' which was very helpful to update the packaging :)
[20:19] <jcristau> s/which//
[20:21] <sarvatt> yeah thats how I compared it :) mesa-demos is the crappy part, do you think that could actually make it through NEW in debian considering most of it has no license even though it used to be shipped in the mesa source? :)
[20:22] <jcristau> hah.  dunno.
[20:23] <jcristau> let's try though, do you have packaging for that somewhere?
[20:23] <sarvatt> http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-xorg/app/mesa-demos.git;a=summary
[20:23] <jcristau> stupid me.
[20:24] <sarvatt> the build deps need changing, we were going to ship a bunch of egl/gles things but didn't get around to making man pages and junk with the little time we had last cycle
[20:27] <jcristau> debian/copyright seems to be a copy from mesa's?
[21:41] <RAOF> jcristau: Yeah, it is a copy from mesa's; since it used to be a subtree of mesa, and there's no better copyright statement, that seemed to be the best.
[21:41]  * RAOF cringes slightly.